freefall speed of collapse, 3x. yeah, 10 seconds quarter mile high to hit the ground (ZERO resistance from existing massive steel columns)....
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i do find it sad how badecker has no conscience and no compassion for those that do get hurt by events
I got a friend whose high rise apt is close to one of the NY hospitals, he has told me about watching the bodies loaded into the refrigerated trucks. Now watch the conspiracy theory extend to faking that. |
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Inb4 some one pushes ol' senile Joe out a window and they pull a new contender out of their ass for the Dem nom at the last second. Either that or he dies 30 seconds after inauguration, they kick over his corpse, and swear in his VP.
Or what they'd really like, to swear in the Speaker. |
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..get to the finale lightbulb moment where he has been duped and has to admit he is a bored troll. but taking the long route i see it taking him 3+ years to get to that point
He and I have been through these discussions before, but apparently he's forgot. |
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a 747 uses 36,000 gallons on a 10 hour flight. =~$62k fuel a first class seat for a 10hour flight is ~$4k they only need 12 first class passengers to cover the fuel. put this into prospective The Transportation Department imposes a fine of up to $27,500 per passenger for planes left on the tarmac for more than three hours without taking off (four hours for international flights). Aviation fuel may range in the USA from 3$ to 7$ per gallon, in Europe it can be much, much higher. No way 36k gallons is 62,000 US$ or Euro$. |
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well if you think that everyone in china is suddenly immune due to the first wave and the crisis is over?, then the model your following is not a realistic model
yes what i say is not good news for the economy.. but this aint about the ecomony this is about human life
the economy is screwed whether now or in 2 years. so the only real thing to be concentrating on is the health impact and the methods of reducing risk/amount of death counts spiralling
yes models are not perfect utopia.. but then when is reality utopia
No, what you've described is not a model, it's more or less a one dimensional look at the problem. It's simply not accurate. To get it better, take some random samples of the % population that has antibodies to the Covid-19. Don't go with the presumption that you know or can guess that number from prior statistics. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-11/bay-area-coronavirus-deaths-signs-of-earlier-spread-californiaAs for the economy, the way that gets screwed is not by facts but by peoples' attitudes. If the people think everything is hopeless you have huge problems with the economy. |
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With what is happening now in the world, not just in the US, Democrats or liberals or Republicans... it doesn't matter. The main thing is that they are healthy
Soon enough we'll start hearing the drumbeats of the anti-Trump propaganda, somehow based on the Coronovirus lock downs and issues. That's who they are, that's what they do, so that's what they will do. And just like with Bush Jr. and Kavanaugh, at the last minute they'll have some total lie with heavy media exposure. That's what they do, and how they do it. |
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badecker thinks everything is a movie
its like he is stuck watching the matrix, not realising there are other things in the world. but he just wants to watch the first matrix movie over an over and want to review the first movie.
having no clue about anything else
Notice the attempts to misdirect the conversation from hard-to-argue-facts? yea. badecker doesnt understand anything beyond the scripts he has read. he comes back with the same old stuff repeated over and over. not an original thought of his own. I'm still waiting for an explanation of why ram the planes into the towers, and then explode them. Of course I'd also like to see a demo of nano-thermite (a made-up fantasy thing of course, with mythical properties) mixed in with concrete and the resulting mix passing engineering tests on site, then being exploded decades later. |
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badecker thinks everything is a movie
its like he is stuck watching the matrix, not realising there are other things in the world. but he just wants to watch the first matrix movie over an over and want to review the first movie.
having no clue about anything else
Notice the attempts to misdirect the conversation from hard-to-argue-facts? I said, "Wait, the wtc7 was OVER THREE HUNDRED FEET AWAY!!!! How could falling debris hit it? Oh, I forgot. Those MASSIVE 22T BEAMS THAT FELL OVER 500 FEET AWAY! But really heavy stuff from the towers coming down couldn't have been the cause of WTC7 being weakened even though really heavy stuff traveled twice as far, because SHUT UP." |
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Did bill gates create coronovirus? No, but Iran and China have created thousands of Internet forum sock puppets, attempting to soy disruptive influences and confusion. They like to use nonsensical concepts, like "Did Bill Gates create Coronovirus."
Pffft! I became aware of JIDF in association with their operations at wikipedia in what must have been 2004 or so, and clearly it was going strong by that point. Anyone remember Aaron Barr and what he was cooking up at HBGary Federal? Zionists own this space and have more-or-less since the early days. When a Left Winger says 'Russian' what they really mean is 'Israeli'. The sad thing is that most of them are to stupid to even know this. --- While I am here, here's a little vid which is about the most unsurprising thing ever about Mr. Gates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_NLAnm7bCY&t=69sAlmost all of these people are Lucifarians/Kabbalahists at some level, but it's hard not to look at Bill Gates and not think straight-up Satanist. Did bill gates create coronovirus? No, but Iran and China have created thousands of Internet forum sock puppets, attempting to soy disruptive influences and confusion. They like to use nonsensical concepts, like "Did Bill Gates create Coronovirus." Or even better, "It's hard not to look at Bill Gates and not think straight-up Satanist." |
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the fire seen on the east side of wtc7 was not the damaging factor. that was just fire
the debris hit on the south side was the damaging factor
when u see the video footage. you see the south side fall first and then the rest goes down in response....
