I am not going to lie that porsche is sexy
damn yeah, I've created a wallet to gather money just for that Good Luck, when you get it you have to take pictures. Maybe even take it to a track? |
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I am not going to lie that porsche is sexy
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$5 and I never invested a dollar, just worked hard
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I'm going back to my initial thoughts from a few years ago (and taking the side of myself that wishes for the best health of Bitcoin...)
I wish the entire project to be head-less and any hierarchy to be nebulous and ill defined. This will make it more difficult to attack and manipulate in a predictable way. I believe things would work out that way and 'Bitcoin' would be better for it.
I think a lot of people would love a headless bitcoin system, but obvious the power at be, have different plans for that. On the other end of the spectrum (where a different side of me lives) the Bitcoin Foundation is doing a decent job of making me rich off my speculation. That's fine with me to. Those who would mold Bitcoin into a system which could be adopted more or less in-total by large corporations would probably make me richer faster so there is a side of me that favors that path as well.
The bitcoin foundation is doing that? Also bitcoin foundation isn't make anyone rich, that is the free market and the passion of the community. I know I have contacted many sites, begging and even helping them to accept bitcoins. So thank you for crediting the foundation for the communities hard work. Also I am pretty sure bitpay, and coinbase are making it easier for large corporations to operate with little overhead in the bitcoin. The bitcoin foundation has done nothing but fill the pockets of one person, that is why we need to break the monopoly, but it will be very tough. As bitcoin could be easily aligned to bitcoin foundation views since the dev members control the foundation, another foundation or council would not be able to have that same effect. It is power would have to come from the people only and it will not be an easy battle, it would be a very difficult and more pseudo-political power. |
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I think what this forum needs is MORE moderators that do actual moderating. this thread belongs in the trash
Yes lets restrict the forums so it shows only approved messages. |
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i didnt buy it for mining i just want to make few bucks when its on. it can really ruin my computer?
You will not make any bucks, you will probably lose money and ruin your computer, yes cause your making the GPU work extra hard in a manner it was not designed for especially in a mac. |
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you can badly ruin your mac, macs aren't made for this type of gpu processing. I would recommend you don't mine, it isn't profitable. If you have to mine get an ASIC machine.
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who is giving out $100,000 loans, just to buy BBQ, i need to met this dude, I have a bridge to sell him.
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I fucked you 2 times in 2 days, nice pigeon
His PM, pretty obvious, he will scam yu , mods please block his ip, he uses many screen names
His account was hacked... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198321.0 |
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drawing its value from a series of calculations that determine, from difficulty, transactions etc. how much 1BTC is worth
Clearly you have not idea what decentralized currency means, look it up some time, 1 BTC will always be worth 1 BTC, it isn't tied to any one currency. This bring into another issue, how do we tell people that to think of bitcoin as bitcoin, and not as storage for dollars or yen. I mean 1BTC == 1BTC regardless of the trading. I said how much 1BTC is worth, not how much 1BTC is worth IN RELATION TO <insert currency here>. I think the client should be able to get an idea of how much 1BTC is worth to society by looking at the difficulty, amount mined so far, average amount transacted(example: today when BTC is young 0.01 transactions are faitly common, someday when that amount will be worth a small fortune, they'll be much more rare and people will be trading amounts like 0.00001BTC) and get an idea of how much is considered to lack meaningful value and then set that as a lower limit for transactions. But that is cause the free market deems that as the value. 1BTC value can't be gotten from how many are mine or how much the difficulty is. That is your flaw in your thinking, you think that some meaning full value comes about cause of the difficultly or how many are out there, in reality it is the free markets that deem bitcoin is the ~$100. I stopped short of giving an outright formula because I don't know how to translate this data into free market value. Clearly a 10x increase in difficulty won't be a 10x increase in value, but somebody's gotta figure it out. I support a dynamic transfer limit, and the only way BTC can figure out where to set that limit is from within its own statistics. Exactly how it would do this I do not know, but it stores a LOT of data, it can make many statistics out of this data, and interpreted in the right way, it might work. You can for example, take a random country, of which you know nothing except for the fact that a say 80% of the transactions happening everywhere are worth around 100000 units of currency, 12% are 10000000 units, and 4% are 100000000000, and you can pretty much get an idea that that currency is most likely hyperinflated and the value of a single unit is likely nonimportant. You don't even have to know what the transactions are buying/selling. Statistics is a flawed math system, when it comes to these types of random variables. You can't accurately predict the free market, and include that information in the blockchain. Who even knows if those people using bitcoins even take into consideration that they are pinning it to another currency. Maybe they are saying 1BTC is worth on it's own, without another currency, 3 bags of rice. You can't predict what transactions are being pinned to a currency and not, and if you did pin bitcoin protocol to another currency, then you are saying that bitcoin is indeed a medium of transfer not a currency. |
