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2421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 25, 2019, 03:44:05 AM
No, fuck you. This is America

This is what you sound like:



They're not entitled to transparency. Fuck 'em.....

Why not?

I just posted why. You cut out the part that explains it. You don't suddenly get to change the rules just because you are upset about something.

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Republicans knew they would be turned away from the closed-door deposition; only members who sit on the authorized committees are permitted to sit in on the sessions...

In reality, more than 45 House Republicans — nearly a quarter of the House GOP conference — already have full access to the depositions through their membership on one of the three panels leading the impeachment inquiry. During the depositions, Republican lawyers are given the same amount of time to question witnesses as Democratic counsels.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/impeachment-republicans-trump-055688

So the idea that Republicans are being cut out of the process entirely is simply absurd.

Almost all House and Senate committee meetings are open to anyone, period. That means you and me, not just other Congressmen. Some are closed for obvious reasons, like secrecy matters. So this is really following the protocol for classified meetings, but without any national security issues.

That's pretty weird. I grant you that the Republicans on the committees have the typical privileges of the minority party in committee operations.
2422  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Best way to combat the cartels: Legalization of Drugs on: October 25, 2019, 12:40:10 AM
People don't understand this, espically with Marijuana in the US. People are already using weed in the US and we know that, it's not something thats hidden. Though when people talk about legalization all we hear in the news is how all the children are going to start smoking, more car accidents, etc.

Peopel don't get it. These people are already smoking and they just want to do it without having to fear arrest and then prosecution.


All these arguments against drug use are totally just as applicable to alcohol and tobacco among other things. The arguments against marijuana are just down right fraudulent in this context as it is far safer than either of those. Nanny state aside, drug prohibition is not constitutional. During alcohol prohibition they had to get a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol. Why? Because they government never had any authority to restrict it. The same goes for illicit drugs, but they just skipped the whole pesky constitution thing that time. The drug war itself has done far FAR more damage to the USA and the world than drug addiction EVER could have. You can go to the doctor and go get prescribed pharmaceutical grade meth, drink a 5th of vodka, and go shoot some guns, and no one would blink an eye. However if you have a condition that you use legal medical marijuana for, well then, they will kick in your door and take your firearms, because God knows those crazy potheads will kill themselves or others, even if it was weeks since they last consumed any THC.

The drug war is nothing more than a racket, and civil asset forfeiture is one of the primary motivators to keep drugs illegal. How else are police going to buy those shiny new Dodge Chargers with the sweet camo vinyl wraps if they don't get to rob anyone who carries cash and just label them a drug dealer? Also if the drug war ended, vast numbers of law enforcement from federal to local agencies would have to cut back staff because their main revenue sources are from drug interdiction, specifically marijuana. God forbid we don't have standing armies across the nation arbitrarily stripping people of their rights in the name of "the children".

Assuming people listened to you and did what you request, do you have any idea how many people in the DEA would lose their jobs? Look, they've got families to support and bills to pay. They have house payments and car payments coming due, and a country club and golf membership. What about the kids they promised a trip to Europe? What about paying for college? What about their monthly bill for cable TV? The bill for the Internet, for crying out loud!!!

That's not even counting the huge cash into the local court systems from those deadbeat, no good stoners. The lawyers get a share, the court gets their part, the probation office gets their fair share, all from someone who was doing something they knew was wrong in the eyes of the law. These people all have a pretty good life. You'd take that away, and likely put lawyers and judges out on the street, panhandling for spare cash.

What in the world do you think police, judges and lawyers should be doing? Actually going after violent robbers, murderers, rapists and thieves?
2423  Other / Politics & Society / Re: North Korea demands Japan pay compensation for sinking fishing boat - KCNA on: October 25, 2019, 12:36:28 AM
North Korea's foreign ministry "strongly demanded" on Saturday that Japan pay compensation for a fishing boat that sank when it collided with a Japanese patrol boat earlier this week, North Korean state news agency KCNA reported.
The collision on Monday was deliberate and "a gangster act" by Japan and Tokyo should take steps to prevent future incidents, a spokesman for the foreign ministry said in a statement carried by KCNA.
The Japanese coast guard said on Monday it rescued about 60 North Korean crew members from a fishing boat that sank after it collided with the patrol boat that was chasing it out of Japanese waters. ....

