Some people actually believe they are having a powerful influence on events by posting on forums like this. I don't. I know I am just an observer.
Though we are on different sides of the political divide, I appreciate your ability to be reasonable. And I agree with you here: we are all pretty much just wasting free time, which most of us have a lot of at the moment. I just personally think Tara Reade is a non-issue considering who Biden is running against..... Thanks. It's not like Trump needs to gain more issues or talking points to have a huge electoral victory over Biden. He doesn't. So I agree with you on Reade. Reade really serves as one more example of the Left/mass media perverse insistence on "one set of standards for us, another for you guys." |
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Anyway on this I agree with Splendy . Its a useless argument, who's the bigger rapist. Bill Clinton a 25 time visitor to Lolita Island probably beats both....
Really, it's just a debate topic to deflect attention from Dog Turd Biden. Makes me laugh because people doing this have closed ranks in solidarity with Democrats. Why? Go work on local elections, do something that will actually have a result. Some people actually believe they are having a powerful influence on events by posting on forums like this. I don't. I know I am just an observer. |
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And the evidence is in the debris, or lack thereof. The tower just dissappeared. I know 100 stories just burns away in 45 minutes because of grade 8 math.
Didn't you have a problem with the Mystery of the Dust? Like, all that concrete turned into dust and you figured this required something in the order of alien ray-guns? |
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In a deposition during divorce negotiations Trumps first wife said Trump raped her and ripped out her hair. I heard about the claim by his ex, but I think that's largely been dismissed as a lie to get more of his money. Wikipedia has this to say about it: his then-wife Ivana made a rape claim during their 1989 divorce litigation but later recanted that claim But I don't know, maybe wikipiedia is right-wing conspiracy website. 
An author also accused him of raping her in a dressing room in the mid 90s.
Are you talking about this accusation by Jean Carroll? Really now? Curious that you didn't provide these citations that took me two seconds to find. 
Anything out there with evidence as compelling as Tara Reade's claims? Arguing Trump Orange Man Bad vs Dog Turd Biden is a miserable waste of time, but it is certainly interesting who rises to the challenge. I wonder why. |
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Dude. I want a ray gun. 40 megawatts, handheld, portable.
Go out in a lightning storm and hold up a metal pole. The base units for power are kg*m^2*s^-3. When lightning strikes the amount of power transferred through, say, a helicopter blade is comparable to the amount of power consumed by the whole rest of the United States combined...for a brief period of time. Very brief. As a matter of fact, confusion about the power vs. energy (hint: the ^-3 vs. the ^-2) is the way 'they' in the telcom industry get around the regulations most of which were set a long time ago for different technologies. They 'average' across a long period of time which does not take into account peak power levels of a pulsed signal. Think of it this way: - If over one second I lift you up by the arm to stand on a plank 3 feet above the ground, any problem? Nope. - now if I use the same amount of energy but put half the power in in the first 0.005th of the second and half the power in at the last 0.005th of the second, what happens? You lose your arm. Ripped right out of the socket. No difference in the amount of energy applied over the one second time frame. Big difference in the effect on the body. When 'they' rightly point out that a smart meter puts out a pretty modest amount of energy over the course of a day and thus it cannot be harmful, they are being deliberately deceptive. They are not saying that it is in tiny bursts of high magnitude. You would not even feel an 5.56 round from an AR-15 'assault rifle' if it hit you over the course of a 24 hour period. If I tried to tell you that it's OK to get shot by one because the total energy is minimal compared to that expended in walking up a flight of stairs I would be being deceptive. Wow, that's really scary. So if we take apart one of the 5g transceivers, we are going to see some very big capacitors within very specific time constants. Oh...wait...we don't... |
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That's the whole point. When you analyze 9/11 using eighth grade level math, physics and chemistry, but you analyze in different directions than the way you are analyzing, you come up with demolition. ...  You come up with demolition, virtually nobody else. You have repeatedly made that claim in these 15 pages and been knocked down every time. Every single time. By refutations at the level of children's science textbooks. Claiming demolition is just an Iranian, Anti-American propaganda effort. Or maybe Saudi. Now you are telling us you have multiple personalities.  How is your magic weapon you fantasize was used to down the towers coming along? You know, that magical form of thermite that your theories require was put into the concrete way back in the 1970s? We'll know when it is used on some more of the buildings. Great, meanwhile, a conspiracy theory that requires a magic weapon to make it work is even worse than one that is defeated by math at a child's level. |
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That's the whole point. When you analyze 9/11 using eighth grade level math, physics and chemistry, but you analyze in different directions than the way you are analyzing, you come up with demolition. ... You come up with demolition, virtually nobody else. You have repeatedly made that claim in these 15 pages and been knocked down every time. Every single time. By refutations at the level of children's science textbooks. Claiming demolition is just an Iranian, Anti-American propaganda effort. Or maybe Saudi. Now you are telling us you have multiple personalities. How is your magic weapon you fantasize was used to down the towers coming along? You know, that magical form of thermite that your theories require was put into the concrete way back in the 1970s? |
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Imagine if Hunter Biden ....
