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2301  Other / Meta / Re: How can we take Bitcoin Talk back into the Bitcoin community? on: February 18, 2019, 03:36:36 AM
Bitcointalk was something that helped get Bitcoin off the ground and sparked adoption from near zero levels. While Bitcoin was very new, most people involved in Bitcoin (and the forum) largely valued their privacy/anonymity and had high levels of technical expertise. Companies had a fairly small customer base and as such did not need to communicate with customers as efficiently as possible.

Today, many Bitcoin (and crypto) users have much less technical expertise and value privacy less. Being that Facebook, Twitter and reddit are already used by many, newer Bitcoin users are likely to already have accounts on these platforms, and as such, to interact with others in regards to crypto. With bitcointalk not being very good to communicate with customers efficiently, companies will not push their customers onto bitcointalk to communicate, but rather to platforms such as FB, telegram and zendesk.

Having many people labeled as scammers by people who are not held accountable, and are labeled as scammers for arbitrary reasons, often unrelated to being a scammer is not helping anything.

If bitcointalk is going to grow, there will need to be better tools for companies to interact with customers. One solution might be to allow multiple people access a single PM inbox without having to share a single password. For example, "cryptostore" might have their customer send a PM with a problem, one employee might respond, and when the customer responds, a different employee could respond. This could be done by allowing multiple login credentials to access a single account, with different access levels (such as the ability to post, send PMs, and add/revoke access to either of these). The "mother" account could be a premium (paid) account and PM limits to these types of accounts could be lifted.
2302  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it time to make bitcointalk.org great again? on: February 18, 2019, 02:50:35 AM
We need to build a copper membership and make shitposters pay for it.
Perhaps buying a copper membership (or some other premium membership) should be a requirement to wear anything except for a very basic signature, and the same to participate in any of the bounty subs.

You could even say everyone will be walled off from wearing a signature unless they buy a copper membership.
2303  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos It's time to make DT blacklist. on: February 18, 2019, 02:44:55 AM
Every single person discussing there is untrustworthy and bearing  red trust on their profile. IMO its a combined group members who are doing this together.

[...]



Thread link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103988.0;all




I am not aware of any allegation that anyone in that thread has stolen money/property, or tried doing the same, nor am I aware of any of those people doing anything that might be consistent with a long con. Do you care to explain why you believe these people are untrustworthy?

looks like you are on the wrong side of this forum
you should think long and hard about your principles
My principles are just fine, thanks. You have repeatedly shown you don't understand how the trust system works, your misguided attempts to "overthrow" it would give literally thousands of scammers a clean trust rating to go out and scam again,
Perhaps you should review Lauda's sent trust and evaluate that statement again.

Most of his sent trust ratings are for SMAS blacklist (a potential moderation issue, not a trust issue), someone potentially having a lot of alts, sometimes in signature campaigns (not reasonably a "scammer" by any reasonable definition), criticizing him (not in any way a scammer), breaking forum rules (a moderation issue, not a trust issue), and disagreeing with him (not in any way a scammer).
2304  Economy / Services / Re: Earn BTC even if you have RED TRUST on: February 17, 2019, 08:37:13 AM
You have nothing to lose here my friend, anyway you have a red trust already in this forum, so why not try this, i wont ask anything from you especially a payment and also no referrals here.

p.s. those who dont have a red trust can participate and earn btc too

just pm in me telegram account @rotation.

reminder: you need to have an account from Member to legendary

adios
sounds interesting
These people are alts.

Also this is very likely a scam.
2305  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think JP Morgan is an example for current weak regulation? on: February 15, 2019, 07:08:12 PM
Chase is actually using Blockchain technology to implement a stable coin such as tether and the Gemini Dollar. I don’t believe they are even using etherum as most other stablecoins do.

Diamond’s comments were in relation to Bitcoin specifically, and not crypto nor Blockchain technology.


It is quite clear the trick Jamie Dimon use to do, shouting "Bitcoin Fraud", create fear among some investors and resulting in a drop of a price.
Many recent resources claim that it was done for purchasing Bitcoins. More than that, all JP Morgan's employees couldn't buy Bitcoins for themselves as the company made it forbidden for them.

And now? They are launching a cryptocurrency.

