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2121  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why can't output values be set by scripts? on: August 07, 2011, 09:45:02 PM
still can't see why...
Do you mean you can't see why decentralized microtransactions are needed?  One big example is payment to route your packets and to people to send you packets would internalize all the bandwidth costs of each user's participation in the Internet.  There's lots of positive implications to this, and other separate reasons, but if this isn't enough to convince you, then you probably won't be convinced.
microtransactions: yes, just send 0.00001 btc to someone. or send 1 btc to some micro payment provider.
scriptable outputs: no. hell no! what are you thinking! R U mad? the only reason for them is to create a big horrible ugly big weird un-verifiable mess.
2122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Network Hashrate down to 13.60. Any thoughts? on: August 07, 2011, 08:46:18 PM
it must be the government who is trying to shutdown bitcoin, by taking out miners one by one.

be careful you miners, it might be you next.
 
2123  Other / Meta / Re: BAN: Tasty on: August 07, 2011, 08:10:00 PM
Unfortunately, I have to agree with this post. Tasty is too much of a troll. Lucky for him, I don't have ban powers.
mods can't bad? who can then?

Only "Administrator"s can ban users.
Sad me no like!
2124  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EvE online should be a prerequisite to having BTC on: August 07, 2011, 08:08:03 PM
...or just use common sense. never played eve online, and never got scammed.

btw. like you sig
2125  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why can't output values be set by scripts? on: August 07, 2011, 07:48:10 PM
Transaction checking would also be greatly complicated because you'd need to calculate the remaining balance of a transaction before you allow any of the other outputs to be spent. This would also cause new forms of transaction conflicts. There may be other problems, as well.
Could a very restrictive whitelist on the types of scripts for which this could be allowed help make these problems easier to solve?

because there is no need for it!
Extreme microtransactions was one that was posted in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25786.0
still can't see why...
2126  Other / Meta / Re: BAN: Tasty on: August 07, 2011, 07:25:42 PM
Unfortunately, I have to agree with this post. Tasty is too much of a troll. Lucky for him, I don't have ban powers.
mods can't bad? who can then?
2127  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Wallet Empty on: August 07, 2011, 07:19:19 PM
Code:
bitcoin -rescan
2128  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why can't output values be set by scripts? on: August 07, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
It could maybe be safely allowable, but a huge amount of Bitcoin code would have to be rewritten, as it is assumed throughout the code that output values are fixed. Transaction checking would also be greatly complicated because you'd need to calculate the remaining balance of a transaction before you allow any of the other outputs to be spent. This would also cause new forms of transaction conflicts. There may be other problems, as well.
other problem: need a new structure.
2129  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Wallet Empty on: August 07, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
Patience!  lol  Thanks.
Thats what I thought.
I just got it back up and running a couple hours ago.  So I have about 127K blocks and 39 connections.
you need at least 140k

also doing a -rescan might help
2130  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Wallet Empty on: August 07, 2011, 07:05:02 PM
wait!
always wait!

you need to download the blocks
2131  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why can't output values be set by scripts? on: August 07, 2011, 07:02:11 PM
because there is no need for it!
2132  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has failed. Could something similar possibly work? on: August 07, 2011, 06:06:38 PM
you are spreading FUD!
bitcoin have not failed(yet...)
2133  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A new design suggestion: Pegged exchange rate of BTC on: August 07, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
If the exchange rate changes wildly, it is a gamble
If the exchange rate rises continously, it is a bubble
If the exchange rate drops continously, it is a trouble

Either way, not suitable for serious business Smiley


and...?
2134  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Paypal Q on: August 07, 2011, 05:48:40 PM
wire transfer
2135  Economy / Economics / Re: Most Bitcoin speculators are at the 'denial' stage of the crash on: August 07, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
But Bitcoin generates no revenue. It's a pure speculation, a pyramid scheme, really,  In the end, it will go to 0.
then why are you still here?
2136  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Encrypt/Decrypt arbitrary text using bitcoin keys? on: August 07, 2011, 05:12:15 PM
not true!
and the ECDSA algorithm can only be used as signing, it is not that insecure if you are encrypting with it. you just simply can't.
its like eating soup with a fork.

and *even if* you could encrypt something with it, it may mot be secure anyway, even if it is secure for signing.
There is an algorithm very similar to ECDSA that performs encryption, ECIES. The algorithm is explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Encryption_Scheme
I'm 95% sure ECIES can work with keys generated for ECDSA.

(This is, by the way, a somewhat surprising thing. It is definitely not true that because the keys can be used for signing they can obviously be used for secure encryption. It is not like RSA where signing and encrypting are almost the same operation. It just so happens that someone found a clever way to make it work.)
yes it will do! as long as both algorithms are using the same curve parameters, it should work fine.

but then again: bitcoin does not use public keys as addresses, it use hashes of public keys.
which means it will not work. of course you could grab it, if the address has been used before.
2137  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Problems getting free Bitcoins... on: August 07, 2011, 04:24:36 PM
You can get a tiny amount from here: freebitcoins.appspot.com

Unless your electricity is free or close to free, mining for bitcoins at current difficulty and price level is not worth it at all.

They best way to get bitcoins is earn them(sell something) or buy them.
+1 a little more polite the n me
2138  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Problems getting free Bitcoins... on: August 07, 2011, 04:08:44 PM
money is not free. get over it!
2139  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Encrypt/Decrypt arbitrary text using bitcoin keys? on: August 07, 2011, 04:05:04 PM
As for the encryption aspect... I don't see why the ECDSA signature keys can't be used as encryption keys.  The BTC ECDSA is based on a NIST-blessed elliptic curve (secp256k1), and you have a public-key-point and private-key on that curve.  If it's secure for signing, it will be at least very secure for encryption. 
not true!
and the ECDSA algorithm can only be used as signing, it is not that insecure if you are encrypting with it. you just simply can't.
its like eating soup with a fork.

and *even if* you could encrypt something with it, it may mot be secure anyway, even if it is secure for signing.
2140  Other / Meta / Re: BAN: Tasty on: August 07, 2011, 02:42:43 PM
Tasty: you're trolling around the forum with offtopic posts, and then you complain the that the moderators have to moderate more? Why not be helpful and stop posting that shit to save them the work in the first place?
+1
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