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1221  Economy / Economics / Re: good effect and bad effects of robots in replacing human Jobs on: November 25, 2017, 10:42:04 AM
as i said on the title what are the good effects and bad effects of robots in replacing human jobs.
What is your opinion about this guys.
yes of course there is good effect of robots in abig company to reduce human to work and less for the salary of human but, the bad effects for the human is they will stop to work and they dont have salary to buy their needs,thats why id rader choose that robots are bad effects to human.
That is even apparent already. Certainly, it would make a lot of work to be done faster and then products may become lesser in value since they are done faster and with less effort from the machines with only some little service once in a while.

On the human part, this has totally taken away jobs from a lot of people and will still keep doing that except for those with some technical skills when it comes to servicing the robots. Manual laborers on the other hand will get taken out of the show mostly.
1222  Economy / Economics / Re: it is possible fiat currency will crashed? on: November 25, 2017, 06:53:36 AM
It is for sure possible and that is what we are seeing right now actually because more and more people are realizing that FIAT is worthless as it was created by private organizations and is controlled by them so they can create fake debt through inflation that benefits them but it is at the expense of everybody else and this has been happening for so long so it needs to stop.
To me I think that It is looking an impossible job that the fiat currency will crashed because the fiat currency has build a firm trust in the hearts of the people all over the world as the people are using are it for the last several centuries. Furthermore fiat currency has physical shape that’s why all the people are very much confident over it and they are using it in their local markets.
Definitely, there is no doubt that it would be very hard for it to lose the mirage they have been able to put into the citizen's eye for them to understand that they have been enslaved all these while. Physical shape or not, it is one of the mirage we are talking about and once people start realizing that and as much as people keep losing that trust, then we will see whether it will or not.

Fiats have crashed before, but at the detriment of the masses which is why most people do not know. Checkout what is going on in Zimbabwe and you will know better.
1223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think you are a gambling expert? on: November 25, 2017, 06:02:09 AM
I really don't think I am an expert in gambling and I don't believe that anyone is really an expert when it comes to gambling,  because people are always losing money when gambling. The only expert when it comes to gambling is are the professional poker players.
gambling  experts don't exist if there was such a thing the worlds richest man would be a gambler and not all businessmen im sure many of the billionaires do gamble but they don't depend on it for there income it just fun for most of them

I agree with your point, we are all gamblers,But Could we think that we are depend on our gambling income? No, most of the gamblers will said no, because gambling give you fun, enjoyment and winning but as a income we couldn't use gambling.
And about the thread, i also don't think that i am expert gambler, even this idea never come in my mind, because if anyone think that he is expert in gambling then he is living in a dream world.   
lol they say no because they have already got a huge amount of loss and none in order to show other people that the loss he incurred in gambling isnt high they start making claims that they are gambling for only fun but in reality that is a form of their income
I really wonder why anyone will really want to consider gambling as their source of income. I feel you though that most people have been dealt with in gambling and then they come here to kind of give you the gospel that gamble only for fun so you do not lose everything.

Even though, it is really the mindset to have and anyone who feels they really want to make money, should better just stay away from gambling because they will absolutely lose more than they can imagine unless luck decided to leave every other person to come to them.
1224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did you started to gamble? What was your beginning like? on: November 25, 2017, 04:57:40 AM
Now i am here in bitcointalk then definitely i play bitcoin gambling, because of bitcoin. It is right when bitcoin came in my life then i started to play gambling. But first time when i started to play it, i really don't remember it, because my memory is not good. But i guess since my childhood i played little games with my friends for betting.   
Apparently, there is no beginning here that won't be crazy. I have never gambled before in my life and then I had some bitcoin which I bought initially and then I bumped into one stupid strategy on YouTube that talked about some strategy to win on freebitco.in with a lot of comments saying, thanks, you are good etc. And then I thought to myself that I have arrived and I am so ready to be made.

It all started well in the first few days, until one fateful day, I had one very long streak that zapped all my 0.5BTC. I cannot forget how pissed I was that day. Unfortunately for me the next day, I hope I could recover Grin ... The rest now is history.
1225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin casino's are the FUTURE! on: November 25, 2017, 04:32:43 AM
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to say that bitcoin casinos are so much better then normal one's, most of the bitcoin casinos have instant cashouts when you look at normal casinos it takes atleast 5 days to get the money to your bank account.