In my opinion, the sixth largest bank in the world, that value by more than 2.5 trillion dollars cannot act like this, as it is truly unethical.
Now don't get me wrong, there is NOTHING illegal in their actions, but isn't it a hole in the current regulatory system?

this bank will be history, these banks are supposed to serve american enterpreneuers, and listen to their ideas, not print money and live on the back of the economy in the cities they are in.
Im not sure why you think this.

Banks, like all other corporations, exist to provide the most long term value to their shareholders. They can listen to their customers, however if they do, they will do so for business reasons whose purpose is to increase the long term value of their business.
2306  Other / Meta / Re: Analysis - Reciprocal trust, distrust and asymmetries on: February 15, 2019, 01:46:56 PM
Interesting data.

I would be curious to see any patterns of trust circles in which a group of people all trust each other.
2307  Economy / Reputation / Re: An Apology Letter on: February 14, 2019, 07:43:35 PM
Here is the signed message. Let me know if you guys have anymore questions

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is xinzark from Bitcointalk.org. Today is 12th Feb 2019
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Address: 1KBcdRxzPaC4XWkkJBFz4eNemhN64f6EbC
H4TihYyl1Fc++V2h+mwP7qMONHRFkdfkNb8jslOyBtKCOzGVLMm4kLq3AUrQFUJkBwnTHGoICfF8UJsvSbZVZu0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Thanks for the confirmation with your signed message that you are a Alt of OldScammer- GotaPauj



kishann889 is already connected with xinzark (Check Timelord2067's feedback on xinzark's profile)

My account at Betchain : kishangupta280@gmail.com

Please credit the bonus fast

I have also pmed You

(Archive: http://archive.fo/5sEo9#selection-5531.0-5531.24)


same email-id was used by coolcoin:


Contact me here : Kishangupta280@gmail.com

now i will not make new posts
i will edit the previous one
i don't want to spam this forum

(Archive: http://archive.fo/A3dOj#selection-1667.1-1667.24)


Now coolcoin posts this:

I found a way to profit but don't have enough btc to test it.
I need 0.02 btc. I will pay in November 29 with 8 percent interest rate.

Bitcoin Address: 14REnxeLBk4WQg3Dj8FaDYrDCBQ3axuhsV


(Archive: http://archive.fo/EhVaV#selection-4119.17-4119.51)


14REnxeLBk4WQg3Dj8FaDYrDCBQ3axuhsV is a part of wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/036b2897138b128b/addresses

Code:
address	balance	incoming txs	last used in block
1ErAcU6sMtEwqB1NBdAxPEWvEfTzKHrenK 0.         10 343532
14REnxeLBk4WQg3Dj8FaDYrDCBQ3axuhsV 0.         7 340035
1LP5QBNy8zBwox8FtLKgiuDypKjUFpH3Kp 0.         5 334222
1Kbac8ThvsgDYMFxtkFWj2npjXxRbGyvvc 0.         2 342965
14R6dx11JtR7UQ1H1Nm5aQwKNv9X2Z5VPj 0.         2 333079
12kBs4hNUXz4gRFiet2tjjCpbQiN7A5bEp 0.         2 332839
18qEr3CYgEzW6vKJFXX6CeNwKQyTn7S3Nc 0.         2 332839
1PSHYHr8u4HZ4ixA4ZThxFsSbaTysfaBe5 0.         2 332839
16TmWy4vgosU8tpawJUTQYAeqy8m3bYxJL 0.         1 343657
12ndFiVSDANZ4dBeuDX8gPEc4N5gzE2Djw 0.         1 342965
12sygecGNvVwXCUpvqKEc148Ehb3BsBmQu 0.         1 342965
14K8BDVsm5r8F9A6oiNAdSQbLyc9Edr1hF 0.         1 342965
18mFeVgve1SGWwZyVqXaJSqxwUChNKddzu 0.         1 342965
18wb4y8quhEQzSfEQig6s1qz6LB9dj3mgs 0.         1 342965
17GeUmqVSN7kr73SQUHd5Xd8GtgKMSfCJw 0.         1 340035
1J7ajUb6PL4VP7TgQU6CumxuQtDxpjXgQS 0.         1 340035
12osRXHNroJF2zvkgXZwkXx9jZzFh6Zkjo 0.         1 332839
19iLqtdC2azMz9xXUjGrhdsACzoK7YUdfv 0.         1 332839
1DZs1t5WyWuucU7KHEEFhAothRu9ppFU55 0.         1 332839
1LDLnXU62psG6cMrLrTkNSAx4oxk36j8vj 0.         1 332839
1LreREdDZcKxvK6UiL5nhQtts9oaJaBt2r 0.         1 332839
1NHLsiyq9eNJaW5J3JmXrqtEQ6cZCVbosW 0.         1 332839
1NiWWDYUoPS2D3rzf8rAa44C2Ew1iny1mF 0.         1 332839
139AHVyADJtsX6yfn4uwdA7BMEyCrG7x9E 0.         1 332835
14fGdvKMD3Bt2uYf9YNfjVeUwihyPaAGHo 0.         1 332835
19ippMxgGJw4hDPzxf8qSFHKcdT1fYSyTN 0.         1 332835
19sb3NrNTr39PmaSWKQSsNxD4KX69LQaro 0.         1 332835
19yqqsYrzAqMb6jmbFpE6j8ENQjsbzQ9Et 0.         1 332835
1DdKXyZns5QHz8oj54XcqZNyvYdXqHHVrM 0.         1 332835
1GHKmpvusGEkTXVvKnBYNi3QafJTsz4rXj 0.         1 332835
1Jx9p8BaAdpBsUtCeZidVipp3t4P9bjCFQ 0.         1 332835
1KMioJrfpUZeR5uLyCiskCxv3dMFsKdSV2 0.         1 332835
1MCCGx6tZjxAYdWN7nXrUP5KDqESVJJ7JM 0.         1 332835
1MpK6i3KptZw9BK9hgWAb8p247gE4Ar5Gm 0.         1 332835
1NPQBNA4uefm5Ztji9qHZukFLz5nt1L7Bm 0.         1 332835
1PobV2zehfDH25puXtPqqUfvbLPgYYJTmg 0.         1 332835
13sL8WuxyNi6M9APGecU31p1sjFSFFr7S3 0.         1 331328
1EhA2SJpc1gZTZmGRZQtmmaffPSjuzraq2 0.         1 331328
1ADTNgjxHd7SxNzgdaz8M8i492VngyWMGT 0.         1 330788