This is totally not okay behavior on the part of the Japanese.

The core issue is "excessive use of force."

I do think they should pay for the boat. Think about it.
2424  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Playskool Internet Lawyer Totally Ignorant About How The Law Works on: October 25, 2019, 12:25:23 AM
....They didn't have to invoke executive privilege because IT WASN'T AN ACTUAL SUBPOENA. ....

This has gone on far too long. Basically your position is correct, but I am not sure this minutea has relevance to anything in the real world.
2425  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mother Forcing Chemical Castration & Gender Reassignment of 6 Year Old Boy In TX on: October 24, 2019, 11:56:10 PM

I heard today Rep. Chip Roy is going to put a stop to this nonsense (or already has).
2426  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Zuckerberg's second privacy face off | Politics? We need blockchain-based SM. on: October 24, 2019, 11:55:00 PM
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Lets phrase this a different way then.

Would you rather the government have control over the monetary supply -- through the federal reserve -- or would you rather one corporation, under the scrutiny of the government, have the ability to open their own new currency?

I think its funny watching the government scrutinize Zuckerberg for what he wants to do -- when his whole plan is like a Venmo/Cashapp without using USD. Just a currency that is backed by USD.

His plan is for a currency which knows you, your spending habits, and your geo-location, your friends, everything, owned by a company that is for profit, which has shown a preference for political leaders like Hillary Clinton.

But all of the data that is scraped can be done through scraping data from Venmo, Casapp, Zelle, Paypal and so on and so forth. That's something that all of these companies know about.

What's the issue with having another company step into the ring to bring in some competition?s
They don't have anything like the data FB has on most people.
2427  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 24, 2019, 10:10:22 PM

They're not entitled to transparency. Fuck 'em.....

Why not?
2428  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Zuckerberg's second privacy face off | Politics? We need blockchain-based SM. on: October 24, 2019, 10:08:52 PM
....
Lets phrase this a different way then.

Would you rather the government have control over the monetary supply -- through the federal reserve -- or would you rather one corporation, under the scrutiny of the government, have the ability to open their own new currency?

I think its funny watching the government scrutinize Zuckerberg for what he wants to do -- when his whole plan is like a Venmo/Cashapp without using USD. Just a currency that is backed by USD.

His plan is for a currency which knows you, your spending habits, and your geo-location, your friends, everything, owned by a company that is for profit, which has shown a preference for political leaders like Hillary Clinton.
2429  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the things you hate about Islam! on: October 24, 2019, 10:06:41 PM
Of the little knowledge of Islam I had, it was one of the progressive religion of it's time to start with.
Religion were made as a rule of conduct so that people would do the right things and be afraid to do wrongs. But subsequently it was used by rulers to enforce their power over the citizens. For that, they even misinterpreted the words and traditions to suit them. People revolted and we came up with laws to guide everything and also the religion.
But that didn't happened with Islam, rulers even enforce their rule with the rudimentary religious laws. Christianity was no better in the 17th century.

There are plenty of exceptions in Islam following people and countries. It's also the environment that influence people but still, Islam now is the largest group of brainwashed people in the world, They are obsessed with their god. In 21st century, almost all of people would agree that they'll go with what they feel right than what their religious leaders would say. Not with Islam, who still believes it's good for males to show their face while the females should cover their body.
 

That's a very realistic look at the situation, but I beg to differ in one respect. I think a careful look and comparison will easily show that in the 17th century, Christianity was far, far better than Islam today.

