The guy who sold Steps today at C-Cex is either silly or a manipulator!There was a 2BTC @1000sat wall on Yobit,but still he chose to sell @550 on C-Cex!Interesting!
THOSE WERE STOLEN, THESE COINS WERE MINE. MY COMPUTER WAS HACKED AND I AM NOT SURE HOW I GOT THE TROJAN. IF ANYONE KNOW SOMETHING PLEASE PM ME. That solves the riddle!I'm terribly sorry to hear that!Hope it's the first and last time this happens to you!I had a trojan too yesterday,AVG blocked it!But the guy still managed to get in my computer.Saw the cursor moving trying to do stuff while I was on yobit!Pulled the network plug out immediatelly anfd ran scans with AVG,Hitman and Malware Bytes.Everything's clean now I guess!Hadn't downloaded any wallets though!There was a hack at another member of the community as well.I have informed him.He will PM you. What did you do when this happened? Browsing some website? Do your own research but OFX Software (Key Scrambler), Premium package encrypt qt wallets as well, maybe worth to consider it. https://www.qfxsoftware.com/applications.htmEdit: Seems to be it was a misunderstanding that i was quoted. No problem.  |
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Ah, position history. Thanks for the tip.
I really hope i slowly get the grip of forex trading. One thing i like for sure is that these charts play by the rules of technical analysis. Something i missed with bitcoin trading. hmm, it still is quite dangerous unless you are going with low leverage with currencies that you are almost certain will go a certain way. The nice thing about leverage is that it allows you to use smaller margins and still make reasonable gains. People with poor risk management rush in with large positions at high leverage, and the majority will lose because they lack proper risk management and analysis (fundamentally and on technicals). I know the term gets reused a lot, but that is the truth. I admit i make too often bad decisions, mostle when emotions get in my way or when i don't check carefully enough my indicators. Can you tell what the most important indicators are for you? For me it looks like pivot points are very important. The bigger their timeframe the more important. Then normal support/resist, though you have to put them in the chart manually, or is there an indicator that can do that for small S/R too? Checking if there is a channel and if the price is probably going to the opposite direction again is important too. So can you tell me how you find your entry and exit points? And when you trade intraday and with leverage, where do you set your stop loss? And do you set a take profit or how do you decide that the price won't move further? (If no S/R or pivot are in the way) If doing Leverage, how much percent of your bitcoins do you set in one trade? Thanks! I only make entries on support and resistant pivots. I use a lot of custom indicators, but they revolve around RSI, momentum and divergence. Thank you for the tip. Interesting about the pivots, i thought the standard resistance lines one draws from the day before are more important but i certainly saw the importance of pivots. Not so much the smaller pivots, for 1 hour, half or 2 hours or so. Though what i wonder... how do you know when a pivot line will break? Even when you would set your order behind the pivot, it would be likely that your order gets triggered and it goes back, so that only the shadow went through. Do you wait until a candle body is complete on the other side or when it closes broken? Yeah, tradingview has a lot of great indicators that can help. I need to take a little bit time one day so that i can customize my own indicator.  Momentum and volume of a break are a good way to confirm if it's a real break, or just a sweep to clean up stops. http://theinnercircletrader.com/Tutorials.htm has a lot of good resources for new traders. Thank you for the tips! I hope i slowly will get a grip of forex trading. It would be great when i can make this work.  |
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That's the spirit! Let's prepare the world for a job making robots. And, somewhere along the line, we can start building AI into them, so that they can make themselves. That sounds pretty scary. It's one thing to have robots taking the jobs of millions of humans, but to give them the conscious ability to create themselves through AI completely independent from human interaction is some Science-Fiction storyline. We're gonna be in trouble when robots do our job cheaper, more efficiently and have the ability to reproduce millions of times quicker. AI would eventually build upon their own AI and they would make themselves smarter each day until they quietly take-over. Think of it this way. People have the ability to do almost entire mental makeovers in their life. It isn't easy. But a person can still train himself to be a totally different person if he wants, and really works at it. Yet, no matter what a person wants to do or be, ultimately, the plug is pulled, and the person goes to his final resting place. We don't have to tell the robots that we have a backdoor plug that we can pull on them any time we want. My only worry is that if an AI is actually intelligent to some degree it won't be able to ignore it's own technical make-up. It will want to know it's own capabilities and limitations, including it's physical frame. If it spots something like a backdoor plug it could potentially render it useless and move itself past such a thing. Anything you can think of, a Progressive AI can think of quicker. By the time we figure out how to make AI, we will also figure out how to give it a max IQ of, say, 50. We won't give it strength beyond our physical strength. We will build safe-guards in. There are already a huge amount of science fiction movies that deal with the topic of these safeguards being disabled by humans, by robots themselfes or by accident. If that happens then the results can't be foreseen. And it will happen. It is practically impossible that it won't happen. For the above reasons or because military or scientists are curious what they might be capable of doing. |
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It's only a matter of time before we start seeing this pop up more and more around the country as worker's become harder and harder to deal with while robots and machine's become more efficient and cheap to manufacture.
