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2381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 09, 2014, 09:51:25 AM
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True, but in many cases they were still worth more than BlackCoin's market cap in much less time than that.  Plus the original post was referring to Zuckerberg who was 23 when he became a billionaire, was only 20 when he began Facebook and was already worth much more than BC's market cap by the time he could drink legally.  Of course, if it weren't for him - the twinklefloss twins wouldn't have their money either, and wouldn't be players in the Bitcoin biosphere today (since almost all their money came from suing Zuckerberg).

tl;dr young/old, polished/rough, experienced/naive... doesn't mean shit in the information age.  Innovation, insight, and drive are really all that matters - and a little luck never hurt anyone either. Wink
Diffrence it that if someone want to sell all BC at once he will get about 10% of market cap i you want buy all at same time it could be 10 000x more than current market cap.

Innovation - hype but it won't last long since all can copy your solution -while real companies have their "coppyrights" - that one kill value of many coins which brings something new.


Lets take Microsoft to crypto world:
Windows is successful in next week new re branded product comes out "Doors" - same product with Green pulpit all people are buying it because original one is to expensive.
with hope that some day they will sell "Doors" for bigger price than original "Windows"
But Doors dev sell Doors and run away with money.Same time Windows eat market lost. - same situation with every new edition.
2382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 09, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
What happened to the other thread?
Blowed up by trolls.
But seriously there was about 500 last pages full of whining(~60% of conntent)... at the end threats -> so rat4 closed that shit storm party.
To not let anybody get hurt simple.
Some people crossed red line.
2383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 09, 2014, 08:41:20 AM
How much BC did you guys get with X11? I'm still on scrypt.
11-13Mhs (3.5 scrypt) and 25-35-50-30 BC dayily on cryptoalts p2p pool blade87
i have 0.2$/1Kwh power cost so better to mine x11 -50% power

http://www.cryptoalts.com/stats/?miner=BDVzHDnFyht4Dpic16wp4CP3R8TPF2rDW7
2384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 09, 2014, 07:01:47 AM
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Steve Jobs Co-Founded Apple at the age of 21
Bill Gates Co-Founded Microsoft at the age of 20
Richard Branson Founded Virgin Records at the age of 22.


 Huh  I'm confused.. it seems that you made my point... or at least reinforced it.  Except that I was wrong and Bill Gates is not an exception then, and was in fact an unemployed kid.

So Apple, Microsoft, Virgin Records, Google, and Facebook were all started by unemployed kids... well, I guess it's a good thing that they were A) too young to make rational decisions when they did this, and B) created companies that never went anywhere and aren't successful. Cheesy

They werent giants at beginig they started rissing in next 5+ years after earning a lot of experience in buisness / development.
They started from "eg" and to be full chicken -  it took a lot of time till they get on eg. stock exchanges.
How much 5-10 years ? So then you land in 26+ ^^ range
2385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 09, 2014, 06:26:06 AM


Actually, the whole foundation as of current have only about 250,000 BC in holdings personally, divided amongst the 5 members.

sweet,a foundation with 250k bc....! it seems you are a bigholder too!!!and when you cant agree that is a problem i cant help you.thought you are a bit smarter,or tell me something about greed??talk with the bigholder and work with them to bring the foundation on the number 1 adress or it will be hard to find serious investors.thanks a lot
he got most/all money from donations for hard work - same rat4 main code dev...

"tell me something about greed?" - haha nice try that was HARD WORK if they done shit noone would ever donate them you - need deal with that.
There was 0 prmine.

They have started with 0... and Soepkip was even hacked once...
btw number of top 1-15 90% are various exchanges
2386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 08, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
.....The Black Hand may be the only organized group with access to inside info, but it is not the only group trading on BC and maybe not the only one dumping on BC.....

Do you saw Max twit about Blackcoin ?
- connect facts someone is building position he need some good market share.
If Max and followers will start pump it will hit 1$ ^^ then fontas and rest will join that will be wild party.

