The reality is bitcoin is NOT gold. it can't be used for anything other than currency. USD can inflate 100 times (against tangible real assets) but it doesn't mean 1 BTC will be worth 100 times of its current value.
no it means that 1 btc will be worth 150 times its current value  Judging by current price action, it's unlikely. I believe it's heavily overvalued now (until it's been widely adopted by the general public). there is still getting more users of the currency, which means: more demand. |
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The reality is bitcoin is NOT gold. it can't be used for anything other than currency. USD can inflate 100 times (against tangible real assets) but it doesn't mean 1 BTC will be worth 100 times of its current value.
no it means that 1 btc will be worth 150 times its current value |
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@OP If you want to run bitcoind from SSH extract bitcoin and cd into the bin folder and type /path/to/bitcoin/bin/bitcoind -<your_flags>&
If you want to run the client it's slightly different. You need to setup X11 forwarding and ssh into the machine. Then you can run the bitcoin software remotely. On the remote machine add the folloing lines to the bottom of /etc/ssh/ssh_config ForwardX11 yes
ForwardX11Trusted yes
AllowTcpForwarding yes
Restart ssh on the remote machine and your good to go. If your using a linux box to connect then Windows userscan grab putty and tick this .. <removed pic> If you want to start the client on the server's screen then use DISPLAY=:0 /path/to/bitcoin/bin/bitcoin
Here's it all setup and working <removed pic> Hope this helps  not to be an @$$ again. but we are not talking about starting bitcoind in X over ssh. bitcoind runs fine headless. |
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Kokjo you're quite an @$$. yes sometimes. i did only think that it was two noobs, who did not know what they where taking about. sorry for being an @$$. Let's think about this for a minute. He has a VPS. So he doesn't have local access to the machine. So, a teamviewer session would work like this. Mr VPS user logs into SSH into the VPS on his windws/linux desktop. He then allows you to have teamviewer access to his desktop which has the SSH shell. Several other people appeared to understand what he was talking about. And you're the nice person trying to help? Come on.
sorry i did not see that possibility, but sure i will do it. sure i will do the teamviewer thing, i what to help. and im quite capable of handling an linux server via ssh. |
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you people do know that we are talking about an rented headless linux server here, right?
which i will(if sgtspike whats it) get root access though ssh, right?
you cant teamview on this, sorry.
stupid windows users please go away and let us serious people work, or please read the thread before commenting.
@Maxim Gladkov: we are not talking about mining.
@Tasty, davidonpda: AFAIK, teamviewer cant be used on a headless linux server
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kokjo, I would love to allow you to do that, but how can I know that you won't install something malicious that could grant you access to the server down the road? you can't. but i will not do that, it would destroy my reputation. Would there be some way for me to verify that nothing like that is installed?
no not if you give root access, i could hide anything. i can do it if you like. but only if you thrust me, Nefario can vouch for me. |
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i think there is some kind of 160 blocks for confirmation time.
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See above - it is running Debian.
Those two commands don't come up with useful information. The first command seems to show some hardware information (amd64, x86_64, GNU/Linux, etc), and the second just says "No such file or directory".
may i get root access to it for an hour? i can install bitcoind, and fix all kind of unforeseen troubles(os upgrade, ...) |
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No idea what distro... is there a way to find out via SSH? This is a rented VPS, and I did not get information on what version of linux was installed on it.
it is likely to be debian or centos. try: uname -a
cat /etc/lsb_release
also bitcoind does not need xwindows. only bitcoin. the ssh -X is not needed |
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what kind of distro do you run? debian? centos 5? "./bitcoind: error while loading shared libraries: libgthread-2.0.so.0: cannot o$"
it looks like you need glibc2 |
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Awesome! It worked! I have 8 confirmations now. Thanks a lot. I donated some btc to you. thanks! im gald that i could help!  |
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just wait! you will be fine.
put the mac back online, and wait for comfirmations. the bitcoin client will rebroadcast unconfirmed transactions every 30min.
when it haves at least 1 comfirmation. put the windows computer online, and wait for it to downloading the blocks.
just wait, you will be fine.
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hmm. if we did that there would be a bottleneck. there would be a need to call getwork every 1/3 s. for every chip, right?