out of which 1ErAcU6sMtEwqB1NBdAxPEWvEfTzKHrenK was posted by iram66680 who is Alt of GotaPauj (Operator of bitcoinblackfriday.info-Check feedbacks) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17324936#msg17324936

Loan Amount : 0.035 btc
Reason          : I'm paying a course in udemy.com
BTC Address  : 1ErAcU6sMtEwqB1NBdAxPEWvEfTzKHrenK
Term Length   : 8

(Archive: http://archive.fo/8N36i#selection-2989.15-2989.49)


coolcoin is connected to this ring of 31 accounts here (keeping the 2 accounts aside that is connected to xinzark) as posted in this investigation here (reported by Lutpin & kingaltcoins):  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg14005963#msg14005963



Now lets what as a constructive user you did here: Probably connected few accounts and warned others?

And lets weigh the other side:

1) Accounts Buyer/Seller. It wasn't a problem at that time but you were using them to scam and default loans.  And somehow I think that you were after getting your accounts negged. Check iram66680 and magemist for instance.
2) Defaulted many loans check iram66680, cyrusb(I though am unsure about cyrusb due to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1041009.msg11235253#msg11235253) . My best guess you were taking loans to gamble and defaulted when you were unable to pay. Obviously it didn't hurt you at all since you had already a good no. of accounts back then. So it was easy to move over to next account wasn't it?
3) Operator of scam site: GotaPauj. Check trust page of the profile.
4) Used alt accounts to abuse giveaways on a mass level: If you check the report by Lutpin you will see that he abused a giveaway by 28 times!!


Now I wonder and want to ask if is it something that community should forgive because he scammed in past? It was no mistake that he chose to default loans,scam users and abuse giveaways.


If memory serves me correctly, some of the accounts associated with bitcoin Black Friday were purchased accounts.

Presumably, the OP purchased his account from someone who also sold the bitcoin Black Friday accounts to those scammers.

Obviously if he was actually part of that scam, he shouldn’t be forgiven.
2308  Other / Meta / Re: Nigeria Local Board: Theymos take Note on: February 14, 2019, 03:02:03 PM
According to Wikipedia, English is the primarily spoken language in Nigeria, however there are over 500 other languages spoken in Nigeria.

As hilariousandco pointed out, the local subs are primarily a means for people to speak their language, and if you speak English, you can post in the main boards.

