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1441  Other / Politics & Society / Re: When will covid-19 disappear? on: May 01, 2020, 03:54:15 AM
Call me crazy but when all facts are analyzed, and I mean analyzed and back tested, there is still 0 << YES ZERO evidence of CV 19 existing.

That doesn't seem very likely to me.

Since it has been fully sequenced, and reverse trasncriptionase testing can positively identify a new specimen. There is evidence of CV19 existing, period.

I'm sure a lot of interesting things will come up after analysis and back testing, though.
1442  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 01, 2020, 03:40:11 AM
Tongue
Now you show in the document you presented, where are the CRIMES THAT HE COMMITTED that he lied about?

Or was the crime the crime of lying? Big difference here.

He was being paid by Turkey to lobby the US gov on their behalf.  He didn't file as a foreign agent within 10 days (felony), and when he did file 4 months later after he got caught, he lied on the Foreign Agent application and didn't include things that were required by law to include (felony).

Let's see the court transcript and the supporting evidence, including full transcripts of the source documents.

There is a HUGE amount of very suspicious behavior in this case, and I will give you a hint. It's not on Flynn's side.

I don't think you understand.  He pled guilty.  There was no trial.  The only court transcripts would be of him pleading guilty, and (almost) getting sentenced where the judge basically asked him a bunch of times "are you sure? do you understand what's happening? do you understand there's no take backs?"

I don't think you understand. This is what's called plea bargaining. There certainly is evidence and there are transcripts. Those would have been presented early in the process.

 In the American legal system plea bargaining is much abused. Routinely, innocent people are put in jail for 3-5 years, being pressured to not go to trial as the DA says he will then seek the maximum term.

Plea bargaining guilty is not actually guilty, so please do not act like it is. This case is not over, and my prediction is Flynn will be free, as he should be. I suggest you move on to stronger issues, but if you want to defend the government's handling of this matter, go to it.
1443  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: May 01, 2020, 02:54:30 AM
...If you are familiar with energy weapons you can pretty much dial in anything from a pin to a massive structure like a building. It would appear to me that the properties of metal are transformed at the molecular level and you can soften it or down right dust it. I'm no scientist but in laymans terms its like taking out the ions that bind the molecules, same as heating when something transforms and changes shape and colour but this is done with radiation and targets specific properties of the materia....
Well now, that's an interesting rant.

So this is done with radiation?

Let's say for a moment, that we don't care about what "would appear to you" to be true. We care about provable facts. Can you be more specific about what energy is applied, in what amounts and frequencies, and what its effects are across the spectrum of "dial in"?

Badecker has a magical material that is so exotic it could only exist in the secret labs of Area 51, and thus argues it must be the US Government behind this.

Is your device similar? Is it from Area 51 or Roswell? Sounds very interesting. If enemy planes, ships or tanks come at you just melt them, or turn them into dust.

It is obviously similar in that it advocates an anti-American propaganda such as would be done by Iranian interests. By the way, can you answer one thing? I've never gotten a good answer to this. Why would someone ram planes into the Towers, and then immediately blow them up(or melt or turn to dust with your sci-fi weapon)? That's kind of like cutting someone's head off and then shooting them, right?


....Why are you so hung up on eight grade level math, physics and chemistry?

Because that shows how crude and ridiculous the theories you spout are. That's really how bad they are.

It puts it all right out in the open. You and I are not debating at the level of senior engineers or scientists. We are not debating at the level of undergraduate engineering students.

You are debating with me, and I am refuting your arguments, with science and math at the level of children.
1444  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF on: May 01, 2020, 02:41:54 AM
franky you shouldn't be correcting anyone. you're a broken fact checker. all states have said they got the directive to assume and presume

look it just gets worse, mutliple funerals home admit on video no checks, no tests..

each time you put your foot in your mouth, a real piece of evidence emerges from top investigative journalists that say opposite.

I dare you to explain this.. its straight up queens NY on the record saying no checks..

