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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus  (Read 257861 times)
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March 19, 2015, 11:26:20 PM
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Instead of insults, let's stick to the facts. Please list all the advantages that DirectBet has over other books.

The downtime isn't recent. It's an ongoing problem.

IMO, the only advantage directbet has is live betting. I haven't had any problems with downtime or getting paid from directbet in the past but their odds are TERRIBLE compared to nitro. I got bored of sports betting and to busy with other things so haven't been to directbet much in the past few months so can't comment on recent downtime and payouts.

Directbet also appear to have a bunch of shills, not sure if they're getting paid with free bets or what. Either shills or people who haven't bet anywhere else so wouldn't know how bad their odds are. Include them in a poll and watch those shills vote them to the top  Cheesy I remember seeing a poll where they beat primedice and a couple of other sites combined. Which is pretty hard to believe considering primedice alone has a good amount of supporters who are more active on this forum and their chat.
I agree with most of what you stated. DirectBet does make things entertaining with the shills.

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March 20, 2015, 01:10:50 AM
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Part of the reason for so much downtime at DirectBet is lack of man power. If another site goes down, they have multiple programmers to fix the problem. Most of the other sites have experienced gamblers as part of their team. DirectBet is still learning on the job.

I seriously hope the best for DirectBet but as stated in a previous post, they are an amateur operation. They aren't close to the quality of the other books.


"I seriously hope the best for DirectBet..."
Good one.


I or anyone else could compile a similar list of complaints for every other book here, although it would be most difficult to do so for Nitrogen.

Every other book has had just as many if not more complaints re: being offline; withdrawal problems/amount of time to receive withdrawal; etc.
Such a list would be easy to compile for anonibet.

No btc book should be manual withdrawals, and there should never be a daily period of 8 hours or more where one cannot receive a withdrawal.

I'm not going to waste time rehashing all of this, but Grumpster is 100% correct and anyone with at least a room temperature IQ who has been following all of this realizes that he's 100% correct.

Grumpster has "Warning: Trade with extreme caution! " under his name. He has about as much credibility as the directbet shills that ruin just about every gambling thread on this forum.

Maybe Peep is petty about it, but Directbet is just as petty. You can tell Peep doesnt intentionally derail threads like directbet did with the "user rated" thread.
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March 20, 2015, 01:20:20 AM
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And directbet has to be no deposit because no one is going to trust a site that looks like a 14 year old designed it in 1998. Plus their odds are horrible. Throw in the fact that they fucking waste my time when I'm trying to find real information on this scam filled site with all the shills directbet pays. I hope Directbet is permanently banned from this thread forever. Any other decent forum would have banned directbet long ago for spamming.

Anonibet sucks too. Peep should downgrade them.
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March 20, 2015, 08:46:55 AM
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I deposited 1.4 bitcoin on anonibet 2 weeks ago, placed 4 player proposition wagers at max bet (.5 bitcoin), won 2, lost 2, then last week, my max bet was lowered to .1 bitcoin, so I tried to cashout my 1.3 bitcoins and it was saying invalid pin code, so after a quick email response(they are very quick), they said I had to enter my pin code(which I never even setup in the first place) in order to cashout, so after another email, they reply: The pin code setting is a feature that was installed in order  protect customers account therefore it will take at least 72 hours for the pincode to be disabled etc..., so after 120 hours go by with no response, I try to log onto my acccount and it won't let me login saying: "sorry, your ip location seems to be from a country with legal restrictions on gambling...etc", now they're telling me to use a VPN service? so, last night, I had my friend(who lives .5 miles from me w/ same zip code) open an account, and he had no problems with his IP, and he doesnt use VPN, so this login restriction thing seems bs...
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March 20, 2015, 12:08:37 PM
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I deposited 1.4 bitcoin on anonibet 2 weeks ago, placed 4 player proposition wagers at max bet (.5 bitcoin), won 2, lost 2, then last week, my max bet was lowered to .1 bitcoin, so I tried to cashout my 1.3 bitcoins and it was saying invalid pin code, so after a quick email response(they are very quick), they said I had to enter my pin code(which I never even setup in the first place) in order to cashout, so after another email, they reply: The pin code setting is a feature that was installed in order  protect customers account therefore it will take at least 72 hours for the pincode to be disabled etc..., so after 120 hours go by with no response, I try to log onto my acccount and it won't let me login saying: "sorry, your ip location seems to be from a country with legal restrictions on gambling...etc", now they're telling me to use a VPN service? so, last night, I had my friend(who lives .5 miles from me w/ same zip code) open an account, and he had no problems with his IP, and he doesnt use VPN, so this login restriction thing seems bs...
When you talk to your friend again have him type in http://www.whatismyip.com/ or http://whatismyipaddress.com/. It will show his location. It would be interesting to see the location of the corresponding IP.

