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2081  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Skyminer i just order PCie need help [possible scam] on: December 25, 2013, 05:54:29 AM
Reported to mods.... hopefully we can lock this scam down.   Please stop bumping.
2082  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.031 BTC/month for your signature - advertise BitcoinSports.eu! on: December 24, 2013, 05:28:53 AM
So essentially it has turned into a preorder mess again, but now for signatures?  Perhaps all advertisers should use the board as escrow and prepay a certain amount of funds.
2083  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: NEW Bitcoin Difficulty Breaks 1 BILLION! on: December 21, 2013, 09:31:51 AM
Consistent with the 30% growth per cycle.  Will stay like this through Q2 of 2014 most likely.

Reminds me of 104.497% SSME Thrust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShRa2RG2KDI
2084  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.4BTC/month just by posting! - Advertise for PrimeDice.com! *Updated on: December 21, 2013, 09:06:36 AM
Hi Stunna.  Signing up 12/21/2013.  Starting with 907 posts.  Sig added.

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2085  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.031 BTC/month for your signature - advertise BitcoinSports.eu! on: December 21, 2013, 08:52:58 AM
DrG started 11/21/2013 - 525 posts.
DrG ended  12/12/2013 - 906 posts.
381 posts.

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sig removed, will re-add and report after payment of 0.012BTC.
2086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WOW THIS FORUM IS ALIVEE!! NOW I MAY FINALLY GET SOME HELP FROM THE PROS!?! on: December 21, 2013, 08:45:22 AM
Ok in regards to pool promises its not really a promise its just an estimate on what you would get from the current difficulty , Yes in 12 hrs difficulty may change but the interesting thing is it still states that on estimate with these KH I should be getting 45-50k an yes i am not planning keep that ridiculous coin of doge I am just going to off load it for something more future proof. You see if I received like 20k or something then I would not worry but HALF the amount of the estimate is not right

But before I do this I need to setup my miner, its just really pissing me off that I have not got it right yet 4 days after I built it, I am not used to taking this long to do things. And I dont know why I cant work this one out. SOOO eRrRRARGGHHhh frustrating@!!


Kids.... I have a couple of Diamond 7970 ref card that in 2 months I can't get mining above 550KH/s despite over 20 reinstalls, mobo/cpu/ram swaps, multiple CGMiner configs, GUIMiner, BIOS flashes, OS changes, etc.
2087  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin life depends on China on: December 21, 2013, 08:41:09 AM
So Bitcoin is dependent on the banks that it set to replace?  That's like a chicken/egg scenario or MC Escher drawing.

Chinese will use Bitcoin even if China doesn't want them to.  At least that's what I got from Ni Hao Kai Lan.
2088  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: upgrade 25%. Guo Yifu is currently the main rival Butterfly Labs on: December 21, 2013, 08:37:09 AM
You seriously posting 1 year old news?

Since then Yifu has been revealed to be one of the biggest ASIC crooks/scammers to ever exist:
http://www.coindesk.com/avalon-accused-of-mining-with-customer-asics/

Only surpassed by the like of BFL, bASIC, Pirate@40 and Hashking.
2089  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: GPU Mining with Intel GPU on: December 21, 2013, 08:33:28 AM
The last I saw the on CPU hashing was giving about 4MH/s for SHA256.  You're better off searching the couch cushions for change to buy a few altcoins.
2090  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: cloud mining - thoughts? on: December 21, 2013, 08:22:39 AM
CEX.IO is generally regarded as the cloud mining site for BTC.  Pretty stable and reliable for its users.  Very nice graphs and layout.  Some criticism over security.

It is not economically feasible based on just buying and sitting on the hashing power (since the cost is currently about 150% overvalued).  If you want the lowest risk buy your own eq or buy some hosted mining eq from another user who wants to get out (basically cloud mining without the ease of selling on CEX).

if you want to flip ownership of hashing power left and right some people have made a profit there (although the odds are against you).

Good luck.
2091  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I DONT GET IT!!! on: December 21, 2013, 08:09:42 AM
At present no mining hardware is a good investment (unless you're buying stolen eq or the seller is crazy).  The only reason to mine are:
1) You want untainted coins
2) You enjoy seeing CGMiner flip all those stats and like hum of your machines mining away
3) You want to support the network
4) You believe you are lucky and will beat the odds solo mining

If you want lowest risk just buy the coin outright.  This may change next year once difficulty hopefully stops going parabolic.
2092  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Cloud mining? on: December 21, 2013, 08:02:52 AM
Difficulty flips up 30% in a couple more blocks.  If cloud mining kinda didn't make sense before it will be overpriced in 15 minutes (unless it corrects itself properly).
2093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WOW THIS FORUM IS ALIVEE!! NOW I MAY FINALLY GET SOME HELP FROM THE PROS!?! on: December 21, 2013, 07:59:24 AM
The VRMs are usually easy to check with GPUz (google it).  Just make sure to launch 1 instance for each card before mining.  Pick each card on the dropdown at the bottom.   Most higher end cards have the chip that can be queried to supply VRM temps.  Or you can try this nonsense: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123235.0

As far as cards being SICK - we've all been there.  It's very frustrating.  But once I started checking the VRMs I often found those to the culprit.  The device driver won't crash.  It will keep mining, then go SICK.  Usually when the VRMs hit 100C+.  You might have to add some extra cooling to them or do some undervolting.

