Using electricity to warm up things (be it a house or swimming pool) isn't cost effective at all, and this is why it's not being used.
I don't think that we will see mining chips in something we use everyday and with other purposes, because it doesn't make economical sense to put them there.
I don't agree with your "we don't need low-nm chips because we will use the heat for other things" point of view.

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Let's suppose that i get rich one day. (This is an hypothetical me, i'm nowhere near that, so don't pm me trying to scam me). Let's say that i have 2M$ (20kBTC). I have all invested into Bitcoin (because i'm crazy) and i want the Bitcoin network to be as strong as possible. I decide that i need to create and to open source to the community a low-nm ASIC chip. I'm ready to invest up to 1M$ into it.

I do that for free, because thanks to Bitcoin i'm rich and i want to give it back to the community.

Do you think that this will actually happen?
If you own that much, why don't you do it?
Is 1M$ nothing in this business?

Per ora si... Aspetta di sapere quando effettivamente spediscono qualcosa di ordinato oggi e quindi decidi...

Ok, i did market orders only today. I'm tired of trading this thing. (i was waiting for a re-entry point since when i sold everything at 110, i kicked myself not to have bought at 78$).
I bought at 122 and sold at 119. I bought again at 121 (5% of losses only for this move?).

Cashed out to a paper wallet, i don't want to see mtgox again for the next 2 months. I reached the 0.29% trading fees, they want me to get addicted. I have other things to do in the meanwhile, the only choose was between staying all in or all out.

Bitcoin conference, lot of positive media reviews, lot of buzz, 40k btc on buy orders from here to 100$, i don't think that this will be another 2011, but this confidence should tell me that maybe everything is out there to convince me to do the wrong choice.

We will see, bitcoin. 2 months from now, we will see.

Batch 2 was paid more than 75btc so I don't see how we should not be "crying"... Your 1 year estimates are fairly optimistic. I should not judge them for wanting to have more than a miserable million? Really?
We will see who was right.

They where already millionaires (batch 3/chips). There was no need to scam us and force their investors to lose money.

I'm a bear in denial.

They said that they will keep the current lineup of chips on sales until at least the end of the year, so i don't think that they will release a lower-nm lineup anytime soon.
I think that everyone was fine with receiving a batch 2 from march to april and a batch 3 during this month, so why going into problems if the roi is finally the same?

Wait and see? I know that i lose money trading everything else on a short term.

And he wrote it in plain english... Well, i enjoyed anyway giving marks on fake parameters...

On a more general way, Avalon and ASICMINER are good if you trusted them back in September last year, now you either get an overpriced product that will never ROI or you don't get anything at all.
BFL is everyone's guess, i don't think they will be able to ship in mass anytime soon, but if they clear their backlog before the end of the year, maybe one could consider to purchase from them.

Do you want my scores? Ok... Will be funny.

Avalon

- Public Relations:  2 (because they update you once a month if they wish to)
- Customer Support: 2 (there is no customer support, you have to beg to have a reply from them)
- Terms & Conditions: 1 ("no bullshit terms and agreements")
- Price/Performance of Products: 8 (they have a good product for this market, good and reliable)
- Delivery reliability: 3 (they only shipped batch 1, their holiday+new smt line+sickness killed the batch 2/3 ROI, it will be negative)
- Assets of company: dunnow, i think that they are already working at their 28nm miner and most probably will be the winner of this races for the coming time


ButterflyLabs

- Public Relations:  6 (josh is a troller, shouldn't have never been the public face of a company. At least Yufi doesn't reply at all.)
- Customer Support: 8 (they have a ticket system, a phone number and they actually reply to you. Amazing!)
- Terms & Conditions: 3 (trying to convince customers that they can't have a refund while they are legally entitled to have one)
- Price/Performance of Products: 8 (whenever they prove to have their 60GH unit working properly, before that, it's all smoke.)
- Delivery reliability: 2 (they have yet to deliver, but i'm surprised that they proved to be able to deliver anything)
- Assets of company: dunnow, if they can start mass producing 65nm chips and hardware however they have a gold mine under their hands


ASICMiner

- Public Relations:  8 (every thuesday you know what happened, updates are never bfl-style and always with enough details)
- Customer Support: 8 (i saw some pdf about the blades with details of their functionality and i saw him answering personally for some customer issues)
- Terms & Conditions: 8 (you get what you paid for)
- Price/Performance of Products: 7 (110nm, but who cares as long as they work?)
- Delivery reliability: 9 (yes with the blades, we will see what happens with the USB miners)
- Assets of company: dunnow, it's hard to guess.

If we stand to these parameters, BFL beats Avalon. However, this is simply an heresy.

Batch 1 was 300 units. They delivered less than 300.
(reading the first line i had to correct you before reading the rest...)

Ok, about the rest... what should i say? BFL deserves a 2 (they have a product and they are not a complete scam, that's strange in this world), Avalon a 3 (where is my order that should have shipped 2 months ago/why you had to create a separate smt line/why is the difficulty skyrocketing/why the continuos delay and bullshit [you started shipping back in april, you shipped 20 units]/why you have yet to deliver a single product paid this year/if you wanted to mine yourself, why asking for our money to create your hardware? etc.., ASICMINER deserves a good rating, they have a good PR and they did the magic with a good capital, they could have run away/claim to have failed, they didn't. They are extremely overpriced, but it's always better to pay a lot (avalon batch 3, 7500$?) and to have nothing back.

BTW.. 320 pages of thread in 20 days?
It's a bubble!

The old one was more than one year old when it crossed 1000 pages...

Amazing!

The wall disappeared in less than 1 second when we hit 114.01000
I'm amused by this ultra low latency.
It was something like 200ms, i was watching it live. I didn't tough it was possible to do something like that... They must have their servers in Japan themselves.

High-frequency trading @ mtgox guys!

Is this technically possible?
Who decides what's the work miners have to do? A central entity, correct? And so, how is a distribuited currency possible?

I'm quite sure that Satoshi tough about this, after going over it.

20kBTC in 5$... won't happen in this market. A retrace to 105 is far more probable...

Dotcom is already in from the low 20s

So, panic buying everyone now?

Do you know Yufi (from avalon) and know that they will dump 120kBTC? Because otherwise, it wont happen (there is really some huge book depth, imo, both up and down).