It's sad when you have to convince a company not to be complicit in fraud
"we were not doing it for any sort of profit" You know, because Cryptsy is a charity, not a for profit company.  Please stop trying to play everyone for fools, Mullick. Im not. Look at the addresses we provided the second we announced the node. No coins have moved. How has the benefitted cryptsy in any way? Bribing customers with some handouts so they choose your exchange is definitely a for profit move. Actively engaging in the continuance of the Paycoin scam so Cryptsy can continue to profit from trades is definitely a for profit move. You sir, are a very poor fucking liar. Please stop trying to play everyone for fools. |
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It's sad when you have to convince a company not to be complicit in fraud
"we were not doing it for any sort of profit" You know, because Cryptsy is a charity, not a for profit company. Please stop trying to play everyone for fools, Mullick. P.S: It's sad when you have to convince a company not to be complicit in fraud
We were never going to be. The whole point was for us to do everything we can to stop the fraud. And perhaps help a few people who lost a great deal of money to the whole mess of a situation to recover part of what they lost. And helping inflate the supply of XPY helps people recover what they lost how? Complete and total idiocy. |
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Isn't the key way too long to be for an address?
This is a good point and I would need to look into the code now to confirm or deny this. Good possible that you will only see a fraction of the wallet balance after importing the priv keys.
According to research someone (Daffy?) did a while ago the PC keys are not XPY addresses. They are private keys supplied to the wallet daemon via command line or config file and allow any address in that wallet to stake at the higher rate. That's all. No minimum balance requirement or anything like that. So the key is a secret identifier like an ID string not a wallet address? I thought you were part of this scam...you switched sides now? I have not been following this all that close so forgive my lack of following this. He wanted to be with the cool kids at the Bad Table in the lunchroom. |
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This is really funny. You don't need to own any paycoin, just import the private key in the wallet. This private key is a number you saw on the internet, and a number cannot be patented. You can write them into the coinbase string of a block in some shitcoin and many people will have a copy of it stored.
Don't let them intimidate you, if I write my gmail password in my github repo then its my fault if people look into my emails. That's not different here.
If you don't have any coins what would your shiny new prime controller do? How would you know if it's doing anything? How would you know if the key is even still valid? I don't know. Why are you trying to discourage people from experimenting to figure it out? A question: I was under the impression that a minimum of 125,000 XPY was required to get the insane stake rate in "Prime Controllers". Would that be the same when using these private keys? Also, an observation from a post about Gara's recent new "Josh" account on Hashtalk: He is using a @.GAWminers.com Email. That would no longer be valid, correct? Signing up to his own forum with a spoof Email....  |
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Well this has backfired
The points I do want to make
1. We never wanted to profit off the prime node. And made it a point to make our addresses public so everyone could verify that
2. We wanted to give the people a vote. Currently its all ran by gaw and the paycoin foundation as well as other unknown parties. I think we can all agree its been a mess. We hoped this would at least give our users a say in what happens. As keeping our customers happy is the number one goal. Our vote essentially goes with the community
3. Any step paycoin takes that distances itself from gaw is a good step in my opinion. The keys were not going to be removed from the code so why not make it public and show people they now can verify those 3 controllers aren't dumping their coins. And now that we have a vote thats one vote in your favor towards removing them from the codebase all together as well as any other unknown controllers
Regardless. The overall feedback has been negative. We are open to any suggestions as to what to do with the controller. The only way cryptsy was going to benefit from this situation is if some good comes out of us having the controller in the communities eyes.
We wont be taking any more controllers that are offered to us
DO YOU REALIZE JOSH STILL OWES 75BTC WORTH OF XPY TO THE ORIGINAL PAYCOIN(PYC) DEV TEAM?  Does that mean that idiot vlad did all that shilling here for a promise of payment in the future? What a dummy. Yes, the Email detailing the payment to the PYC team was posted here a while back. From what I saw they were promised a specific amount of XPY, not a specific amount of BTC, so obviously shilling XPY was in their interest. The payment schedule was spread over 4 months, and the payments were to be made in XPY, so Vlad was basically purchased as a fucking shill. And he wasted his time trying to do it here, what an idiot. I did see another Email where a one time settlement was being discussed (mid January I think), but I do not know if that ever happened. |
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now that paybase is gone cryptsy is signed up to wash joshs' dirty coins for $1? ...hmmm
AND hand out Paycoins from the Prime Controller to customers with Paycoin deposited on Cryptsy. The guy with the most XPY parked on there at any given time is Homero Garza, so he would be getting the most free XPY. That whole idea is a bunch of absurdities buttered with Bullshit. Sad thing is Cryptsy knows which account is Homero's. If they deleted his account and burned his XPY coins that would satisfy me. He definitely has multiple accounts there. My guess is at least a dozen, and most of them are likely anonymous accounts with only an Email to identify the owner, so Cryptsy may or may not know which accounts are his. His main account that is verified they obviously do. |
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now that paybase is gone cryptsy is signed up to wash joshs' dirty coins for $1? ...hmmm
AND hand out Paycoins from the Prime Controller(s) to customers with Paycoin deposited on Cryptsy. The guy with the most XPY parked on there at any given time is Homero Garza, so he would be getting the most free XPY. That whole idea is a bunch of absurdities buttered with Bullshit. |
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Well this has backfired
The points I do want to make
1. We never wanted to profit off the prime node. And made it a point to make our addresses public so everyone could verify that
2. We wanted to give the people a vote. Currently its all ran by gaw and the paycoin foundation as well as other unknown parties. I think we can all agree its been a mess. We hoped this would at least give our users a say in what happens. As keeping our customers happy is the number one goal. Our vote essentially goes with the community
3. Any step paycoin takes that distances itself from gaw is a good step in my opinion. The keys were not going to be removed from the code so why not make it public and show people they now can verify those 3 controllers aren't dumping their coins. And now that we have a vote thats one vote in your favor towards removing them from the codebase all together as well as any other unknown controllers
Regardless. The overall feedback has been negative. We are open to any suggestions as to what to do with the controller. The only way cryptsy was going to benefit from this situation is if some good comes out of us having the controller in the communities eyes.
