Yea, this refund is pretty messed up. With even 1 BTC you can many times over buy at 0.000252 and sell at 0.00025, rinse and repeat and completely mess up the numbers. It is not an accurate reflection of people who truly want refunds.
This entire ITO is botched, especially with Poloniex open trading...
But that's not what's happening. Most of the orders are sells with very few buys.
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A lot??? Dont' be so sure My calculations show, that to make a 200 BTC worth of BLOCK's "refunds" back into bittrex buy-wall, all is needed is to sacrifice only about 15-20 BTC. That is $5-7K only. A lot on money for a a TEAM of SDC bagholders???
If someone wants (& I'm sure we have more then one such person) to make this ITO fail, all is needed is buy all BLOCKS at higher sell prices, in value about 220 BTC total , and dump all these BLOCKs back into bittrexs wall at 0.00025 At cost of 20BTC lost - this ITO can be ruined. I'm not joking, this is serious danger.
Too bad - we see so many BLOCK sellers in the price range of 0.00025 - 0.00027
Guys, if you want ITO to succeed - DO NOT sell even one BLOCK until bittrex refunding buy-wall is away. Just STOP SELLING. AT any price !!!
You will see much better prices in a short time. Just HOLD those 2 days!
I think your estimate is low. It's probably closer to 40+btc. Once people realize someone is buying they won't put the sell orders so close to 25k and eventually there won't be many sellers left. You may be able to make a good dent though.
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Cryptodevil: no old FUD please.
Jasinlee is not an XC developer.
(And, as it happens, he never worked on XC's code in any respect.)
Old FUD, new FUD, it doesn't matter. I just want to hear you or Dan say that Jasinlee is a piece of shit one time. Just say it! One time for the record.
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One thing is for certain, this is a snake game.
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Question: What stops people on bitrrex that sell for the refund to sell on the wall, buy a bit higher and sell again on the wall if they want to ruin the project?
Pure genius! Why didn't I think of that? What do you think people will not hurt this project on a small loss after all the smear campaign arganised here? First, assuming someone is willing to lose money, why do you think that will hurt the project? They will buy Blocknet then sell to people that are looking to buy it cheap. I don't see how that will hurt anything. Because the buy wall will be reduced to the point the project will not meet anymore the minimum Someone would have to be willing to lose a lot of Bitcoin. This conversation is moot because it's not going to happen.
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Question: What stops people on bitrrex that sell for the refund to sell on the wall, buy a bit higher and sell again on the wall if they want to ruin the project?
Pure genius! Why didn't I think of that? What do you think people will not hurt this project on a small loss after all the smear campaign arganised here? First, assuming someone is willing to lose money, why do you think that will hurt the project? They will buy Blocknet then sell to people that are looking to buy it cheap. I don't see how that will hurt anything.
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Question: What stops people on bitrrex that sell for the refund to sell on the wall, buy a bit higher and sell again on the wall if they want to ruin the project?
Pure genius! Why didn't I think of that?
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Just 834 addresses? Came on guys! What are you waiting for???
I tried downloading the client on my Mac and nothing happens. I upgraded Java, my security settings and still nothing. Anyone have the same problem?
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If 1 bitcoin buy 5,500 breakout coins. How many satoshi is that?
Math is idiotic.
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We received a nice mention on Cryptocoinnews. albeit with the older info. We are contacting them for a correction. "Breakout Gaming is holding its fundraising crowdsale for gaming token Breakout Coin (BRO). The coin is for players to use in Breakout’s 88 online gaming casino – only for legal markets. Breakout is both KYC and AML compliant." https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/breakout-coin-bro-presale-live/For those who are interested, we recently signed on Transform.pr as our public relations firm. They are the ones responsible for getting the news out to the crypto community for Ethereum, Maidsafe, Swarm, etc.. We should expect a steady release of positive articles from news outlets. Nice!
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Alright, what's the algo?.
And that premine is way tooo high, better lower it or your coin won't have a chance.
3% is for a giveaway that we will be running. It will be held in public wallets with a public ledger also available. We will give the community complete visibility of this process. Yes guys, 3% is for the giveaway to himself just before he dumps it all over the market. Good luck gents.
