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1601  Economy / Speculation / Re: R.I.P Bitcoin on: June 24, 2014, 04:13:33 AM
This is why you should ignore bears

If you would have been thorough, you would have noticed the context: that day the price dropped from 12$ to 9$, and the next days just below 6$.
During the next 3 months it dropped down to 2$. So his bearish views were confirmed on a medium term. Someone who ignored the bears back then made a big mistake.

The title of the thread is "R.I.P bitcoin", implying that the price would go to near zero and the experiment was over.  OP was wrong.

If you were around at that time you would have seen the discussions and many speculated that BTC would crash to zero, or at least go to cents.  Going from $31 to $2 for most poeple is pretty much the same as going to zero.  When it recovered to $5 I bailed and then got back in at $7.  You had to be there.
1602  Economy / Speculation / Re: I predict that btc will rise to $2000 by end of March 2014 on: June 24, 2014, 04:08:19 AM
Since people are still digging this thread, here's my latest prediction:

BTC will NOT hit $4800 this year; in fact, BTC will stabilize at around $600 for the rest of the year.

Please bear in mind that NONE of my previous predictions came true.  Grin

I don't think we will stabilize at $600 for the rest of the year.   There has been too much adoption and business development for us not to move anywhere. 

There could always be some terrible news that we don't know about yet that could plunge us temporarily downward, but ultimately I think we should at least see $800 in 2014

Agreed.  I think we'll be somewhere near $900 near the year end.  Maybe have some crisis before then dropping us to $400 before then though.  I don't think we'll pass $1200 since many will jump off the rocket before it gets that high.  We hung around $900 for almost a month, I think we'll go back.
1603  Economy / Economics / Re: The light bulb conspiracy. Planned obsolescence. on: June 24, 2014, 04:05:14 AM
Well all the household appliances my parents bought in the 70s and 80s have gradually been dying.  Each appliance lived a minimum of 25 years.  Some items like our refridgerator we will not replace because even thought the newer ones would use less electricity ultimately buying a new one would harm the environment more since manufacturing a new one uses an insane amount of power and creates a lot of waste byproduct.  If a new fridge used 1/10 of the power it would be a no brainer but for 30% more efficiency I'm not willing to buy something that will break after 3 months.

The Samsung fridge I bought for my house did have a water drain clog and fail at exactly 1 year and 4 days.  This is why I bought the extended warranty.  Which normally I would consider a waste but household appliances at least seemed to be made to self destruct just after the warranty.

It's quite sadly really.  In an age with laser capable of measuring tolerances no human eye could see and capable of catching manufacturing defects that lazy engineering is making such waste.  Th government shouldn't be passing carbon taxes onto the consumer. They should punish companies based on failure rates  Wink
1604  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How much are you willing to pay for Bitmain (Antminer) S3? on: June 24, 2014, 03:30:01 AM
Well earnings decrease similar to exponential decay.  More than 1/2 your earning come from the first month of mining.  If the S3 arrived 1 difficulty period late you're basically down 30% in earnings.
1605  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining difficulty slowing down over the next 3 months? on: June 24, 2014, 03:24:04 AM
We've already seen people retire their block eruptors.  I have 10 BFL SC Singles that I retired earlier this month.  They would still generate a profit since I have some free electricity, but I am thermally limited and my scrypt rigs make more per watt than the ASICs do.  The Avalon Batch 1-3 and AM blades will be turning off soon as well.  Of course difficulty won't drop because you need 20-50 of these low end devices to match just 1 Cointerra 1.6TH/s
1606  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: No ROI on future Mining, its a FACT! on: June 24, 2014, 03:08:05 AM
Thanks for explaining that to me I never considered the manufacturers mining case Smiley

How did you come to the $16 for a year using 2gh/s? I used one of the regular mining calculators, obviously not a very good one! Smiley

Cheers

You can't really predict that far in advance, that is why I said it makes more sense to calculate it per day, since we know the difficulty for sure right now.  But not one year from now.  But then you end up with really small numbers so I did it per Th/s instead of Gh/s.  Any calculator can accurately tell you what your earnings will be for one day at a time.

Well even that can be wrong.  Most pools are using PPLNS or similar variant.  If the pool has a bad luck streak for 3-5 days then you can take a big hit.  Only way to guarantee against this is go onto PPS.  This is why PPS still exists even with crazy fees - some miners want assurance of a given payback during a difficulty interval.
1607  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How many S3 are you planning to buy? on: June 24, 2014, 03:01:37 AM
IMo, 0.9-1.1 BTC is the fair price, considering that the miner will probably produce ~1.9BTC over its lifetime, minus ~$400 in power costs at $0.15/kwh.



