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2221  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: January 15, 2017, 04:00:49 PM
- You learned in trading was experienced, we need not be too disappointed when losses
- Trading is always risky, if you do not accept the defeat, the best you should not trading
Everything in life has disappointment in it, and when it comes to earning money there is always risks involved whether you are wasting time or money there is something that you have to give.

To learn trading you have to lose because losing is vital part of learning, so start with a low amount of money and when you get more experienced you can start trading with more you just have to be patient.
2222  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: January 15, 2017, 03:15:05 PM
Yes, without any risks you also will not make any money, its as simple as that, you need to take some risks sometimes to get that money.
You're right if you really want to earn in trading you must overcome all of your fear. It's normal you have fear of losing all of your funds but just like what OP say you will need to face your fear just like in gambling bet what you can afford to lose. You will also need some strategies in trading
You will not only need strategies on trading but a knowledge and skills in able to be profitable and yes fear of lossing money is everywhere anytime you get or pick money on your pocket or wallet and most people do really feel this kind of emotion and its really normal because money is valuable for us thats why we are afraid to lose it but we should really face that fear in able to earn money.
you can only overcome your fear if you have some good knowledge about trading and if you have some good experience and some skill in trading. therefore with good strategy to also need to overcome these factors and then you can really overcome fear in trading.
Yes, overcoming your fear of losing money when it comes to trading is possible only when you are being courage enough and try for yourself, it does not matter how much guides you look up or how much time you spend trying to find a good strategy, you have to experience it on your own in order to develop you experience and come up with a good strategy that suits you.
2223  Economy / Services / Re: EtherealVPN | Portforwarding | DDoS Protection | CHEAP! | No Logs on: January 15, 2017, 09:43:18 AM
One of the greatest purchases of your life, buy now!
Any chances of providing free trail to review your vpn services ? (One day test will not be sufficient, I guess)
I could not find the list of all available server details, if you get me any links for that would be more useful on deciding subscribing your services.

You are supporting multiple cryptocurrency payments, that would be really a reason to consider your VPN to subscribe.
2224  Economy / Services / Re: sell my signature on: January 15, 2017, 08:46:08 AM
Op as long as you going to write good posts then you should close this thread and apply for a signature campaign on Here as they will have  better requirements and you will  now you want get scamed and will be paid then you will not have to spam to get you payment as 50 posts a week would be hard with spamming

777coins = max 80post/week
Bitvest = max 75post/week
Bitmixer = max 50post/week
Bitmixer ? They are accepting senior member+ ranks alone. OP is still in member rank.

There are lot of works in front of OP before trying to earn from here. He must improve his post quality (I guess so far he just concentrated only on getting next next ranks).

This type of privately selling signature is not working here for any rank people as there will be no businesses interested in individuals even if they get any offers that would be low ball offers only.  
2225  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling Bitcoin For Cheap - Skrill Or PayPal ! on: January 15, 2017, 07:59:26 AM
How you are calling 20% fee as cheaper whereas many people are providing these exchanges for 5% to 10% of fees. Still I guess you just need $20 fixed fee as you ask same fee for $150 deal too ?

What about $500 or $1000 exchanges, you need only $20 / $30 fee ? If it is so, yes you are selling bitcoins for cheaper.
2226  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Elevara Crypto Trades / Sales on: January 15, 2017, 06:09:20 AM
Why should we trust a NOOB?

While I have not been here long I run a poloniex lending bot from the forum and I also run a traders signal alert service on the forum with good reputation and standing the topics can be found below. And I am looking to further this reputation by offering this service.
We never need to trust you when you are ready to agree to go through an escrow services for exchanges.

I guess there will be no significant importance for providing altcoin exchange services as lot of trusted professional instant exchange services are available to get into bitcoin before looking for any e-currencies.
2227  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: January 14, 2017, 07:21:25 PM
There will be no significant differences between holding gold and btc.
No there are a lot of differences like we need more security measurements for holding gold in physical format (now a days digital format gold is also available, still considering only physical gold due to its reputation for saving).
To secure bitcoin we just need some strong passwords and some encryption procedures.

Other than these storing aspects, returns on investment will be more with bitcoin compared to gold investments.
2228  Economy / Economics / Re: whether bitcoin influence on the world economy? on: January 14, 2017, 06:16:08 PM

possible bitcoin prices affect the world economy?
Price of bitcoin is nothing but an indication of how much popularity currently bitcoin has gained. In other words, more the bitcoin value, more the influence bitcoin will be having on world economy.