Wait, the wtc7 was OVER THREE HUNDRED FEET AWAY!!!! How could falling debris hit it? Oh, I forgot. Those MASSIVE 22T BEAMS THAT FELL OVER 500 FEET AWAY! But really heavy stuff from the towers coming down couldn't have been the cause of WTC7 being weakened even though really heavy stuff traveled twice as far, because SHUT UP.  |
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I would expect the simple exponential increase to be modulated by the %population that somehow already had immunity. Example, current rate of spread LA vs NY.
but where for instance wuhan alone has 11m population but not even 110k population with it.. means only 1% of population have had it and recovered. which means this 'exponential' rate so far is just the start of a curve that could have gone 99x more before hitting the tip or in short if they lockdown release every 2 months. it would take decades to get through the whole population with the modulation curve down not occuring for many years. definetly not in the first year too many people think this 3week-3month isolation period is the end of it. its not after all why would London be making hospitals in april if they wanted the curb in april.. people dont realise the hospitals is for the next wave its why they giving people on social security extra income per month, not just for 1-2 months.. but the whole year its why people cant be made homeless for a year its why they are asking ex hospital staff to come back to work/rehire. not for this first wave. but for the next one UK had 4k ICU beds initially. and they hoping for 40K+ for second wave. this would allow them to not have to lockdown so fast and hopefully get 4-5 months of productivity/economy running and atleast try and get a couple percent exposed in that time without hitting capacity. one fatal flaw i see if governments dont let the numbers settle so that health workers can take a break and have a few days off.. and just re-energise before opening up the populous to exposure they will be double exhausted in a few months That's not a realistic model of virus spreading. |
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When you see this, you wonder how many things are hidden inside Windows 10, and Windows servers, just to give Gates more power. Go to the article and check the links.
The Scariest Thing That Bill Gates Just Did During This Period of COVID-19 PanicHe doesn't think in terms of freedom for others, especially since he has the money to easily pay for getting the freedom he doesn't want others to have.
In fact, it is clear he doesn't want others to have freedom.
He wrote on Tuesday of this week in the Washington Post:
"Through my work with the Gates Foundation, I've spoken with experts and leaders in Washington and across the country. It's become clear to me that we must take three steps.
"First, we need a consistent nationwide approach to shutting down. Despite urging from public health experts, some states and counties haven't shut down completely. In some states, beaches are still open; in others, restaurants still serve sit-down meals."
What a power freak. First, it is questionable as to whether restaurants should be shut down but why would you want to shut down beaches when there are plenty of indications that vitamin D from the sun can help in warding off viruses?
And as the Washington Times points out:
This — from the guy who practically controls policy at the World Health Organization...  Did bill gates create coronovirus? No, but Iran and China have created thousands of Internet forum sock puppets, attempting to soy disruptive influences and confusion. They like to use nonsensical concepts, like "Did Bill Gates create Coronovirus." |
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Yeah I agree with @Spendulus, 18 months is really long time. I can't imagine if US really implemented that's regulation, there will be bad and long economic crisis in the world, not only US.
And maybe dollar will be worthless since US will do money printing to pay the corona crisis and debt.
Then we'll be trading lite coin for beer in those black markets. |
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I do not see why outlawing large gatherings should be acceptable, if each and every person admitted to that gathering work a facemask.
You mean a full hazmat suit? A face mask is not enough in a crowd of random people. You think? Aerosol spread would be reduced by the joint probability of Mask1 x Mask2. Not saying it's perfect. |
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heck its nothing new or big deal
many protesters just walk into places and do a sit-in. chanting 'we-shall, we shall not be moved'
this is not to actually cause any change or to 'get their day in court'. this kind of act is to get some click bait and hope to gain some followers.
but your less concerned or knowledgable about what if anything changed due to it, but just wanna kiss ass and follow because he got on tv for 15 minutes
I do not see why outlawing large gatherings should be acceptable, if each and every person admitted to that gathering work a facemask. |
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That's impossible. In the US, after a while and regardless of laws or edicts, people will just go back to their normal lives. If businesses remain closed, huge black markets will develop. |
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5 best case way to relax the restrictions
1. bring the curve of people getting it. down to manageable numbers
- with a 2.6 spread rate. if the infected number at isolation relaxation was 1000. it would be 2600 in a week 6700 in fortnight
- with a 2.6 spread rate. if the infected number at isolation relaxation was 50. it would be 130 in a week. 338 in fortnight
- 878 week 3, 2284 at a month 5940 at week 6.. thus giving more time to prep for next wave
2. those who are unfit and wont fair well if they got it, should remain isolated
3. contact monitoring those who came near those infected. and isolating them quickly.
- this can bring the infection rate down to 1.3 or even below 1 compared to 2.6 without any tracing/isolation..
- depending how fast they can trace and isolate people before they themselves pass it on
- if they can get 50 initial infected contact traced. where only pass it to say 1.3. it wil be 20 weeks before 6k cases
- faster they can isolate to bring it below 1. the better.
4. dont allow regular flights/border crossing with countries which still have many cases spreading in the wild
5. ramp up ICU be resources and capacity.
these things can be combined to get to hopefully a point of not needing to jump into another lockdown for 6 months+. or without doing it, lockdown again within just weeks
I would expect the simple exponential increase to be modulated by the %population that somehow already had immunity. Example, current rate of spread LA vs NY. |
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So, what's left.
Everything except what paid Chinese and Iranian disinformation agents would want to assert was the cause. That rules out explosives and your inside jobbers. If there really was a pay-off, prove it Says the guy who has blurted out a dozen miracle cures for coronovius while simultaneously claiming it doesn't exist. Just reporting on what works. The idea that 9/11 wasn't an inside job doesn't work. What doesn't work is your blurting that insane crap, and what also doesn't work is the miracle cures. |
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....Talking snakes...
Talking snakes? What do they sound like? Squeaky? |
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