The forum does not price BTC in USD is why that has not changed. 50BTC is 50BTC regardless of the current $$$. I really doubt they will ever change the amount as it would not be fair to the people who paid it.
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Honestly i trusted him before 100% as an escrow because of lots of positive trusted.
I keep seeing people saying how much they trusted master-p. I have to ask... Why? What is it you found when doing due diligence on him that made you think he could be trusted? Has he created anything? Is there some project he's been running for the community? Has he paid back owed debts before when things have gone bad? Has he displayed a higher level of knowledge about Bitcoin? Looking at his trust history, prior to becoming an escrow the trust he received was for very small deals involving digital products. Even by member rank which is the most crude of trust tools the guy is only a hero. What did he do to earn your trust? Once again, the problem here isn't escrows or the trust system. It's users blinding following others off a cliff. The same thing that has decimated the Bitcoin securities market. Please people, at least make an effort to determine if someone is trustworthy before sending them your BTC. I see as a result of this scam, some users are now trying to push a mult-sig escrow network. While at first this appears to resemble a good idea, I believe this guise of security is only another trap that will lure users into escrows with trusted names, only to have 2 of the "trusted escrows" steal everyone's funds. Please do not fall for this. All you need to do is look at my escrow thread, or the dozens of PMs from random alts that I've gotten on the subject over the last couple months to see that there is a real push for multi-sig escrows by users who are trying to bait trusted escrows into providing a more secure service only to rip everyone off. Let this be the warning. I would be interested in hearing who you trust on the forums with coins? I would say you are easily the top trusted escrow here.
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People get added really easy if they are useful. Most people here just do not need to be in the DT network.
If by really easy you mean working your ass off finding scammers for about 4-5 months(QS) or waiting for 1-1.5 years just posting regularly and tagging the "normal" scammers(Vod) then yup everyone its real easy Without those requirements...why would someone be in it? maybe because someone are trustworthy ,if it is called "Trust List", those requirements more suitable to list called "scam hunter list", or "virtual police" I do not hunt scammers and I am added by several people...for being trustworthy. Who do you think should be added to the list that has not been here for a long time?
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Im speaking with the owner via email and he will be making the 1st weeks payment to those owed. The campaign will be running for week 2 as well as originally planned. Thx everyone for not freaking out and a big thank you to coinbet for honoring the agreement
Honestly, I think yahoo is trusted enough at this point to hold coins for these campaigns. After the Master-P thing...who knows anymore. Edit: I think escrowing should be handled how I do Lucky's campaign though. I hold 2 weeks worth of payments in escrow and they make the payments. The escrow is only needed as a backup in a worst case scenario.
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People get added really easy if they are useful. Most people here just do not need to be in the DT network.
If by really easy you mean working your ass off finding scammers for about 4-5 months(QS) or waiting for 1-1.5 years just posting regularly and tagging the "normal" scammers(Vod) then yup everyone its real easy Without those requirements...why would someone be in it?
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miffman: How much does the 100btc Casascius bar weigh?
It says 4.2 ounces on the original casascius site. That's about 120 grams. I recognize that Bitnickel Good luck with your sale! Thanks! Fun Fact: The bar stamped with 100BTC weighs more than a blank bearer bar!
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Sadly trust not left by DT members doesn't really count. I've also got 3 or 4 positive trust feedbacks but none of them really count as those users aren't on any DT list.
They may be promoted to DT one day, so their trust still matters... right, but probability very low almost how to win the lottery ;DT1 very rarely change their trust list, unless remove somebody.. Sadly trust not left by DT members doesn't really count. I've also got 3 or 4 positive trust feedbacks but none of them really count as those users aren't on any DT list. I don't trade on here any way but it would have been pretty cool for everybody to see me in green always you can add them to your trust list to see... People get added really easy if they are useful. Most people here just do not need to be in the DT network.
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Alright added some pictures... Willing to pay above market rates for any pgp chained tenths...offering market + .5BTC - 1BTC
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What are they going for? still loaded in it's original case. I may be tempted to sell this if it's worth the right amount, anyone pm offers? will not sell without escrow! Located in Canada.
No idea without pictures of the coin. Assuming it is untouched maybe 2.25 - 2.5 would be my guess.