Already bitcoin is impacting in many businesses like PayPal/western union / digital markets which might be leading into influencing economic of some countries indirectly due to loss of revenue and proportional taxes they need to pay. Still, influence will be negligible but we can expect more when bitcoin will be having mainstream of adoption along with huge price levels.
2229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, is it worth spending time collecting it? on: January 14, 2017, 04:24:57 PM
Well,why don't you get a daily job and purchase bitcoins with a percent of your wage. Like 10% or 60%,I don't know what's your goal. There are some people who lost their investment value a bit but that is just because they bought when bitcoin was at very high price. I mean you need to analyse the market a bit before buying bitcoins. See if there has been a spike in price recently. Look up in the forums,what experienced people speculate. I believe there is a BTC/USD Wall Observer thread here on the forums. You might wanna check it as well.
Buying bitcoin with a part of your salary is a good thing but only for one time, you should use some of it to buy bitcoin one time and try and work with it like use it in trading or gambling  If you have some knowledge about them, but don’t spend your job money to buy bitcoin every time so that way if you lose it you won’t feel bad about it.
2230  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You only lose if... on: January 14, 2017, 02:09:42 PM
Yes you lose if you sell, but as of now I buy bitcoin  and Im hoping bitcoin price will recover it. Though we can say in any investment its a risk. Yet, I will still hold my bitcoin as I believe it will rise again. I believe it will. Lets wactch and observe the price it may come.
Yes, this is not the right time to book profits nor a time for coming out of bitcoin markets.

It must be a right time to buy more bitcoins. I believe we are getting another chances of our lifetime to enter into bitcoins below $1000 price levels. Definitely we will lose if we sell right now, at the same time if we buy more then we can easily generate more profits in quick time.

Yes, bitcoin prices are going to bounce back along with new US policies.
2231  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: January 14, 2017, 12:55:03 PM
is a site making btc for free not enough?
How it will be possible, I certainly believe you are not denoting faucets because they are not giving away enough bitcoin for our efforts.
If a site is giving free bitcoins means it must be from Satoshi Nakamoto or from some big philanthropist. Why not you care to share more details on what you are referring to.
2232  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How you can Increase the value of Bitcoin on: January 14, 2017, 12:21:59 PM
it is the responsibility of every bitcoin users to introduce bitcoin in their area, because if people will be using bitcoin then we will enjoy the the actual facilities of bitcoin. therefore it is important to introduce bitcoin to everyone.
Yes only with more adoption of bitcoins, we can bring price increase for bitcoins. Until then, expecting huge price levels for bitcoins, may trap us at any time just with the reason of some group of people's pump and dump.

To increase the value of bitcoin, we must encourage new people to adopt bitcoin. Yes, it is the responsibility of every bitcoiner, unfortunately no one feels about it.
yes that is also the reason, but to me if we stop panic selling which is root cause of bitcoin price decrease then we can really increase the value of bitcoin, most of the time when the price of bitcoin start felling that is what still in progress then we also start panic selling and the price fell down to a lowest price. which create problems them.
Yes, if we stop panic selling then we can prevent further collapse of bitcoin prices. But to increase value of bitcoin from this point we must work on bringing bitcoin into mainstream of adoptions. That must be the long term solutions regardless of panic selling nor profit booking.

Moreover traders will always have some reason to sell off, but if we have enough buyers at each and every levels then there will not be any possibilities for sudden downfall.
2233  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum Amount To Start Trading? on: January 14, 2017, 10:10:59 AM
By doing  trade in different exchange platform it depends on the traders which is newbie on how He/She going to start. Just start on the things what you can afford only. You don't  need to rush it to begin with big amount at once. Its not helpful if you do it,

I agree, if you start with a big amount in trading you will feel very disappointed if you lose that money. And being a newbie in trading that will start with a big amount is a very risky way. It is better to start an amount that you can afford to lose while you are starting trading. Once you know may strategies to it you can increase your capital and start earning some real profit.
But I always prefer to stick with small possible capital amount in order to avoid any unexpected big losses.

I learned this from my experience. Because facing losses in trading is most common and we cannot be assured it will not happen when we are having experience. It is always good to trade with small capital like we must do in gambling.
2234  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: January 14, 2017, 09:34:46 AM
I get more reluctant to sell and more inclined to hodl and wait. It'll recover.
It works perfect with the respect to bitcoin trading and definitely not with Forex or any other stocks.

Even with bitcoin, only for selling it will be applicable and not for a buying price levels. I mean to say if we miss a right point to book profits in bitcoin trading, we can wait but we cannot do the same to enter into a buying position of bitcoins.
2235  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: January 14, 2017, 08:44:56 AM

Then how it can be a best source of bitcoin generating method ?
I agree with trading but definitely not with altcoin trading nor casinos. Both are very dangerous to end up in zero bitcoins that too in very quick times. Other than trading, faucets with huge number of referrals are good source of income right now I am doing.

