I do think Tspacepilot has been targeted a bit, but 2 wrongs do not make a right imo.
I'd like to correct that "has been" to "continues to be". I was targeted for a very long time by someone who finally revealed his true colors to people with power. Let's not forget that the reason I found that alt account he was using for his escrow scheme is because it was the 4th in a line of sockpuppets he was using to justify his abusive rating on me. It's very strange to me that as soon as one accuser becomes discredited another one pops out of the woodwork, making even less attempt to pretend to be a neutral party acting on the behalf of the community, Wardrick's posts seem to be straight-up harrassment combined with threats of doxxing and hidden control of default trust (have you looked at what this guy is writing since he reappears?). Certainly most of this is bluster, but it's not pretty and I appreciate folks calling attention to it. Also, please keep in mind that I have never traded here. Who knows, someday I might trade something here but I'm certainly not a service provider/escrow/seller/buyer. I say this to emphasize that I don't need a green trust rating and I'm not trying to pump up my trust rating or anything else. I do, however, object to abusive negative ratings being put on my account and the fact that Wardick seems to be continuing the tradition of harasing me based on TF's discredited accusations is certainly shameful behavior. Theymos has explained why recent feedback throws the trust rating into ? ??, then we have Wardick having edited his feedback back and forth between two texts three times now in 36 hours. That certainly seems like a blatant attempt from Wardick to game the system. I understand that you don't think outing Quickseller's scheme should have brought so many trust ratings to my account, but I kinda think that if Wardrick weren't trying to manipulate the system and play games, then people wouldn't be standing up for me. Personally I think that even if you gamed the bot - you have more than paid your debt. My question is: If what Wardrick is doing is wrong...how is Jonayld not wrong for doing the same thing basically? I guess I am being too literal with the feedback rules, but I have been extremely careful with how I leave feedback.
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Wardrick, what did you even change from the 2nd feedback to the 3rd one..looks about the same to me.
I disagree with the feedback you keep leaving. Do you now trust him because someone else does not? Read what the ratings say... Positive - You trust this person or had a successful trade. Neutral - Comments. Your rating will not affect this person's trust score. Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer. Not saying I agree with Wardrick's feedback, but offset or comments are supposed to be neutral. I also do not agree with the Dooglus loan either. I do think Tspacepilot has been targeted a bit, but 2 wrongs do not make a right imo.
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No. The entire notion of having an escrow is the fact that a trusted neutral third party is available to arbitrate the deal if anything ensures. The argument that some people here say they're 'self-escrowing' for some deals lies to the fact that the other party knows and fully trusts him/her to go through his part of the deal, and understands that there will be no third party being involved here. It is utterly dishonest and downright cheating when the escrower and one of the party is colluding/the same person as the outcome/decisions made will not be fair to the other party at all. This just proves you can't fully trust anybody on this forum. Ask yourself the question, if you were trying to buy or sell 100,000 bitcoins or a similar ridiculous amount would you trust anybody on this forum to escrow for you? I'd rather do a face to face meet but carry a gun for protection That is pretty obvious I would only trust certain people here with up to maybe 50-60 BTC. I really doubt anyone here escrows 100's of BTC without meeting up. I've did much more then that without meeting up, just fyi. Well a year or 2 back that was fine, but these days not so much. I really have issues trusting most people here these days.
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This just proves you can't fully trust anybody on this forum. Ask yourself the question, if you were trying to buy or sell 100,000 bitcoins or a similar ridiculous amount would you trust anybody on this forum to escrow for you? I'd rather do a face to face meet but carry a gun for protection That is pretty obvious I would only trust certain people here with up to maybe 50-60 BTC. I really doubt anyone here escrows 100's of BTC without meeting up.
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Sock account Post from your real account or do not bother.
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It does not matter who pays for the escrow. A financially rational person will care about how much money leaves their wallet (or how much money goes into their wallet). They will not care that a portion of the money from/to the other party goes to an escrow service.
