The question is, if i preferred not to fund the net would you extend the same respect to me that i extended to you by not using violence to try to prevent you from funding it and not use violence against me to try to force me to pay for the net? (I would if it were empirically demonstrated to be truly effective and well tuned like you say, but lets say i wouldn’t just for the sake of the argument). For first, I am not sure I understood your sentence, so please correct me if I am wrong. If you don't want to fund the net, no problem. You're out of the equation. You don't want to participate, then if you fall down, I won't help you, I let you die in the street if that happens (it would require people to know what to answer to their son asking 'dad, why he is dying and no one does a thing?' but that should be easy). That's a contract, you refused it (because you gambled you would not need it of for whatever reason). No problem here. So, yes, I would respect and respectfully let you die  I have to say I have a problem with "society should protect people even against themselves" ( common interventionists trope). I consider society should protect people against lack of sufficient information to make an informed decision. But once it is done, its everyone's business. Na than you arnt a leftie in my opinion. We just got all confused with our words. I totally support your position. Though i will say what you described can hardly be called a government  |
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Capitalist anarchist, libertarian and minarchist have a clear moral border between what is legit for a government to do and what is bad. Leftist don't have this, everything is good if it serve the "public interest" (something that don't even exist...), so nothing prevent them to push to radical collectivism like in Cuba.
Na. Some capitalist anarchists like myself are consiquentialists. In theory we would be willing to support taxation if it lead to the right consequences. Some people would argue that we are not libertarians, but I think we are. Then you might as well start support child rape, if that somehow was to lead to the right consequences. I find the very idea appalling and immoral. I totally do. If a metior were coming towards the planet and were about to wipe out all life on the planet and some aliens stopped by and said "well save your planet from destruction but only if you allow someone to rape a child". Heck yes i would support child rape. Consequences matter man. Notice this is not at all the same thing as just saying child rape is fine. Obviously its a terrible thing. I have my moral objections to it and i do have a sense or morality and i do think that morality matters. But so do consiquences. Now obviously thats an extreme example but its an important analogy. A less ridiculous form of the same argument is that if the outcome of abolishing the state were to actually create what statists mean when they use the word anarchy, than i would not be in favor of that simply because taxation is theft and theft is immoral. I would rather live with a little bit of immoral theft by the government than mad max thunderdome. Of course lefties are wrong and that would not be the consequences of abolishing government. Thank god. I know what choice i would make if forced to, but i sure am glad i dont have to make that choice. |
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So maybe you can help me understand something. Why are lefties involved in a movement whos purpose, not by any mans imposition, but by its own nature, is to create a free market. I mean I welcome you guys. I welcome everyone. But i just dont understand why you guys would want to be involved in this. Wouldn't you rather support the money that the state uses to fund its self? You talk about how much you love government schools. You know those are mostly paid for by stealing the purchasing power of the money that they force everyone to use right? Why dont you use that money if you love government run schools so much. Now just to be clear, its not rhetorical, i dont want you to use that money, i personally want you to use crypto, its just a legit question that sounds rhetorical even though it isn't. First, I would welcome a state to convert its currency into a cryptocurrency. Cryptodollars? Why not! Second, my vision of interventionnism (or leftism, if you prefer) is: a safety net for everyone at a cost of a contribution. A finely-tuned redistribution that doesn't prevent people to reach a high level of wealth, but prevent people to fall below the poverty level. I believe in offer and demand (and not only for economy, also in biology or psychology, hence religions). But I also believe in safety net. I completely accept this is a Judeo-Christian thing at heart (caritas, justice) and I won't say it is rational (although there is some rationality in defending it, watch Nick Hanauer and Richard Wilkinson). It is my ideal of life, that people who fall won't die. That all sounds great. I think it would be wonderful if societies had a safety net for those who, through no fault of their own, fall through the cracks. It happens. Sometimes people who don't deserve it at all get delt a bad hand. I totally support your right to do your part to provide such a safety net. I would never dream of trying to stop you from doing that. And i certainly would never dream of using violence against you to stop you from doing that. The question is, if i preferred not to fund the net would you extend the same respect to me that i extended to you by not using violence to try to prevent you from funding it, and not use violence against me to try to force me to fund it? (I would if it were empirically demonstrated to be truly effective and well tuned like you say, but lets say i wouldn’t just for the sake of the argument). |
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Capitalist anarchist, libertarian and minarchist have a clear moral border between what is legit for a government to do and what is bad. Leftist don't have this, everything is good if it serve the "public interest" (something that don't even exist...), so nothing prevent them to push to radical collectivism like in Cuba.