No, not interested in playing that game. Are you through now bitching about things OTHER THAN what Flynn was charged and convicted of, with gross prosecutorial side malfeasance? Do you put any effort into being objective? I mean, you can't really think it's not a big deal for someone powerful to act as a foreign agent without disclosing it...and lie about it when you get caught....can you? Do you think this should be ok? I think you know it's really fucked up but you just can't bring yourself to say something bad about the guy. Let's look at one memo by those agents that framed Flynn. The hand scribbled memo says this, “What’s our goal? Get him to lie so we can prosecute or get him fired?”Have fun defending their actions. I know you would so much like to change the subject. https://hannity.com/media-room/smoking-gun-see-the-disturbing-fbi-memo-on-flynn-whats-our-goal-get-him-to-lie-so-we-can-prosecute/ |
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Spendy you're a weak distractor.. you keep asking questions which have no end or are designed to go in circles. The short answer to why is because that's where the evidence leads. If you follow evidence you reach the same conclusion and gr8 can't help you here. You're still talking planes but that's old news.. no planes whatsoever. Not 1 plane was used on 9/11, both American Airlines and FBI provided evidence. AA cleared their name by showing there was never a flight 11 from anywhere on the books and FBI released footage at the other site showing no existence of planes. The plane is a overlay at TWC, bascially 8th grade video editing. It is needed because that's the whole catalyst to cover for the energy weapon and to point the blame on the so called pilots, which was the whole purpose of 9/11 to continue wars in the middle east without pesky congress getting in the way. After 9/11 , just as with CV19 ,, the sheep believed the media and practically begged for war. The demolition is to cover for the lack of evidence of planes. If you just used explosives and blamed it on muslims, eventually it would be discovered and it would be a tough sell that muslims got in the WTC and planted explosive everywhere without knowledege. If you just used energy weapons and explosives it would again be impossible to blame muslims. The plane story is the crucial factor to achieve what you want, which is pretend we are under attack by muslims Problem. Reaction. Solution. Except in both cases 911 and CV19, the solutions have been planned for 10 years and its just a matter of creating the problem to wait for the reaction and offer the solution. ....its pretty much 9 out of 10 that go with demolition....
Really? Why? And how many go with your magic energy weapon? And why ram the planes into the towers and then use magic energy weapons followed by demolition? I'll have to run all that by my cousin, who'd just walked out of Tower 1 and was across the street at the Starbucks when it was hit. I kind of don't think she'll agree with you. But that is a anti-American story that a lot of illiterate Islamsists in Jordon, Iran, and the Middle East would likely be easy to sucker into. So, what's this magic energy weapon? |
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Imagine if Hunter Biden ....