This is how "the same" has stayed since the PR announcement: 33678, high (immediately upon announcement), 29500 (current). With minimal volume also.
Kicking ass indeed.
And that's not even counting the "effect" of the launching of The Foundation and it's site.

Do you know that 50% of coins have already foundation this is not game breaking news.

we need news
Like eg. Obama bought 500k BlackCoins for fammily Cheesy...
Or Obama recived 100k BlackCoin from community Cheesy - haha
hype bum and PUMP
2387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 08, 2014, 10:32:16 PM
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i only have like 4k lol, but i has a wallet :]]]
belive me not many think that way.
Look eg at Cinni today  it had over 4000k BTC volume
Market cap = 1,9m while volume $ 1,5m
In same time only 1664 unique addresses.
So i think that 70-80% people keep coins on exchange. Volume they have higher than Doge+BC+...
2388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 08, 2014, 10:23:56 PM
the first 20 adresses in richlist owns over 30millions BC!!! that is not a good thing...sorry.the big holder have to support the foundation in the next few weeks or i  cant trust this coin anymore.
you should not forget that the exchanges have wallets, hmm?
Does anyone know how much coins are on exchanges est.?
-20-30% IMO - small/middle holders won't bother even to download wallet.
2389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 08, 2014, 10:16:59 PM
"3. Maintaining investor and media relationships
The foundation publically represents Blackcoin, the community and the developers. The Foundation is a central point of contact for all parties interested in Blackcoin."

_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

- I don't like that part it looks like we are trying to centralize something which is decentralized by default.
BTC is growing fast because BTC foundation not trying to centralize it and never will be.
Many projects is runned parallel because no one can RULE BTC ind this is growing evolving on their own.
Foundation only trying to help get business to community but this is not only one way.
I can just ask you kindly to change sound of that sentence because it look bit to autocratically for me.
....
I would change that statement to something like that / i am not native english speaker but look at both statements:
...

The foundation will try publicly represents Blackcoin, the community and the developers. The Foundation can be considered as central point of contact for all parties interested in Blackcoin - we will pay many effort to fulfill both roles perfectly.
Community can make their projects on their own but we believe The Foundation can help organize and back up your hard work.

VS

The foundation publically represents Blackcoin, the community and the developers. The Foundation is a central point of contact for all parties interested in Blackcoin."
 


2390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 08, 2014, 09:11:31 PM
wow nice site

REQUEST VOTING IN CLIENT BY Nuber of shares
like:
<1k BC 1vote
<10000k BC 4 vote
<100000 BC 16 votes
Something like that.
2391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 08, 2014, 02:53:16 PM
FUD............not needed here

Why don't you tackle him in the thread he is in ??
Becouse that was not BC thread :
here he is so pro for BC supporter and elsewhere he put shit on it.
I don't like that when people betray something in such cheap way.
He can not be trusted at all that is why i wrote that one.
He was BS supporter now he acts like biggest enemy...

Anyway you need to understand that alt are moving upt on p&d.
Pump are ok where you have good news = new investors.
No news and after pump you are back to starting price or lower...
2392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 08, 2014, 02:46:39 PM
+1
BlackCoin
2393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 08, 2014, 02:43:57 PM
Move on guys, there is no HOPE here at BC

Move to CINNI

hehehehehehehehehe
to be burrned Cheesy becouse of empty pump in 2 weeks cini in 10k-15k area Tongue

I prefer my BC. I play dice game on other coins now.
2394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 08, 2014, 02:35:31 PM
.....

Keep going
troiste:
"
As I said I'm not here to talk about BC this is the Cinni thread...
But, they will kill BC, they have no ideas, no vision, its just another coin like any other for me from now on.
It will sink. I don't own Cinni, but I'm thinking about getting into the boat, I just need some solid reasons, not just because the price is going up... thats why I'm asking.
The real manipulators of BC are those that bash down the work of others just because they don't control it... the real manipulators are the ones that close a thread so they can get rid of those that have different opinions or visions from them.
The real manipulators are those that are inside the Foundation, just because they are whales and not because they have a true vision. These are the manipulators.
Iconic placed the BC price where it is now, ask yourself, yahoo news, blackcoincard, VOS... he was the only guy fighting for that coin like no one before for any other coin
Its over... I already got over it, and if you don't get over it you will regret later when that coin is below the cent.
"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg6612567#msg6612567

_______________________________________________________________________________ __________________

......

