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2381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 04:59:21 PM

2382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 03:06:49 PM
fuck this left and right bullshit. are we rich? ccmf? Carolina gentlemen?
If you are not selling your bitcoin, you aren't rich Grin

Yes, finally, the price touches $19k, which was happening 3 years ago. But it is not going to end because the price will continue to increase Grin

 Faulty logic, dude.  You failed to consider that some Bitcoin aficionados were already rich - selling not required. EVER.


2383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
2384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 02:52:20 PM
At this point I can buy Risto's castle.  Cool

Wonder if he still owns it?

 I believe the castle was irreparably damaged in a fire 2 years ago and rumour has it that Risto passed away recently (his death was not related to the fire - physically - as he was not in Estonia when it occurred).
 
 However, Bitcoin lives on and there are many castles in Europe for sale!  May I suggest the Pyrenees?



 
2385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 01:14:26 PM
gobble gobble
2386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2020, 02:01:16 AM
Just in case it was a bad meme keeping him away, I'll make him feel a little better by posting worse.


2387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2020, 11:18:55 PM
I’m thinking about not selling any coin until 1 year after the NEXT halving..

I think I can maintain continuing to be poor and wageslave for another 4 years..

I don’t even want a massive cat sailboat like that.. I could buy the sailboat I want for about 1btc right now..
But I also need many years worth of “fuck you, I’m onna boat” money..
How cheap is food in South America exactly?

 Considering they're now engaged in a war against obesity, I would say food is cheap and plentiful (but not necessarily nutritious?).   North America really screwed over Bolivia and Peru on the price of what used to be a staple for them - quinoa.  It became the latest and greatest superfood here and unaffordable there.  We are such inconsiderate bastards; it's no wonder the rest of the free world hates us.
2388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2020, 11:05:27 PM
Also, some of us have more than one hat. I have 2. Others have 3+. May be worth putting them all on display inside the user's hat page.
No biggie, but why not include ALL hats in existence? They may become collector's items someday...
Over time I will include all the hats of each user in their profile.
When I started, the process consisted of submitting a PM with data and their hats.
- Date registered Bitcointalk
- Profile
- Bpip
- Avatar: small / big
- Brief description image
- ✔️ = 3 best published threads
But very few did and I had to do it myself and just look for the original hat of each one.

It would be good to keep the WO hats distinction clear. I mean, I am open for everyone to get a hat so long as he/she complies with our values.
After all, we are a kind of a club, aren't we?
Exactly, the Wall Observer hat equals WO=BTC+HAT (In any order)


 While I do agree in principle, I don't want to be the one casting a vote that makes more work for you!  You've already been very gracious and charitable.  Thank you for the WOhats site and all the work you do to maintain it.

2389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2020, 04:31:08 AM
d_eddie, that 15000 hat of yours, is so out of style. Cool

15k stable
end of year brings ATH
time to change my hat

#haiku



That's right, sorry I'm lagging behind. Need to poke our Official Hatter Smiley

  You are lagging behind! Does that put me two steps ahead?

I have a hunch that before year's end I'm gonna be able to change my hat. It's getting stuffy Wink



 Why wait until the new year?


2390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2020, 04:25:11 AM
Sorry, I'm slipping a bit lately.  Made this one a week ago but forgot to post it. 

Introducing BlackHatCoiner



avatar-sized



Welcome to the WO thread!

2391  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] Serious Discussion of Very Serious Professional-Class GPUs on: November 20, 2020, 06:56:38 PM
Despite its lulzy tone, this is a serious post, seeking advice from the Wall’s professional-class GPU expert brain trust.  I am a Unix terminal junkie, who does not play games or mine shitcoins—not a GPU expert!

~snip

What the fuck minimal hardware (and electricity budget) is realistically needed for entry-level playing with kitty AI?  Assuming a desire to train one’s own networks...

~snip


 It depends on your interest level multiplied by your wealth divided by your patience2.

https://lambdalabs.com/blog/choosing-a-gpu-for-deep-learning/

 tl;dr Scroll half-way down the page for the GPU recommendations.
2392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2020, 05:18:11 PM
How can it be considered wiser to rent from an individual owner as opposed to 'renting' from the bank - you'd be obliged to either one and both could theoretically kick you out for non-payment.

