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2201  Economy / Services / Re: ★★ Signature Campaign for Narbonne ★★ Upto : 0.03 btc Per Week [OPEN SR+] on: September 24, 2017, 08:47:26 AM
Hello to all participants of the Narbonne signature company. I just spoke with Joel on a telegram, why he does not pay money for the signature campaign from escrow wallet, he reports that his computer was hacked and money was taken away.

I suggested that Joel pay you a job with Joel wallet:
16k7uVZvhWYD9JJJoFzqG8NrvL3y8RDxYP - 0.42 btc
and
Joel escrow wallet:
19MMLUfRJRnRwvAMv8wnChLDx3XiFez7RF - 0.15 btc

The remaining amount will be refunded by Narbonne's team.

Pretty weird. I checked the addresses based on romani245's post, and Joel_Jantsen literally said that he paid the translation bounties, and the addresses correspond to those bounties. So obviously he did move the funds.

Hopefully this gets sorted out soon. This can't reflect well on Narbonne...

This has no affect on Narbonne. It's on Joel. Either he's pulling a scam or he actually got hacked. Narbonne isn't at fault. I'm not sure why Joel didn't properly generate a secure escrow wallet, or use a hardware one.
UPDATE : NOTHING HAS BEEN HACKED,IT WAS A MISS-UNDERSTANDING FROM MY SIDE BECAUSE SOME IDIOT LINKED ME TO WRONG ADDRESS.EVERYBODY WILL GET PAID I'M SENDING THE MONEY AS WE SPEAK.

Great man, (EXCEPT ME) everybody here was worried that whether you have turned a scammer. I was worried whether you were alright?
Dear mate, I would suggest you to please be very transparent with us next time if any such situation arise because there are many here who would not take it as a positive thing and your reputation may get compromised. Had faith in you because you had been the scam-buster, so I knew you would show up soon. Smiley
I would ask everyone to stay calm and deal with patience when we know whom we are talking about.

Edit: Haha, Decoded, you were right. Too many zeroes.  Cheesy Shocked Grin
2202  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I told my grandma to put all her lifesavings in Bitcoin because you guys said on: September 22, 2017, 04:54:56 PM
The first part, you asked your grandma to put her savings in Bitcoins because the community said, right?
You were stupid. Whenever investing into anything, it's you who is/will be completely responsible for whatever the decision taken, so you should never blame it upon us first of all. Secondly, keep calm and watch it tight because Bitcoin has always gained after these losses over time, so never take any more wrong decisions in panic. China played the games and dumped it and not us, so why blame us? Just hold it hard.
2203  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: time for trading on: September 21, 2017, 08:10:29 PM
Wait after 30 September is good wise
let we see what will happen after china exchanges ban
Trading now is more risky

They already took their action and are trying to make it more intense from their end by ending the mining era too (there are talks that China may be stopping mining activities too in the near future). This will surely affect the value at first, but everything will recover very quick out of it just like it did recently. But still, trading these days is just like walking on a two-edged sword where a single mistake could lead to the verge of going broke. I would say that don't quit it but do it safely because taking it casually could result in some serious damage to your capital.
2204  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think the price will DROP MORE? on: September 21, 2017, 07:53:37 PM
Hi,

Do you think the price will DROP MORE?
Today every big news website talking about the CHINA BAN.

- wall street journal and many others


What do tou think?
I think bitcoin price wouldnt drop more because the news is over and some maybe are trying to reload their stash now. Bitcoin is sitting tightly at 3900$+ and I think the price it has now is quite good and indicates that there will be another bullish run soon. It might also indicate that another bearish crash will happen but for now it is most unlikely to happen because the FUD is now over but still I wouldn't exclude it's possibility, we can't now if there will be another bad news.
I am seeing bitcoin will continue to rise and I dont think it wouldnt drop more. Though fluctuations in the market is hard to speculate. But Im always checking its value if downtrend will happen.
i also do not think that bitcoin price will drop any more but will now start increasing, as bitcoin has a good potential and i think that the correction period and the bad news about bitcoin are now over in market therefore hopefully bitcoin price will start increasing now.
After bad news, it will comeback and create new AHT price. Hmm, sounds very easy but do you think in someday that happen will do the opposite? Nothing is forever and the scenario on the market also affected by that.

