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2441  Other / Meta / Re: Signature advertisers: suggestions? on: January 21, 2019, 10:36:30 PM
I don’t think theymos will restrict campaigns to those that only pay in bitcoin because of free market issues. This would clearly benefit those who participate in dig deals.

I am not a huge fan of enforcing the “signature campaign guidelines” for managers because it will lead to campaigns being run(managed) off the site when advertisers are banned. This is also why forcing campaigns to pay in bitcoin will not work.

I would note that it is not uncommon for a group of people to wear similar signatures because they hold a similar stance on issues they feel strongly about or want to support similar statements.
2442  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: January 21, 2019, 10:16:23 PM
How come Bitfinex BTC lending rates are so low lately? Around 0.27% today and it's been like that for bit.
Lending rates tend to go down when the price is relatively stable or rising moderately. The price hasn’t moved very much since it fell from 6k to just above 3k.
2443  Other / Meta / Re: Signature advertisers: suggestions? on: January 21, 2019, 07:30:03 PM
I don’t think signature campaigns typically last long enough for the automatic updates to be useful. The subscription tracking might be useful to ensure someone isn’t changing signatures and claim to have worn the signature when they have not.

If what you described was implemented, the forum could force publish stats about the campaign (or manager), such as how many users have been banned while wearing a signature.

It also remains to be my position that the use of signatures (beyond two lines with no special formatting) should be a paid feature to force those who wear paid signatures to have incentives that align their interests with that of the forum.
2444  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT2 SUCHMOON ABUSE.Who voted him into trust circle ? on: January 21, 2019, 06:55:41 PM
regards to theymos' comment that controversial ratings should carry an actual risk/cost by way of a retaliatory rating, and there does not appear to be any risk/cost to suchmoon in this case.

There is nothing particularly controversial about this rating
Except the fact that you admit you don't have evidence beyond speculation to support your claim against the OP.

It looks to me that your rating was more intended to protect a position of power, and was less so about warning others about a potential scammer.
2445  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT2 SUCHMOON ABUSE.Who voted him into trust circle ? on: January 21, 2019, 05:07:48 AM
Being that the OP effectively has no power, any retaliatory feedback the OP gives will do nothing.
The OP is an admitted alt account and registered yesterday.  Do you think he did anything that would earn him any respect/trust/power?
The OP being an "admitted alt" is not evidence of guilt, nor wrongdoing. It is certainly plausible he is an alt of a reputable person afraid of negative consequences for being critical of Suchmoon (the question of if this fear is based on actual instances of Suchmoon engaging in this kind of behavior is another discussion).

No, the OP has not done anything for him to gain respect/trust/power -- this point was made in regards to theymos' comment that controversial ratings should carry an actual risk/cost by way of a retaliatory rating, and there does not appear to be any risk/cost to suchmoon in this case.

All this ignores the fact that the person the OP is being accused being an alt of has negative trust for very shaky reasons in the first place.
If you're talking about Thule, it's not surprising you'd disagree with the trust he got.  He's an account seller, which is what I tagged him for.  Other DT members tagged him for that and for misusing the trust system and threatening behavior.  Anyone reading this is welcome to see for themselves.

No, it should not be surprising I disagree with the underlying rating (at least in regards to the rating you left). Similarly, it is not surprising to me you left the rating you did. You think the sale of accounts allows scams to happen (and otherwise harms the forum), and I believe the sale of accounts makes it more difficult for certain scams to happen -- this is a difference of opinion, and I don't think you leave these ratings to help your business, nor to harm the forum. I am happy to discuss this somewhere else if you wish, however I doubt I will change your mind, and you probably will not change my mind.

I am a little more concerned about the rating Suchmoon left
Quote from: suchmoon sent trust rating
Doesn't seem to be playing with a full deck. Abuses trust feedback and lives in alternate reality. Avoid any deals with this clown.

reference
2446  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT2 SUCHMOON ABUSE.Who voted him into trust circle ? on: January 21, 2019, 04:23:04 AM
It would probably be best for her not to be in a position of authority, as she appears to always side with those with more power in disputes. Also, she does not appear to have any kind of trading history, nor currently is active in trading, which effectively removes any consequences to her receiving any retaliatory ratings.
I would hopefully agree with you on this as @suchmoon has sent a very irrational and evidence less negative feedback on the OP. You just cannot say 2 persons are equal if they have a bit similarity's in spacing and paragraph formations as there are many people here who could have similarly in writing or could have been inspired by others to write in there fashion.

I personally think the negative feedback is fact less and there should be more clear proofs of being guilty before tagging anyone as an alt.
Right, unless there is some undisclosed evidence, the evidence suchmoon has only shows the OP likely lives/lived in the same general area as the person the OP is being accused an alt of.

Being that the OP effectively has no power, any retaliatory feedback the OP gives will do nothing.