Right, especially when you're the escrow service that the other person is blithely paying into. I think I can see how your philosophy works and I'm pretty sure it explains a lot about your character traits we've observed. Lol 5 DT positive feedback so far...soon you gonna have more trust than me at this rate Lets see how high we can bump his score. I agree he probably should not have been negative, but I do not agree with all the given trust to offset it. The Dooglus loan + use of positive trusts etc... To me that is not how I view the trust system to be used. Anyways I am glad it is finally resolved.
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So people now leave feedback to offset other feedback? How is that legit exactly?
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Escrow should be a 3rd party with no bias. Escrowing for yourself via an alt is wrong...no exceptions in my opinion.
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Never mind, Cryfter.com came through for me.
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Well it says UK only and I am USA. Not sure if that will work for me?
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Looking for legit codes for Spotify - I am not expecting some crazy discounts here. I need 6-12 months worth.
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How can you tell? Is there a way of viewing people's trust lists?
add a user to your trust list and you'll be able to see it clear as day. you'll have to exclude DT and remove other users. Can you give more details? Where do I see it? I've added users to my trust list before and not noticed their trust list appear anywhere. Edit: oh, are you saying I should wipe out my whole trust list other than 2 entries, just keeping in the person I want to examine, and ~DefaultTrust? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full - or under trust settings scroll to the bottom and click on "Hierarchical view"
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I can help u with this. We can trade via lbc, fair and safety for both of us
There's really no need for that. Just use a trusted escrow and you won't need to use a third-party website. I agree - forum deals should use forum escrows.
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Pretty funny how people say that BTC-e are shady . How can you trade on an exchange without leaving coins there anyways? I would trust BTC-e over other places like finex (at least you can click stuff more than once and not get owned on BTC-e). Glad this got sorted out though.
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I bid: 1.01BTC
OP you should specify bidding increments to avoid stupid bids. Someone could bid like 1.0100001 etc... (I recommend increments of .01BTC)
Bidding Increment: 0.05 BTC Alright I bid 1.05 BTC then.
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I bid: 1.01BTC
OP you should specify bidding increments to avoid stupid bids. Someone could bid like 1.0100001 etc... (I recommend increments of .01BTC)
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He just needs to request to be added is all.
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You believe that? have you considered the possibility that he made that up to try and get out of a tight corner? Or is your faith in him is so absolute that you are incapable of thinking for yourself? This thread has been fantastic. It shows how far otherwise trustworthy people would bend their morals rather than admit that they were wrong in their judgement (TC, Blazedout419, Blazr, xetsr). Credit to Vod for being able to see this with an open mind. If anything it would have been easy for him to fall in the same pattern as you as he is tageted so much. How have I bent my morals exactly? I clearly stated that escrowing for yourself would be wrong. I can not say that Panthers and QS are one in the same. Please explain where I have done something that is even slightly immoral. In a neutral position you would've looked at the situation and evaluate. In this case your belief in QS makes you arrive at Ah good I really did not think he would do that as he knows better.
even though he hasn't said that clearly. The irony in this situation is that you believe in QS, and he fooled you into giving him feedback on two accounts, essentially abusing your default trust position. I am sure if you didn't have full faith in him you would have realised all this long back. The feedback he earned from me was not from any sort of abuse. Read the post I made that you have quoted... "looks to me he did said no." - I replied to that statement. This is why I try to avoid replying in these type of threads. I have nothing to even do with this situation...yet sock accounts are trying to drag me into it and question my morals
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You believe that? have you considered the possibility that he made that up to try and get out of a tight corner? Or is your faith in him is so absolute that you are incapable of thinking for yourself? This thread has been fantastic. It shows how far otherwise trustworthy people would bend their morals rather than admit that they were wrong in their judgement (TC, Blazedout419, Blazr, xetsr). Credit to Vod for being able to see this with an open mind. If anything it would have been easy for him to fall in the same pattern as you as he is tageted so much. How have I bent my morals exactly? I clearly stated that escrowing for yourself would be wrong. I can not say that Panthers and QS are one in the same. Please explain where I have done something that is even slightly immoral.
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