What kind of bad news are you talking about? China's ban?
That was an old news and the price is being pushed down because all those Chinese whales are shifting their money from China to other countries as they don't want to stop themselves using Bitcoins. As well as once all this gets settled from their end, we will be seeing the best rebound of history. Japan's Internet Giant GMO plunged into Bitcoins with their decision to start mining it, do you think Bitcoin is an old school nowadays? It has gone BIG and now nothing can stop it. People say that it's nothing but a war between negative and positive speculation and I believe that's true, the more you believe & hodl, the more you will gain.
2205  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: one or two coin huge pump or dump every day on: September 21, 2017, 07:41:24 PM
It is impossible to know that but there are signs, the same question was asked and I am quoting my reply from that thread:

One of the biggest indicators is sudden change in volume and a majority of buy orders. But this can also be artificial, where miners suddenly change to a new coin.

Nope, to my experience, I have seen many coins where volume gets decreased in spite of increasing while they prepare to pump up a coin.
As well, when the price starts tickling too quick and you see movements in a coin which has not moved since a week or a month, then get in because it's a sign of a pump getting ready to shoot it up to previous highs or even more. But I would advice you to stay away from a coin which is already getting pumped and look for something better, because one can never figure out the levels at which they should leave it because the more higher it goes, the more greed it gets in our mind to wait more and there we take the wrong decision of stopping by. Remember, it's never too easy to get out once price starts slipping down.

It's better to buy small cap coins than larger ones, because it's easy for pump groups to pump those type of coins because they don't need much volume in BTC to do that and remember that they always look for the easiest ones. Buy any such coins and wait for your turn.
2206  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature Campaign Question on: September 21, 2017, 07:02:12 PM
I have no intent to leave my signature campaign but I'm curious to know, is it considered rude or unreliable to join a signature campaign and leave it for another?  I would think it is an annoyance but I see people post in various campaign threads that they are leaving. 

Rude or unreliable shouldn't be the words but irresponsible.
If they take you, you should at least complete the term once you are in because nobody intends that their users leave them in between if they are getting some more bucks elsewhere or whatever the damn reason is there. Applying on many places if you are not in any campaign already and then if you get accepted at 2 different places and then you do it, then it's not a problem IMHO. But if you are already in a campaign, you should at least let the manager know that you are going to leave that spot, (and to not let the terms deteriorated with them) then please continue that week/month with them as they are also trying hard to get you those chances where you get accepted and it's not loyal to leave them all of a sudden in a midst.
2207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Altcoins really have a future? on: September 21, 2017, 06:44:01 PM
Altcoins, whether with a large or small cap, do have a future and read everything carefully to get yourself clarified over this.
Did you watch many coins which had volumes next to 0 on Trex as well as Polo and many other exchanges (I mentioned those which are popular) and got pumped to more than 20 - 100 and some even 1000x? Can you imagine how would it feel when you lose those coins few years back (just like many did with Bitcoins) and afterwards watch its price at incredible peaks?

I had 100k Korecoins in 2014 when price of a Kore was nothing as well as even BTC was 250. I decided to delete all the wallets I had in my PC. I was shocked to see that those "mined" Kores through my PC were worth ~200 BTC recently.

For those of you who really think they don't have a future? Think again. Coins which are new or old have definitely got pumped as well as they increase in values because sometimes developers or community try hard too much to push it up with their die-hard efforts.
2208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you ever recieve payment by mistake? on: September 21, 2017, 06:30:09 PM
There are a lot of ppl who has sent money to the wrong address. But I curios, is there somebody who received payments by mistake? How much if yes?
I have a friend which do recieved funds which he didnt expect and as far as i remember it was 0.5 btc back in the past on where the price isnt too high as of now.I know  there are lots of people do have this kind of situation on recieving something from those people who do send amounts mistakenly.Well lucky for those people who do got some free blessings,its up to them if they would give it back or not.
I havent encountered this kind of situation. Receive payment by mistakes is something you cannot controlled and in this case I dont know how to track where the payment from. And yes it depends on a person if they will return it back.
I bet most people wont really give those funds back considering that this is a free money and no one would able to find out on who are you or the holder of such address.Those transfers cant really be reversed this is why im careful on typing addresses when im paying someone so that it wont go on other wallets.