All this ignores the fact that the person the OP is being accused being an alt of has negative trust for very shaky reasons in the first place.
2447  Economy / Reputation / Re: Timelord2067 - Repeated trust abuse. Fake accuser. Please consider negging him. on: January 21, 2019, 04:01:51 AM
I won't red him for this. Wouldn't say he is untrustworthy.

However this makes me consider adding him to my dis-trust list.
I have never heard of you, but I like your logic.
2448  Other / Meta / Re: Urgent: Business account with green trust has been stolen on: January 21, 2019, 03:56:20 AM
I re-applied according to the new recovery process through email. In response, I received the following mail.

Code:
Hello,

Thank you for your email. The signed message was successfully verified.
Please note that the email address cannot be restored to a different one other than the original used to register the account. In the situation where that email address was used to create a different account, you will need to change it on the second account as one email address cannot be linked with more than one acount.

Furthermore, we will need you to send us an email from that original email address where you wil also receive further instructions.
Best regards,
Bitcointalk account recovery team

But, I do not remember the original email ID with which my account was registered 5 years ago. Though, I have provided signed message from an address, that was used within one month of account registration.

What am I supposed to do?
It is likely that it is unclear you are the original owner of the account, based on your browser/ip/OS you are currently using, verses what you used when you registered your account.
2449  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT2 SUCHMOON ABUSE.Who voted him into trust circle ? on: January 21, 2019, 03:51:37 AM
Who voted Suchmoon as DT2 member ?

suchmoon: 23
    Trusted by:
        [...](25 people)

Distrusted by:
   [...](2 people)

Have fun convincing 25 members.
I am not sure where you got 25 from.

In order to be on DT1, you must be trusted by 10 people with at least 10 merit, one of which must have 250 merit, both ignoring merit sent by the person, assuming you are not blacklisted by theymos.

Only one person needs to be convinced, theymos, as he can blacklist suchmoon from being on DT1. Otherwise, 15 people will need to remove suchmoon from their trust lists.

It would probably be best for her not to be in a position of authority, as she appears to always side with those with more power in disputes. Also, she does not appear to have any kind of trading history, nor currently is active in trading, which effectively removes any consequences to her receiving any retaliatory ratings.
2450  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lauda and TMAN maliciously abused trust system on: January 20, 2019, 07:21:02 PM
One goal of the new DT system was to prevent these types of ratings.

It seems to have caused them to occur more frequently.
2451  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Lauda/TMAN/minifrij/IronMarvel2/owlcatz extortion attempt on: January 20, 2019, 06:15:46 PM
This thread would soon go to the police once people information is available.

Q.s please let me know if anyone from India  exists.
I don’t think anyone involved is in India.
2452  Other / Meta / Re: Minor selfmod enhancement on: January 19, 2019, 08:24:24 PM

spoting those users abusing the self-moderation privilege on topic and defaulters should be banned from having the privilege of self moderating their topics.
How does one abuse his "self-moderation privilege"? 
Some people use self moderated threads to delete warnings about shady behavior, criticism of the OP (or someone closely related), or questions that make the OP look bad.
2453  Other / Meta / Re: TMAN abuse DT system. Remove TMAN from DT, include him in Blacklist from future on: January 19, 2019, 05:41:02 AM
I initially thought the quote from theymos was faked, but upon investigation it is not. Lol.


The problem with the new trust system is that you do not need to be viewed as trustworthy by anyone that matters in order to get on DT1. This means several people with a little bit of power, such as those TMAN is close with/to, can effectively control who is on DT1, both adding people and excluding people.

I am not a fan of the new DT system however, TMAN and his clique should all be blacklisted from being on DT1, as most of them engage in behavior consistent with organized crime, and best case they are very shady. They often leave many contentious ratings and have done so without consequences.

Got any proof to back up allegations like that?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

I am not sure if you have seen the above thread but there it one example.

There are other examples of them protecting each other and other examples that are not as bad as the above.
2454  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Buzzfeed: Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress per docements on: January 19, 2019, 05:33:47 AM
Its a mess.  The entire MSM piled on to the buzzfeed report before Mueller's office issued the statement.  A huge blow to MSM credibility (whatever was left of it) and a win for anyone who has ever believed in "fake news".
I think it is interesting that no other (semi) reputable news organization has been able to verify the report. This only reduces the chances of the report being accurate.

Many opinion cable news shows that present themselves as news have been foaming at the mouth about this report.