I don't turn back from BC you can... but if you want go away do it with class and don't trow shit around on BC.
If you will do you will be just asholle that is all. Currency will survive no mater how you BS on it.
I will be very happy when you swith to Cinni Cheesy - but their dev delate allmost all negative posts so
hard time for you.


2395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Cinni | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 08, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Whats the reason behind the pump? Any relevant news? Or just a "random" pump?

asia failed... blackcoin asks for money for a campaing.. people lost trust and switched to cinni.

Is the only reason really BC?
Well it's also just a very good coin. It was IMO undervalueded for quite a long time and now it just has it's 5 minutes of glory Wink
Will see where it will settle

So for what I see there isn't really any news behind. Cheesy

Dump will come soon... I'll buy after the crash Wink
But was there for example sth behind with BC? In fact no. It was also just a good coin (yes with PoS, but it doesn't really matter for pump) for quite a long time undervalueded. Then boom and pump has happened. It always works this way. Cryptoworld is all about P&D and there are no exceptions.
 
LOL:
-BC was 1st POS after short POW part while rest was POS/POW hybrids like PPC.
-USB Blackcoin card + software - (little pump at 37k from 25k last one bounce)
-1st alt paying mooltipool - that caused 1st and 2nd pump wave
-Coinkite(paymant terminals) - 4-5 pump vawe
-very good dev rat4 (proved flaw in POW/POS hybrid and made successful test attack on Mint ) - 3rd pump wave
-PR  campagain (1st one was little but always, now incoming professional one)
-KNC TITAN 250Mhs miner event
-... some more things Dogecon,Meedblack,BC lottery ext... and more

Yea BC raised for "free" like casual p&d...
2396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 08, 2014, 11:57:37 AM
There still hasn't been any proof whatsoever and people are following blindly..
edit: I'm a sheep meeeh


its fuckin obvious. your the one that is blind. just look how 'they act now. and how they acted last 5 days.
anyway I'm not concerned since i sold 90% of my stash at the pump that came after the big dump.  Cool

Ok tell me then what are your arguments on why the people who spend everyday making Blackcoin better are manipulating the price downwards?
It makes 0 sense.
There is not real manipulation...
number of wallets in not increasing fast so we not rise to.
We haven't accomplish any goal after blackcard... so why price will constantly rise ?
When BTC is constantly falling ? Even 100% POS nxt is gainig + - 10% and they want deliver trading ascents ?
2397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 08, 2014, 11:36:43 AM
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I could be wrong, but i would bet on IE exited bc on the last dump like during last hour. He will announce on Friday that due to (insert any conspiracy/corruption theory) in bc, he has exited and now found a new shinier coin (insert any coin name) and will support that.

I might be wrong, and I hope I am as I would rather see IE fulfilling his promises to his followers

This will probably be deleted asap, but then again that shows that I am on to something and his core-crew is screwing the followers over.



Do you seriously think that switch will be succesfull Cheesy ??
Do you remember that he switched from Mint to BC...
Everywhere people remain the same but names are changing.
Sooner or later he will face with same problem in new community I am 100% sure.

He can create new fraction of BC and this is good step in decentralization IMO i like that ^^.
More groups we have the better we are and harder to take down.

I am not follower of anyone no IE neither Soepkip - i will support both 95% community will...
Only 2 people requested to charge back donation for event THIS IS Meaning something...
2398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 08, 2014, 11:24:55 AM

2. It doesn't matter who posted a picture of my 15 year old daughter, it was done on behalf of the "dev" team. Soepkip and rat4 should have publicly denounced the action and apologized. There are just some lines you never cross. Even organized crime has an unspoken rule of no women and children. I would have denounced the person immediately and I would have banned the idiot who posted the picture from IRC. So I lost any little respect I had for that group.

