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1281  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 27, 2015, 08:27:40 PM
I don't have the time to put anything together right now, but I will say that Mullick's confirmation of a bunch of Cryptsy addresses and associated wallets has been quite informative. When I initially started tracing XPY coming from Homero's Pre-mine stash, only about 1/10 addresses where coins were being siphoned off were marked exchange addresses. I started checking a couple of the now known Cryptsy wallets/addresses and that ratio suddenly is more like 4/5 siphon transactions from Premine coins being shuffled go directly to Cryptsy. I suspected this before, but could not prove that many of those addresses were Cryptsy, so thank you Mullick!

P.S: AFAIK you can not actually delete a Cryptsy account. I suspect this is a requirement and maybe not just their policy.  I think the best you can do is empty it.
1282  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 27, 2015, 08:16:46 PM
Still don't see anything about where the 125k XPY required to run a PC came from.  Seems that question was totally ignored by the Cryptsy guys.

I know this isn't what you were asking for, but it came from a bunch of 5k and 10k outputs according to the blockchain.

Thanks for your help in trying to make sense of this mess, Dooglus. A screen of the entire list:


I traced the first address backwards.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PBNkQY5EjTFQaB2J3FoPsBVrxY3YJXa7uM.htm

Looks to be a Cryptsy address. Here is an input:



The ones I looked at were all similar to this. Appears to be Cryptsy customer coins.
1283  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 27, 2015, 07:19:34 PM
From the discussion about the anonymously posted Prime Controller keys it seems that when transferring a PC from one person to another there is nothing keeping the original owner from using the same key afterwards. Is this correct? Also, is it possible for the first owner to access the coins in the new address after a transfer? I am specifically wondering if this is the proof that the whole mutiny story and theft of Paycoins/Prime Controllers from Homero is bullshit.

As far as I understand, keeping a copy of a key is possible, it's actually nearly impossible to ensure that a copy is not kept. But no, it does not give access to coins. The coins would have be transferred via a regular blockchain transaction.

Hmmm. Somewhere here is the proof that the theft/hack of coins and Prime Controllers from Homero is all a bullshit misdirection/ washing the scam of Homero Stank scheme. I mean, at minimum Homero could have simply made new Prime Controllers to replace those that were "stolen", and then simply say that the others were stolen and his are legit. I know that most or all of the mutiny story is bullshit and that the whole shitshow is still controlled directly or indirectly by the same scamdog that has been running it all along. I thought at some point it was announced by one of the "Not Josh" gangs that the ~4,600,000 XPY address that appeared after the hack belonged to them, is that true? If so, that might be the path to proof.
1284  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 27, 2015, 07:08:12 PM
From the discussion about the anonymously posted Prime Controller keys it seems that when transferring a PC from one person to another there is nothing keeping the original owner from using the same key afterwards. Is this correct? Also, is it possible for the first owner to access the coins in the new address after a transfer? I am specifically wondering if this is the proof that the whole mutiny story and theft of Paycoins/Prime Controllers from Homero is bullshit.
1285  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 06:10:35 PM

hahahahahahaha LOL !!! Now you are playing guessing games? Tell you what, I tell you who I am is you tell everyone who you are.
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.

Whoever you are , I know that you enjoy licking Homero's stinky balls:



Shill away shillboy! If you did actually get 2 invites from Coinstand that narrows down who you might be. https://archive.is/ShDo2
[/quote]

LOL!!!! I got them in a, lets say, unusual way. And Sold them to one user in this community, in a, lets say, unusual way. (lets say, i knew I could not use them)
I am not afraid of you. I know you are afraid of the light.
[/quote][/quote]

I could care less what you are afraid of. In this post you noted that volume is up on Cryptsy:

Paul Revere, what a joke!


If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

LOL !!!! I think trading volume is going higher. You are bringing more customers to Cryptsy!!!

Thank you for replying. I am confident in my actions, but you are free to believe whatever you like. Enjoy. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles. In leaked Emails Josh Garza outlined plans to include Cryptsy in his Paycoin Scam by trading shares in GAW and Cryptsy

and Cryptsy is not sufficient for you. I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.
[/quote]

Here is the volume:


Do you figure that is Homero dumping xpy? Or maybe it is Cryptsy? Is there a difference?

1286  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 05:57:34 PM
Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

Learn to quote. And if XPY has a life of its own then it won't be killed by what anybody says about it. Download the wallet, run it, there's your Paycoin network.

But you can't force everybody to love it and you can't prevent Paul Revere from campaigning against it. Deal with it.

Exactly, XPY has the right to be where any other altcoin is. Also, Paul Revere is an A$$hole. He can do as he likes. And therefore I can also keep calling him out for what he is. An a$$whole scammer with an agenda that only kids afraid of him follow.

Like in Biblical times when people where throwing rocks. (Actually a practice that still happening in the middle east)
He throws the fisrt one all the others follow for fear of being accused also.  