What would having a "Nigerian" local thread add to your community? How many people would you say would participate in a Nigeria local thread, and how many people from Nigeria are around here? If possible, provide some kind of evidence to back up your answers to my last question. 
With your research 500 other languages are spoken in Nigeria because Nigeria is a welcoming country and Nigeria is the gaint of Africa. But, aside of English pidgin is the next common language spoken in Nigeria.
Nigeria local thread can add to this community have forgotten the statement made by the Binance boss that Africa will be the  future of crypto.
How many people do you think would participate in such a thread?
2309  Other / Meta / Re: Nigeria Local Board: Theymos take Note on: February 14, 2019, 07:02:30 AM
According to Wikipedia, English is the primarily spoken language in Nigeria, however there are over 500 other languages spoken in Nigeria.

As hilariousandco pointed out, the local subs are primarily a means for people to speak their language, and if you speak English, you can post in the main boards.

What would having a "Nigerian" local thread add to your community? How many people would you say would participate in a Nigeria local thread, and how many people from Nigeria are around here? If possible, provide some kind of evidence to back up your answers to my last question. 
2310  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bezos allegedly extorted w/Dick pics by Nat'l enquirer on: February 14, 2019, 05:09:43 AM
CNN is reporting the source of the existence of the relationship between Bezos and his mistress is the mistress' brother.

If this is true, based on the fact that the Enquirer normally publishes this type of stories of high profile people, the theory that the reporting was politically motivated is more or less extinguished IMO. This should also throw cold water on the theory that a "government" hacked Bezos' phone to expose his affair.

In theory, the source for the sexting pics may be different, but I would not count on this.
2311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can we think that Bitcoin can help governments that are in a boycott? on: February 14, 2019, 04:56:43 AM
Let's use Venezuala as an example, but there are others past, present, and future.

The elected government of Venezuela has certain needs for the people of the country.
The government of Venezuela was not actually elected -- their "elections" were a sham. Also, the government has actually blockaded highways and bridges into the country to stop humanitarian aid from entering into the country -- likely to strengthen the hold on its citizens.


I suggest the following design:

  • Accrual of claims on reserve assets (oil, gold) based on the number of 'circulations' of a particular coin.  That is the metric which defines the value to the people of Venezuela.  The 'sanctions-busting' numeric.
People who were to buy this coin would need to trust the government to honor these claims. The government has its military that can (and has) seize these assets from private citizens who own property within the country.



The flow would be something like this:

  • sanctions-buster gets guns, intelligence, food, penicillin, whatever into the country.  Get's paid in Boliv-coin issued by the trusted authority.
  • sanctions-buster exchanges Boliv-coin on the open market for other crypto or whatever.
Your "sanctions-buster" would likely have sanctions imposed onto themselves for helping the government of Venezuela evade sanctions. They may even be prosecuted (see the CFO of Huawei)
  • Boliv-coin speculator buys from sanction-buster (or his broker) and redeems Boliv-coin as a claim on future reserve assets.
Those who buy from the "sanctions-buster" may also have sanctions imposed onto themselves.


What you are describing is little different than money laundering with the additional risk of a sanctions imposed government not honoring their obligations.[/list]
2312  Other / Meta / Re: [Bug forum?] Name: Giratina, Merit: -1926 on: February 14, 2019, 02:03:57 AM
There doesn’t appear to be any policy in place removing merit.
Sure about that?
There is a higher standard for merit sources, however it is not unreasonable to put additional (retroactive) rules on merit sources because this merit effectively comes directly from theymos.
2313  Other / Meta / Re: This Is NOT A New Problem... A Walk Down Memory Lane on: February 14, 2019, 01:50:25 AM
When I look at the Hierarchical view of the default trust network, I see that he is roughly in the middle of his trust list, that appears to otherwise be in roughly the order that people were added in.

That list is ordered by user ID, not added time.

I think the main problem is that the trust system has given members that haven't proven themselves responsible enough the ability to mark someone's account with negative trust, and essentially ruin the account.

Any inaccuracies will eventually be fixed. I'm not going to allow the default trust network to contain inaccurate ratings for long.
It seems as if theymos abandoned this policy fairly quickly and is long gone.

There should be guidelines for leaving trust if you are going to have your trust ratings show up by default. Granted there are the descriptions of each of the types of ratings, however some people seem to think they are no longer applicable, both because they have said so and because they give out ratings contrary to the descriptions.