First off, I think Cohen should he held responsible for his actions, whether there are claims of Trump asking him to lie or not. So, if Trump had asked him to chop off his own hand he would do it? Again, I think there is more to it than what the bussfeed is letting out. The White House has a lot of skeletons that there aren't letting out yet.
He has already been sentenced to years in prison for crimes many others wouldn’t face criminal charges for (the tax issues would likely be handed civilly). The lying to Congress is very wrong but many in the Obama administration lied about material things that would not necessarily come out regardless but have not faced consequence.
2455  Economy / Reputation / Re: [PSA] Before you start that next thread! on: January 19, 2019, 05:27:40 AM
I like your stance that we shouldn’t discuss concerns and air grievances.
2456  Other / Politics & Society / Buzzfeed: Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress per docements on: January 19, 2019, 05:24:33 AM
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/jasonleopold/trump-russia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation?__twitter_impression=true

Buzzfeed is reporting that President Trump directed his then lawyer Michael Cohen to lie to congress about the timing of when the Rump Tower hotel deal in Russia was abandoned. Cohen has testified it was abandoned in January 2016 when in fact it was abandoned that summer.

Buzzfeed is reporting that special counsel Robert Mueller’s officer has evidence of this including Trump organization emails and text messages.

One of the two Buzzfeed reporters later said in an interview that he has not personally seen any of these documents. Muellers office has denied this report in that it is saying that Buzzfeed is misrepresenting the description of the documents and that the report is false. Except for court filings, Muellers office has almost never made any public statements. 

If this is true, and the evidence is solid (it doesn’t appear to be), Trump will likely be impeached and potentially removed from office. If this is outright untrue, Buzzfeed will lose any credibility it has left and will likely eventually either file bankruptcy or get sold for a firesale price (a very quick sell, so to say).

I don’t personally think the report is true. It would make little sense for Trump to do this as the Mueller investigation was already underway, so the underlying facts of when the deal fell through would likely have come out anyway and he was already elected and didn’t face re-election for over 3 years at the time.

What are your thoughts on this? Will this erode the Meduas credibility (beyond Buzzfeed)?
2457  Other / Meta / Re: TMAN abuse DT system. Remove TMAN from DT, include him in Blacklist from future on: January 18, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
I initially thought the quote from theymos was faked, but upon investigation it is not. Lol.


The problem with the new trust system is that you do not need to be viewed as trustworthy by anyone that matters in order to get on DT1. This means several people with a little bit of power, such as those TMAN is close with/to, can effectively control who is on DT1, both adding people and excluding people.

I am not a fan of the new DT system however, TMAN and his clique should all be blacklisted from being on DT1, as most of them engage in behavior consistent with organized crime, and best case they are very shady. They often leave many contentious ratings and have done so without consequences.
2458  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Parents Ask for Bitcoin Donations to Newborn Baby in Newspaper Ad on: January 17, 2019, 04:27:04 PM
Wow, I can't believe it. While reading the article and seeing the address, look on how much the baby collected at all. 1 BTC and counting in total as of the moment and it keeps on going.

But using a baby for donation to her college fund, what's her parents do? it wasn't indicated the source of living that her parents do. It will be imitated by others who are pregnant right now, what will be the next reason to fund for their 'bitcoin baby'?
It is interesting because there is no real way of confirming the birth is in fact "real" (unless you otherwise know the parents).

Another issue is this story has gone semi-viral, and it is difficult to know for sure the correct donation address if you wish to donate because it is so easy for 3rd party news sites to forge the donation address of the ad.

I agree. Apart from knowing if the baby is really born or if this is really a cheap gimmick, do we really want to fund baby's future (education, health expenses etc.) in bitcoin?

To be realistic, we don't really know what is bitcoin (or for that matter any crypto) really worth 15 years down the line? This is still a technology in its infancy trying to find its feet. Most of us did not envisage meltdown of cyptos in 2018. I have been following this field for 3 years now and been in this umbrella industry for more than 20 years.

Unless any technology is widely accepted and more importantly properly regulated (which we are still far off in most of the world), there is no way it is going to find a wider acceptance. We may hear of some good news here and there, but wider acceptance will take time.

Wish the newly born a great success & future ahead... Thanks
I would suspect the parents will convert the bitcoin to dollars after some amount of time has passed (from when the ad was published). They will probably either put the dollars in a savings Amin the child’s name or an investment account in the child’s name.
2459  Other / Archival / QS Maggiordomo notification thread on: January 17, 2019, 07:40:01 AM
Thanks.
2460  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Parents Ask for Bitcoin Donations to Newborn Baby in Newspaper Ad on: January 17, 2019, 07:35:07 AM
Wow, I can't believe it. While reading the article and seeing the address, look on how much the baby collected at all. 1 BTC and counting in total as of the moment and it keeps on going.

But using a baby for donation to her college fund, what's her parents do? it wasn't indicated the source of living that her parents do. It will be imitated by others who are pregnant right now, what will be the next reason to fund for their 'bitcoin baby'?
It is interesting because there is no real way of confirming the birth is in fact "real" (unless you otherwise know the parents).

Another issue is this story has gone semi-viral, and it is difficult to know for sure the correct donation address if you wish to donate because it is so easy for 3rd party news sites to forge the donation address of the ad.
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