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1421  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 10:48:19 PM
Bitcointalk’s Theymos compares **** sizes with GAW's MrCEO!

In a recently published bitchfest, the founder and administrator of Bitcointalk had a one-on-one "let’s compare the size of our ****" competition with GAW’s CEO MrCEO. In a heated exchange of epic proportions the two parties battled over whose **** was the biggest.



Round 1:

MrCEO:
  • Censor free speech.
  • Obey our demands.
  • Our **** is bigger than yours.

Theymos:

  • The first amendment.
  • We obey us law.
  • We do not play nice with assholes.

Find out what happens in Round 2!

Are they indicating diameter? Or length? Cheesy

P.S: Those of a certain age and geographical upbringing will recall the handsign on the right as being "Chomp".
1422  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 10:05:48 PM
I see some apples and oranges mixups going on with the discussion about proposals to seize Josh's Paycoins. The bit where Josh posted the hardly intelligible rambling about stealing tv's had to do with the coins he said were stolen from him. What Mage is suggesting be done is to seize Paycoins that were created as part of Paycoin and have been Josh's property ever since. You either respect property rights or you don't. Whatever you think of Josh personally he owns millions of Paycoins- he did not steal them. If people are stupid enough to buy into a crypto coin where one guy owns damned near all of them that is their choice. Josh dumping the coins into markets is also probably not actually illegal- it is just a breach of trust on his part because he said he would not do that. Unethical and underhanded, but probably not actually illegal. What exactly would be the "charge" laid against Josh to justify seizing his coins and destroying them? If I were him and it happened to me I would sue, seriously. There are lots of crimes involved in this whole fraud scheme, but Josh creating millions of Paycoins and putting them in his own wallet is not one of them. Then, on top of that, if there really were such a seize&burn action against Josh- how does anybody know if he was not actually the one behind it? Letting a few million Paycoins get burned would make him look like a victim, AND perhaps remove some of the shit stain of Josh from Paycoin- but who knows how many coins he protected from being seized? Letting a shitload of XPY get burned so that the other millions he has hidden are worth way more would be a HUGE fucking win for Josh. The plan to seize and burn Josh's coins is so ill thought out and illogical there are giant holes in it wherever you look. If you want to get back at Josh, let Paycoin dive into the Satoshi price level. Don't salvage the fucking coin for him for fuck's sake- cmon- you think he doesn't want that?
1423  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 09:19:19 PM
You do not understand AT ALL, Mage. The number of unique addresses where coins were shuffled in and out of is ridiculous, and growing by the second- it is still going on full force as this is typed. Now you have to include a supposed theft of not only millions of coins, but also Prime Controllers which shit out thousands of coins a day. Which coins are you going to brand as legitimate? And who EXACTLY gets to decide? Josh? The people hand picked by Josh to distance Paycoin from him, as per plan? The "theives" who stole coins and Prime Controllers? What if Josh is tried and found innocent of all charges? THEN what? Are YOU going to pay the fucker back when he sues???  The things you have been suggesting as far as fixing Paycoin are completely fucking absurd and show no aforethought whatsoever. My suggestion is to either spell out an exact plan for your "fix" of Paycoin or never mention it again.

Yay, only 10 pages behind.

I think identifying and removing Prime Controllers and their coins is technically doable. Beyond that - you're right, it gets murky.

Note I said "technically". There would be serious issues, like how to make the current PC owners to give them up voluntarily or make the change "secretly" so that they don't dump before it's forked.

The primary issue I see is theft and respecting property rights. Homero created this coin and put the vast majority of them in his pocket. Fact. He owns them, done deal, it's over. Not saying I think it is a good thing or that I support Homero or his scheme in any way, shape, or form (obviously), but what we are talking about here is taking someone's property. Just because some people decide they don't like him does NOT give them the right to take his property. Example: If I were to start a Real Estate investment group with 100 shares, and held 49 shares and a group of investors held the other 51, it does NOT give them the right to hold a majority shareholder meeting and eliminate my shares to increase the value of their shares, regardless of what they think of me. That would simply not be legal. Do you think Mage would think it is a good idea to pull some monkeyshit like that with Litecoin? It would boost the value of the remaining coins- RIGHT? Pure genius. Why not do it? Get at least 51% of Litecoin holders together and eliminate the coins of whomever does not support them, or does not get the memo in time to get "validated" or those that wish to remain anonymous. Poof, Litecoin gets a huge price per coin boost.