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March 20, 2015, 12:20:17 PM
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The last 24 hours at DirectBet


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why is it that everytime I try to bet on your site..! It goes down on maintenance n Im not able to bet.! #totallydisappointed

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it could be just a coincidence, although in this week , directbet has actually alot of downtime that cause the customer to be inconvenient, but the fact that you always cant bet is a coincidence that you better when the site is on maintenance

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Betting was suspended for a few minutes while we upgraded our automated betting system.

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directbet can you please have all odds 12 hours before your games so we can bet on games we want,i cant bet on games i want because there are a lot of games that i can pick in that game,really anoyed with it!!

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Please sir reply to my PM , help me last time , i wont ask for help from next time, you are a great admin please help me

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I agree as well,people who want my bets need the odds for my picks,and i currently cant give my picks because i dont have any odds on those bets,and i always see bets couple of hours before those matches,but i need them for example 12 hours earlier,for example i need the odds for nba matches that are tonight so i can post those picks

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Who is the Direct Bet's odds provider? If the odds for a particular event aren't available it's likely the odds providers haven't released them for the general public yet?

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Germany budes league betting market 2 is not available why ??

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Our data providers are currently experiencing an outage and as a result most sport bets are not available.

We will update you later as soon as this is resolved. Please accept our apologies


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March 20, 2015, 02:54:45 PM
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I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.
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March 20, 2015, 04:28:29 PM
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New to BCT  betkurus.com NR

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March 20, 2015, 04:32:23 PM
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I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Do you know how many bets each site is taking?

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March 20, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
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You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Well those numbers can be manipulated by the book though. Smaller or scam books could do this to make it appear they have several bets coming in when in reality they're not.

Peeps: you have anymore info on btcbook.eu - They had problems before with withdrawals but eventually paid out and there haven't been many complaints in their thread since. Odds are decent and they sometimes offer asian totals and handicaps for soccer, something I've been looking for awhile.

I also like their new NCAA and NBA props:
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-ncaa-basketball-props-betting
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-nba-basketball-props-betting

Race to 20 and above, first team to score and those type of props. Have seen those before at fiat books but never a btc book.

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March 20, 2015, 07:54:23 PM
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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?
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March 20, 2015, 08:07:56 PM
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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC

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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC


I've used that for a long time. It's also been previously posted in this thread.

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You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Well those numbers can be manipulated by the book though. Smaller or scam books could do this to make it appear they have several bets coming in when in reality they're not.

Peeps: you have anymore info on btcbook.eu - They had problems before with withdrawals but eventually paid out and there haven't been many complaints in their thread since. Odds are decent and they sometimes offer asian totals and handicaps for soccer, something I've been looking for awhile.

I also like their new NCAA and NBA props:
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-ncaa-basketball-props-betting
https://btcbook.eu/bitcoin/sports-betting/sportsbook/bitcoin-nba-basketball-props-betting

Race to 20 and above, first team to score and those type of props. Have seen those before at fiat books but never a btc book.


I'm with you in liking the lines at BTCBook. There haven't been any recent complaints. They keep adding markets. The race to is something that can be found at Anonibet during their live betting.

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March 20, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
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Now that BTCBook is clean again, BTCBook raised from "F" to "D"

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March 20, 2015, 11:54:14 PM
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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC


I've used that for a long time. It's also been previously posted in this thread.