BOOM! Funeral Directors EXPOSE Death Certificate Frauds Behind CV Death << -- Next News Networks reporting on a project veritas piece.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/

Notice the title is plural ?  Frauds,Directors meaning this is not a one off piece and its happening everywhere.

to correct badecker yet again about the death certificate fraud

a death certificate is not classed as a covid death if its listed as symptoms of gun shot or cancer or anything thats not known covid symptomology

badecker and bigtree are using old scripts from january when good symptomology was not really known.
(yep badecker cannot grasp the concept that its april not january)

a covid death has to have ARDS, pneumonia. and also how scans and tests that validate it. AND the patient receive treatment for it.

they cant just write covid positive on a corpses toetag
its just not how hospitals work

even if someone is covid positive but dues of non covid symptoms. its not a covid death
badecker/bigtree have no clue and obviously not dont the real research
I have zero problem with a conclusion that what you say is true in some places and times, and what franky1 is saying is true in other places and times.
1445  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 01, 2020, 02:38:58 AM
Now you show in the document you presented, where are the CRIMES THAT HE COMMITTED that he lied about?

Or was the crime the crime of lying? Big difference here.

He was being paid by Turkey to lobby the US gov on their behalf.  He didn't file as a foreign agent within 10 days (felony), and when he did file 4 months later after he got caught, he lied on the Foreign Agent application and didn't include things that were required by law to include (felony).

Let's see the court transcript and the supporting evidence, including full transcripts of the source documents.

There is a HUGE amount of very suspicious behavior in this case, and I will give you a hint. It's not on Flynn's side.
1446  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 30, 2020, 08:21:12 PM

Fact. Your 9/11 theories have been defeated with eight grade level math, physics and chemistry.


Your eighth grade level math, physics and chemistry, definitely isn't eight grade level math, physics and chemistry. How do we know? Because eighth graders who have learned eight grade level math, physics and chemistry, will tell you right out that they don't know how their eight grade level math, physics and chemistry could bring the towers down.

Have you figured out what this means? It simply means that you don't have a clue what you are yammering about, right? But we knew that already, didn't we!

Cool
I'm not concerned about what various types of 8th graders could do or might do, but what the level of presentation in textbooks allows and does not allow. For example, calculus is not possible with this level.

But you wouldn't even know the implications of that. And yet again you've misrepresented others' statements. I did not say anything about ...

"eight grade level math, physics and chemistry could bring the towers down."

We are discussing refutation of crackpot 911 conspiracy theories using 8th grade math.

Please stop the lying.
1447  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 5G Has Dual Use As A Weapons System on: April 30, 2020, 05:04:29 PM
Dr. Buttar talks about the actual health effects of 5G and EM radiation in general in a very real and grounded way @11 minutes.

"Dr Buttar Accuses Fauci, Gates & The Media For Using COVID-19 To Drive Hidden Agenda"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbf9wccdxE

Dude. I want a ray gun. 40 megawatts, handheld, portable.

How about a 100W ray gun this guy built in his garage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6FbUiiwutQ


Cute how you blur the lines between hard wired and portable systems though in lieu of an actual argument.

I could settle for that.
1448  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 30, 2020, 04:43:58 PM
Spendulus your arguments are a kick in the balls to the thinking man..  it's truly flawed to the core, you jave no basis in anything other than the governments engineers said so.. well do you know how govt works, it asks you for the answer it wants, and if you don't give it they just go the next engineer or doctor until they get it. If you don't ackowledge this you will be wrong all your life as you have put your faith in the governments engineers, who are usually so bad and corrupt that only the governement wants them.

I somewhat agree with that, but the Challenger inquiry was led by .... Dr. Feynman ... so your statement of opinion ... Well at least it's true in your own mind?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYPapE-3FRw



the towers did not collapse, they turned to DUST and then collapsed.. I know, it was the jet fuel right.

Why don't you dump some gas on metal and concerete and see if it turns to dust.

But you win, because you have the governments report. Why even take part in this thread if you're too scared to look past CNN.
No gov report needed here. I'm doing 8th grade science, goofball. From first principles.

You want to talk about how and why concrete turns to dust, go ahead. Be prepared to NOT acknowledge you were defeated by a superior and trained intellect but instead ...

"Okay, I was beaten to the ground with junior high level crap. Boy was I stupid. I definitely need to find some better stuff to smoke."
1449  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 5G Has Dual Use As A Weapons System on: April 30, 2020, 04:41:41 PM
Dr. Buttar talks about the actual health effects of 5G and EM radiation in general in a very real and grounded way @11 minutes.

"Dr Buttar Accuses Fauci, Gates & The Media For Using COVID-19 To Drive Hidden Agenda"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbf9wccdxE

Dude. I want a ray gun. 40 megawatts, handheld, portable.
1450  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 30, 2020, 02:29:28 PM
Do you think Flynn did these things: https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

Funny, with how much weight they are putting on what Flynn said, there is no actual transcript of what he actually said included. Interesting huh?

