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2281  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 21, 2015, 01:01:06 AM
sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC


I've used that for a long time. It's also been previously posted in this thread.



You have favorite books as i see , if something positive/good on your favorite books (anonibet) you always highlight it, but if you found something bad on other books then you highlight only the negative things (directbet)

Check the multiple payout toolip and you will see that you cant place the same amount bet, but only partial amount  
Use only normal leagues ( not NBA, champions league soccer and other top leagues)  
A professional gambler bet on value bets not top league markets    (so top league markets high multiple limits means nothing)

DirectBet was brought up by another poster yesterday. That's why it's been discussed the last 2 days. Prior to that DirectBet was almost never discussed.

A poster stated that he thinks BTCBook is the only BTC book with race to. I stated that Anoniobet has that. You stated that you couldn't keep popping a bet until recently. That's always been available. When there were complaints against Anonibet, they were taken off the rating's guide. That was recently.

I try to stay on topic of the book being discussed along with presenting new information.
2282  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 21, 2015, 12:09:31 AM
I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Do you know how many bets each site is taking?


i can calculate it.   But as i see you like anonibet and you placed some bet there. So what if you register to all rated books and try to place some bet (with the lowest allowed stake) and check it by yourself,  hm ?    If i were a  bookmakers rating topic  administrator then probably this would be my first experience with all books: to check all of them: register, deposit,place bet, check grading times, withdrawal, and repeat it every month at least once)


I do all that with every book except ticket count since that can be inaccurate.
2283  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 20, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
Now that BTCBook is clean again, BTCBook raised from "F" to "D"
2284  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 20, 2015, 09:00:10 PM

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Well those numbers can be manipulated by the book though. Smaller or scam books could do this to make it appear they have several bets coming in when in reality they're not.

Peeps: you have anymore info on btcbook.eu - They had problems before with withdrawals but eventually paid out and there haven't been many complaints in their thread since. Odds are decent and they sometimes offer asian totals and handicaps for soccer, something I've been looking for awhile.

I also like their new NCAA and NBA props:
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-ncaa-basketball-props-betting
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-nba-basketball-props-betting

Race to 20 and above, first team to score and those type of props. Have seen those before at fiat books but never a btc book.


I'm with you in liking the lines at BTCBook. There haven't been any recent complaints. They keep adding markets. The race to is something that can be found at Anonibet during their live betting.
2285  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 20, 2015, 08:52:58 PM
sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC


I've used that for a long time. It's also been previously posted in this thread.
2286  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 20, 2015, 04:32:23 PM
I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Do you know how many bets each site is taking?
2287  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 20, 2015, 04:28:29 PM
New to BCT  betkurus.com NR
2288  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 20, 2015, 12:20:17 PM
The last 24 hours at DirectBet


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why is it that everytime I try to bet on your site..! It goes down on maintenance n Im not able to bet.! #totallydisappointed

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it could be just a coincidence, although in this week , directbet has actually alot of downtime that cause the customer to be inconvenient, but the fact that you always cant bet is a coincidence that you better when the site is on maintenance

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Betting was suspended for a few minutes while we upgraded our automated betting system.

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directbet can you please have all odds 12 hours before your games so we can bet on games we want,i cant bet on games i want because there are a lot of games that i can pick in that game,really anoyed with it!!

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Please sir reply to my PM , help me last time , i wont ask for help from next time, you are a great admin please help me

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I agree as well,people who want my bets need the odds for my picks,and i currently cant give my picks because i dont have any odds on those bets,and i always see bets couple of hours before those matches,but i need them for example 12 hours earlier,for example i need the odds for nba matches that are tonight so i can post those picks

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Who is the Direct Bet's odds provider? If the odds for a particular event aren't available it's likely the odds providers haven't released them for the general public yet?

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Germany budes league betting market 2 is not available why ??

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Our data providers are currently experiencing an outage and as a result most sport bets are not available.

We will update you later as soon as this is resolved. Please accept our apologies

2289  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 20, 2015, 12:08:37 PM
I deposited 1.4 bitcoin on anonibet 2 weeks ago, placed 4 player proposition wagers at max bet (.5 bitcoin), won 2, lost 2, then last week, my max bet was lowered to .1 bitcoin, so I tried to cashout my 1.3 bitcoins and it was saying invalid pin code, so after a quick email response(they are very quick), they said I had to enter my pin code(which I never even setup in the first place) in order to cashout, so after another email, they reply: The pin code setting is a feature that was installed in order  protect customers account therefore it will take at least 72 hours for the pincode to be disabled etc..., so after 120 hours go by with no response, I try to log onto my acccount and it won't let me login saying: "sorry, your ip location seems to be from a country with legal restrictions on gambling...etc", now they're telling me to use a VPN service? so, last night, I had my friend(who lives .5 miles from me w/ same zip code) open an account, and he had no problems with his IP, and he doesnt use VPN, so this login restriction thing seems bs...
When you talk to your friend again have him type in http://www.whatismyip.com/ or http://whatismyipaddress.com/. It will show his location. It would be interesting to see the location of the corresponding IP.
2290  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 11:57:10 PM
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JETWIN – FUNCTIONALITY UPDATE
Fixed BTC exchange rate for the withdrawal of funds

