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2121  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 850Watt PSU Blown with a 7950 + 280X on: December 20, 2013, 01:01:43 PM


i have machines running a 860W with 3x R9 280x and that PSU works like a charm 24/7 for months now. My guess is you didn't buy a certified PSU and went with a cheapo one. PSU should never be skimped on in any mining rig.

Don't need to guess. Look at that thing.  Green LED and 2 16A rails.

Even my Antec SmartPower 350 from 2003 has 17A/15A rails.
2122  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining with CEX.IO or why do I not believe skeptics on: December 20, 2013, 12:58:15 PM
You know, I don't think I'm lucky.
The main idea of my article was - I'm NOT lucky  Grin

However, I didn't lost any BTC and even made some profit with cex.

Well if it is not luck, then it is skill.  It has to be one or the other.  Inherently the only people who can make money from CEX are those who bought when it was dirt cheap.  With the next dif bump it should be well under 0.04 in price to be market priced compared to straight hardware.

Again I can fault people for having fun.  If you're having fun like thinking it's a trading game good for you.  If your sole goal is to make money then buying BTC or making a BTC business makes more sense.  Even mining doesn't makes sense without cheap power and cheap miners.
2123  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WHAT! :( Butterfly Lads won't deliver the Monarch Till March or April:( on: December 20, 2013, 12:37:41 PM
I thought people would have learnt a lesson by now about BFL. Looks like people are still giving them chances.

It may be a few new people.  I hoping its mostly older customer who saw KNC shipping 550GH/s units and thinking WTF is my 60GH/s Single going to do.  Fine, I'll shell a little more for 600GH/s.

Problem is those people just extended their pain.
2124  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Another BFL Story - a bit of a twist on the usual on: December 20, 2013, 12:35:52 PM
If you have balls, send them back and sue.

Well I'm sure they can come up with some crap about how they no longer make the 60GH/s units and some judge would side with that point.  But you could sue them for breach due to underperformance.  Not worth the legal costs, maybe emotionally satisfying though.



Mmmmmmm.... BFL torts...... mmmmmmm
2125  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance. on: December 20, 2013, 12:33:26 PM
My jally died today after 2 weeks of use and over half year of waiting. What a POS.

Watch what you say - if you get on their bad list you may not be eligible for their 3 week RMA process.  And be happy you got 2 weeks, I got 6 days out of my single.
2126  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WHAT! :( Butterfly Lads won't deliver the Monarch Till March or April:( on: December 20, 2013, 12:31:36 PM
I hate to quote myself but seriously, nobody should have ordered these with even the slightest belief that they would deliver anything even vaguely close to what they were promising.

How the hell are they going to deal with the cooling needs if these are supposed to be packed next to each other in PCI-E slots?

There was never any friggin' way you could get a 600GH/s miner running on 28nm on a PCI-E card that looks like a video card, otherwise the much more talented engineers at other firms wouldn't have all gone with way more intense cooling solutions.

The product they promised was clearly impossible to begin with so it's bizarre that anybody is surprised that it's going to be delayed and absolutely nothing like originally planned.

I bet they have a bunch of Minirig cases left over  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Gotta put those oil immersion cards somewhere.
2127  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Residential Limit 15amp or 20amp? on: December 20, 2013, 12:09:10 PM

Anyway, long day here in Brownbackistan; the new name for Kansas since we now have an idiot for a governor.

Check you later!

Smiley
I'm in Wichita, how about you?

Ohh... and Brownie isn't an idiot.........  He's just insane..............

You think your Brownie is worse?  Our governor is nicknamed Moonbeam.  Fitting for the Socialist Republic of Kalifornia.

My electricity is going up to $0.34 in 10 days  Roll Eyes
2128  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [115 Th] 50BTC.com - PPS|Stratum+Vardiff|Port 80|QIWI,Yandex,Mobile,WM... on: December 20, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
Well having more pools is always good.   New users should just be aware that the pool claims they were hacked 2 months ago and "lost" funds from all their user base (unknown amount).
2129  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: What Mining internet access is needed? on: December 20, 2013, 11:53:50 AM
Anyone off the grid and successfully using satellite internet to mine? (Like Hughes Internet)



Mining doesn't need bandwidth but it does benefit from low latency.  Having sat connection will result in more stales and rejects from discarded work.
2130  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Mining directly to exchange account? on: December 20, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
If you're trading them everyday at BTCe then yeah that would be fine.  Just make sure you pull the profits out every week or so just in case.

BTCe would fine, BUT they don't have very wide offering for altcoins. Any other good option?

To be honest I don't trust any of the smaller crypto exchanges (not like I trust BTCe all that much either).
2131  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: problem with second R9 280x added to working mining PC in cgminer on: December 20, 2013, 11:48:50 AM
Don't do crossfire.

Do you have enough system RAM?  If you don't CGMiner will crash and disable the device.

Make individual batch files for each card and launch separately.   Pain in the butt but easier to control for debugging.
2132  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: PCI-E 16x risers work in all but the first slot? on: December 20, 2013, 11:45:59 AM
Does that board need pin detect shorting?
2133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mining with 7950 help? (Got 21000 HW errors) on: December 20, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
3GB Video RAM, u need at least 4GB system RAM
2134  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining with CEX.IO or why do I not believe skeptics on: December 20, 2013, 11:40:29 AM
Prior to the dot com bubble anybody could have thrown darts at a WSJ paper and hit a winning stock.  BTCe Trollbox should indicate there is minimal skill and mostly luck in trading cryptos.

Consider yourself lucky.  For every winner in CEX there are 2 loosers.
2135  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Making miners on: December 20, 2013, 11:34:53 AM
You want to design you own integrated circuit?

You got a lot of school ahead of you.

It's a multi-million dollar endeavor - not a garage DIY project.
2136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Power Use and Radeon 7950 on: December 20, 2013, 11:33:27 AM
Confused.  You're mining BTC with the jalas.

You want to mine BTC with the 7950?  Huh
2137  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: ASIC Miners on: December 20, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
There is not some electronical experts who could do some reverse on hardware to extract how much time chips had already run ?? Is that possible?

Who needs electronics experts:

http://www.coindesk.com/avalon-accused-of-mining-with-customer-asics/

10 minutes is all it took to see the scam.
2138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining Litecoin, Pay With Bitcoins? on: December 20, 2013, 11:29:30 AM
None that I am aware of.  But so many people are mining LTC to convert to BTC.  Just make a contract with somebody with some rigs - avoid the middleman and save the fees.
2139  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 850Watt PSU Blown with a 7950 + 280X on: December 20, 2013, 11:27:39 AM
That's not a 850W PSU.   It's not even a 400W PSU.  It barely has 384W for the 12V rails (2*16 = 32A * 12V = 384W).  My Antec HCG-400 puts out more power on a single rail.

Don't waste time trying to figure it out.  If you hooked each rail up to the PCIe connector you might be able to run the 7950 off of it with a low end system.

Buy a name brand or OEM quality PSU from Seasonic, Corsair, Delta, Enermax, Coolermaster (their higher end ones).  It doesn't need to be gold or plat.  But it needs to have most of the power on the 12V lines.
2140  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hashrate payouts with new machines on: December 20, 2013, 04:13:44 AM
It will probably continue at 30% for the next 4-5 months and then start to taper.  It can't keep growing log growth rates unless BTC goes into 5-6 digit prices.

That's why I think buying hardware should be held off until June or so.
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