The difficulty jumps have been tame lately but with KNC shipping another big batch there's a reason we jumped up about 50PH/s in 3 days.  I'm guessing we're going to have double difficulty in just 1 month or faster.  Unless they're dirt cheap I probably won't be picking up any.
1608  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: *** GHash.IO mining pool official page *** on: June 24, 2014, 02:49:29 AM

June 24th, CEX.IO and GHash.IO will be down for scheduled maintenance from 4 a.m. to 5 a.m., GMT. We apologize for temporary inconvenience.

Fuck you and your fiverr graphics
Die

Bitpop, calm down and save your breath.  Ghash doesn't read this and apparently their users can't be bothered to read since they are apathetic to the current situation.  One FU per day is good enough.  Grin
1609  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [12000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: June 24, 2014, 02:47:39 AM
Are people really that cheap that they won't pay 2% fees (or whatever it is now)?! For many people it's just pennies a day. I just don't get it.

When it's pennies per day yes it's a dumb move, but unfortunately the larger the operation the more that 2% starts to be a significant factor.

I expect that the recent huge growth at ghash.io isn't a result of people with a couple of antminers, it's BIG farms with hundreds of TH or even in the PH range.



People with farms that big generally don't stick on ghash.io for long.  Their uptime isn't great and they have non-existant support.  Even today, pool downtime can cause a lot more damage than it looks on paper due to reconnection/failover sometimes not working as expected.  If 1% of the time a pool outage causes a miner to stop working, that's a lot of time spent fixing miners in large farms.

Yeah I have a measly 300GH/s now so I was interested to see how reliable they were.  I tried them for 4 days and had 4 episodes where my hashrate either dropped to 0 or had hiccups dropping average to 180.  I also got a lot of stale shares - but that could be just me since everybody has different internet connections and hops.  I made about 94% of projected earnings overall - I couldn't figure out my luck other than counting the number of solved blocks/day and seeing if it went up or down, but that is inaccurate because the hashrate varied.

Overall I wasn't impressed.  Obviously some people have different experiences or just don't care.
1610  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: CPU mining problem on: June 24, 2014, 02:41:42 AM
ramchik, you are wasting your electricity.  Even if it was free it's just pointless to mine the way you are doing it.  Either you need to spend a little money and buying some cheap older ASICs like a block eruptor USB stick or just buy your bitcoin from somebody here.
1611  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: the first share :) on: June 24, 2014, 02:38:44 AM
In simple terms:

The 8500GT video that you have is using 100W of power every hour.  With 10 cent electricity it would cost you 24 cents per day to mine and $7.20 per month to mine.

The 1 share you submitted earns you about 1/100th of a penny.  The dirt in between your couch cushions has more value.  Your urine would sell for more.

You're basically wasting electricity and getting nothing accomplished.  Like running heater and AC at the same time.
1612  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: June 23, 2014, 02:53:32 PM
I'm OK with the new changes and I've been running PD for ages.  I know a few people do actually make 1000 constructive and informed posts but there are a lot of posts that I see that have spelling mistakes and look like they were typed in a hurry just to get a post out.

Ultimately if it keeps the sig campaign alive it's good.  Don't bite the hand that feeds you - something a lot of members haven't grasped the concept of.  We should be posting like we normally do and count up the decent posts we have every month.  Those who have almost all decent posts can give their full count, those who +1 all over the place have to do the footwork.

Nobody will click a PD link if they see a +1 and are too busy scrolling by your +1.
1613  Economy / Digital goods / WTS: AMD Radeon Gold Rewards (3 Games) on: June 23, 2014, 12:48:12 PM
(2) Gold Radeon Rewards good for 3 games of your choice http://www.amd4u.com/radeonrewards/ - 0.035BTC or 2.25LTC
1614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin Is NOT Dead (It Is Just Dying A Slow Death) on: June 23, 2014, 11:57:20 AM
The true test of it's death will be if there is a rally in BTC if LTC decides to go along with it.  If investors pile money into more alts then LTC will die slowly.  Nothing sparks people to get working on a project like the possibility of new income  Cheesy
1615  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is BitCoin faucets really worth the time? on: June 23, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
I dont have any ref's but I have been using LTC4U since March, not everyday I am spinning the Numbers but quite often, the 2 micoLTC it gives u means nothing really, I did win in the Raffle once which gave me aroundd 2000 microLTC, however I just done my first withdraw and it converts to the value of 1p GBP, WOW was it worth it... NO!