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Dev what do you try to accomplish? Still online here Make more money. I knew you were a scammer the whole time. I deserve a cookie.
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Why so much premine?
Because it's a scam. Duh.
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A stupid question... why are people buying Equinox on Bittrex? Is it not pointless?
The same reason people are buying any alt-coin. Developer or not, they are all pointless.
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Why are you wasting your time? This is a garbage coin run by a bunch of scammers.
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I had little too much time yesterday so I made a simple ROI calculation in excel. Anyone who wants to calculate earnings in staking and BRO investment feel free to check it out. Not perfect but it gives you an idea what to expect. Its very easy, you just have to enter 5 variables and expected costs: -Expected price of BRO in USD -Number of Bergstake -Staking days -Invested BTC -BTC price in USD Download link: https://mega.co.nz/#!YVQVBJyQ!pHBjN37JH1OelgQcLlR1pgidpEW-U0ki1LNkBBrzVrcIf you think i should add something, let me know. Hope that will come useful at least for someone. Nice sheet. I love making spreadsheets. I changed some of the costs around to fit my personal BTC financial situation. Obviously, the hardest prediction is the value of BRO. I've been trying to think about this. I believe Full Tilt Poker at the time of the DOJ investigation had about 400mm in customer deposits and FTP was the #2 poker site in the world at the time, behind Poker Stars. I'm not sure how much Poker Stars had on deposit but it was clearly a lot more than FTP. Based on PokerScout, the average, middle of the road, crappy poker site is about 1/50th the size of Poker Stars. If I take a conservative estimate and assume Poker Stars has 400mm in deposits, I can make a very conservative estimate and predict Breakoutgaming could have about 8mm on deposit. Remember, that's just poker. I have no idea about the fantasy sports market, but I think that market is way bigger than poker. If Breakoutgaming has $8mm on deposit, that means the minimum market value of BRO will be 8mm. Not everyone holding BRO will have their coins held on the gaming platform so the market cap will probably be higher. At an 8mm market cap, the price of BRO would be about $0.41. Currently, the ICO price of BRO is about $.06. That's a 583% return not including the value of the Bergstake. The value of Bergstake is the long-term kicker here that makes the ICO even more valuable. If the price of BRO is $0.41 then each Bergstake you own will produce about $.03 worth of BRO every year. That's about 50% on your original investment every year for the life of Breakoutgaming. If we try to calculate the present value of the future Bergstake cash flows, the value of Bergstake alone is conservatively worth 5X the current ICO price. based on who is involved in the Breakoutgaming project, I think these numbers are a very, very, very conservative estimate. Disclaimer: These are my own personal estimates and this is not a recommendation to purchase BRO. Investments should be based on your own personal risk considerations and research.
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I'm starting to enjoy all these scams because it's just comical already. Where else can 99% of the opportunities be scams and people still invest? This forum is like a scammers paradise. They should do an American Greed show on this. It's something else.
and look on the front page of bittrex 2 more ipos will be top volume soon. I don't look at Bittrex anymore because I converted all my holdings to BTC. I'm out of the alt-coin scene except for one, because I already bought in.
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I'm starting to enjoy all these scams because it's just comical already. Where else can 99% of the opportunities be scams and people still invest? This forum is like a scammers paradise. They should do an American Greed show on this. It's something else.
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I am very sad how you the "community" have attacked this project, created fake accounts of users, caused panic and spread FUD!
I am going to work on a new forum where members have to prove their identity to be able to join!
Theis coin has seriously been damaged!
as for Bittrex releasing funds! Total Lie, As for the retard that cloned my account and said it was hacked--> you are a sickness I hope the community can get rid off. we dont need people like you here.
As previously stated , I am meeting Lukas tomorrow he has agreed! i will as all the questions you have been asking in person and get to the Truth Behind this!
Its really Unfair what the Fudders have done here!
Where are you meeting Lukas? I want to come. For Security reasons I will not disclose the meeting place! Send me a private message with the location. Send me the coordinates of the location.
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