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I'm not going to bother with sifting through all the trash here.
There are a lot of idiots in this thread I'm not even going to bother addressing.
brave words from someone so seriously fucked up how about you stop the trolling and troll feeding and start addressing actual issues. For those who keep asking why I couldn't post any announcement here that I'm going away, etc. is because I did not intend to have to be away from the forums for this long. My plans was to be able to log in remotely to complete escrow tasks once or twice a week.
the problem is not that you went away but that you're now contradicting your own earlier excuse - something about poor internet/wifi whatever so did you or did you not have reliable remote access? when did you found out you were hacked? you have to admit the fact that you only announced the hack after two weeks and after all hell broke loose looks and smells extremely fishy Dude, hello?? This is not Master-P. It's a troll. Don't be so fucking gullible. You don't know that... Just wait the 2 days and see what happens and go from there. If after the 2 days he does not prove that it is him then Techshare will dox him.
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Real-master-p you can verify it is you to me if you like. I have his info (first/last name and shipping info). I want to believe you so send me a message. I would assume I am trusted enough to verify with...
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Well, I doubt a few of the escrows would want to provide their info and rightfully so. I really do not know what the best solution is as they all have their issues.
I dont know either, its a tricky one. Agreed... Thinking I am probably better off just not bothering to escrow. I do not make much doing it and it is always time consuming.
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Well, I doubt a few of the escrows would want to provide their info and rightfully so. I really do not know what the best solution is as they all have their issues.
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What a mess this has made with Master-P pulling this crap. Before this issue escrows worked pretty well here and now I think users will try to not use escrow as much. I really hope people do not get scammed due to this shitstorm...
As franky1 is well known for frequently saying: - snip - DO NOT TRUST ANY SERVICE OR PERSON THAT YOU CANT FIND, TO SLAP WITH A WET FISH
If you give your bitcoins to an escrow provider, the escrow provider should first be willing and able to provide you with enough information to prove their identify and to visit them if necessary. When I provided escrow services, I always provided enough information to identify and find me. Surprisingly, I was never asked to prove that identity, but would have been willing to if I was asked. If people value such a service, then they'll be willing to pay appropriately for it. If they're willing to pay appropriately, then there will be trustworthy people that are willing to provide such a service in exchange for an opportunity to be rewarded for their trustworthiness. Unfortunately, I found when I was offering the service that it wasn't very valued by most users. As such, the few pennies a month that I made in tips wasn't enough to justify the amount of time and effort that I was putting in to securing funds and facilitating agreements. I am starting to think that escrows should be vetted (I know JohnK used to handle that back a few years ago). Maybe have an admin or someone extremely trusted verify identities?
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well about my newbie account eden1 : the negative is from a loan request i made ~2 years ago
Regardless you shouldn't be offering escrow and especially under these cicrumstances. eden1 is also banned so this is evading. Escrowing is a hassle anyways...run while you can!
And this is why it's always baffling and suspicious to me when people seem happy to offer such a service and all for free. What's in it for them other than to try build up feedback quickly (which is the wrong way to do it)... or is it just an easy way to get people to blindly trust them with money to then run off with an amount they like? If people can't trust master-p etc then they certainly can't trust op. I only started doing it to help the community. I obviously do not need more trust/feedback lol... The funny part is I never really have to use escrow myself as most send first to me. I was actually considering either charging like most of the rest or just stop doing it.
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What a mess this has made with Master-P pulling this crap. Before this issue escrows worked pretty well here and now I think users will try to not use escrow as much. I really hope people do not get scammed due to this shitstorm...
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Escrowing is a hassle anyways...run while you can!
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It is getting harder and harder to trust anyone here. I myself could have fallen victim to Master-p as I would have trusted him for smaller amounts like yourself. Unfortunately the way his account was sold would be impossible to have known about
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No sig spammers = dead forum end of story.
I strongly disagree with this statement. We would definitely lose a huge amount of posts, but the overall quality would significantly improve. I am 110% onboard with that. The problem is the admins are not so it is a moot point. Personally I get a flat rate of .5 per month regardless of posts. I would be happy to give that up for a better forum experience. Our only hope is the campaigns adopt strict poster policies and ditch the paid per post.
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No sig spammers = dead forum end of story.
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