So you are saying that Josh should keep his Coins? What about if a person received the Coins through illegitimate means? Does that mean that the person should keep the Coins, especially if they have near infinite selling power with them?

You statement about litecoin doing is false, because if you were just doing it where you would cut off a certain part of the Coins that don't agree with your views then that part would fight against it and sell their Coins and attack the value so you wouldn't be gaining any value by doing it.

Who decides what is "illegitimate means"? You? Me? Josh? Mage? TeamXPY? What Mage has been suggesting about seizing and burning coins is theft. FUCK Josh, this is not about him. If some group of people are allowed to to what they please with a crypto currency because they don't like someone the whole system is fucked- completely. The fact is that Homero created Paycoin and put most of them in his pocket. That makes them legitimate- regardless of what you think of the scamming prick. If you don't like it then don't buy any. Not liking how someone else decided to make a coin does not suddenly make it right to steal what is not yours. Josh owns them fucking coins, and stealing his coins will do a billion times more damage to the core principles of crypto than that scamming turd ever could no matter how many idiots he cons into buying them. If it is allowed to be done to one person (regardless of what you or I think of him- and trust me, I think Josh is a fucking turd) then crypto is not secure for anyone.
1424  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 07:11:51 PM
Ok GAW has cost me THOUSANDS! I was stupid for a long time and NOW I am AWAKE!
Thanks to everyone at bct and gethashing.
I wish I had time to read more of the forum posts. But I had to take on a second full time job, to help make up the $$$$ I lost.
WHERE is the tit pics of his wife? At least I will get some satisfaction out of getting screwed.
Also I wonder about that hot little gal that worked for him Juliette Dunlevy what was the story with her?


haha sucker...

You paid thousands for some shitty tit pics of a nasty girl?

I'd rather see the bra pics in a Kmart newspaper flyer. Roll Eyes
1425  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 06:57:44 PM
gunning for suchmoon...

Code:
Time for a road trip. I have found our man :) 

Awww... so cute. Mr. Brilliant, I did get your PM back then and was expecting you but you didn't show up.

Isn't Stacey Tenen = rootdude? That's GAW quality right there.

It's neat how much stuff EvilPanda was able to dig up but fortunately made all the wrong conclusions.

So what we know so far is that my name could be Andrey, Stacey, or Alex, and I may or may not work as a mechanic of some sort. I might be a woman but that beard would be really creepy then, so not sure about that part. The mug is cool though.


Rootdude is also cryptoconsultants.info That popped up in an Email a few days ago.

Yesterday I saw one of EPs Emails where he mentioned his shills in action and it linked to an ikeboy post, but I did not grab it. Need to dig that one back up to expose that punk. I mean, we all knew he was a GAW shill, but it is good to see validation of these things. I suspect Homero stopped paying ikeboy long ago, and he just keeps going along posting pro-Homero idiocy anyways out of pure assholery. Plus- it's hard to believe these assholes were/are selling their integrity for ~$20 a month.
1426  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 06:25:46 PM
You do not understand AT ALL, Mage. The number of unique addresses where coins were shuffled in and out of is ridiculous, and growing by the second- it is still going on full force as this is typed. Now you have to include a supposed theft of not only millions of coins, but also Prime Controllers which shit out thousands of coins a day. Which coins are you going to brand as legitimate? And who EXACTLY gets to decide? Josh? The people hand picked by Josh to distance Paycoin from him, as per plan? The "theives" who stole coins and Prime Controllers? What if Josh is tried and found innocent of all charges? THEN what? Are YOU going to pay the fucker back when he sues???  The things you have been suggesting as far as fixing Paycoin are completely fucking absurd and show no aforethought whatsoever. My suggestion is to either spell out an exact plan for your "fix" of Paycoin or never mention it again.