Yeah that's what I said, altcoin casinos (aka altcoin exchanges) could be great to multiply your bitcoins but also destroy your holdings and leave you with only some "digital garbage" in your bag. That's why I said best methods for me to get bitcoins is to buy them with FIAT or work and get paid in bitcoins.
Of course, holding bitcoin is good investment but it is good only on the long term, and holding works only for those who have a good amount of btc but as for the small guys holding does not actually work that well.

The best source of bitcoin would be this forum and the way you can apply for signature campaign other than this affiliate programs of gambling and trading sites.
2236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Fucking Chinese on: January 14, 2017, 07:04:04 AM
So the lesson should be that sitting on your ass while others do something will leave you with less economic power. That is why China is the center of gravity in bitcoin. Not because they did something to you, but because they did something. Something you could have done but didn't.
Since the early days of bitcoin china has been the biggest supporter for it, while other countries ignored it and ban it china realized that bitcoin is powerful and even if you ban people will still use it so that is why she invested in it and encouraged on using it , and miners get more profit mining it because electricity is cheaper there than any other country, that is why it is popular there.
2237  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: January 14, 2017, 04:34:51 AM
The main reason that people don't buy it is that they don't understand it and don't even know where to get any. A secondary reason is that it is still a very risky investment that we have to realize may fail in the long term.
In my country also buying bitcoin needs to solve lot of complications like needs lot of initial set up. I tried buying in person but I found that was a scam attempt as they thought I did not have all the knowledge about bitcoins (double spending must be they would have planned up as they not accepting my confirmation requirements).

I am just getting my bitcoins only from signature campaign. Other sources are not significant yet.
2238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, is it worth spending time collecting it? on: January 13, 2017, 09:12:27 PM
Well for me bitcoin is really worth spending time to collect specially that it is worth a huge amount of money,And we can use it in to buy something that is important for us,but if you are referring on collecting it in some faucet site's and doesn't do anything, and just focusing on the faucet then I think you are just wasting your time,but if you are doing it with your free time and does not take it so seriously like putting all of your time just to collect some small amount of btc

Well no faucets are out of my mind. I will only Work on BTC if I find the right spot to have it worked in and start trading with it. I guess in that way I'll get the most out of it.
Working for bitcoin in freelancing way in part-time after regular work will be most suitable and must be a right way to collect bitcoin in my opinion.

I believe right now I'm doing some part of it as I still do not find the best freelancing job to suit my skill set. Trading is also my plan, I'm just getting ready myself for that. But before that I believe, I must have some decent amount of bitcoins.
I like to suggest you not to try trading in this volatile market instead of that just keep on saving bitcoins by buying it on regular basis. Trading will be good only in professional way and for a part-time freelancer I'm not suggesting it.

Collecting bitcoins definitely will worth for the time we are spending for it, but we cannot expect it with current price levels but definitely with future prices.
2239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: January 13, 2017, 07:19:03 PM
Those who walk out from casino without expecting more profit he/she is the perfect gambler. And they know the value of time and luck. The normal gambler never stops gambling if they are in profit. They will think to double their profit, but this is not possible in gambling every day. You will lose more money.
I believe number of such people will be few, and most of the people will continue for making more money or just to recover their lost money, because most of the gambler has weak will power and cannot stop them while playing gambling.

Only if a gambler has very clear plans and very strong will power, will be able to stop at right times in gambling. Otherwise only when they do do not have enough money to gamble, they will get enforced to stop.
2240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 13, 2017, 06:15:53 PM
I dont see why people keep risking their bitcoins into gambling knowing they will loose their coins into the short medium or long time, i do understand that be able to make extra bitcoins sound amazing, but the reality is another, we tend to loose money.

Exactly. But some people think they can make more Bitcoins through gambling and justify their gambling addiction by that. What a catastrophic mistake! How many times they have been told that one can't earn from gambling and still they stick to that stupid idea.

That's the power of gambling. People continue to gamble even though they know that most of them will lose in the end. Gambling able to hypnotize people with the lure of victory.
That is because of gambling seems to be one of the easiest ways of making money, as people want to make a lot of money in a very very short period of time. But they do not know the reality about gambling.

In most of the gambling games people lost their money, but still they want to continue without realizing the fact that they can even lose more money.

Definitely every gambler will be in loss in long run because in beginning days itself they are starting chasing their losses.
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