BITCOIN CASINOS ARE THE FUTURE!  Grin Grin Grin Grin

I'm not sure about the 5 days withdrawals about a online fiat casino, but I sure do think that bitcoin casino's are so much better because it has given us options to play without divulging our personal information. Although there are still cheaters and exploiters of the system. Its just normal even if a land based casinos, there are a lot of cheaters are well.


When I withdraw from pokerstars.es to my local bank account I have my money in less than 24 hours. For most casinos, if you withdraw with Neteller or Skrill it’s just few hours, provided that your account is verified.

What I agree with is that bitcoin casinos seem to have a bright future, they are a booming industry and it still has a long way ahead.

It is really booming a whole lot and even most people who had no idea much about how online casinos work in the past tend to end up finding an easy way to make use of their digital currency to gamble without having to go through the banks.

The feelings of wanting to double ones money which most new gamblers see is what is really making the industry boom right now, therefore bright future is imminent for these guys.
1226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I lost 80% of my bitcoins in alts, What can I do now?! on: November 24, 2017, 06:39:49 PM
The recent bitcoin's forks drama continue, and bitcoin is pumping up again, so I think altcoins will go down in recent weeks. Maybe the price of Bitcoin will drop soon and altcoins will go up.
Bitcoin is really showing a huge sign of having some huge runs but who knows ?
The alts are really being suppressed right now and until we see some balance that would last for a while, it would still be very hard to see some of the alts doing well.

Price of bitcoin may not really go down that much and even if we may have to see corrections now, it would not be below $6,750 hopefully. But nothing is constant and anything can happen with alts any moment.
1227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which one would like to invest in? on: November 24, 2017, 05:52:00 PM
For short term investments I chose altcoin but for a long term investment I chose Bitcoin because of the ever-increasing adoption of Bitcoin.
I will have to agree with you on this. I personally do not really like holding some alts for so long and the few I hold for long are mostly profits from first trade. Altcoins have always been good for short term and mostly in trading them. All the above, looking at the level at which bitcoin is moving fast and the adoption is increasing daily, then the chances for its growth is quite huge and for long term, most definite one to always consider.
1228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is there any cryptocurrency which can be mined with a laptop? on: November 24, 2017, 03:55:31 PM
There are more than eight hundred crypto currencies available in the crypto market, bitcoin is the first crypto currency in the market and this cannot be mined with computers or laptops as it requires more electrical and hash power generating machines, but still there are many other crypto currencies like monero, bytecoin, digitalnote, dashcoin and many other crypto currencies which can be mined at home using a desktop or laptop. The value of these crypto currencies will increase in the future. GPU or Graphic processing units can help to mine bitcoins and other crypto currencies.
Even mining monero with your laptop these days is not really worth it that much. Still, from your last point and the value of the cryptocurrencies increasing later in future, they are really worth a try, most especially if one has a free PC running and some free electricity.

I have heard of someone who mines monero with his official PC and leaves the PC running 247 since he does not have to pay for anything anyway. Hope he does not get to lose his job doing that anyway.
1229  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Daytrading for living. Myth or reality? on: November 24, 2017, 11:04:08 AM
real. possible.

becuzz so soft markets for pro traders. so easy predictable for pro. no any regulation no any goverment surveillance. %90 population amateur fish home trader.

That is exactly my main argument. As no big players in crypto who can manipulate markets as they do it in classic markets
If you know there are whales in the markets, then you would not say this.
They have huge influence on the market since they have a lot of money and resources to do so anyway. It is a huge market and in as much as there are lots of cryptocurrencies, there are also some whales in high places that can manipulate the market for profit. You just have to know how to play along. The recent pump in BCH is one of them.
1230  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to know when to sell? on: November 24, 2017, 07:05:05 AM
Can i anybody put me through the basics of knowing when to sell and when to hold?...
I actually don't know much about market rise in demand and supply and it's affecting me in daily trade of cryptocurrency.
To be honest with you, you have to learn some few stuffs about trading since it seems you have no single knowledge and markets are always different as you have to analyze the charts most times to know the exact moment to buy or not.