I load-tested my getwork optimization patches with a script that does 1,000 getwork queries. The script takes about 1/10th of a second. You need one work unit per 2^32 hashes. We can easily generate 10,000 work units a second without even doing any serious optimization. That would sustain 43THash/s on my lowly Core 2 Quad. you are talking: bitcoind <-> script , right? please tell me if im wrong. im talking about: script <-> FPGA, the bottleneck is here, i think. |
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One cycle per nonce, fully unrolled. So 100MHz = 100MHash/s. And in case it isn't clear, that is a full Bitcoin Hash; two passes of SHA-256 every clock cycle. Wow. That's quite impressive. Now we need to make an ASIC that runs at 1GHz with 12 fully-unrolled miners on it. Then we need to put four of them on a card. hmm. if we did that there would be a bottleneck. there would be a need to call getwork every 1/3 s. for every chip, right? |
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i could make a trojan to linux if i wanted to, no problem! (obfuscated python script, or precompiled 'miner')
why the hell use a possible-trojan os? (sorry if sounding overzealous)
You could, but it would be discovered almost immediately. maybe, but not if i was smart enough, and did include an secure autoupdate(covert communication channel) feature. 1. make obfuscated trojan with secure autoupdate. 2. let it be installed on many machines. 3. send malicious 'update', that sends the wallet to me, via the covert channel. 4. profit. very simple. Then what's your problem with windows, if the same method can be used on any other OS? only if you do something stupid(install closed source apps). and of course there are stupid users, that would do it. windows is possible trojan os, it already haves autoupdate feature. microsoft can push anything into a windows computer, and not being caught, they can push executable code directly into your computer. Linus Torvalds can't push anything into a linux computer, he can push it to the source tree, where anyone can read/verify his code. of course most distros also have autoupdate features, but they are open. yes they do push executable code into you computer, but you can always get the code yourself and compile it, and there is nearly always a reason along with the update, and explanation why its needed. there is also often a open debate about the code before it gets included in a update. open source is peer reviewed, and therefor secure. get the point? |
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i could make a trojan to linux if i wanted to, no problem! (obfuscated python script, or precompiled 'miner')
why the hell use a possible-trojan os? (sorry if sounding overzealous)
You could, but it would be discovered almost immediately. maybe, but not if i was smart enough, and did include an secure autoupdate(covert communication channel) feature. 1. make obfuscated trojan with secure autoupdate. 2. let it be installed on many machines. 3. send malicious 'update', that sends the wallet to me, via the covert channel. 4. profit. very simple. |
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the question still stands: why do paranoid people on this forum use windows or mac or any other closed source os? (windows and mac are the most popular)
If it had been phrased like this, I don't think there would have been nearly so much confusion. Why, indeed, to all these tin-hat wearing paranoid bitcoiners use windows, the LEAST secure operating system out there? How many trojan threads are there? i could make a trojan to linux if i wanted to, no problem! (obfuscated python script, or precompiled 'miner') why the hell use a possible-trojan os? (sorry if sounding overzealous) |
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I agree, this whole thread reeks of FUD, but I think he's just a little overzealous in his championing of Open Source.
FUT - Fear, uncertainty and truth FUD - Fear, uncertainty and doubt there is no doubt in my posts, only truth. the only doubt there is if microsoft has or has not put malware in windows computers, which i don't know, but i don't think they would. oh. see now im protectin microsoft! it is based on logic, it would be very very stupid of them to put malware on computers, bad bad PR. but still, they can do it if they like, there is nothing to stop them. Exactly my point - so you have nothing to worry about. Anyway, I like linux systems, I just don't use them because it's not practical for me to do so. Perhaps as computing advances open source solutions will become more popular. the question still stands: why do paranoid people on this forum use windows or mac or any other closed source os? (windows and mac are the most popular) |
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I agree, this whole thread reeks of FUD, but I think he's just a little overzealous in his championing of Open Source.
FUT - Fear, uncertainty and truth FUD - Fear, uncertainty and doubt there is no doubt in my posts, only truth. the only doubt there is if microsoft has or has not put malware in windows computers, which i don't know, but i don't think they would. oh. see now im protectin microsoft! it is based on logic, it would be very very stupid of them to put malware on computers, bad bad PR. but still, they can do it if they like, there is nothing to stop them. |
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none! but they can do it. please see what words i use. i do not say that they do, only that they can. Lots of things can happen through all kinds of mediums - Apple could decide to collect and redistribute personal information on iPhone users through an implicit agreement, Sun could, effective immediately, charge royalty for all Java programs produced henceforth, and the operators of Deepbit could decide to capitalize on their pool monopoly by doubling their use fee. Furthermore, the world could end tomorrow. and people know this, and are scared of it. look at facebook, people are crying and screaming about privacy issues. but they don't know what microsoft or apple can do with their computers. people are just ignoring/unknowing the fact that they can have access to their computers. on this forum some people are paranoid that the governements or corporations are gonna rape them in the ass, but they still use windows or mac, not knowing what they can do if they like. open source are not suspicious, you can read the source, and verify that it is not malicious. you can't do that with closed source. |
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