We wont be taking any more controllers that are offered to us
The person who has put the most Paycoin through Cryptsy BY FAR is GAW/Homero Joshua Fucking Garza. HE is the majority of the Paycoin "community" on Cryptsy, and you sit here saying that you plan on giving Paycoins back to Garza, while in the same breath you say it has NOTHING TO DO WITH GAW or GARZA??? Fuck That and Fuck You, Motherfucker. Quit trying to play everyone for fools. |
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Instead of destroying ALL useless high staking wallets ("Primecontrollers") and premined coins to at least give the coin a little chance to not go totally worthless they give an EXCHANGE ,which should not even stake at all imaho, an high staking wallet for 1$.
AMAZING.
Wonder how many customers Cryptsy losing today...
This is ethically reprehensible. Cryptsy breaks checks and balances. They are acting like a central bank AND and exchange. They can print the coins and since they have ownership of them do what ever they like with them. Donate them, burn them, dump them. The people do not have a say in what happens, the people cant vote against what Cryptsy does with the coin. As an exchange Cryptsy should know full and well that their sole purpose and means of earning an income should only be trading and listing fees. If they invest in the coins they trade then then are complicit, they have crossed an ethical line where now they can control the liquidity and circulation of a coin in and to the market. They are both the market and market maker. Why the SEC is NOT investigating Cryptsy outside of this GarzaGAW debacle I do not know. And if Cryptsy has no problems with doing this, then what else have they been involved in? Naked shorting coins using customer deposits?? This would be especially easy to do with Paycoin, since 90% of all XPY trades are done on Cryptsy. The fact that there are imbeciles in the Paycoin Cult that are sitting around in their Spiderman unperpants clapping like retards about this happening is shocking. HT is down, so the Paycoin Cultists are all active here right now: http://talk.paycoin.com/discussion/830/cryptsy-received-a-prime-node/p1 "YaaaaH! Now Cryptsy can pull even more shenanigans with "The People's Money". |
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so we all get free paycoin for using cryptsy! Wonderful marketing for paycoin. "Its all about the money".
Our society where people are systematically programmed to believe illogical idiocy like Credit Card Companies existing to "Give you cash back!" and such makes selling such bullshit to the average person very easy. |
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"Prime Controllers are a feature unique to Paycoin, although calling them a feature is a bit like saying a burning sensation is a feature of gonorrhea, it may technically be true but that doesn’t mean it is a feature appealing to anyone."PayCoin: It feels like jamming a cotton swab up your urethra. More like a glass tube and then smashing it with a hammer. P.S: Sorry about that analogy , gentlemen. Stretch, pace a little and take some deep breaths and maybe look at some pictures of kittens for a few minutes, it will be ok. |
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Cryptsy should really give the PC to Paul Revere.
Why? Because it would be hilarious.
I will even promise to dump all of the generated Paycoins on Cryptsy and donate the proceeds to my chosen charity, the Paul Revere Beer Fund.  |
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Another possible issue I see with Cryptsy being intimately involved with Garza/Paycoin is confidential information. Everybody who is verified on Cryptsy is in danger of being doxxed to Garza to be on the payback list from him and his cult of evil minions. Food for thought.
Just to be clear: I still do not buy the whole Paycoin Mutiny story. For all we know that PC was in fact gifted directly by Garza, or through his "Not Garza" minions who are supposedly running things now.
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Dave? Dave's not here, man.This new twist with Cryptsy being involved in the Paycoin scam from the inside out is way over the top. My Bullshit Meter is completely pinned at maximum right now.  P.S: I also used Cryptsy a lot. Guess I will dump any shitcoins I mine on Bittrex from now on.
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New Prime Distribution:
XPY Core Dev 14
Cryptsy 1
XPY Trust 5
Adam Matlack 3
The PayCoin Foundation 12
Unknown party 15
What?  Cryptsy 1 Cryptsy 1 |
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WhoCares' raffle for charity is not working out as he hoped: https://hashtalk.org/topic/36834/raffle-1-4-ounce-gold-charity-and-burn-the-coin/76 Archive: https://archive.is/bk7m9 Looks like he was expecting to have people pay for his 1/4 oz gold donation, but nobody seems interested:  First he wants people to pay him for his idiotic sell Gold&Silver for less than he pays for inventory scheme, and now he is uptight that people don't want to fund his charity, where (as close as I can tell) the plan is to both donate the XPY proceeds AND burn them? Kinda lost on that one, but I think that is what he means. Hard to tell with this idiot. Y U NO WANT TO GIVE ME MONEY!? LMAO. |
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Not sure who's dumber, MrBrilliant for posting that, HTers for believing it, or me for wasting my time on screenshotting it.  This guy keeps pressing for Homero to cough up XPY addresses relating to GAW and Homero. Posted in that thread:  Archive: https://archive.is/dcYZE |
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