How about, um, owning your own home?  As in:  Free and clear.

What a nice society you have:  The “American dream” of home ownership is truly dead, out of reach and unthinkable to the overwhelming majority of Americans.  It has been replaced by an illusion based on a false dichotomy between renting from the bank via an intermediary “landlord” who rents from a bank, and renting directly from the bank.

The banks own everything!  You are so immersed in debt culture based on debt-“backed” money and total submission to the banks, you cannot even see what is wrong with your proposition.

Bitcoin, and home ownership:  Be your own bank.  Be the king of your castle.


"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
😼 Bitcoin Core (onion)


Don’t get me started on the rents known as “property taxes”.  Are you even aware of how recent a development that is in the United States?

See also:
Historically, besides heritable class status, the single most effective guarantor of voter quality was a real property ownership requirement.  [...]

Naturally, I think that such a requirement must logically exclude mortgaged properties, which (especially in today’s society) are effectively rented from the bank.

 Nearly everyone in this world would love to own their home 'free and clear'!  I'm not sure of your intended audience in this thread but I'm sure that your preaching to a choir of Bitcoin hodlers is a pointless exercise; I imagine none of us will have been enlightened.

  The 'American Dream' has little or nothing to do with simple home ownership.  Did you purposely reduce it to such an inane concept or was that comically unintentional?  In fact, the 'American Dream' has little or nothing to do with material prosperity. The American Dream (at the very least) is that anyone, regardless of their present status in life, can realize their aspirations with hard work, passion and dedication; even if you think the system is rigged in favour of others, with the right attitude and dedication, that indignation alone might be all that's needed to spur you to success.
Don't go all Nietzsche on my ass; I did not mention "pursuit of happiness".


Americans stereotypically have a total lack of perspective which is both tragic, and unintentionally comical.



 Should we still rejoice when Bitcoin's valuation improves as compared to the same American Dollar used by those totally, stereotypically-perspective-lacking fucks?

 ▲rhetorical question▲





2393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2020, 01:17:49 PM
So every once in awhile I look at my Porsche and think "Damn that thing is worth a lot given the 2 bitcoins I paid for it". The value of having it these past few years is amazing, but those bitcoins would have bought other things now. Time however is something you can't replace.

I wonder if Bob is going to look at his liberated and lubricated ex-wage-slave and think "damn that boy's ass is worth a lot given the X bitcoins I paid to bail him out of bondage".

I'm afraid me paying 30 BTC for my Ducati is not going to age any better then it already has so far.... But like Bob said, absolutely no regrets!!



You mean the one that you crashed a few weeks later, or a different one?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

My face is starting to slip away from my skull, yo.

This rocket has some high-grade fuel, yo.

We might hit $18K today at this rate.
This shit remind me of late 2017. The craziest thing is that this bull market is just getting started though.

How could it remind you of late 2017 when we have not even reached the previous ATH.. ?   hardly makes any senses...
@JayJuanGee Today I am writing here on this thread first time because I am new to this forum and in this community trying hard to understand someone suggest me if I want to understand this all then I have to read your posts very carefully so I already done and read some good number of pages look like its very interesting for me but still want to ask can you give more tips to understand this all thanks.

 Motherfucker!


Very Nice and Thanks  Shocked

 It's not meant for you but for the person who directed you to ask JJG.

This really cracked me up! The funniest post I've read in many pages  Grin For such advices we have a saying in our country: To send someone for green caviar.



 It's such an wonderful feeling to be understood and I'm always interested in reading idioms used in other cultures.  Thank you!
 
 In case you're reading this Mr. JayJuanGee, Happy Thursday!
 We love you.  Kiss
 
#nohomo
2394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2020, 04:48:04 AM
I get "free" health insurance in America... In fact it's better than free, it pays me, I got a $30 check because I had their free health insurance last year. lol  (No copay doctor visits + free medicine etc... it's amazing)

Then I get $190 for "groceries".  It's basically a debt card and you can spend it on anything that isn't cooked.