Simply, most people will tell you to buy at lows and sell at peaks but not that simple if you do not even know how to detect that low and how to get out if you make the wrong move.
1231  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how control my emotion?? on: November 24, 2017, 06:28:55 AM
I had invested into some altcoins when bitcoin were at 6000 dollars, and since those period almost all altcoins went down, i had resisted to cut my losses and i had hold it for a while, i had ignored altcoin value and follow bitcoin, since i knew altcoins would recover once price fall a bit. But i know is very hard to control emotion when you are playing with money and you are loosing as well winning, because our greedy make us take a risk we wouldnt take if were into similiar value into loss.
Depending on the coin one is holding, it is really hard to control some emotions but it is always best to know the best decisions to make because that is what matters.

My decision was totally different from the one you made and obviously better. After studying the market and I noticed there is going to be a huge dump at the long run since it was expected, I sold at loss and waited for a very long moment for the dumps to reduce and then I bought again.

Now, I am counting my huge profits than the few losses I made and still expecting even more from the pumps. It is always good to have a strategy which would always help you to make the right decision than being emotional.
1232  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin drop to $3000? on: November 23, 2017, 06:26:20 PM
I guess everything is possible with BTC, the best like the worst. However, dropping to 3.000 USD can be a good thing for investors  Wink
Do you think it would even get lower up to that before investors see a chance to quickly pick up ? There is a way market works and unless they create a huge FUD that caused a very serious impact which I doubt can ever happen at this stage no matter the FUD, then there is absolutely no way the value can get as low as that. You will be extremely lucky to even get it at $5000 right now.

No certainly not seems it because it demands all over the world is increasing and people are investing a large number of bitcoins in it so it sems that price will be rising but fall to such level as you mention.
The demand is pretty high right now, the big players are getting interested which in itself will cause more adoption. How then do we expect that such a value at $3000 can ever happen? There are some things we should not even bother wishing for anymore, and rather than wishing for a lower value, it is best to buy now and join the investors who are wishing to sell their coins above $190,000.
1233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin UP BitCoinCash DOWN on: November 23, 2017, 02:16:43 PM
Finally, after too much pump on bitcoin cash this past days from new accounts made for that particular reason the fork coin “Bitcoin cash” will soon be back to its well deserved arrangement as shitcoin. They’ve tried and soon will make the same scenario and have the tendency to failed again. Bitcoin is still the king and always be for many years to come in the cryptocurrency world and investments. Tired of Bitcoin is a bubble FUD by this menions.
It has always been a shitcoin all along and whereas some people decided to keep a blind eye to that and still went all in hoping for some really good deed for them in BCH as the coin as claimed is replacing bitcoin (that really got me laughing), then I would not bat a lid to feel sorry for them.

Ver will obviously want to try to test the market again and I am really trying to see what he is going to have to say this time around as traders will so much dump their coin pretty fast.
1234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Its possible bitcoin going down under 7K this weekend? on: November 23, 2017, 01:16:48 PM
The price as of now is already 8k dollars and maybe it will decrease but we don't know when we dont know if this weekend.
But i hope the price of bitcoin will continue to increase.
The truth is that no one really knows what the outcome of bitcoin can be and only one scenario would really have caused bitcoin to get below $7000 in the first place which the chances of it breaking that support level was so low. Still, we are already having some new support at $7700 so far and anything below that though can make it go lower or we might just have to break another resistance from what I am seeing.
1235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think you are a gambling expert? on: November 22, 2017, 10:14:10 AM
Absolutely not. I'm just an expert to lose in gambling. So, have to give up and go away from gambling. Then, looking another alternative to grow the btc i hold.
LOL. I really would want to believe we are all expert losers instead since we always end up losing at some point one way or the other. The way I always see gambling is you paying for some fun and you are then left to decide how much you want to pay for that fun or not which you could get lucky to get your payment back and even given some extra but rare.