Well why not?
I received some "extra" funds from a campaign manager once due to accidentally putting in BTC0.1 instead of BTC0.01 and they immediately contacted me the next minute they committed it. I agreed to pay the remaining BTC0.09 back to them without arising any difficulties for them. All it takes is honesty to deal with such situations and it's all a matter of honesty and greed only because for many, money maybe important but for those like me, trust is priceless.
2209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to hit the $30.000 mark before 2020 on: September 20, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
There are many Expert Investors in their best genres who predicted $25k - $50k range to be touched nearby 2020. Where JP Morgan's CEO "exposed" that Bitcoins are too much overvalued, Fundstrat's Co-founder Tom Lee said that this would be no less than $25,000 in 2022 (as published in a recent news report), many from Wall Street said Bitcoin's value is 0 where big investors like Bill Gates and Winklevoss Twins as well as Tim Draper find it to be the most optimistic investment made ever through them. Don't listen to anybody, just let the charts show you the real painting. Wink
2210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The most undervalued crypto? on: September 20, 2017, 07:53:00 PM
I don't know which coins were undervalued when you started this thread, but I do have ideas for current timeline and I feel BTS has been sent down more then 8 times and it deserves a value of at least 6k and it is 2k atm, a coin which transacts at the highest speeds and confirms in seconds should not be this low IMHO. I gave a tip to investors to go for TKN, it did 43k. Now I would like to say that many low cap coins are being pumped at Bittrex, try your luck guys.
2211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you a True Believer? on: September 20, 2017, 07:33:04 PM
Replacing paper money should not be the question unless Bitcoin establishes itself as a "Global currency" all over the world and Governments start believing that they should really unite and use One Currency, All Nations policy. But to my thinking, this should not happen as if Bitcoins dominate paper money then there will be nothing to give value to it as well as it may be dangerous for altcoins too (as well as Bitcoins) because if Bitcoins end up everything, what would these investors look for? No matter how deep you think, everyone is here to make money over money (here: Bitcoins).
2212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: End of Dragon Era? on: September 20, 2017, 07:11:23 PM
It feel really great whenever I take part in a debate that includes China nowadays.  Grin
Actually yes, we may call this as an end atm because other countries are not following such harsh actions of China and doing what they want in their own insignificance towards China's bullshit bans. We should feel great that Chinese investors are still not leaving Bitcoins by "shifting" their money out of China to Japanese and Korean exchanges (according to news reports) and buying back Bitcoins. This shows that whether any government may interfere and shut down things off their country, but they can't kill the interest and enthusiasm we Bitcoiners have in ourselves.
2213  Economy / Economics / Re: plan for the future with bitcoin on: September 20, 2017, 06:52:02 PM
I am not a job geek tbh, I left it years ago when I started using Bitcoins. It takes a lot of courage to do that and I did it and I never regret for my decision as it proved to be the best. For those who are still doing jobs, my advice would be to save ~5-10% of their salary in Bitcoins because it won't harm their portfolio but help them to retire early in the future. No kidding here when I say that, retirement is such a phase which never comes in most people's lives as they try to enjoy their lives after 50 but they don't, due to family issues, financial problems or whatever. But I think saving in Bitcoins could really help youngsters of today to retire early.
2214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What's going on with RISE? on: September 20, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
Rise already did more than 5x if you calculate when it started getting pumped from 1900 to a sudden price of 11k.
As everyone said, RISE still looks very cheap because things are looking good for the coin as well as the Core team's gonna do a Conference on 2 & 3rd October to have further discussions about more developments of the project. Stay tuned and if you have them, my take on this would be to hold and see a spike after 2nd Oct.
2215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What coin or token did you invest in the most ? on: September 20, 2017, 06:06:01 PM
I have currently invested in Viberate tokens, one of the fastest ICO sale that ended in less than 5 minutes and I was lucky enough to get in. Not appreciating too much, but I can say that I am sure to get a 10 - 100x value for my investment because I can see the hype going and feeling really great for my decision to buy it. Other than this, all I have is BTC because I don't like to trade too much and I always redeem less profits, even if I bag in 2 - 5%, then that's enough for me in a trade.
2216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Bitcoin Cash overcome the original Bitcoin? on: September 19, 2017, 02:43:23 PM
The answer to your question - NO.
Why?
Because Bitcoin Cash took birth in such a situation where miners wanted to switch to a technology which could give everyone a better solution to their needs - FASTER TRANSACTION CONFIRMATIONS & LOWER FEES. BCH supporters thought they would get enough miners to support their project but the fact is that, only 5% of miners switched to it and the remaining stick themselves to Bitcoins because they liked the idea of compressing the transaction size instead of going for bigger blocks. Though, it is remarkable that it's still in the news as well as gaining attraction from investors too. There's a notable thing currently that there may be a trading opportunity in the upcoming week as BCH guys will be holding a conference. But Bitcoins are too good no one can resist having one and BCH still looks not more than a Pump and Dump coin.
2217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Btc drop near 2k? on: September 19, 2017, 01:52:27 PM
Well I don't think that those days may come again because I recently saw something very surprising for everyone.
Even after China Govt's ban on Bitcoins and its ban extension to OTC trading too, Chinese traders have now been shifting their funds to Japanese and South Korean exchanges and where they are to deal with KYC and AML policies, they are trying their hands over OTC markets provided by Richfund. A record 74 million trading volume was seen in the past week when they decided to ban Bitcoins' trading, so this means that citizens are never going to listen to any governments anymore which is very optimistic for Bitcoins. Those levels were to be considered cheap where it fell hard, but I don't see any falls like this unless some other country's government gets a psycho attack and decides to ban XYZ thing to stop Bitcoins grow.
2218  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it possible for the bitcoin to lose it's value ? on: September 19, 2017, 01:06:53 PM
It's always a threat that came to my mind whenever I used to think about this.
I've always had the dilemma to see a country like China dumping off hard but they were helpless, but they must be considered as the most influencing factors which used to affect the price of Bitcoins due to their very active involvement in it. Bitcoins could drop hard once countries start to drop their idea of its acceptance and stop their citizens from using it, but I don't think it will be possible till many years from now because Bitcoin is still infant and has a lot to gain against losing its identity amongst everyone because there are still a lot of people who don't even know about Bitcoins yet.