No, not interested in playing that game. Are you through now bitching about things OTHER THAN what Flynn was charged and convicted of, with gross prosecutorial-side malfeasance? If not, keep on posting about imaginary crimes. How about we now talk about the hard copy evidence of the FBI planning and executing an entrapment of Flynn, with the stated purpose being to entrap him into a criminal charge of lying, not to find out the actual truth. That's the operation you are defending. Let's see you defend it, instead of weaseling around, talking about Hunter, imaginary crimes, any and everything instead of the real shit you're in upto about waist level. Go to it. |
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....its pretty much 9 out of 10 that go with demolition....
Really? Why? And how many go with your magic energy weapon? And why ram the planes into the towers and then use magic energy weapons followed by demolition? |
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....I feel like you're just looking for any possible way to rationalize to yourself that Flynn is a victim here. He's not a poor minority with a shit public defender. He's a retired 3 star general that's buddys with the president and he got a great deal considering he betrayed the country.
I'm thinking he must be confident that they won't be able to charge him for any of the crimes we know he did. I'm not sure how though. It just wouldn't make sense for him to do what he's doing if he thought it were possible he'd be charged again. The evidence is overwhelming even without the signed admission. His only option would be to....plea to a lesser charge lol.
Explaining to you the reality of plea bargaining is not rationalizing anything to myself. You seem intent on getting people interested in what he WASN'T CHARGED WITH, which puzzles me. There were some very, very wrong things going on on the Gov side in the items he was charged with, and if justice is to be served, those need to be corrected. Pretty much everyone acknowledges Flynn is a victim here, of improper actions by FBI administrators who have been fired for those exact actions. duh... How much can you be blind to ? |
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... We all already knew that. I think, or I hope we all did. So now we really need to focus on the entrapment and the charge of "lying to the FBI." Because that's what real. If you want to call him a "convicted felon", then that's what you got. No more, no less.
If he finds away to reverse his guilty plea, do you think he should be off the hook for all the charges he avoided by taking the deal? There seems to be enough evidence to go to trial. I would imagine that in a reversed plea deal the dropped charges could be brought back up, if within the statute of limitations. Prosecutors would have to examine that and decide what to do. It would be a new court case and a new trial. But he's already admitted he's guilty of several crimes he wasn't charged with. And even if he didn't, the 4 month late FARA filing was essentially admitting he didn't file within the 10 days required. And it's easy to prove the FARA filing contained false statements. The whole thing is just weird. He wasn't charged with any of the serious crimes he admitted to, and he most likely wasn't going to get any time. He plead guilty bc he got a good deal. It would be like if a cop pulled someone over for a DUI, the guy failed the breathalyzer, but decided to just give him a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt. The guy says thank you, pays the fine and then goes to court to try and get the whole thing thrown out bc the cop was lying about his seatbelt. This is the VERY DEFINITION of plea bargaining. If it's weird, it's weird hundreds of thousands of times per year. Virtually all prisons in the US are full then of people, usually of color, who have gone through this "weird" judicial process called plea bargaining. Are you starting to "get it?" Oh, and by the way, the cop that gave him a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt when he failed the breathalyzer? That cop should be fired, and the guy should have the case thrown out. I would suggest read this summary of the recent events in the Flynn case, and then decide whether to continue to defend the prosecution of Flynn. https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/27/robert-muellers-case-against-michael-flynn-is-about-to-implode/ |
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We all already knew that. I think, or I hope we all did. So now we really need to focus on the entrapment and the charge of "lying to the FBI." Because that's what real. If you want to call him a "convicted felon", then that's what you got. No more, no less.
If he finds away to reverse his guilty plea, do you think he should be off the hook for all the charges he avoided by taking the deal? There seems to be enough evidence to go to trial. [/quote] I would imagine that in a reversed plea deal the dropped charges could be brought back up, if within the statute of limitations. Prosecutors would have to examine that and decide what to do. It would be a new court case and a new trial. |
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....But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump.