GPUz also helps find other power issues like unstable power from bad PSUs.  The voltage may drop as the PSU gets loaded and runs hotter.  If the voltage drops to much I'm guessing the card will shut down (I'm not enough of a engineering nerd on this).
2094  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Noob question on GPU on: December 21, 2013, 07:48:42 AM
Wood won't ignite until a temp much higher than the card would have already fried at.  It's safe to use but it won't allow for airflow.

What works well - go to walmart or target and get the wire dishracks - they're coated with rubber - just make sure not to nick them.
2095  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Is there an alternative power adapter for BFL 50GH/s miner ? on: December 21, 2013, 07:39:41 AM
Just make sure you have the PSU switched off, do the paperclip trick (google it), plug in the PCIe connectors, then turn on the PSU switch.

People have killed their miners by simply plugging in the PCIe connectors from the crappy BFL PSU when it was already powered.

The chance of getting shocked is quite low.

When my BFL power supply crapped out, I cannibalized an old dell computer, took out one of the crappiest ATX PSUs I've ever seen.

To get it to start, I stuck the needle of a compass (the drawing instrument) on the green and touched the casing of the PSU.

It's been working without a problem ever since.

I meant they get shocked plugging in the crappy BFL PSU into the miner while the BFL PSU is already loaded.  On the BFL forums somebody reported that it toasted their Single.
2096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WOW THIS FORUM IS ALIVEE!! NOW I MAY FINALLY GET SOME HELP FROM THE PROS!?! on: December 21, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Well you should have probably posted this in the mining support subforum.

For the graphical glitches check and make sure your VRMs aren't cooking.  GPUs temps are not the thing to work about when Litecoin mining (they were with Bitcoin since most people downclocked the mem).  With scrypt the whole card will cook.  The VRMs may be running near 100C+ which is not good for longevity/stability.  You may need to undervolt and or clock down a bit.

Just because somebody in Alaska can get 730KH/s doesn't mean you in the desert can do the same.
2097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DOGE] [P2pool] Always workin, no registration, block payout on: December 21, 2013, 07:22:31 AM
You gotta believe a currency being pumped by meme following teeny boppers and acid droppers is bound to succeed.  Mod alerted....
2098  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAMMER] 50BTC.com on: December 21, 2013, 07:16:43 AM
No he didn't have 31BTC sitting in his account.  Remember the pool stats were really screwy before they closed the old site.  It said I had a 300+ BTC payment pending but I never mined that much in my entire history on the site and I had a GPU farm and some ASICs.  He probably had 1 or 2 BTC on there.

It is possible for a new user with 10 posts to have a pantload of ASICs, but the reality is most of the power players would be the ones who already ran GPU farms as they would have the infrastructure to run Avalon and Jupiter farms.

2099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best rig to build for $160? on: December 21, 2013, 06:55:23 AM
I get jelly every time i see those milkcrate builds.  Even with an open air build on a wood plank and a box fan I get warm temps.  If I stuffed into a milk crate it would melt.
2100  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: ASIC Miners on: December 21, 2013, 06:52:25 AM
Let's say it costs $200 to produce an ASIC machine, but you could sell it for $2000.

Would you:
A) Mine with it and earn $100 per day, earning $1900 in profit after 21 days?
B) Sell it and earn $1900 in profit instantly?

These companies chose the latter. Some of the companies didn't even have the capital to produce the machines in the first place, hence why so many took/continue to take preorders.
So in the above example it would be $1900 profit now, instead of several months down the line.

Uh, no, please see my post above.  Avalon took BTC payments for all 3 batches even as the BTC price rose.  In fact they gouged Batch 3 customer (I was one) for 102BTC for a 85GH/s unit stating they would earn their money back in 1-1.5 months.

As evidenced above, not only did they collect the preorder money but they also received mining income for some time while driving up difficulty for everybody else.  In your example, it would be selling the pre-order for $2k, mining $1500 dollars on it, then shipping it to the customer who can now only mine a lifetime of $1000 with the device.

Can get more evil than that.  Well I guess they could put a GPS in there for the NSA or maybe a pipe bomb or something....Yifu getting any ideas?
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