JETWIN was the first Bitcoin bookmaker company to offer its customers accounts not only in BTC, but also in the traditional currencies, such as, USD, GBP and EUR. Deposits are made quite easily – they are instantly processed and the customer knows the exact exchange rate, as it is indicated on the deposit form. However, the situation with withdrawals is different. Only 95% of the payouts are made instantly, and, moreover, the system uses the exchange rate that is actual at that moment when bitcoins are physically sent to the customer, and not the one fixed at the time of the request. This means that the gamer is unable to foresee the exact exchange rate for the withdrawal.
This situation has raised many questions among customers, and the main requirement was as follows: the customer must know the exact currency exchange rate at which the funds will be converted during the withdrawal. Considering all the above, we have decided to improve the situation by implementing a new logic as to how the withdrawal process should be changed. As a result, we made it possible for the customer to decide upon the fixed exchange rate that funds should be converted at during the withdrawal, regardless of whether the transaction is instant or not. The customer should confirm the exact amount when filling out the withdrawal form.
In addition, we have updated the design of both deposit and withdrawal forms by making them simpler and more comprehensive for the customer.

Contact us
Should you have any queries regarding our recent system update, please do not hesitate to contact our Customer Support team via e-mail. They will be pleased to assist you
2291  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 11:26:20 PM

Instead of insults, let's stick to the facts. Please list all the advantages that DirectBet has over other books.

The downtime isn't recent. It's an ongoing problem.

IMO, the only advantage directbet has is live betting. I haven't had any problems with downtime or getting paid from directbet in the past but their odds are TERRIBLE compared to nitro. I got bored of sports betting and to busy with other things so haven't been to directbet much in the past few months so can't comment on recent downtime and payouts.

Directbet also appear to have a bunch of shills, not sure if they're getting paid with free bets or what. Either shills or people who haven't bet anywhere else so wouldn't know how bad their odds are. Include them in a poll and watch those shills vote them to the top  Cheesy I remember seeing a poll where they beat primedice and a couple of other sites combined. Which is pretty hard to believe considering primedice alone has a good amount of supporters who are more active on this forum and their chat.
I agree with most of what you stated. DirectBet does make things entertaining with the shills.
2292  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 10:48:00 PM
"Such a list would be easy to compile for anonibet."

To say nothing of the ongoing issue of them offering a non-sustainable bonus, seizing funds for bonus abuse without defining bonus abuse, etc., etc.
we can pick holes in every book but have to look at the totality.

With the seizing of funds on that one person I asked him if he wanted help. He didn't want help thus I couldn't look at his account. From the little that I did see that was posted in the Anonibet thread, he was making 1.01 bets. I'm not sure how Anonibet calculates rollovers, it could be the lessor of the risk/payout.

Since I don't have permission to look into the account, it has to be considered a non-factor.

edit- Besides that, you have to look at the credibility of the poster. The player posted a lot of misinformation.
2293  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 09:46:57 PM
Part of the reason for so much downtime at DirectBet is lack of man power. If another site goes down, they have multiple programmers to fix the problem. Most of the other sites have experienced gamblers as part of their team. DirectBet is still learning on the job.

I seriously hope the best for DirectBet but as stated in a previous post, they are an amateur operation. They aren't close to the quality of the other books.

2294  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 09:43:40 PM
I don't know if this is still a problem but a player posted a parlay ticket at DirectBet. The parlay showed the total risk/win amount but didn't show the odds of each leg. If one leg pushes the player should know the price of that leg to properly calculate the winnings.
2295  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 09:33:03 PM
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Our website is under attack. I apology for the inconvenience caused. We are working to resolve this matter.

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Yeah n other at least announce before taking a maintenance break..!! but this completely caught me by surprise..!! I was just about to bet on something.! now I c

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yes even i am shocked why they need so many maintainance while others take very few !

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"Maintenance in progress. Please check back in a few minutes." Again?? Shocked

what is going on with this site?