Initial pleading by Gov?
1451  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 30, 2020, 11:47:51 AM
Been reading a good amount about the massive $2.2 trillion stimulus package. People are praising Congress for getting it done so quickly, as it is pretty crazy they were able to agree on something like this so swiftly. The issue is in what really matters, which is the execution of the bill itself.

The big part of the stimulus package was the Paycheck Protection Loan (PPL) which has been under fire recentley for giving too much freedom to the banks to not be equal in their processing of applications. In simple terms, banks were processing the applications of their wealthier clients first. There's also the issue of big companies receiving the PPL, when small businesses were heavily left behind.

Real shit show.

And then Trump and Mnuchin acted surprised and offended that rich people would dare take as much free federal money as the rules allowed.

That's going to be funny scene in a movie one day.



Oh that part is the part that's annoying me. It's also on the members of congress who wrote this bill and passed it, as they're also complicit in this happening as well. Everyone in Congress (and Trumps office) knows that you could've set stricter limits on this program but they didn't do it on purpose. Sigh.

Hopefully people that truly do need it get this money, instead of some huge companies that really are just trying to starve out the competition (smaller businesses) of funds that they needed yesterday.

Let me know when you hear of someone that truly did need it who got it.
1452  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: April 30, 2020, 11:37:37 AM

Na, but Tecshare seems to be buying into the whole 'gotcha' mentality that most of the right wing media is pushing right now.

I mean yeah, FBI fucked up.  And yeah maybe Flynn will get off bc of it.  But treating the guy like a victim because 'they didn't tell me it would be illegal to lie to the fbi about crimes I committed'...really?


CONSPIRACY SITES! CONSPIRACY SITES! RIGHT WING MEDIA! SWAAAAWK!

It is pretty pathetic how much you rely on character attacks. If the FBI interviews me and I tell them I ate a ham sandwich at 12:15, and it was really at 12:18, I can be charged with perjury against the FBI. If I tell them I put mustard on it and it was really mayo, that is another perjury charge. This is a well known strategy the FBI uses to railroad people when they have no evidence to support other charges. This was a political prosecution for a process crime. Of course people like you prefer to reject reality and substitute your own as long as it confirms your bias. It amazes me with such tiny nuts how you still have the balls to still try to support this Russia collusion delusion after everything that has come out.

Do you think Flynn did these things: https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

Regarding "where they didn't tell me it would be illegal to lie to the fbi about crimes I committed"

Item #2 is there to assert that the issues presented have material relevance to something important, and I do not see at all that they had such relevance.

Now you show in the document you presented, where are the CRIMES THAT HE COMMITTED that he lied about?

Or was the crime the crime of lying? Big difference here.


1453  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 30, 2020, 02:45:32 AM


  hey, let's watch some TV:

                         https://youtu.be/_nyogTsrsgI

              https://www.ae911truth.org/

No, how about...

Let's not watch some of your anti-American, Iranian propaganda.
1454  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 30, 2020, 02:43:57 AM
Been reading a good amount about the massive $2.2 trillion stimulus package. People are praising Congress for getting it done so quickly, as it is pretty crazy they were able to agree on something like this so swiftly. The issue is in what really matters, which is the execution of the bill itself.

The big part of the stimulus package was the Paycheck Protection Loan (PPL) which has been under fire recentley for giving too much freedom to the banks to not be equal in their processing of applications. In simple terms, banks were processing the applications of their wealthier clients first. There's also the issue of big companies receiving the PPL, when small businesses were heavily left behind.

Real shit show.

Like I said, 98% pork.

.....
Likely that 98% never left DC.
1455  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: April 29, 2020, 03:43:48 PM
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My TDS makes me think Trump says whatever he thinks will make him look good (or his opponents look bad) with very little regard for the truth.  Even at White House Press briefings during a national crisis.....

I don't think it's that calculated or cunning. Perhaps it's more like a very brilliant but half autistic person that blurts things out sometimes. I'm okay with that because I have had the privilege of working with several scientists who were somewhat similar, and know the personality profile.

Anyway, it's certainly not the sort of cold, calculated lying such as that by Hillary on say Bengazi, in which there's total disregard for the deaths of innocent people.
1456  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 29, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
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firstly i read about DRG before your rebuttal
i learned about all the ICD-10 and drg months ago when badecker started his crackpot conspiracies.....

The chance a smart British guy could understand American health care reimbursement schemes in less than about twenty hours of pain and misery is zero. It's like passing through multiple doors, and going through each muttering "It can't possibly get any stupider than this."