Yay, only 10 pages behind.

I think identifying and removing Prime Controllers and their coins is technically doable. Beyond that - you're right, it gets murky.

Note I said "technically". There would be serious issues, like how to make the current PC owners to give them up voluntarily or make the change "secretly" so that they don't dump before it's forked.

The primary issue I see is theft and respecting property rights. Homero created this coin and put the vast majority of them in his pocket. Fact. He owns them, done deal, it's over. Not saying I think it is a good thing or that I support Homero or his scheme in any way, shape, or form (obviously), but what we are talking about here is taking someone's property. Just because some people decide they don't like him does NOT give them the right to take his property. Example: If I were to start a Real Estate investment group with 100 shares, and held 49 shares and a group of investors held the other 51, it does NOT give them the right to hold a majority shareholder meeting and eliminate my shares to increase the value of their shares, regardless of what they think of me. That would simply not be legal. Do you think Mage would think it is a good idea to pull some monkeyshit like that with Litecoin? It would boost the value of the remaining coins- RIGHT? Pure genius. Why not do it? Get at least 51% of Litecoin holders together and eliminate the coins of whomever does not support them, or does not get the memo in time to get "validated" or those that wish to remain anonymous. Poof, Litecoin gets a huge price per coin boost.
1427  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 05:53:36 PM
Lol idiot never made sense

https://youtu.be/mH6boH3nsXs

Huge dumps last night and idiots still buying newly staked coins

Is that the video the shh/smirk GIF was pulled from? I can't bear to watch the whole thing, it makes me ill just looking at this fucking chump and his gang.

The smirk gif where he does the shh was from a test video, the one posted above I think is the one where he stares  at the ceiling, we have a gif of that posted somewhere here and I think you posted it Smiley

OK, that makes sense, I think in the shh GIF he does not have the headset on, but it looks like the same shirt. Ya, I remember the looking at ceiling pic, it wasn't me though. Someone borked his eyes and whatnot. He is obviously reading something on the ceiling and from the screen in front of him during this pre- rehearsed bullshit lie session.
1428  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 05:21:21 PM
Also note, Capuano, a total insider, was on normal payroll making $70k. Was he being paid in Bitcoin off the books, too? If not, $70k/yr hardly seems worth defrauding customers. I'm still curious about how that meeting went down, but as soon as someone said, "We'll be selling these miners, but buying X instead of hosting the miners they paid for," I'd be out. There are some situations where I'm not sure whether I'd do the right thing, but this one seems pretty slam dunk.

Based on some recent hints from Eric it looks like he was working on the Zen site (the PNGs) and did not know - at least initially - how those virtual miners are backed (or not) by actual mining hardware.

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/watchlist-gawminers-paybase-zencloud/67/8173


Since there are Emails detailing GAW purchasing Bitcoin to make Hashlet payouts prior to the Paycoin launch I find it unlikely that anyone was being paid extra with BTC. Now, after the Paycoin launch when GAW's income switched from CC sales of PNG miners to selling shitcoins for BTC, then maybe, although there are Emails detailing selling BTC for USD after the Paycoin launch, so that was likely used to make GAW payroll. I am sure what Josh was siphoning off from GAW was leaving as BTC, especially after the Paycoin launch.
1429  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 05:05:08 PM
Lol idiot never made sense

https://youtu.be/mH6boH3nsXs

Huge dumps last night and idiots still buying newly staked coins

Is that the video the shh/smirk GIF was pulled from? I can't bear to watch the whole thing, it makes me ill just looking at this fucking chump and his gang.
1430  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 04:32:49 PM



So much for the those saying she was not a part of this scam.
1431  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 04:15:21 PM
https://www.shopbidsell.com/listing/r9-270x-gigabyte/118

10 XPY, I bet everyone who bids on that will turn their XPY into additional vapourware.

I wonder how many gawtards will be bidding on that, its only $200 (woops I mean real XPY value then it is $2 for the gpu)
Why are people putting work into making sites like this? At least the paycoinpoker guy was semi smart and switched it to CryptoPoker, he will still have a market post-collapse.