This has always made me to control myself in gambling and see myself as an experienced gambler and not an expert, cause there is nothing that makes an expert gambler as long as you will still lose at some point.
1236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The gambler destroyed on: November 22, 2017, 08:31:24 AM
Op who said they already know how to outsmart gambling sites wants to sell his strategy. Why would you sell it if you'll be crazy rich because of your technique? Doesn't make sense right? because it is really not working  for sure.
If anyone should have a strategy right now, the last thing they would even want to do is to sell it. The more you blow it out, the more the gambling sites realize the loop hole and they readjust. Aside these, it is just a sorry case because they already know all these tricks which is why we cannot beat the house edge to it most times. I have noticed that even in dice the losing streaks have gotten even longer in most dice games than we use to have them in the past.
1237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why people are sharing tips? on: November 22, 2017, 07:00:11 AM
It seems quite strange actually, if you can really win long term then why not just profit yourself, you can get infinitely rich. It's like those people who claim they have a winning strategy on the roulette and try to sell it, why not use it yourself if it works?

I don't find it something strange because it's quite a norm now if someone is good at predicting and giving good tips for gambling games or specific with sports betting that's also a success for them if the people followed their tips are also winning. They are just not selfish to become rich only by themselves but they want to share it so they keep on helping people and just trying to help us with their tips but don't blame them if you follow their tips and it fails.

Exactly. And I think there's a unwritten rule for gamblers to really share a good tip if they have one. I remember a friend back then who is giving us good tips in horse racing because he is close to some of the horse owners and he himself is a horse training. It was really a good tip because we have won a lot of money back then. So I believed that each gamblers loves to share this tips to fellow gamblers.
When people are good at something they love to show off, I know that if I had the skill I will show off a little bit so people know that I’m a good gambler that earns money and that I’m not like the rest of the 99% of the gamblers that only lose money, but unfortunately I’m like 99% of the gamblers and I lose money when I gamble.
It is normal to always show off and anyone good at something most especially in this internet age can easily see an avenue to build followers pretty fast from that.

This is just not normal gambling that totally depends on luck as there is nothing to show off in that, but sports gambling/prediction, and some stuffs that has to do with some little bit of analysis. Imagine how fun it is always hitting the greens on those more than the reds.
1238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best way to quit gambling and start trading?? on: November 22, 2017, 04:28:56 AM
If you enjoy gambling then probably you won't quit it. Maybe add trading as one of your assets to bring you more possible income if you have made the right decisions and right strategies. I hope that he or she could balance it. With the right amount of gambling and trading side by side.
It totally depends on the person involved. If he finds trading as a better way to put his money and make some profit after learning how to trade safely, then I see no reason why he should not make his own decisions based on that. Most people see gambling as not fun, but a way to make some money by playing their luck which gets crazy as they keep losing sometimes.
1239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MINING ON YOUR ANDROID PHONE on: November 19, 2017, 06:15:33 AM
If this were possible, it would be very good

This is not at all possible hope people who would have tried it would have being felt pathetic because it will eat away your battery quickly and your life of the phone gets affected due to overheating and continuous charging of the phone. So avoid doing any of such things with mobile phone.
It will even deteriorate the phone's life in the long run. I tried testing the freebitco.in mobile mining which is more of a Monero converted to bitcoin immediately mining and my phone became so hot even at just 2 threads and 80% CPU usage and what did I get at the end ?

1 satoshi after 20 minutes. It is really pointless and for the fact that you will have to either leave your phone plugged to the charger and keep your data running, it is totally not worth it.
1240  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Investing all my savings! on: November 19, 2017, 04:25:24 AM
This would be a big decision that gou are investing all your money. See 1st thing is investing in bitcoin is for long period is risky maybe that time bitcoin having a highest value but you can earn money for short duration by investing these 3 norms.
The truth is that it takes a lot of gut to invest in anything in this life and every investment comes with a risk which bitcoin is not exempted. However, let us face one fact, in as much as no one knows the future, but looking at the situation of things and the interest bitcoin has generated, it can really be tempting to want to go all into bitcoin for savings and investment at the same time.

Nevertheless, one does not have to be too greedy in life and even if we are to want to take our chances, it is always good to leave out something just in case the unspeakable happens.
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