Yes, it can.

well its a good thing that badecker started his conspiracies months ago and because of lockdown i have alot of spare time on my hands.
i didnt just research it in the last 24 hours. i knew about the ICD-10 death certificate recommendations ages ago. death certificates are filled out with all the symptoms that affected the patient starting with the final fatel one. and it includes as much detail as possible including scans and treatments given.

then when the financial conspiracy started ages ago. i also looked into that. i did not see any strange extremely high difference between a non covid ventilation and a covid ventilation. only small amounts which can be attributed to common sense stuff like the extra precautions needed.

and it just made it more funny that silly faux media present it as a hospital gets a standard 'package' payment' of a fixed sum based on an overall death certificate scribble..
sorry but no. each treatment has its own costs and each treatment also has different grades depending on if it was easy/complex.. and also each treatment is billed per day not just a single payment whether patient is treated for one day or 2 weeks..
oh and different days have different levels of payment.

so i find it extremly hard for a hospital to try and recoup costs for comatosed ventilation for 14 days if the person only have a nasel canular for 2 days

but hey if its happening. then america is more screwed than people think

have a nice day though folks.

This is the part of your post that matters...

...if its happening. then america is more screwed than people think...

But also, if some guys that know this rather miserable subject tell you you can't possibly understand, you need to listen to them. It's rather like someone saying they understand p/np. No, they do not.
1457  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 29, 2020, 03:33:37 PM
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Oh, oh. Now you are starting to say that you are one of those paid disinformation agents.

Cool
Now you are making things up, and relapsing into ad hominem arguments ...
Coronavirus is just another government power grab, just like 9/11 inside job was. Personally, I believe that we will be able to get our freedom back, if we wake up and stop trusting people in government.


This Is A Power-Grab The Likes Of Which We Haven't Seen Since 9/11

....

Cool
...and attempting change the subject.

Fact. Your 9/11 theories have been defeated with eight grade level math, physics and chemistry.


1458  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 29, 2020, 03:15:45 PM
..
firstly i read about DRG before your rebuttal
i learned about all the ICD-10 and drg months ago when badecker started his crackpot conspiracies.....

The chance a smart British guy could understand American health care reimbursement schemes in less than about twenty hours of pain and misery is zero. It's like passing through multiple doors, and going through each muttering "It can't possibly get any stupider than this."

Yes, it can.
1459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: April 29, 2020, 11:41:06 AM
Quotes and citations needed. No selective editing, omissions, opinion pieces, Snopes, or paraphrasing please.

None of that would matter.  Any quotes or citations will be mislabeled, misconstrued, and misinterpreted, possibly on purpose.  Trump Derangement Syndrome is a single-minded rage that obscures rational evaluation of Trump's actions, and focuses on the negative.  It forces those who suffer from it to go above and beyond the exaggerations of his comments, so far as to fabricate meaning that bolsters their bias.  It is specifically a bias towards bias.  

One would think that with a pandemic gripping the world, Americans could put aside partisan bickering and see that the President has done a good job.  He's certainly not perfect, but who among us is?

Maybe you're right.  I hope you are actually.  It really sucks hearing the president say these things during day after day during the WH Press Briefings during a time like this.  It's like a part of me is thinking 'wait, he's the president...this can't be real'...but then it just keeps going.  Sometimes I think I see him ramble on for hours of mostly nonsense.

Do you know of a cure for TDS?  I want to see our president act competent.

Can you help me sort the TDS from reality on something?

I remember seeing Trump say nice things about China and how they're handling the virus before it got bad, but now I seem him saying it's all Chinas fault for ruining the perfect economy he built and he's going to send them a bill.

Which one is the TDS?  Or is he even talking about China at all?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1225728755248828416
Quote
Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days. Nothing is easy, but he will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone. Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!

this tweet actually say:
Quote
China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!

For the last two months, things have been changing almost daily. That includes our knowledge of the actions of countries, as well as our understanding of the facts regarding Covid-19. Of course you can find contradictory statements by the same person.

Trump's style of speaking extemporaneously certainly may have sometimes confused things at least in some peoples' minds.



1460  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 28, 2020, 03:48:00 PM
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Don't you see what you are really saying? American inside-job people paid off Iranian disinformation agents to trick everybody into thinking the impossibilities of 9/11 could really happen the way the official report says they could.

Cool
Don't waste anyone's time trying to be clever and think of some way your conspiracy theory might still be true. You really are sounding more and more like foreign anti-American paid disinformation.
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