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drawing its value from a series of calculations that determine, from difficulty, transactions etc. how much 1BTC is worth
Clearly you have not idea what decentralized currency means, look it up some time, 1 BTC will always be worth 1 BTC, it isn't tied to any one currency. This bring into another issue, how do we tell people that to think of bitcoin as bitcoin, and not as storage for dollars or yen. I mean 1BTC == 1BTC regardless of the trading. I said how much 1BTC is worth, not how much 1BTC is worth IN RELATION TO <insert currency here>. I think the client should be able to get an idea of how much 1BTC is worth to society by looking at the difficulty, amount mined so far, average amount transacted(example: today when BTC is young 0.01 transactions are faitly common, someday when that amount will be worth a small fortune, they'll be much more rare and people will be trading amounts like 0.00001BTC) and get an idea of how much is considered to lack meaningful value and then set that as a lower limit for transactions. But that is cause the free market deems that as the value. 1BTC value can't be gotten from how many are mine or how much the difficulty is. That is your flaw in your thinking, you think that some meaning full value comes about cause of the difficultly or how many are out there, in reality it is the free markets that deem bitcoin is the ~$100. |
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drawing its value from a series of calculations that determine, from difficulty, transactions etc. how much 1BTC is worth
Clearly you have not idea what decentralized currency means, look it up some time, 1 BTC will always be worth 1 BTC, it isn't tied to any one currency. This bring into another issue, how do we tell people that to think of bitcoin as bitcoin, and not as storage for dollars or yen. I mean 1BTC == 1BTC regardless of the trading. |
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what do you think pays more? google adsense or one of these systems? I don't know, I just rather have bitcoin, since I pay my hosting in bitcoins. |
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No your going to the wrong direction, your going to the alt-coin that is too extreme, I still love bitcoins, I am not going anywhere. Bitcoins are my career, and this is just a bump in the experiment, don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
I'm wondering if you had some hope of using the 'cheap subsidized messaging' capabilities of Bitcoin for some project or another and got a dose of cold water in the face? Nope, not at all, I just feel it is something that takes it too far off of the white papers, that it isn't bitcoin anymore it is devteamcoin or something. Gweedo, before you start your career in Bitcoin, you need to get through the 5th grade. "You're", not "Your."
Dude just stop your off-topic, your not helping in anyway, but doing that. We got your point, you think I am dumb, good now bye. P.S just to throw salt on your wound, I am already started my career, and I am probably richer than you will ever be, so you can be jealous. |
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Would I said it is time for a fork I don't know yet. If I could get Peter Thiel and Paul Allen to join a new foundation for a new cryptocurrency that preserves some of the best features of Bitcoin, yet implements some of the features of the Hard Fork wishlist. Would you consider adopting it? I was thinking about a system with 100 million bitcoin2.0s with 21 million premined and given to a special exchange allowing bitcoiners to convert their holdings in btc to btc2.0 on a 1-1 conversion rate. Miners would have control of transaction fees by a market system. Perhaps develop a P2P currency exchange to eliminate the need for a Mtgox. I might write a whitepaper over the Summer. No your going to the wrong direction, your going to the alt-coin that is too extreme, I still love bitcoins, I am not going anywhere. Bitcoins are my career, and this is just a bump in the experiment, don't throw the baby out with the bath water. |
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All you need to do is change your config file. It's not too difficult. I'd suggest that you develop your own client but changing the config file of 8.2 would be simpler. Your "problem" is solved.
That isn't true at all, if the miners don't change there config with is on by default then they are supporting the change and you are forced to go with it. |
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Gweedo you need to be a bit more patient with people. You're attacking Gavin for doing something and then when I ask what would you like to do you say it's not my job. Ok, I gather that so I ask about an alternative system. I'm sorry if someone asked this before, I just came to this thread.
But let me ask a slightly broader question. Do you still feel the bitcoin protocol reflects your philosophy? Or has the time come in your opinion for a fork?
I am not a attacking Gavin. I am saying what I don't like, just like a president (didn't use that word on accident), I am voicing my opinion. That is like asking "Bob why is alice failing at her job" well bob would answer "I don't know I don't study her job I do my own jobs, I know the outline of what her job should be and she doesn't deliver that so I would say no she isn't" The bitcoin protocol doesn't reflect my views currently on that aspect. Would I said it is time for a fork I don't know yet. |
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It's a good idea 68 (26.3%)
It's a good idea, But not at 5430 Satoshi 12 (4.6%)
It's a bad idea 86 (33.2%)
It's a bad idea, It should be a lower # of btc 3 (1.2%)
It's a temporary fix that should adjust with price 32 (12.4%)
It's a temporary fix that should be revised later 58 (22.4%)
Total Voters: 259
Just want to point out majority think it is a bad idea... this voting hasn't changed "It's a bad idea" has been in the lead the whole time.
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