His gf also had great tits

Some pages back I posted an Email where Josh says that PaycoinPoker was GAW/Josh. Not sure if that is the same one you are talking about or not.

I think it was independent but I'm sure Homero paid them some xpy, there was a YouTube video with low lighting and his gf playing with poker chips, video seems to be gone

Ah, yes I remember that. GAW definitely had their devs work it up. I would wager that Homero got a piece of the action.
1432  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 04:07:24 PM
https://www.shopbidsell.com/listing/r9-270x-gigabyte/118

10 XPY, I bet everyone who bids on that will turn their XPY into additional vapourware.

I wonder how many gawtards will be bidding on that, its only $200 (woops I mean real XPY value then it is $2 for the gpu)
Why are people putting work into making sites like this? At least the paycoinpoker guy was semi smart and switched it to CryptoPoker, he will still have a market post-collapse.

His gf also had great tits

Some pages back I posted an Email where Josh says that PaycoinPoker was GAW/Josh. Not sure if that is the same one you are talking about or not.
1433  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 03:59:59 PM
Hater or honest person?

LMFAO, I cant believe how many of my posts are mentioned (Panda, lawyers, Tom & Jerry), you guys are fucking awesome!!

I think a mod here is friends with Panda and got me a ban I didn't deserve, Panda did know about the ban before it happened and mentioned it on a post. I questioned him or her about it (the mod) and did not get a reply.

1 Person I miss that I must say was the 1st person to expose Gaw was Reactor

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93082

https://bitcointa.lk/search/35761/

Reactor if you are reading any of this please come back!

I am so glad the truth has come out. <3

Little bitch Panda


Quote
I have reported a lot of posts, mostly by this hater https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407916

Most of them were deleted according to the forum logs:
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
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Subject:    update
Date:    Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:44:03 +0100
From:    EP <xoanek@o2.pl>
To:    josh@gaw.com

I haven't got cash for another month of the campaign, and no response to my previous emails, so I guess we'lll be closing down this month. We still have ~80 members, so if you want to do anything just let me know.
I got another resignation today due to "ethical reasons".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530420.msg10010963#msg10010963


I will be DISCONTINUING your well run GAW tag line campaign, with regrets (no reflection on Evil Panda or others here)
I can do virtual cloud mining (people can make choices)...I can do say show a Gambling tag line (ditto people are adults can make choices)
But I CAN'T do a paybase (paycoin) Tag line in that I am of the view it is not an ethical campaign (folks can do their own research on other threads and make their
own conclusions on GAW and Paybase etc...don't want to dirty up the thread here)


This guy here said that he earned money investing in GAW projects but has some concerns and would like to contact you if possible.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=537912.msg10003396#msg10003396


Today I read that GAW_CEO is claiming that many are dumping their coins and he warned them. I know Josh and Hashtalk community do not post or come to bitcointalk, but Josh if you read this, answer me. I asked you some questions in my tickets, you did not reply any of them. You can write me a PM or to my email registered on ZenCloud if you want to discuss my issues with GAW.Hope my report will help communtiy to make right decision and on other side GAW can maybe see that there are some very important points which have to redesigned so everybody can be happy.I wish you all best in 2015.

Posted a bit in this thread, but some people are spamming from multiple accounts. Since paybase started having problems there's so much spam the thread is basically unreadable. Below is just a sneak peak.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10008004#msg10008004


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10008017#msg10008017

Quote from: cazalla on Today at 06:01:05
Hey shit cunt, what happened to you asking BitFury about the ASIC Garza said they were developing for him. Remember that? You said you would ask and then when I reminded you on twitter, you straight up blocked me.

If somebody blocked you, troll, we should all buy him a beer. As for the cunt, it's a shame you came out of one.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10008249#msg10008249


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10008284#msg10008284

These off the wall hate posts are so over the top it makes me wonder if they are not actually some sick Cointelpro from the GAW camp to discredit what is being said here in this thread.