This is true of both candidates. It makes sense if you read what he said before that: His only hope of winning now is to paint Biden as being bedridden with end-stage dementia. Frankly, it seems to be working to a certain degree. But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump. Well, I don't agree with that statement. Biden actually does show some symptoms of dementia. And Biden has significant negatives as a candidate. For example, a lot of Sanders supporters are going to just stay home. Blacks for Biden? Really? Then there's the involvement of Hunter with China and Russia. Frankly I would like to have seen a strong, rational candidate on the Democratic side, but you don't have that. Deal with it. Maybe focus on state and local races? |
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Do you believe that Flynn was being paid by Turkey in 2016 while he was lobbying American politicians to support Turkey in 2016?
Do you believe he did not register as a foreign agent until March 2017?
Do you think it's ethical to lobby for another country that's paying you without being transparent about the fact you're getting paid? (On bitcointalk we call that shilling.)
Do you believe it would be wrong to make false statements when filing for FARA? If so, I'll explain the false statements he made if you need.
So you have some things that you think are illegal, that make Flynn a BAD GUY, and these are different than what he was convicted of? He was convicted of "lying to the FBI." After plea bargaining guilty. WTF? He accepted the plea deal so that he wouldn't be charged with all the crimes he committed. But that's the very nature of plea bargaining, to agree to lesser or fewer charges and move the case rapidly through the court system. We all already knew that. I think, or I hope we all did. So now we really need to focus on the entrapment and the charge of "lying to the FBI." Because that's what real. If you want to call him a "convicted felon", then that's what you got. No more, no less. You need to focus strictly on the collection of evidence, lawful behavior of investigators in collecting evidence, and court proceedings for the charge of "lying to the FBI." |
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....But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump.
This is true of both candidates. |
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Do you believe that Flynn was being paid by Turkey in 2016 while he was lobbying American politicians to support Turkey in 2016?
Do you believe he did not register as a foreign agent until March 2017?
Do you think it's ethical to lobby for another country that's paying you without being transparent about the fact you're getting paid? (On bitcointalk we call that shilling.)
Do you believe it would be wrong to make false statements when filing for FARA? If so, I'll explain the false statements he made if you need.
So you have some things that you think are illegal, that make Flynn a BAD GUY, and these are different than what he was convicted of? He was convicted of "lying to the FBI." After plea bargaining guilty. WTF? And I am curious. Why in the world would you present several times, one factoid, then ask "Do you believe..." I would never believe your presentation of facts as being impartial or anywhere near complete enough to make such a decision. In fact, I invited you to post all the transcripts, but you did not. Just more questions and presumptive guilty. Regardless of that, I don't see where you are trying to go with this. This was and is an excellent example of FBI entrapment techniques. Numerous FBI personnel directly involved with that have been fired. Reams of evidence has came out about what actually happened. Have you noticed that this is in the context of, and part of, a "Russia Collusion" investigation done under false pretenses? So what's going on? Are you trying to assert something like, "If he had not plead guilty, he would have been charged with all these other things, which he was clearly guilty of, so he would be in a worse position today?" |
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....Why are you so hung up on eight grade level math, physics and chemistry?
Because that shows how crude and ridiculous the theories you spout are. That's really how bad they are. It puts it all right out in the open. You and I are not debating at the level of senior engineers or scientists. We are not debating at the level of undergraduate engineering students. You are debating with me, and I am refuting your arguments, with science and math at the level of children. That's the whole point. When you analyze 9/11 using eighth grade level math, physics and chemistry, but you analyze in different directions than the way you are analyzing, you come up with demolition. ... You come up with demolition, virtually nobody else. You have repeatedly made that claim in these 15 pages and been knocked down every time. Every single time. By refutations at the level of children's science textbooks. Claiming demolition is just an Iranian, Anti-American propaganda effort. Or maybe Saudi. |
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and the stupidity of some people is amazing
the 'assumed/presumed' is where a covid test is not performed using the CDC own lab (code u0001) but done by the recently set up regional/local lab(u0002) ....
With many diseases, in the USA the CDC requires evidence to be sent to them and they make the actual diagnosis. In the field, in many cases this has been a problem because it delays the diagnosis, correct treatment, and epidemiology numbers. |
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