I could buy $190 in King Crab and live oysters if I wanted OR $190 in straight candy bars.  lol... it's pathetic.

Poor people don't deserve choices... they deserve help.

It's amazing that people pay big bucks for Blue Apron meal plans, but we think meal plans for the poor are somehow inhumane... fuck me.

 Do you get the money for groceries weekly or monthly?
2395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2020, 04:42:57 AM

 You are missing something.

 Those people are not in need of survival rations yet; just a little help.  In fact, 40% of the people in that line of cars were looking for help for the first-time.  Many people lost their jobs due to the lock-downs and other restrictions implemented due to Covid-19 have run out of unemployment benefits, likely much of the savings they may have had.  Since the second stimulus bill has been stalled for months, Americans are not getting the second promised $1200 relief check either.   One thing that you don't see by looking at the picture is that many people in that line of cars also received a turkey - which is essential for a proper "Thanksgiving" dinner.  This particular image isn't about survival food, this is food that has been donated by people (and companies) who 'have' trying to make sure that people who are a little low on funds will still be able to have a proper Thanksgiving dinner with family - which is a luxury.   Americans are generous people - in fact, they are likely among the most generous people you will find.

 There is a program in the USA called SNAP which stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program that provides food (or a food-purchasing card) for individuals and families in need.  It varies by state but generally a family of 4 can still have an income of >$3000 per month and still qualify for the benefit.  Americans are far from destitute.


Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Makes more sense but still donno what to make of it. First I took for granted that it is too soon for people that lost their jobs due to covid to be already out of unemployment benefits. Also I thought it was some sort of government food bank not a private initiative fueled by other people's generosity. Didn't know either that $1200 relief check was the only government help till date.

Not that much surprised that $3000/month there is considered on the verge of poverty, considering how high the average salaries are there.

Well I guess it is all about the weird contrast of those nice new cars and the concept of "food bank"... and maybe something about the determination to live above their means (or on credit) at the cost of not having any safety net other than charity.

  I don't think they see it as 'above their means' though.  If I can borrow a bunch of money to buy a home at today's price, write the loan interest amount off against my income tax and have a (typically) more valuable home in the future then it's an investment.  As long as I can make the payments each month, I'm not really living beyond my means.  I just need to make sure I don't have to pay more in loan payments than I can bring in through my work.  How can it be considered wiser to rent from an individual owner as opposed to 'renting' from the bank - you'd be obliged to either one and both could theoretically kick you out for non-payment.  Covid-19 was a once (maybe twice) in a lifetime event that likely couldn't have been factored into your investment decisions (at least not easily).  
 
 Also, consumer spending accounts for 70% of the US GDP - it's a powerful engine that requires a lot of fuel Smiley
2396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2020, 03:33:53 AM
Quote
Thousands of cars lined up to collect food in Dallas, Texas, over the weekend, stretching as far as the eye can see.

Poor Americans are forced using their cars (on credit) to stand in a food line for hours and the crazy thing is they actually believe they live in the best country in the world.


https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817

 In which other country can poor people line up at a food bank while sitting in an air-conditioned, luxury vehicle, listening to music on a factory-installed, 200+ W, 6 speaker, sound system surfing the internet on their iPhone 11 max pro??  It doesnt get any better than this; not even close.  This makes 'Best country in the world' seem like a gross understatement.



What I would like to know is if that is also part of the stupidity of society (the same that think credit is for spending, when it is the other way around). I mean, food for "surviving" is cheap as fuck. As in probably cheaper than the gas used to go collect it. So, unless they are also giving "luxury food" in those food banks I really don't understand it. How does it work? How much food and what "quality" do they give? I was thinking that maybe they give a few months worth of food for one trip... but that wouldn't probably fit into the trunk of a single vehicle.

I really feel like I am missing something here.

 You are missing something.