Yup, we are hate posters and came to derail the thread Cheesy You must have missed a few pages of sockpuppets posting gifs and laughing at disabilities.
At least we aren't making new accounts every day.


I have reported a lot of posts, mostly by this hater https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407916

Most of them were deleted according to the forum logs:
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916
Delete reply: Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) in topic #857670 by member #407916


We added some posts into the paycoin thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900970.msg10005265#msg10005265


A new paycoin thread, people are calling it a failure, some are defending:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911070.msg10005050#msg10005050


Seriously, its not looking good. Hashtalk is melting down ... people are really getting riled up ... now its offline.
Gaw needs to do something if they want to restore some faith and, above all, trust. They made promises and now they pull back. Not good.

Paycoin made a name for itself in few days. I can't think of any coin that has done it in such short time. Call it ponzi, call it scam or whatever you want but it has achieved what all crypto can only wish for in such short amount of time.

Added a comment.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911070.msg10013656#msg10013656


People are asking in this thread how much GAW made on paycoin. Adding comments:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911853.msg10013838#msg10013838


I think Gaw developed a loyal following in the early days by selling hardware and cloud mining.
Apparently he treated his customers well and many will attest to making money.
Declining prices pretty much made hardware and cloud mining a losing proposition. That's when the Paycoin idea was hatched.
Was it a grand exit plan? Who knows.

They will think of something. They have the money to do it and they aren't people who pack their bags and run.
The facts are that people, who bought hashlets from GAW early made a lot of money, those who didn't because bitcoin went down and mined hashpoints instead, also made money.
If you mined paycoin you also made money, so IMO GAW is a succesful company.
If you came to the party to sell early and bail without profit, don't blame them, blame yourself.

The overal attitude remains negative and people are recomending to dump it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900970.msg10007756#msg10007756


This paycoin thread went completely off topic.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896893.msg10007791#msg10007791

I nailed this one:

Original post that bitgeek/EvilPanda quoted from. He was actually telling the truth above- the assholes spouting the crazy shit really were him or other paid shills.


Panda admits that bitgeek is one of his own sock puppet accounts, and is STILL posting with it. Today even, shilling for BitBingo.io What a worthless fucking bitch.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232904;sa=showPosts
1434  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
https://www.shopbidsell.com/listing/r9-270x-gigabyte/118

10 XPY, I bet everyone who bids on that will turn their XPY into additional vapourware.

I wonder how many gawtards will be bidding on that, its only $200 (woops I mean real XPY value then it is $2 for the gpu)

I am curious how this works. Do bidders have to deposit XPY in some sort of account before they bid?
1435  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 03:34:28 PM

$10 for a shop a month. what an incredible business idea, bet he's swimming in money right now Smiley

WhoCares (aka Dr Twat) needs to get a shop set up so he can sell MOAR Gold&Silver below the price he paid for it. That will obviously make the price of XPY rise.  Roll Eyes

1436  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
Gaining approval is easy, it just has to be better than the previous version and accepted by the exchanges and you can force an upgrade by blocking old versions. If you need to upgrade to the latest version to use the exchanges and if you also have new features then you definitely would.

But I'm here just for the entertainment value, we already have PayCon that we can make changes to since we always have 100% approval. ie. If you don't like it, make something better.

How about this: offer any legitimate XPY holder the opportunity to convert into Paycon at fixed ratio for a period of time.  Destroy the XPY as you receive it, and viola Paycoin 2.0.  Of course you blacklist conversions from the coins held in the PCs, as well as any coins that can be traced to a GAW or Garza wallet without proof of payment (to protect the poor fools who ended up buying his dumped coins).