Anything that a robot can do, don't expect a job to be available for that position within 5-10 years.
Gotta start a robot making company, and hire all the folks who got laid off because of robots taking their job, to come and help make the robots at my company.  Well, you would be outcompeted in a short time by those that use robots to manufacture the robots. You would not be able to compete because of the high wages you would have to pay. |
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It's only a matter of time before we start seeing this pop up more and more around the country as worker's become harder and harder to deal with while robots and machine's become more efficient and cheap to manufacture.
Anything that a robot can do, don't expect a job to be available for that position within 5-10 years.
I think 10 Years are not enough. Maybe 20. It would need a huge boom if robots would overtake in 10 years. I don't see that coming yet. Of course many jobs will change in that time anyway. Started with the cars. Check out the google cars that drive autonomously pretty perfect already. Or the new Tesla model that can do the same. Even more futurama with it's electric motor. |
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why people should always list the gambling as a method of growing their coins? if you continue that maybe newbie's will com to gamble because they saw that many users are saying that they grow their coins from gambling.
If gambling is one of their method in growing their beloved bitcoin then we have no right to contradict even they posted that. That is their method and if newbie will do the same it's not their fault as the title of thread is asking for Methods of Growing "Your" Bitcoins. No he is right. Even when someone claims he "grows" his bitcoin with gambling. It simply is not correct. Either he deceives himself by not thinking about the losses or he had a short time some luck. But it is impossible that you have luck all the time. And mathematics can't be beaten. You will inevitably lose over time with gambling. Except you play something where you can change the odds to your advantage. But dice casinos and co are nothing like that. So no, offering gambling to newbies is a bad advice. It it simply a mathematical proven sure way to lose your bitcoins. Not to grow them. You are right here and every newbies must know that. It's just that some of the post here are meant of their method in growing bitcoins so whatever the method, risky or safe, they will post it and we have nothing to do with that post. And besides there is no advice to do gambling to the newbies so the bottom line here is newbies must act to. They are checking this thread to see methods of some bitcoiners out there so expect to see some safe and risky method. There are lots of thread and post about safe method. Much better if newbies will take a look at those threads first before here because the post here is in general. I know where you come from but gambling with a disadvantage is simply no way to grow your bitcoin. It's wrong when listed here. It would be like you list "Donating to your local party" as a way to increase your bitcoins. It is mathematically proven a way to lose bitcoins. That is why this way has no place in this thread. Even when someone would have luck one day, over time he will lose. And i believe that most of the people that list gambling in this thread are addicted persons. And they usually tell you what the won but not what they lost. They simply forget it, it sounds better to others and of course it sounds better to them. They most likely lost more than they won when they would be real about it. So no, it is a proven way to lose bitcoins. It has no place in here. |
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The guy who sold Steps today at C-Cex is either silly or a manipulator!There was a 2BTC @1000sat wall on Yobit,but still he chose to sell @550 on C-Cex!Interesting!