I think I explained my position quite well in this post:
-snip-

spamming the same link over will most likely degrade the SEO rank of the link. just saying

Ahh, I bet you are right. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

and Cryptsy would be better . I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

Thank you again, and have yourself a scammy day, Carmelo!

hahahahahahaha LOL !!! Now you are playing guessing games? Tell you what, I tell you who I am is you tell everyone who you are.
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.

Whoever you are , I know that you enjoy licking Homero's stinky balls:



Shill away shillboy! If you did actually get 2 invites from Coinstand that narrows down who you might be. https://archive.is/ShDo2
1287  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 05:49:47 PM
Release the shills ! What an amazing shit-show this has become.

I am Jacks complete lack of surprise.



To clarify the other votes for the most part are votes for destroy. So you can add those to that

Fuck you and your contrived "vote". The only thing being accomplished here is that you are painting both yourself and Cryptsy with the same brush as the Scamdog Homero, described here:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community. Having a "vote" to decide whether they are going to openly and actively take part in the massive fraud scheme known as Paycoin is a fucking insult to anyone with more than one braincell and an ounce of integrity.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

How many times did Homero "vote" to have Cryptsy launder Paycoins for him?



1288  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

Learn to quote. And if XPY has a life of its own then it won't be killed by what anybody says about it. Download the wallet, run it, there's your Paycoin network.

But you can't force everybody to love it and you can't prevent Paul Revere from campaigning against it. Deal with it.

Exactly, XPY has the right to be where any other altcoin is. Also, Paul Revere is an A$$hole. He can do as he likes. And therefore I can also keep calling him out for what he is. An a$$whole scammer with an agenda that only kids afraid of him follow.

Like in Biblical times when people where throwing rocks. (Actually a practice that still happening in the middle east)
He throws the fisrt one all the others follow for fear of being accused also.  



I think I explained my position quite well in this post:
-snip-

spamming the same link over will most likely degrade the SEO rank of the link. just saying

Ahh, I bet you are right. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

and Cryptsy would be better . I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

Thank you again, and have yourself a scammy day, Carmelo!
1289  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 05:27:27 PM

Paul Revere, what a joke!


Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

You simply do not get it. I don't care what you or any other worthless Scam Shill thinks. In fact, if you tell me you hate me, it lets me know that I am on the right track. I explained my thoughts about Cryptsy being involved directly with the Paycoin Scam thus:

I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?  

One thing worthy of note: Josh Garza has dozen's of accounts on Cryptsy. That alone would skew the voting results. I am thinking Joshy would vote for having Cryptsy keep the Paycoin Shitter that will be paying a large amount directly to him. He even gets "clean" XPY that way without having to go through the time and trouble of having his bots wash them through all of his Cryptsy accounts.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.



Thank you again, moron scam shill!
1290  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 05:16:26 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?  

Not if there is a certain person who has multiple accounts...


I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?   

One thing worthy of note: Josh Garza has dozen's of accounts on Cryptsy. That alone would skew the voting results. I am thinking Joshy would vote for having Cryptsy keep the Paycoin Shitter that will be paying a large amount directly to him. He even gets "clean" XPY that way without having to go through the time and trouble of having his bots wash them through all of his Cryptsy accounts.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.
1291  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 27, 2015, 05:03:15 PM
I kind of expected Cryptsy to have resolved the whole prime controller disaster by now but it seems they're in a masochistic mood currently and are screwing around with a poll that will obviously be tampered with instead, things are not looking good Cheesy
They're going to keep the PC. By dragging this out, they're hoping people will forget it or let it go. The "vote" was a way to make people feel like they've had their say, and that was its only purpose – they never planned to honor it.

Exactly. It is like playing a game with a child by letting them decide whether they want corn or peas for dinner. You decided that they were going to eat their vegetables. Which kind does not matter. The "choice" is merely to make them think they have been given a say, when the game was actually already decided. Cryptsy decided they were going to piss on everybody, and are letting people decide whether they want to get their leg or face pissed on. The real choice is to say neither and pull your coins from Cryptsy.
1292  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
Paul Revere, what a joke!


If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

LOL !!!! I think trading volume is going higher. You are bringing more customers to Cryptsy!!!
[/quote]

Thank you for replying. I am confident in my actions, but you are free to believe whatever you like. Enjoy. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles. In leaked Emails Josh Garza outlined plans to include Cryptsy in his Paycoin Scam by trading shares in GAW and Cryptsy

and Cryptsy is not sufficient for you. I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.






1293  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
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spamming the same link over will most likely degrade the SEO rank of the link. just saying

Ahh, I bet you are right. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

and Cryptsy would be better . I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.




1294  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 04:18:32 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?  

