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I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Do you know how many bets each site is taking?

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March 20, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
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You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Well those numbers can be manipulated by the book though. Smaller or scam books could do this to make it appear they have several bets coming in when in reality they're not.

Peeps: you have anymore info on btcbook.eu - They had problems before with withdrawals but eventually paid out and there haven't been many complaints in their thread since. Odds are decent and they sometimes offer asian totals and handicaps for soccer, something I've been looking for awhile.

I also like their new NCAA and NBA props:
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-ncaa-basketball-props-betting
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-nba-basketball-props-betting

Race to 20 and above, first team to score and those type of props. Have seen those before at fiat books but never a btc book.

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March 20, 2015, 07:54:23 PM
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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?
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March 20, 2015, 08:07:56 PM
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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC

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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC


I've used that for a long time. It's also been previously posted in this thread.

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You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Well those numbers can be manipulated by the book though. Smaller or scam books could do this to make it appear they have several bets coming in when in reality they're not.

Peeps: you have anymore info on btcbook.eu - They had problems before with withdrawals but eventually paid out and there haven't been many complaints in their thread since. Odds are decent and they sometimes offer asian totals and handicaps for soccer, something I've been looking for awhile.

I also like their new NCAA and NBA props:
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-ncaa-basketball-props-betting
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-nba-basketball-props-betting

Race to 20 and above, first team to score and those type of props. Have seen those before at fiat books but never a btc book.


I'm with you in liking the lines at BTCBook. There haven't been any recent complaints. They keep adding markets. The race to is something that can be found at Anonibet during their live betting.

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March 20, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
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Now that BTCBook is clean again, BTCBook raised from "F" to "D"

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March 20, 2015, 11:54:14 PM
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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC


I've used that for a long time. It's also been previously posted in this thread.



You have favorite books as i see , if something positive/good on your favorite books (anonibet) you always highlight it, but if you found something bad on other books then you highlight only the negative things (directbet)

Check the multiple payout toolip and you will see that you cant place the same amount bet, but only partial amount  
Use only normal leagues ( not NBA, champions league soccer and other top leagues)  
A professional gambler bet on value bets not top league markets    (so top league markets high multiple limits means nothing)
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March 21, 2015, 12:01:16 AM
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I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Do you know how many bets each site is taking?


i can calculate it.   But as i see you like anonibet and you placed some bet there. So what if you register to all rated books and try to place some bet (with the lowest allowed stake) and check it by yourself,  hm ?    If i were a  bookmakers rating topic  administrator then probably this would be my first experience with all books: to check all of them: register, deposit,place bet, check grading times, withdrawal, and repeat it every month at least once)

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March 21, 2015, 12:09:31 AM
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I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Do you know how many bets each site is taking?


i can calculate it.   But as i see you like anonibet and you placed some bet there. So what if you register to all rated books and try to place some bet (with the lowest allowed stake) and check it by yourself,  hm ?    If i were a  bookmakers rating topic  administrator then probably this would be my first experience with all books: to check all of them: register, deposit,place bet, check grading times, withdrawal, and repeat it every month at least once)


I do all that with every book except ticket count since that can be inaccurate.

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March 21, 2015, 01:01:06 AM
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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC


I've used that for a long time. It's also been previously posted in this thread.



You have favorite books as i see , if something positive/good on your favorite books (anonibet) you always highlight it, but if you found something bad on other books then you highlight only the negative things (directbet)

Check the multiple payout toolip and you will see that you cant place the same amount bet, but only partial amount  
Use only normal leagues ( not NBA, champions league soccer and other top leagues)  
A professional gambler bet on value bets not top league markets    (so top league markets high multiple limits means nothing)

DirectBet was brought up by another poster yesterday. That's why it's been discussed the last 2 days. Prior to that DirectBet was almost never discussed.

A poster stated that he thinks BTCBook is the only BTC book with race to. I stated that Anoniobet has that. You stated that you couldn't keep popping a bet until recently. That's always been available. When there were complaints against Anonibet, they were taken off the rating's guide. That was recently.

I try to stay on topic of the book being discussed along with presenting new information.

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Use only normal leagues ( not NBA, champions league soccer and other top leagues)   
A professional gambler bet on value bets not top league markets    (so top league markets high multiple limits means nothing)


Players that earn the most money aren't doing it by picking off props and small markets. Most people that bet here are betting top leagues.

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I'd guess that I read each books thread 3 or 4 times a week. If there's some type of problem, I'll read it daily. Guys like gogo are in a lot of book's threads. His assessments are really good.

The two books we highly disagree with are Anonibet and DirectBet. DirectBet has maintenance, DDoS and odds provider problems all the time. I'd say more than all the other books put together.

With Anonibet I can understand since he looks at it as a US market book. I try to look at it as both an American and European book.
My opinions are far from perfect. Each player also likes different things.

You like immediate grading and payouts. I don't see that being as important as other factors. We all would rate books differently.

"Guys like gogo are in a lot of book's threads. His assessments are really good.

The two books we highly disagree with are Anonibet and DirectBet...

With Anonibet I can understand since he looks at it as a US market book. I try to look at it as both an American and European book."


All other important Anonibet issues aside, I was disappointed with their offerings both USA and non-USA.

I complained about them not having overnites for some major USA sports.

But as sbrzol points out, they are missing many markets. This includes non-USA.

I've mentioned in the past that they will have moneylines for some Euro/world sports but not spreads (Asian handicaps), although all other books offering those sports will have both.

And as sbrzol points out, I've found their limits to be low.
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I'd guess that I read each books thread 3 or 4 times a week. If there's some type of problem, I'll read it daily. Guys like gogo are in a lot of book's threads. His assessments are really good.

The two books we highly disagree with are Anonibet and DirectBet. DirectBet has maintenance, DDoS and odds provider problems all the time. I'd say more than all the other books put together.

With Anonibet I can understand since he looks at it as a US market book. I try to look at it as both an American and European book.
My opinions are far from perfect. Each player also likes different things.

You like immediate grading and payouts. I don't see that being as important as other factors. We all would rate books differently.

"Guys like gogo are in a lot of book's threads. His assessments are really good.

The two books we highly disagree with are Anonibet and DirectBet...

With Anonibet I can understand since he looks at it as a US market book. I try to look at it as both an American and European book."


All other important Anonibet issues aside, I was disappointed with their offerings both USA and non-USA.

I complained about them not having overnites for some major USA sports.

But as sbrzol points out, they are missing many markets. This includes non-USA.

I've mentioned in the past that they will have moneylines for some Euro/world sports but not spreads (Asian handicaps), although all other books offering those sports will have both.

And as sbrzol points out, I've found their limits to be low.


It's good that you and sbrzol post your opinions. The more information, the better. We need more contributing.

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March 21, 2015, 10:22:34 AM
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Is that only for me that betvip,betcoinsports and cloudbet site so slow  ?   In the same time 3 bitcoin books ? What a coincidence ?  Shocked
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Is that only for me that betvip,betcoinsports and cloudbet site so slow  ?   In the same time 3 bitcoin books ? What a coincidence ?  Shocked

Where are you connecting from? Could you email us some details? Our services are all healthy and operating as normal.

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Go to Hell betkurus. Dont cheat people. We know You in Turkish betting Forum at Bahisklavuz.com.You accept his money how held.Also You told him that you never get your money back.Turkish Costumers know how you are crook.I just want to say you fuck off.You are not allow to  provide Turkish players who resident in Turkey cause of Turkish Online Gambling Laws. But your %90 costumers from Turkey..Also you never informed him before making deposit about which countries restricted.I know this from turkish betting forum.You provide there support thread and people decided about your scamming.




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