Although LTC is hitting rock bottom, I do like the design of the site, very slick but payout is terrible.

I don't know how you guys do it! Spending hours for the tiniest payouts. I'd put a minimal investment in at least and try your hand at trading, if you want to build up your BTC stash.
Yes! Trade! This is the most prominent thing you can do to make some BTC! That or do a large amount of work, but hey, trading's less work than working.

It actually doesn't really matter what you trade, be it cloud mining, alt coins, or whatever other thing you can find to trade your BTC with. It all depends on your preference.

On the topic of trading, though, it seems like a lot of alts are decreasing in price steadily, so I'd be careful if you decide to go down that path. (I'd also like people's opinions on why they are decreasing, but don't LoJack the thread).

I haven't tried out any stock exchanges, being that my country requires paperwork for investing in companies (And I'm not going to push these laws), but you could go and check out what they do.

Pro tip for ANY trading or investing: MAKE SURE THE WEBSITE IS REPUTABLE! This is THE KEY for trading. If the site isn't reputable or doesn't have any reviews, don't trust it. Take your business somewhere else.

I hope that everything goes well otherwise!

I agree regarding alts. The way I see it, though, is that when bitcoin takes off on another bubble, alts will probably act like they did in November 2013 -- bottom out and look like they will die, and then rocket off and outperform bitcoin at the top of the bubble.

That probably won't happen again.  So many people will dump the lesser alts and either pile into BTC or BTC/LTC/NMC/PPC/XPM.  This is not a case where history will repeat itself.  Only the new investors will be left holding the bag.
1616  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Martingale System on: June 23, 2014, 11:23:44 AM
What does 2^23 mean? 23 loses and you're cleaned out?

23 sequential losses in a row and you're cleaned out.

First loss lose 1, double it to 2
Second loss lose 2, double it to 4 (you lost 3 total)
Third loss lose 4, double it to 8 (you lost 7 total).

You keep going until you reach your max hoping you'll win and "rinse and repeat" as noted above.  It works if you only want to bet a few times and have lots to risk, but as noted before you're doing a reverse lottery - risking a lot for a little gain which many would say is stupid.

If you're going to gamble, just gamble and enjoy. Don't think you can beat math.
1617  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Bitcoins with old rigs on: June 23, 2014, 11:15:57 AM
More than likely not going to be profitable for you.  To increase likelihood of profitability (largely depends on your electricity costs tbh) check into more CPU-centric coins.  Quark, XPM, Drk, X13 coins, etc.

Have you seen the difficulty on a CPU centric coin?  A 2.2GHz dual core that the op has won't even earn enough to replace the fan that would die after 3 years of 24/7 operation.  Mining at home is more or less a losing proposition.  It WAS profitable in the past, just not viable presently.
1618  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: dust coins on: June 23, 2014, 10:56:09 AM
Time would better be spent creating a service or sell goods for BTC.  Why chase 0.0005BTC when you can provide a skll/service/good for 0.05BTC with the same amount of time?
1619  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Martingale System on: June 23, 2014, 10:51:36 AM
Martin gale will work on small ammounts on a big balance. Just quit whilst you're ahead and don't get greedy.
Not really, you can also bust on the first few rounds, even if you have a big balance, the risk is actually higher here.

This gambling system works so that you must take ever escalating risks to potentially receive a small reward that does not increase with your increased risk.
It isn't worth is to use 1BTC to get 1 satoshi. If you actually want to use it to make a decent profit, example, 0.01, you can bust within the first few rounds, variance occurs so you might get a very bad streak immediately.

But you won't just win 1 satoshi. You could start betting 1 satoshi each time but if you've got a 1btc balance eventually you'll have a big loosing streak and eventually win where you make a little profit. Rinse and repeat.

2^23 and that 1BTC is gone.  It most likely won't happen on the first bet, but it very well could.  The fact you fail to understand odds is saddening.  Whatever the final exit limit is can be calculated at 2^(X-1) - X is the number of times you can fail before loosing everything.

This is the reason casinos have table limits to keep absurdity out.
1620  Other / Off-topic / Re: Fuck Summer! on: June 23, 2014, 10:43:46 AM
The only thing I hate about summer is hayfever. I like everything else apart from when it gets too warn or humid.

Um, isn't that like saying I love winter, except for the cold, wind, snow & ice?
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