You have favorite books as i see , if something positive/good on your favorite books (anonibet) you always highlight it, but if you found something bad on other books then you highlight only the negative things (directbet)

Check the multiple payout toolip and you will see that you cant place the same amount bet, but only partial amount  
Use only normal leagues ( not NBA, champions league soccer and other top leagues)  
A professional gambler bet on value bets not top league markets    (so top league markets high multiple limits means nothing)
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March 21, 2015, 12:01:16 AM
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I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Do you know how many bets each site is taking?


i can calculate it.   But as i see you like anonibet and you placed some bet there. So what if you register to all rated books and try to place some bet (with the lowest allowed stake) and check it by yourself,  hm ?    If i were a  bookmakers rating topic  administrator then probably this would be my first experience with all books: to check all of them: register, deposit,place bet, check grading times, withdrawal, and repeat it every month at least once)

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March 21, 2015, 12:09:31 AM
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I have no problem with Directbet
but betvip (deposit arrived only 10 hours, withdrawal took more than a half day , wrong +/- sign handicap display)  
betcoinsports (this week:  bets graded after half day, could not bet more than 1-4 hours: always error; withdrawal took more than 24 hours,  i got it only after contact support)
jetwin  (limit your account very fast, a lot of arbs )
anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )
webetcoins ( bets never graded, no answer , no withdrawal)

I can only suggest nitrogentsports, cloudbet and directbet (they have fix limit and instant withdrawal)
Instant withdrawal is a key.
Do not deposit too many btc to those bookmakers that have no instant withdrawal. (within 10 minutes)

You can calculate the average daily number of the placed bets on most of these sites, just place 2 bets (this Friday and next Friday) and betids will show how many bets were placed. ( average daily =  (NextFridayBetID - ThisFridayBetID) /7  )

You cant take those sites seriously that have only 1-100 bets daily.  (and in business more than half a year)
If only 1-3 professional gambler or arber register to such a site , bookie will run out of BTC, it is only a matter of time, but it wont happen because bookie will disappear (or limit every winning user account) instead of  being insolvent.

Do you know how many bets each site is taking?


i can calculate it.   But as i see you like anonibet and you placed some bet there. So what if you register to all rated books and try to place some bet (with the lowest allowed stake) and check it by yourself,  hm ?    If i were a  bookmakers rating topic  administrator then probably this would be my first experience with all books: to check all of them: register, deposit,place bet, check grading times, withdrawal, and repeat it every month at least once)


I do all that with every book except ticket count since that can be inaccurate.

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sbrzol - "anonibet  (low limit , max winning 0.5 BTC  , no tennis handicap and a lot of markets missing )"

"max winning 0.5 BTC"

You're stating that no bet there can be for a win amount greater than 0.5 BTC?


for example handball total/handicap    
tennis total : Jankovic, Jelena - Lisicki, Sabine  :  2 BTC  (max winning limit)  (cloudbet limit is about 1.5-2 and this is not winning limit, nitrogensports even more)
basketball total/handicap:   1 BTC   (on nba it is higher)

handicap and total odds (on all sports)  so low (or shifted to the worse direction ) that perhaps all other bookies offer better lines than anonibet

Anonibet claim that you can place the same bet multiple  times, they shows multiple payout limit too, this can be a new feature, i have never seen it earlier.
Earlier when i tried place multiple bets on the same event it was never successful.

of course you can find higher limit , but for me the highest winning limit was about 2 BTC


I've used that for a long time. It's also been previously posted in this thread.



You have favorite books as i see , if something positive/good on your favorite books (anonibet) you always highlight it, but if you found something bad on other books then you highlight only the negative things (directbet)

Check the multiple payout toolip and you will see that you cant place the same amount bet, but only partial amount  
Use only normal leagues ( not NBA, champions league soccer and other top leagues)  
A professional gambler bet on value bets not top league markets    (so top league markets high multiple limits means nothing)

DirectBet was brought up by another poster yesterday. That's why it's been discussed the last 2 days. Prior to that DirectBet was almost never discussed.

A poster stated that he thinks BTCBook is the only BTC book with race to. I stated that Anoniobet has that. You stated that you couldn't keep popping a bet until recently. That's always been available. When there were complaints against Anonibet, they were taken off the rating's guide. That was recently.

I try to stay on topic of the book being discussed along with presenting new information.

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