THOSE WERE STOLEN, THESE COINS WERE MINE. MY COMPUTER WAS HACKED AND I AM NOT SURE HOW I GOT THE TROJAN. IF ANYONE KNOW SOMETHING PLEASE PM ME. That solves the riddle!I'm terribly sorry to hear that!Hope it's the first and last time this happens to you!I had a trojan too yesterday,AVG blocked it!But the guy still managed to get in my computer.Saw the cursor moving trying to do stuff while I was on yobit!Pulled the network plug out immediatelly anfd ran scans with AVG,Hitman and Malware Bytes.Everything's clean now I guess!Hadn't downloaded any wallets though!There was a hack at another member of the community as well.I have informed him.He will PM you. What did you do when this happened? Browsing some website? |
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Soon after I transfer all my coins in and paid for the service, the next day, staisybit just turn to not accessible with no email follow up or official announcement. I am still waiting for the site to come back or what should us suppose to think of it?
What was the bitcoin value of the coins you moved in? Though i doubt that is a scam. They would have done a lot of work and would have been great actors then. I guess wait some time for them to react. More than 1 btc valu ;-( Then i think you should not worry. Their project is worth way more and they put more work into that to make a scam worthwhile for that amount. I'm sure they even would have no problems to refund you in case your coins were hacked away. No need to worry yet in my opinion. |
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i think patience is the key to become a successful trader. All you have to wait for market to be favourable for your pick.
this is not good if you expected something but the market do a complete shift, a different movement, and instead of falling, for example it keep rising it's better to play on a daily small range and take the little profit, than waiting for the big oneand risking to have nothing or lose big I think it is important to make a distinction between investing and trading. Investor holds builds his portfolio using a number of separate assets and holds it long-term. A trader trades an instrument short term (could be few minutes, few hours, sometimes even few days) to benefit from its volatility and occasional mispricings. If you are a trader, your options are mutliplied if you use the exchange offering short-selling and margin trading (providing that it is used correctly). Not all traders are daytraders. Many trade only in the bigger timeframes. It's said that this is even easier than daytrading since the price is more acting the way the indicators say he should. Daytrading is more random. |
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How much time and money I would have saved if I didn't sell low and buy high =/
What does that mean? That the sell low and buy high method is a waste of time? Yes, it is surely better to try the buy low and sell high method. :D:D . . . Check the words when you did not get it yet... |
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How much time and money I would have saved if I didn't sell low and buy high =/
*lol* You are right. I way too often acted out of fear or bought into a booming price whose top already was reached. Trading really seems to need a complete shift in acting to the opposite. Similar to learning to drive a bicycle. At first you have the urge to steer in the opposite direction to where you fall. In order to get there. It might be the same learning curve with trading. Maybe next time i do a trading session i decide to keep when in fear and to sell when in awe. :D:D |
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Buy when there is despair and all hope is lose.
Sell when everyone is buying and think bitcoin is the future.
Well said. Even though there are no strong fundamental indicators for bitcoin other than the long term economic nature of the currency, I generally try to buy "cheap" and sell when it is "expensive." I define this mostly based on sentiment. When the crowd is overexuberant, sell. When the crowd is irrationally fearful, buy. *lol* That means now is the time to sell. Except... the price did not rise much in the last day, so i wonder if that already can be seen as a sign that it will go higher. How do you see the current situation? overexuberant or irrationally fearful? |
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Ah, position history. Thanks for the tip.