2296  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 09:30:42 PM
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Directbet site is having a BIG BUG . I want to report it but just was curious any bounty in case you realize the bug

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If you placed a bet with us during the past few hours, I would appreciate if you can post here and confirm that you received your winnings instantly as usual, to ease the mind of those concerned.

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Thanks for the reply but Im still having problems accessing the site..It shows "The service is unavailable." when Im trying to go to the game I want to bet on.! This is really irritating.! n Im still not able to bet on games.! Please Fix it as soon as possible.!

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It is back.! I hope my on going bets r safe.! Smiley I might not use DB for anymore bets for now though.! Ill just see how the website stays for a few days n then get back if it doesnt have any more attacks. I dont feel it is safe anymore.

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is it down again for me too. says

Maintenance in progress. Please check back in a few minutes.

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Please Improve your security or you will be losing some valuable customers..! Half of the ppl bet here as they do not have to make a 3rd party deposit.! but with this happening quite frequently..I might not risk it on your site again..! Btw.. Will all the payouts be processed once this is solved? I have quite a loot of money riding on it.
2297  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 09:27:05 PM
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Hi, I have a bet which says Bet Status : Settlement in Progress but I still haven't received it.

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Hi, I have a bet which says Bet Status : Settlement in Progress but I still haven't received it.
It has been almost 2 hours now, even when my wallet says 3 confirmations completed for the initial bet.
http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=115GnhEPaF9pxd4bt7KTZQTXax2uJXP4Z2

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We had to do some maintenance work on our Bitcoin wallet for a few minutes.

Try again now. Bitcoin betting is now enabled.
2298  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 09:25:50 PM
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Thank you for your answer maybe your right
But i need the answer from DirectBet why
Message : A manual review is required.

DirectBet is an amateur operation compared to other books.
2299  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 09:24:04 PM
Realistically they aren't close to an "A" rated book. If you look at their thread, they have down time and grading problems on a daily basis. Their rating should be "C-"

It seems that many people promoting DirectBet haven't played at other books. If you compare DirectBet to other books there aren't any advantages to playing at Directbet other than not having to deposit.

This is actually a negative since there are more steps in making a bet with DirectBet causing players to get shut out at DirectBet more than any other book.




Along with Nitrogen they are in fact the only book deserving to be even close to an A grade. So what they have downtime? I wouldn't say these are on a daily basis but yes they have become more frequent lately. Grading problems are to do with the odds providers, not the sites themselves and are unavoidable, although, having bet at DB for almost a year, I've never had to wait more than an hour for a payout. I bet several times a day.

I actually use many books but DirectBet is the best for me. I don't see how no deposits is a negative either and I think that further emphasizes your obvious bias against DirectBet. Bet transfers are "seen" by their system in 99% of cases for me within 5-10 seconds.

Along with the "negotiate" option when live betting you have no risk of misplacing bets, and the only risk of losing funds is if the book runs away whilst your events are in progress. For me, the no deposit thing is probably the best invention a sportsbook could use and eliminates most of their ability to shut up shop with a lot of money in their pocket.

That's a massive plus. Like I said, Nitrogen is the only book that is close to DirectBet as things stand and this is plain for most to see. It's time you put your childish feud with DirectBet to bed, Peeps.

Instead of insults, let's stick to the facts. Please list all the advantages that DirectBet has over other books.

The downtime isn't recent. It's an ongoing problem.
2300  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 19, 2015, 09:21:27 PM
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And I don't know is did my bet went through or not?

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Your bet was confirmed. I sent you a PM with more details.

The problem with our website has been resolved.

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We're currently experiencing a technical problem. We are working to resolve it as quickly as possible and I will update you shortly.

I apology for the inconvenience caused.

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Yes exactly, now I see this as well. So will the bet go through or not since the event starts in 10 mins.

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he sent money before maintance and now its maintaince and no bets will be processed, hence this is happening .

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Hello,

It has been 20 minutes since I made a bet. I am seeing this:

Bet Status : Pending

Message : Transfer received. Your bet will be processed shortly. Please check back momentarily.

And I don't know is did my bet went through or not?

Thanks

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If your web site is down you can't see this info.  You web site was not accessible to me (in the UK) from 2130UTC on the 14th until the point I made my last "chasing my losses" bet at about 1100UTC on the 15th.

Directbet:  Please could you reply to my email with your correspondence address.  I'd like to ask my solicitor to clear up a few hopefully minor inconsistencies in conversations and versions of events over the last few days and I would like this to be done out of the public eye.

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However, something I learned while betting everywhere; once the site starts getting buggy, you cash out and wait for the storm to pass. There are thousands of sites waiting for your money, so I'd recommend just visiting another site until the trouble is gone.

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The result for this bet is a Push. Your bet has now been settled and refunded.

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