Again: Who gets to decide who is a "legitimate XPY holder"?? Josh? You? Mage? The group that helped Josh pull this fraud? WHO exactly decides. I asked this last night and got no answer. In my opinion having a coin where some self appointed group gets to decide which coins are legitimate is completely absurd and goes against everything that crypto stands for. That is not even getting into the fact that once such an absurd "fix" and the criteria by which "legitimate" coins are determined was declared, Josh and the other criminals who are holding millions of premined XPY would simply wash them through exchanges and such to make them "legitimate". I could easily produce a hundred addresses that I know are controlled by Josh, but that does not PROVE jack shit. If legitimate coin holders consist of an email, I am pretty sure Josh could come up with however many "legitimate" coin holders as he needs FFS. He most likely already has a shitload of those, along with corresponding accounts on the exchanges. This whole fix of stealing coins from the "bad guys" suggested by Mage sounds like another scam on top of the existing scam to me.
1437  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 02:11:17 PM


Wow, that is a heck of a dildo. Even has a pointy head to ease insertion. What is he holding?
1438  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 03:55:05 AM
You do not understand AT ALL, Mage. The number of unique addresses where coins were shuffled in and out of is ridiculous, and growing by the second- it is still going on full force as this is typed. Now you have to include a supposed theft of not only millions of coins, but also Prime Controllers which shit out thousands of coins a day. Which coins are you going to brand as legitimate? And who EXACTLY gets to decide? Josh? The people hand picked by Josh to distance Paycoin from him, as per plan? The "theives" who stole coins and Prime Controllers? What if Josh is tried and found innocent of all charges? THEN what? Are YOU going to pay the fucker back when he sues???  The things you have been suggesting as far as fixing Paycoin are completely fucking absurd and show no aforethought whatsoever. My suggestion is to either spell out an exact plan for your "fix" of Paycoin or never mention it again.
1439  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 03:34:41 AM
There are THOUSANDS of addresses to which coins have been sent from Josh's stash of ~4-10? million XPY from the premine alone- not even getting into payouts from the Prime Controllers. Literally THOUSANDS. The numbers may even be in the tens of thousands of addresses. How exactly do you suggest that this be sorted out? How should the good guys and bad guys be determined? Were coins and Prime Controllers stolen? Says who, Josh? Or the people who helped Josh organize and perpetrate this fraud? The guys hand picked and PAID by Josh to distance Paycoin from him? I for one do not believe the storyline being pushed by Josh and the guys who helped build this fraud scheme who are now supposedly his worst enemies. I call shenanigans.  

Paycoin is what it is and if you stick your hand in this bucket of shit to try fix it you are going to end up with shit on your hands and it will remain a bucket of shit.
1440  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 20, 2015, 02:59:46 AM
I wonder how long it will be until they just ban Josh's Coins?

I should point out that you can render certain addresses useless quite easily with just a few lines of code...


https://github.com/gaodaochu/dicecoin/commit/ca91e22a754ff8723d21a2edc8279c95eb8b08fa

You can do that, but you probably shouldn't. Would you buy a coin that someone can (and has) just take away that simply?

It's possible to fork a coin and rob somebody, but why would anyone "invest" in a coin when it's been proven that it's simple to just take them away?


I believe extenuating circumstances such as Paycoin, where its birth was created within a company that has failed at levels in which any board or investor would have crucified long ago.

A [hard] fork is a fork, and should not be taken lightly. It's not like a fork will happen every day and there is the potential of having multiple people put on the "blacklist". Getting a fork to get integrated smoothly is NOT an easy task. I helped Dogecoin when AUXPoW was done, and let me tell you there are a hell of a lot of more people than you can imagine just on the non-person side to get a hold of to ensure it goes over well.


So perhaps I should tell you to go fork yourself  (a little fork joke Cheesy).

How exactly would the "bad" addresses and "people" be determined? I for one do not see how it is possible, especially with a clusterfuck like Paycoin where the one thing Josh has been doing with proficiency is mixing millions of coins since day 1. Now there are supposedly millions of coins "stolen" and in the hands of "hackers" . Who exactly decides which coins are to be kept and which eliminated? The people who supposedly did the theft? I have heard repeatedly that you are one of the "best" people in the crypto world, but hearing such complete and utter nonsense about fixing Paycoin come from you makes me think otherwise.
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