3. I find it hilarious and even a bit disconcerting how stupid people are when money is involved. For nearly a week Soepkip has not supported my Wall Street event, and today after everything that happened he is all for it? And not one person there question his motives? Did I go to sleep and wake up in bizarro world? Even I am confused....


@2:

There are some idiots on this world and allways will be.
Rat4,Soepkip I don’t belive that they touched finger into post and posting your photo family.
Rat4 was so pissed so he closed thread - simple.
They can’t  apologize for something that they didn’t do.
Some those 200+ guys on irc are from mixed coins Cinni WC DRK… ext.
Lets be honest fault is somewhre in middle on both sides.


If I were you I would just shut up you know that silence is gold and speech is silver.
Yes sometimes is very hard to just shut up… but when emotions are driving you you are lost.
1st I would deliver cards create hype then try get money for Wallstreet event simple tactic game.
And you would get money in 5days Tongue...Simple


@3
“today after everything that happened he is all for it? “
Once more WC hired already PR company – so it looks like we are not best at gathering money – Upsss

We have to create something unique and you are able to deliver it IMO so all should STFU and help you a that simple.
Anyway he trust you...Do we have to play more or war drums ? I don't think so.

Even if you just want cash out some share on Wallstreet pump Cheesy - i think you should get profit from your work if you deliver Wall street idea.
2399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 08, 2014, 10:26:54 AM
if i had to make a guess. iconic is dumping his bc and moving his investment over to cinni. the whole iconic thing was handled poorly by this community. this stock is going down.. couldnt be worse timing.
If there is a connection i would assume that someone is dumping the BC price in order to get cheap BC when the CINNI dump is done.
You don't really expect someone to hold CINNI at 40k, or do you?

its unfortunate.. but cinni has a better chance of holding at 40k than bc currently.. and can hold even higher.. with only 15 million coins its a no brainer. is this the end of blackcoin?
Coinmarketcap ^^ - and pump for nothing look here in 3 weeks. Cinni 8k-15k range i guess.
BTW BC is holding top 9 possition like hero.
2400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 08, 2014, 09:55:49 AM

well, i can only tell what happened to me...
what was quoted/repeated from my post wasn't in any way suitable for FUD or harming anyone, so might have been different cases.

on topic:
anyone else waiting for that ridiculous CINNI pump to come to an end?
As buy-black mentioned, it does not only take away volume, it is also partially done with dumped BC, after 24 hrs of no dumping at all it started again excatly with the CINNI pump.

Yeah you could be right, who the heck knows truly.

As far as Cinni is concerned, I wouldn't worry too much about it-- take a look at their github https://github.com/Cinnicoin/Cinnicoin -- compare that with the official BC github, specifically look at where it says "commits." 4 vs 3k -- somehow I don't think that Cinni is much of a threat-- I just hope the dev can maintain the coin so investors don't get burned like we've been seeing.
Are you joking Cheesy ?
Why they were pumped ?
^^ for nothing so probably they will be burned soon too look at Dev,Uno empty pumps we all know how such action is ending.
BC just got new investors so we have new flor.And we jumped from 9000-30000(but it was multipool - coinkite - blackcoincard something was played by dev community to create hype)

NEXT imprtant thing about Cinni:
1585   JaHnsLaWqcQ47LjBnzPJ5UrqCnHjWZBPoU   1.00000000 cinni (0.00 btc / 0.16 usd )
http://coinia.net/cinnicoin/getbalance.php?top=1600

So Cinni has ~1600 unique adresses las time i have checked  before pump they has ~2000.
3 day of soft fast instamine hurts now.
All guys from BC should be care now cinni in top 20 for realy nothing(special) this is predictable how is gona end that pump
i hope you will be able to pull out on time.

Anyway some new about Wallstreet ?

PS: Look at sheme usualy pumps end at top 10-20 coinmarket cap and then pff FLT,Aurora Cheesy and this is end of pump. - my small tip for community
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