In other words, say at the middle of the Spanish Inquisition, I would argue that the actual practice of Christianity was superior to that of Islam today.
2430  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Xenophobic attacks on Africans by South Africans, what's your take on this. on: October 24, 2019, 10:02:02 PM

I think this issue might get out of hand if it continues. The last time I heard about it,  governments of both countries intervened and it cooled that. This new update goes to show that South Africa hasn't had enough yet. With the way the xenophobic attacks are going, It might turn into a full blown war. War isn't my thing. I just hope South Africans desist from such attacks. Good thing nobody died this time.


A black South African explained it to me once. He said basically, the blacks, coloreds, are all tribal. Different tribes will fight and have hatreds of each other going back a thousand years. The Whites are the peace-makers.

Given the recent Marxist President and his attitudes toward taking everything away from the whites, what you say is not unexpected.

Semi-related, when I was in Durban the Nigerians were the drug lords. Of course that was likely a small percentage of Nigerians and doesn't justify the violence you mentioned.
2431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: are there any Beto O'Rourke supporters here? on: October 24, 2019, 08:50:52 PM
I have a question.
If Beto somehow becomes president and then tries to ban assault weapons with executive order or congress.
How is he going to enforce it?

How do you see assault weapon ban working? Police are going to go door to door and seize all the weapons? What police? What happens to the people who dont turn in their assault weapons?

Okay, I need some urgent help here. I just passed a car that had a BETO sticker. So there is at least on person left in the world who is a Beto supporter.

What do you think?

Who would have known or guessed? This is an excellent example of a near extinct species of life on Earth. What should be done?
2432  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the things you hate about Islam! on: October 24, 2019, 08:49:28 PM
Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.
2433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Zuckerberg's second privacy face off | Politics? We need blockchain-based SM. on: October 24, 2019, 01:26:04 AM
Earlier today, Facebook CEO -Mark Zuckerberg had another face off section with the US senate over the Libra project https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50152062. Quite tough indeed. I am quite sure the young dude had several rehearsals brainstorming what might possibly come out from the congress woman, Lol. But he did well after all.

Arguments in every of my groups today as some said it is absolutely a political propaganda and some relating it backward as facebook played a huge part negatively in the past US presidential election. That you can as well get more information from #TheGreatHack by Netflix. The senate is of the emphasis that Libra would stage to harbour financial crime and unscrupulous behavior from the users. Follow link to see full gist.
 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50152062

I am forced to think of blockchain technology as a solution to this mess faced by the young billionaire. VID as an example is a video centric social media that uses blockchain technology and protocol to avoid such issues as Mark's. Using ZERO KNOWLEDGE PROTOCOL is one thing that makes it unique. See more info https://vid.camera.

I am yet to agree that US is trying to tame Mark Zuckerberg. I think it is normal trying to defend in the interest of the world.

Libra is an attempt at total control of the population using Facebook.

FB should be broken up, not expanded. Far better, to not even allow it.

Crypto currency should be open and "owned" by no one. Not Google, not Apple, not Facebook. A money system should be available to all, and without any governing body.
2434  Other / Politics & Society / Re: tecshare being an idiot and believing all the fake news. on: October 24, 2019, 12:03:38 AM
...
You seem to want to believe what he has to say when he needs to say...
Okay, that's what I said, yes. That I'd take his word over yours. Why not?
Now do I need to take your word that ... "what he has to say when he needs to say" or do I take his?

Please educate me, O Most Awesome Anonymous Voice of Internet Who Continually Spews Ad Hominem, as to why anyone should take you seriously.

Remember, I'm just some guy that read the transcript and thought it was totally no big deal. Then I noted that you've got to parse grammar and construct particular meaning to one word to get any support for your view. Now there's your assertion regarding the other party saying he wasn't coerced that "he's been coerced and you can't believe him that he's not been coerced."

Really?

REALLY?

I certainly do appreciate your attention to this matter, from the view that there are some REALLY SMART PEOPLE (and OF COURSE you are in that group, I knew that from the very start), who should go through all this and exert serious efforts to deThrone Trump, or anyone such as him, who does not meet the standards of the Really Smart People, who after all should decide for the lowly people of the United States, the low and stupid and ignorant Voters, what they should do and who they should vote for and who they should Hate.

signed...