I also agree with Wardrick above in that many are in DT without anything resembling a trade history. Many of these people are power hungry and won’t see any real repercussions because they never had a business prior to obtaining DT ‘power’ (that often has recently resulted in additional positive trust ratings).

There doesn’t seem to be any accountability for mistakes in regards to trust ratings anymore, this includes both the person leaving the ratings and their “sponsors”.

I personally think xx should bring back TC and let him have similar influence in the trust system as he did previously, that is if he wants to.

Anyone who leaves a negative rating for personal reasons and doesn’t even pretend it is for reasons related to someone’s trustworthiness (like Vod likes to do), should have no place in DT. Someone who is inaccurate even a small number of times should not be in DT until they can show they will no longer make mistakes.
2314  Other / Meta / Re: [Bug forum?] Name: Giratina, Merit: -1926 on: February 13, 2019, 10:14:39 PM
Just what we need, more back door shady ways to decimate people's accounts with zero public accountability. I am sure nothing bad will result from this...
This was a bug....and has been corrected. There doesn’t appear to be any policy in place removing merit.

That's a bug.

The merit number is a cached value derived from the merit ledger. I think that the number got out of sync and weird here due to a bug which existed for a short time last week. The number would've corrected itself the next time this user received any merit.
2315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can we think that Bitcoin can help governments that are in a boycott? on: February 13, 2019, 03:39:29 AM
If there are sanctions (boycotts) against a government, it is usually because they are doing really bad things.
2316  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green New Deal on: February 12, 2019, 08:21:50 PM
Congress should vote on AOCs version of the GND immediately so voters can see who supports this nonsense.
2317  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a violent person who should not be trusted on: February 12, 2019, 05:23:48 PM
You will have to talk to timelord about bumping the two year old thread. He was the one who bumped it.
I can confirm this.

May I suggest locking this thread? We get it: you don't like Vod, Vod doesn't like you. It's been years, it's okay for people on the internet not to like everyone.


That was eight hours before Timelord2067's post.
True, but editing doesn't bump it.

I believe Timelord's post was deleted as well, which may have prompted him to post again.
That makes sense and explains the bump right after the edit.
If anyone wants to add/post something, you can PM me and I’ll unlock it for you.
2318  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a violent person who should not be trusted on: February 12, 2019, 03:12:00 PM
This is exactly the kind of petty bickering I was talking about in the post I've quoted below. Bumping a post from two and a half years ago for the sole purpose of causing drama. This kind of nonsense is making bitcointalk worse for everyone.

1. Those who are trying to help keep a community clean from scammers at their level best will be facing a lot of retaliation.
We are speculating this is marlboroza's reason for self excluding from DT1, but if it is, then I can't blame him. In the grand scheme of things I'm still pretty new here, and I'm already totally bored with the amount of drama surrounding DT, the infighting, the retaliatory feedback, the PMs of begging/abuse, etc. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to have entire threads opened for the sole reason of bitching about you.

I, like most people I'm sure, joined this forum to read, learn and discuss bitcoin, not to get caught up in constant bickering.

You will have to talk to timelord about bumping the two year old thread. He was the one who bumped it.
2319  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: weenzee.com - 403% PROFIT FOR THE YEAR - Ponzi / HYIP - No team on: February 12, 2019, 06:31:30 AM
The lack of a team doesn't matter in this case and will only be a red herring.

It is the ponzi-like returns that make this a scam.
2320  Economy / Reputation / Re: @Timelord2067 on: February 12, 2019, 12:46:47 AM

Quickseller has quite an eloquent grasp of the English language. Thule speaks English as a second language and has quite a distinctive writing style.

First of all, I would like to thank you for noticing my elegance.

You are correct, I am not Thule. I do not use any alt accounts, and have not for quite some time now, except for one known alt very occasionally. I do however appear to owe quite a lot of people a lot of back rent, as it seems I am living in many people's heads.

When I was reading H8bussesNbicycles' thread, I was speculating he was intentionally using very poor english in order to hide his "main" account, which I assumed has decent reputation. Without knowing with certainty he is reputable, I cannot support him, and his specific methods of achieving his cause.

Timelord2067 seems to piece together a lot of irrelevant information and come to conclusions not based on logic. I would suggest to ignore his trust ratings, but it seems that many already disagree with that as he is on some trust lists.
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