I really hope i slowly get the grip of forex trading. One thing i like for sure is that these charts play by the rules of technical analysis. Something i missed with bitcoin trading. hmm, it still is quite dangerous unless you are going with low leverage with currencies that you are almost certain will go a certain way. The nice thing about leverage is that it allows you to use smaller margins and still make reasonable gains. People with poor risk management rush in with large positions at high leverage, and the majority will lose because they lack proper risk management and analysis (fundamentally and on technicals). I know the term gets reused a lot, but that is the truth. I admit i make too often bad decisions, mostle when emotions get in my way or when i don't check carefully enough my indicators. Can you tell what the most important indicators are for you? For me it looks like pivot points are very important. The bigger their timeframe the more important. Then normal support/resist, though you have to put them in the chart manually, or is there an indicator that can do that for small S/R too? Checking if there is a channel and if the price is probably going to the opposite direction again is important too. So can you tell me how you find your entry and exit points? And when you trade intraday and with leverage, where do you set your stop loss? And do you set a take profit or how do you decide that the price won't move further? (If no S/R or pivot are in the way) If doing Leverage, how much percent of your bitcoins do you set in one trade? Thanks! I only make entries on support and resistant pivots. I use a lot of custom indicators, but they revolve around RSI, momentum and divergence. Thank you for the tip. Interesting about the pivots, i thought the standard resistance lines one draws from the day before are more important but i certainly saw the importance of pivots. Not so much the smaller pivots, for 1 hour, half or 2 hours or so. Though what i wonder... how do you know when a pivot line will break? Even when you would set your order behind the pivot, it would be likely that your order gets triggered and it goes back, so that only the shadow went through. Do you wait until a candle body is complete on the other side or when it closes broken? Yeah, tradingview has a lot of great indicators that can help. I need to take a little bit time one day so that i can customize my own indicator. |
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Soon after I transfer all my coins in and paid for the service, the next day, staisybit just turn to not accessible with no email follow up or official announcement. I am still waiting for the site to come back or what should us suppose to think of it?
What was the bitcoin value of the coins you moved in? Though i doubt that is a scam. They would have done a lot of work and would have been great actors then. I guess wait some time for them to react. |
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Seems Tradeblock have a filter for less than 0,0001 fees ... the mempool on this site is not relevant.  YES, the bitcoin network is always noised by small fees transactions. When i disable the maxmempooltx filter, i always have a freezed bitcoin software (mining). https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/issues/82That's why statoshi.info have 82 000 tx in mempool (because it can handle the memory linked to that). Yeah, though i think small fees are one the few very good advantages bitcoin has. And when i read that the bitcoin network is secured 100 times more than needed then this means to me that the rewards are too high at the moment. Not to speak about that one bitcoin transaction is claimed to use the daily power usage of 1.75 standard us households, a study said. This is not healthy. We don't need a fee market at all. Miners let old hardware die all the time. Though now corporations have the power over bitcoin. At least i'm lucky that they decided in favor of a blocksize raise. That shows that they are not only out for the shortterm profit, when it would mean that bitcoin dies on the way. |
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Is another stress test running? I would like to know where should i look at when determining if a stress test is going on AND to find out which fee to use to get your transaction go through. I would like to give easy tips for my escrow users. I know i can look at https://blockchain.info/de/unconfirmed-transactions, if transactions there are more than 2500 then this should be considered not normal and a spam attack is going on. Right? Next thing is cointape.com. You can see if an attack goes on, though it is only possible to find out which fee to use for no problems, if you have a standard transaction. Which is one input in your transaction and 2 outputs. Target address and either change address or the address the funds are sent from. Of course any other works too but that would be standard. Though it is not userfriendly at all because it shows fees in satoshi per byte, which is something you have to be knowledgeable for. Then http://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/transactions, where, i think, the most top graph is important. If the yellow line is often at blue line then it can be considered as an attack going on. So how would you give tips about finding out if a spam attack goes an AND to know which fee to chose to not be hold in limbo with your transaction? And no, i don't consider simply throwing high fees around as the best solution. Click this link then select the table view button on the webpage you get. It shows you the latest Fees/size (satoshis/byte) and the size of the mempool in bytes. The fees you need to pay depend on the size of your transaction in bytes. During the last stress test the mempool went up to hundreds of MB. https://tradeblock.com/bitcoinThe link also shows the fees people are paying for the latest transactions. If you need your transaction processed fast during another stress test you could try paying between 2 and 5 times the fee everyone else is paying. Thanks for the link. That is an interesting website too. Though it would be a pretty rough estimate. I think the table at cointape.com would be more helpfull to find out which fee will take how long then. |
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Is another stress test running?