Bitcoin could lose its price, but not VALUES.
2219  Economy / Economics / Re: How many can resist selling off their BTC for huge profits? on: September 18, 2017, 06:58:34 PM
I think that to give more value to Bitcoins and start using it as an actual "GLOBAL" currency, it's necessary to be used in that way.
People think that this is just an opportunity, a way to satisfy their hopes, their demands of making more money over their already invested fiat.
Do you know Tim Draper? He's the man who actively took part in all those seized Bitcoins' auction held in US and bought more than 50k Bitcoins at ~650 bucks (if I'm not wrong). Did he sell his coins till date? I think NO. Because he is fueling his own experimental projects with those Bitcoins as well as handling over few projects to his son too. Sharing is caring and investors never look for smaller profits, they make huge differences in the society with their decisions.
2220  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Is Falling Down? on: September 18, 2017, 06:26:25 PM
Guess that Chinese must be crying over their moves they tried to play all of a sudden and created an environment of panic.
The decline Bitcoin faced due to them was harsh but what was surprising to me and anyone here was the recovery in just days after it fell down. Your predictions for it to be under 3k became air when it started gaining hard after reaching to those dumping levels. Obviously there were many pessimists who wanted that everyone sell it and they buy the hell out of it once again, so I congratulate them who became wise and bought Bitcoins during its declining period. Guys, those who bought near 3k must be having 25% profit at least atm and feel pity for those who became part of the panic and sold off their hard earned coins under the influence of all this Chinese melodramatic act.
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