 Those people are not in need of survival rations yet; just a little help.  In fact, 40% of the people in that line of cars were looking for help for the first-time.  Many people lost their jobs due to the lock-downs and other restrictions implemented due to Covid-19 have run out of unemployment benefits, likely much of the savings they may have had.  Since the second stimulus bill has been stalled for months, Americans are not getting the second promised $1200 relief check either.   One thing that you don't see by looking at the picture is that many people in that line of cars also received a turkey - which is essential for a proper "Thanksgiving" dinner.  This particular image isn't about survival food, this is food that has been donated by people (and companies) who 'have' trying to make sure that people who are a little low on funds will still be able to have a proper Thanksgiving dinner with family - which is a luxury.   Americans are generous people - in fact, they are likely among the most generous people you will find.

 There is a program in the USA called SNAP which stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program that provides food (or a food-purchasing card) for individuals and families in need.  It varies by state but generally a family of 4 can still have an income of >$3000 per month and still qualify for the benefit.  Americans are far from destitute.
2397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2020, 08:25:00 PM
So every once in awhile I look at my Porsche and think "Damn that thing is worth a lot given the 2 bitcoins I paid for it". The value of having it these past few years is amazing, but those bitcoins would have bought other things now. Time however is something you can't replace.

I wonder if Bob is going to look at his liberated and lubricated ex-wage-slave and think "damn that boy's ass is worth a lot given the X bitcoins I paid to bail him out of bondage".

I'm afraid me paying 30 BTC for my Ducati is not going to age any better then it already has so far.... But like Bob said, absolutely no regrets!!



You mean the one that you crashed a few weeks later, or a different one?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

My face is starting to slip away from my skull, yo.

This rocket has some high-grade fuel, yo.

We might hit $18K today at this rate.
This shit remind me of late 2017. The craziest thing is that this bull market is just getting started though.

How could it remind you of late 2017 when we have not even reached the previous ATH.. ?   hardly makes any senses...
@JayJuanGee Today I am writing here on this thread first time because I am new to this forum and in this community trying hard to understand someone suggest me if I want to understand this all then I have to read your posts very carefully so I already done and read some good number of pages look like its very interesting for me but still want to ask can you give more tips to understand this all thanks.

 Motherfucker!


Very Nice and Thanks  Shocked

 It's not meant for you but for the person who directed you to ask JJG.
2398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2020, 08:21:21 PM
So every once in awhile I look at my Porsche and think "Damn that thing is worth a lot given the 2 bitcoins I paid for it". The value of having it these past few years is amazing, but those bitcoins would have bought other things now. Time however is something you can't replace.

I wonder if Bob is going to look at his liberated and lubricated ex-wage-slave and think "damn that boy's ass is worth a lot given the X bitcoins I paid to bail him out of bondage".

I'm afraid me paying 30 BTC for my Ducati is not going to age any better then it already has so far.... But like Bob said, absolutely no regrets!!



You mean the one that you crashed a few weeks later, or a different one?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

My face is starting to slip away from my skull, yo.

This rocket has some high-grade fuel, yo.

We might hit $18K today at this rate.
This shit remind me of late 2017. The craziest thing is that this bull market is just getting started though.

How could it remind you of late 2017 when we have not even reached the previous ATH.. ?   hardly makes any senses...
@JayJuanGee Today I am writing here on this thread first time because I am new to this forum and in this community trying hard to understand someone suggest me if I want to understand this all then I have to read your posts very carefully so I already done and read some good number of pages look like its very interesting for me but still want to ask can you give more tips to understand this all thanks.

 Motherfucker!
2399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2020, 06:09:56 PM


Fuck those guys.

My hatred of Josh Zerlan knows no bounds.

+1000
2400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 02:56:30 PM
Quote
Thousands of cars lined up to collect food in Dallas, Texas, over the weekend, stretching as far as the eye can see.

Poor Americans are forced using their cars (on credit) to stand in a food line for hours and the crazy thing is they actually believe they live in the best country in the world.


https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817

 In which other country can poor people line up at a food bank while sitting in an air-conditioned, luxury vehicle, listening to music on a factory-installed, 200+ W, 6 speaker, sound system surfing the internet on their iPhone 11 max pro??  It doesnt get any better than this; not even close.  This makes 'Best country in the world' seem like a gross understatement.

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