---Just Another Deplorable
2435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Trump Impeachment Poll: Who's Fault Is It? on: October 23, 2019, 11:57:19 PM
Put one more vote down for SOROSSSSSS!



Do you believe this, or are you just joking or what?

I've wondered about Soros possible involvement in the current debacle, but didn't think it was possible that his group would act in so stupid a way as to create the current divisive and destructive movements as displayed currently by the Democrats.
2436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Journey to the Mars,Elon Musk vision! on: October 23, 2019, 09:47:26 PM
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His vision isn't impossible. But the time period in which the aim is impossible. ...

So he's lying.

Let's keep it simple.
Yes literally,but people who investing or paying for going mars are the stupid and Musk is genius though. Cheesy

So he's trying to get huge amounts of government money for an impossibility.


Not from the government,he wanted to take money from rich people who don't know what to do with their money and got fantasy of living in space or in other planet.

Maybe both.
2437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Journey to the Mars,Elon Musk vision! on: October 23, 2019, 12:10:02 AM
...
His vision isn't impossible. But the time period in which the aim is impossible. ...

So he's lying.

Let's keep it simple.
Yes literally,but people who investing or paying for going mars are the stupid and Musk is genius though. Cheesy

So he's trying to get huge amounts of government money for an impossibility.

2438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: are there any Beto O'Rourke supporters here? on: October 23, 2019, 12:07:09 AM
Doubt it. He's one of those people that isn't going to get much love from anyone on here due to the fact that a good portion of people on here are libertarian / anti government intervention.

Beto is one of those people that is flip flopping on policy - relating to the second amendment which no one is going to be fond of when you're talking about a right that was supposed to have been given to you by the bill of rights.

His campaign is going to end soon, no doubt.

Please no. Keep it going. Please keep it going. It's pure comedy. Just give him a subject and look what he comes up with.

Can we have Trump debate him?
2439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: tecshare being an idiot and believing all the fake news. on: October 22, 2019, 09:14:37 PM
but I'll take the word of the Ukraine president
That's a good little sheep. I love how you guys that tend to believe conspiracy theories pick and choose who you'll believe to just fit what you want to be true. Of course he's going to agree with that. That's what you do when you're being "strong armed". You really have to be naive if you can't see that. I also note you left out the "though" word. Nice attempt at trying to misleading others.

That's a very lawyerly look at just one of several connotations of the word "though" in a conversation. There are several others and frankly that's the very definition of the phrase "grasping at straws."

Not sure what there could possibly be wrong with taking the statement of the man supposedly pushed around over the word of Viper1 (anonymous Internet opinionated). It is what it is. Deal with it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/world/europe/zelensky-trump.html

Ukraine’s president, in his first public comments on the phone call that led to an impeachment inquiry into President Trump, said Wednesday that the call was “normal,” that “nobody pushed me,” and that he did not want to become entangled in American elections.

“I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be involved in the democratic elections of U.S.A.,” said the Ukrainian leader, Volodymyr Zelensky, speaking to reporters with Mr. Trump on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York.

“We had, I think, a good phone call,” Mr. Zelensky added, referring to a call the leaders had on July 25, which is at the center of the inquiry. “It was normal. We spoke about many things. And so, I think, and you read it, that nobody pushed — pushed me.”


End of subject, right? But you really should go back and look at what Trump asked as "a favor." You'd like us to focus on Biden, sure, but THAT WAS THE FIFTH THING ON HIS LIST.
2440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the things you hate about Islam! on: October 22, 2019, 08:59:38 PM
....,I just want you to be open mind and see what is happening everywhere other than what you were told by media.

Please stop that particular assertion.

You have NO CLUE what random people on an international forum are told or from what source.

Some of us do not watch any television, for example.

Many are highly distrustful of what the media projects.

I will tell you though, that in most Middle Eastern countries, incoming news is highly filtered, and things you say or write are very much monitored...
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