One thing worthy of note: Josh Garza has dozen's of accounts on Cryptsy. That alone would skew the voting results. I am thinking Joshy would vote for having Cryptsy keep the Paycoin Shitter that will be paying a large amount directly to him. He even gets "clean" XPY that way without having to go through the time and trouble of having his bots wash them through all of his Cryptsy accounts.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.
1295  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 04:08:26 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here to vote


Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language Smiley

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Do you have evidence on what you are saying? Do you have evidence that Josh is part of BTCLend? Do you have evidence that the Prime that BTCLend is using a prime given by Josh?

Until then you my friend have been found guilty by Judge Polzin of being full of shit.

Yes, there is proof. There are Emails between Cmilian and Homero Josh Garza discussing using GAW develepors and GAW/Garza funding of BTClend. It is buried 100-200 pages back in the massive GAW scam thread. Thank for asking and I do encourage you and everyone else interested to have a look. The amount of information you will be exposed to while looking will be rather enlightening.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.

Actually I am very familiar with this as I was actually going to be an investor of BTCLend, Didn't to it, wish I had. Homero gave 500 XPY to all businesses that where promoting XPY and by then CMILIAN had buildt XPY.WIKI BTClend was not know by then. I also know that Homero was going to invest, but did not. I am sure he probably wishes he did also. Lucky for BTCLend he didnt.

So again, Post the emails here where it says that Homero invested in BTCLend.

Then again, you are just full of $HIT, You can't even get the email that says that and like lawyers do, saying its buried in 200 pages of emails, LOL. What a joke. You can't even stand behind your BS with facts, you just talk out of your pie hole like a parrot. LOL !!!!

Thank you for quoting this and drawing even more attention. Here is my reply: I am not your bitch. Dig yourself. Myself and everybody who actually cares to know are already quite aware of this. I personally posted those Emails between Garza and Carmello Milian, by the way, so I do not have to wonder. If you do not want to look, then don't. Fuck you. I don't care what you think.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.

PLEASE, keep this conversation going, I will keep replying to make sure this gets top SEO status.
1296  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 27, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
Paul Vern on the cryptsy blog about Paycoin: "It’s isn’t GAW, it isn’t some foundation, it is simply a coin with a lot of users."
Yeah, right. Once again you completely ignore Paycoin's past as a scam and Paycoin as the scam that is still going in. You ignore the list of broken promises and lies. And this, mister Vern, makes you an accomplice in the fraud.

And then there is the "small detail" about the bribe payouts from the Cryptsy PC(s) being distributed to those with Paycoin on deposit on Cryptsy. Tee,Heee, Hee. That means that a large percentage of those coins would be going directly to Homero Joshua Garza the Scamdog running the Paycoin Scam! These assholes are directly pissing on everybody and saying it is raining. Straight from the Scamdog Garza's playbook.

The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.
1297  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 03:47:58 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here to vote


Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language Smiley

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Do you have evidence on what you are saying? Do you have evidence that Josh is part of BTCLend? Do you have evidence that the Prime that BTCLend is using a prime given by Josh?

Until then you my friend have been found guilty by Judge Polzin of being full of shit.

Yes, there is proof. There are Emails between Cmilian and Homero Josh Garza discussing using GAW develepors and GAW/Garza funding of BTClend. It is buried 100-200 pages back in the massive GAW scam thread. Thank for asking and I do encourage you and everyone else interested to have a look. The amount of information you will be exposed to while looking will be rather enlightening.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.
1298  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 03:29:38 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?

Ha you laugh, but yes I have been way more involved with our other services.

"Other Services"? You mean like the scam set up between Cryptsy and Josh Garza known as Mintsy? Fascinating, you were way to busy maintaining the other scam with Garza to know about this scam between Cryptsy and Garza.  Roll Eyes You guys obviously use the same PR book that the Scamdog Garza uses. Intelligent people would STFU and say nothing instead of calling up the Winds of Shit. Better plug your ears, they might implode from the Shit Pressure. You were warned, but you picked the wrong side.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Mr Garza is in no way associated with digialBTC so not sure what correlation your trying to make. I have already stated he tried to get involved with that project and we went another route.

He tried, eh? Thanks for verifying that. Why are we are supposed to believe that Homero Josh Garza did not get involved ? Once a liar, always a liar.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.
1299  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?

Ha you laugh, but yes I have been way more involved with our other services.

"Other Services"? You mean like the scam set up between Cryptsy and Josh Garza known as Mintsy? Fascinating, you were way to busy maintaining the other scam with Garza to know about this scam between Cryptsy and Garza.  Roll Eyes You guys obviously use the same PR book that the Scamdog Garza uses. Intelligent people would STFU and say nothing instead of calling up the Winds of Shit. Better plug your ears, they might implode from the Shit Pressure. You were warned, but you picked the wrong side.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.
1300  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute on: April 27, 2015, 03:05:02 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here to vote





Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language Smiley

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.
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