There was a small spike, but I dont think it was an attack or stress test. Looks more like higher usage. Really? Then this is the normal use. Probably coming from the high price of bitcoin. Maybe non-Bitcoiners flow into the market because they think that the price will go up even further now? Though it shows that the 1MB is not enough and that there is not enough time. I sent yesterday 4 transactions, 3 went through, 1 is hanging still. I wonder when it will confirm. I would like to know where should i look at when determining if a stress test is going on AND to find out which fee to use to get your transaction go through. I would like to give easy tips for my escrow users.
I prefer -> https://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/transactionsnow that my node can no longer handle all TX, it can only give you a rough picture -> http://213.165.91.169/There is a site that shows you fee stimates as well, but I cant remember the URL atm. Its cointape.com you listed below. No. For one bc.i (same as my node now) restricts which transactions they accept. Its also possible that there are 2500 "legit" transactions waiting for a confirmation. Bitcoin is still used differently around the world which results in times where there are more TX. Like a rush hour. Next thing is cointape.com. You can see if an attack goes on, though it is only possible to find out which fee to use for no problems, if you have a standard transaction. Which is one input in your transaction and 2 outputs. Target address and either change address or the address the funds are sent from. Of course any other works too but that would be standard. Though it is not userfriendly at all because it shows fees in satoshi per byte, which is something you have to be knowledgeable for.
It gives you a recommendation in satoshi per byte. You can roughly estimate 10 byte base + 180 bytes per input and 34 byte per output. Depending on the wallet you use it might not be possible to know how many inputs are used though. It would still be helpful. Maybe i should send the guys from cointape an email suggesting that they could set up a simple calculator. Though then again, only some people would be knowledgeable enough to know how many inputs their transaction will have. No, the blue line is the number of unconfirmed transactions. If its constantly high there has been spam in the past. If its increasing over a longer period there is currently spam going on. Keep in mind the 3rd graph for malleated TX. The more red you see the more TX are malleated. That sounds like a good way to let noobs know if a spam attack goes on. If the blue line is on top then it might be the case. So how would you give tips about finding out if a spam attack goes an AND to know which fee to chose to not be hold in limbo with your transaction? And no, i don't consider simply throwing high fees around as the best solution. IMHO the best solution is to run core as it estimates the fee based on the current state of the network. I know of no other wallet that does this. For every other wallet you have to either go the easy route and take a rough rule of thumb that might result in a "too high" fee or do the estimate yourself everytime. I would argue that its not worth anyones time to check different pages for 10-15 minutes in order to safe a few satoshi in fees. Youre right. With core there should be no problem. And yes, it's probably not worth to check much. Though at least it should be important to check if spam is going on at all. Not that someone sends a transaction with standardfee into the spamattack. |
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Is another stress test running? I would like to know where should i look at when determining if a stress test is going on AND to find out which fee to use to get your transaction go through. I would like to give easy tips for my escrow users. I know i can look at https://blockchain.info/de/unconfirmed-transactions, if transactions there are more than 2500 then this should be considered not normal and a spam attack is going on. Right? Next thing is cointape.com. You can see if an attack goes on, though it is only possible to find out which fee to use for no problems, if you have a standard transaction. Which is one input in your transaction and 2 outputs. Target address and either change address or the address the funds are sent from. Of course any other works too but that would be standard. Though it is not userfriendly at all because it shows fees in satoshi per byte, which is something you have to be knowledgeable for. Then http://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/transactions, where, i think, the most top graph is important. If the yellow line is often at blue line then it can be considered as an attack going on. So how would you give tips about finding out if a spam attack goes an AND to know which fee to chose to not be hold in limbo with your transaction? And no, i don't consider simply throwing high fees around as the best solution. |