Na. Some capitalist anarchists like myself are consiquentialists. In theory we would be willing to support taxation if it lead to the right consequences. Some people would argue that we are not libertarians, but I think we are. |
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So maybe you can help me understand something. Why are lefties involved in a movement whos purpose, not by any mans imposition, but by its own nature, is to create a free market. I mean I welcome you guys. I welcome everyone. But i just dont understand why you guys would want to be involved in this. Wouldn't you rather support the money that the state uses to fund its self? You talk about how much you love government schools. You know those are mostly paid for by stealing the purchasing power of the money that they force everyone to use right? Why dont you use that money if you love government run schools so much. Now just to be clear, its not rhetorical, i dont want you to use that money, i personally want you to use crypto, its just a legit question that sounds rhetorical even though it isn't.
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Must... control... self... Must... not... go... on... off... topic... rant... So how about monero lately. Glad to see the price starting to rise. Still so much more to go  |
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I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff.  To be honest, there is no way those things would happen without a government. Companies are only involved in things in which they can reap sustainable profit. That's why there are so few private schools compared to public(government owned) schools. If we left it up to companies and our fellow brethen to do things like build roads, builds schools, build hosptials etc, then nothing would get done because in our capitalistic society(frankly any type of society as well), people are motivated by Money and greed, with all companies trying to gain the highest amount of profit at the cost of others( look at wal-mart outsourcing jobs to sweatjobs in china, same with apple etc etc) That's why we need a government to do the things that no one else will, and I'm very thankful for having one that does so.(the u.s gov) This is so sad. The level of brainwashing the government puts people through to get them to believe this nonsense is terrifying. I'm not going to get into debunking this here though, this is not the place for it. If you want make a thread and invite me to it. |
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I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff. |
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I'll see your black raven and raise you 2.  |
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She must have been a really decent woman considering she didn't snap at the opportunity to take you for all you own and half of all you will ever own in the future. Sorry to hear.
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Sorry if this sounds mean but I don't think you understand how bitcoin works. I can give you some great links if you like that will help you understand on a more technical level.
P.S. Are you spam bot? Lol. No I'm not a spam bot. I have >4200 posts. I never would have lasted that long spamming. |
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The Trezor calculates the change address so it knows it is correct so it does not need to bother you to veryify something that it knows is correct and cannot be faked, since everything happens inside the Trezor.
Stop It can be calculated based by blockchain. Trezor doesn't know the blockchain. So it cannot calculate it. Only computer with opened site MyTrezor.com can help because only computer knows which addresses are not used. Sorry if this sounds mean but I don't think you understand how bitcoin works. I can give you some great links if you like that will help you understand on a more technical level. |
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I would love to buy one but 119 bucks? Just waaaay to expensive for the newbies. If you have less than $1000 in BTC then this product may not be for you. But for someone who has thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, etc. then this is a great product. I love this little thing. I have 5 of them and will be ordering a couple more for Christmas gifts for people I know that have BTC holdings. It is the second best thing I have ever purchased with BTC, the best one being a case of Girl Scout thin mint cookies. I understand that if you got multiple thousands of BTC then maybe 119 bucks isn´t expensive but for us with less then 2 it´s quite alot  We need security too You'll wish you had spent part of that 2 if all of it gets stolen . I think it all depends how well you know security. Is your system secure? Do you know how to make it secure? If the answers to these questions is anything other than a confident yes, you may want to consider spending a fraction of that 2 bitcoins on making sure that you dont lose the rest of it. |
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Agree we need pics
too much identifying info already. ZzZzZz. Not such a good story without a picture of the painting. Still grats on your wall not being boring anymore. |
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i bought a delectable painting for 2000 xmr. No doubt the painting was very tasteful beautiful, but rather huge. i had to dedicate a whole wall. Pix please. |
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refusing to fix it, which is actually quite well documented on the forum.
This forum documents that they are refusing to talk to you, not refusing to fix it. And I told you many times that you never payed for the myTrezor web wallet service. I repeat, YOU PAID ZERO BTC/USD/CZK/whatever for the web wallet. It's free. What does your lawyer says about that? My lawyer says that you cannot be refunded for your device just because the free service from the same company does not work for you. Just ignore him. |
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What is the guarantee that myTREZOR.com will always be around for me to be abel to spend/receive bitcoins using the Trezor?
In 30 years, will that website still be around?
Presumably its all open source just incase right? Worst case scenario, If its gone in 30 years than just copy that source code to your own server and make your own mytrezor.com. |
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Why is payment only in Bitcoin?  You're kidding right? |
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If i'm remembering correctly, earlier you guys said that you didnt want to bring out a gui until you had solved the database stuff first because monero was not yet ready for the flood of users that would come with it. Now i see you guys talking about gui all the time and hardly ever about the database so im just wondering if something has changed. This is a big deal to me personally because I only have 2 gig's of ram. Im not sure if i even have access to my coins any more and if i do, not for long.
The database stuff will be done quite some time before a GUI is complete. Because we're cognisant of the amount of work involved in bring the GUI to fruition to the standards we expect, we have had no problem starting work on it sooner rather than later. By the time it's done all the other bits will be done;) thanks |
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