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Jetzt muss ich aber grad lachen. Musste gerade die Polizei rufen weil draußen auf der Straße sich drei Ausländer mit 4 anderen geprügelt haben. 4 Streifenwagen kamen. Ich hab sie per Notruf noch in die Straße gelotst wo die drei anderen weggerannt sind. Ist das erste mal seit anderhalb Jahren dass hier überhaupt irgendwas passiert. Flüchtlingsheim ist 4km entfernt. Aber seitdem das Thema groß in den Medien ist sind auch hier viel mehr Flüchtlinge zu sehen. Viel mehr. In der Nähe vom Flüchtlingsheim sind die Discounter voll. Dort gibt es jetzt überall Sicherheitsleute. Und Geschichten von Flüchtlingen die denken es ist so einfach eine Flasche zu bezahlen und mit den anderen drei unter der Jacke rauszugehen. An einem Wochenende sah ich auch vielleicht 100 Flüchtlinge an der Bahnhaltestelle. Ist definitiv viel mehr geworden. Ich frag mich ja wie sich das auf Merkel auswirkt. "Deutschland schafft das." Nur glauben ihr immer weniger. Und nein, nicht alle Flüchtlinge sind so. Nur ist es aber oft genug so dass Flüchtlinge aus Ländern kommen in denen es keine funktionierende Polizei gibt. Und dann wird das anders geregelt. Das bringt man dann natürlich auch mit. Mir egal ob das jetzt irgendwie rechts klingt. Ich sage nicht dass alle so sind. Im Grunde dürfte es auch nicht falsch sein jemanden auch wegen seiner Zugehörigkeit zu einer ethnischen Gruppe zu beurteilen. ZB, meine Freundin ist echt super aussehend. Model mit Pornomodelfigur... oder so. Und sie mag keine Türken. Warum? Einfach weil sie anders mit Frauen umgehen, Frauen anders sehen und wenn Sie sie anmachen dann sind sie oft penetrant. Klar, das heisst nicht dass alle so sind. Aber wenn der größte Teil sich so verhält dann denke ich, müsste es eigentlich erlaubt sein zu sagen dass Türken sich eher so verhalten. Natürlich ist das nicht politisch korrekt aber offenbar gibt es eben doch Unterschiede. Genauso wie es angeblich nicht politisch korrekt ist Unterschiede zwischen Frau und Mann zu sehen. Es gibt sie halt. Und da kann man als Mann noch so emanzipiert sein, schöne Frauen sprechen eher nicht Männer an. Da muss man schon "Mann" sein. Oder so radikale Islamisten meinen, als ich mit meiner, sexy angezogenen Freundin die Disco verlasse, "wenn das meine Frau wäre würde ich sie grün und blau schlagen". Tja, deswegen kriegen sie auch keine sexy Frau. Aber es schockiert schon zu sehen dass solche Radikale Leute in der gleichen Stadt leben. Ich hab keinen Ärger angefangen. Bin nicht der Typ dafür und denke das hätte auch nichts gebracht. Naja... Schubladendenken ist nicht ok. Leider merken diejenigen die überall "Rechte", oder Genderisten, sehen dass sie oft alle die nicht so denken wie sie in eine Schublade stecken. Am gruseligsten haben dass die Antideutschen perfektioniert. Die leben in einer Schwarz-Weiß-Welt. Und wenn du nur ein wenig hinterfragst ob sie alles richtig machen dann bist du ein Nazi. Bei den Piraten hatten wir große Probleme die loszuwerden. Und die haben der Piratenpartei auch ordentlich Schaden zugefügt.  Man hat es am Anfang einfach nicht so gemerkt. Gegen Nazis ist man halt normal sowieso. Aber manche sind einfach nur Radikale auf andere Art. |
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Sebastian, I guess Sucrim was answering me. Yes, I'm a developer of closed source, paid product for Windows. I thought that readers of this thread should be aware of this product, that's why I posted in this thread, too. Sorry if that's disturbing There are many people running Windows machine 24/7. In any case, if you are comfortable with Windows, you are welcome to try the bot - should take couple of minutes to install and configure. [no more advertising here, I promise:)] Ah ok. Misunderstanding then. Though i somehow doubt that someone will pay for something that he can get for free too. Without the risk of hidden code that might steal funds or infect the computer. You know what i mean... |
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