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2521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 07, 2022, 08:30:09 PM
Actually, some of these are PART of several regional governments! In the case of Brazil, these are supporters of Bolsonaro, the current president.

Brazil... Who gives a fuck about Brazil? Nobody.

This is slightly less crap and random as the picture you show

Yeah it is a random picture where people dressed all soldier and shit and carrying rocket launchers and nazi flags.

You are giving massive credit to a picture of a number of dumbasses that, to be honest, could have been taken anywhere at anytime.

I am not sure who gives a fuck about Brazil, is just an example of how Nazis are everywhere and Putin will have plenty of work. I mean, if he is still there next month.
2522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 07, 2022, 05:47:34 PM
^ None of these people above are a military force funded by the government. They are random crap.

Actually, some of these are PART of several regional governments! In the case of Brazil, these are supporters of Bolsonaro, the current president.

This is slightly less crap and random as the picture you show. The fact is are that the Donbas region is in conflict and that has nothing to do with Nazi ideology and the existance of pro-Putin militias in the area. Nothing to do with Nazism, just with Putin's funded separtism.
2523  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I BUY RUSSIAN TANKS - 100 USD in bitcoin on: March 07, 2022, 05:31:21 PM
There is a new batch of equipment coming in:

https://vimeo.com/685295598

My bid is $120 for the lot, if it includes the rail carriages.

I can give 1000$ for these! Vintage is so in trend.
2524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 07, 2022, 05:19:59 PM
World and Ukraine on March 5, 2022
https://youtu.be/LzCDkLi3xSU?t=20

Independent British journalist
https://youtu.be/F9NWe2kdJBk?t=197

In other news

Luhansk, area 3,234 sq mi, pop 1.5 mil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhansk_People's_Republic
https://glava-lnr.su/
and Donetsk, area 3,437 sq mi, pop 2.3 mil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_People's_Republic
https://dnronline.su/


So Putin, the defender of the Nazi oppressed people of the world is actually imposing to another country how their constitutions should be. You just cannot take the despot mind out of a despot/.


So tired of the "nazi" argument and a "nazi government" led by a jew, that I have decided to give Putin more work....

United Kingdom


Italy


 Brazil


Spain (in which by the way the Nationalists are part of several regional governmetns)


Egypt


Syria (his ally)



And finally, Russia. Seems like he forgot de-nazifying his backyard first!




So.. Putin, are you now going to de-nazify the rest of the world?? Or are you actually Putinifying
2525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Economic sanctions are not a war declaration on: March 07, 2022, 12:08:24 AM
Putin is trying to make economic sanctions an equivalent to a declaration of war. Why this is not true:

- An economic sanction does not kill people (not directly nor quickly).
- Economic sanctions mean simply that other countries do not want to trade with you. That is not fighting, is simply a effect of failing to have a successful relation with the international community.
- Economic sanctions are reversible. It is Putin's hand to take the steps to come back into the international community.


Economic sanctions are an act of war. Their intentions are to coerce those who the sanctions are being imposed on to change their ways.

Obviously, sanctions are not the same as bombing a country or shooting at a country's military. Going from sanctions to actual violence is a major escalation.

You obviously do not understand what is legally a war, and what is worse, you have not bothered to look for any conventional definition of act of war. A word of advice, sometimes using Google is fine.

War -
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a state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country.

Acts of war examples:
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In 1974, General Assembly Resolution 3314 defined and gave some examples of aggression. Article 3 gave, as examples, invasion or attack by armed forces of a state, military occupation, bombardment against the territory of another state, blockade of ports or coasts, action of a state in allowing its territory to be used for preparing an act of aggression against a third state, and the sending of armed bands, groups, irregulars, or mercenaries to carry out acts of armed force against another state...

You see, curiously enough, a number of acts of war were actually committed by Putin against Ukraine even before the full invasion, yet economic sanctions are not considered as such. Coercion or, better said, influencing, is everyday's business in diplomacy and international relations. Everyone would be at war if you consider tariffs and commercial restrictions an act of war.

Seriously, did Putin expect to start a war of aggression in Europe without any economic consequence??

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he is a leader of a nazi regime,
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Oh, just drop it my, you are making a fool of yourself trying this over and over.
2526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I BUY RUSSIAN TANKS - 100 USD in bitcoin on: March 06, 2022, 11:52:20 PM
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Ukraine is obviously in a desperate situation at the moment, but arming your population with guns and molotov cocktails, and telling them they get to keep any Russian hardware they capture is quite a creative approach.

So is Russia. They have no food and equipment to give to soldiers so they're releasing them from the army and telling them to go back home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSU1cMly1GM

On the Molotov cocktails, which I believe are being renamed to "Kyiv Smoothies" (no joke), these are supercheap weapons that are absolutely useless against any more or less modern tank. However they are great at keeping the crews inside their vehicles, which reduces their visibility of the environment and makes them prone to walk into bigger problems. Also, armoured personnel carriers and older tanks are actually a bit more susceptible to cocktails and can actually be disabled or temporary stopped by one.

Oh, for the Russian soldiers, I am not buying a tank or armoured vehicle that is burned or has got hit by a Molotov, a Javelin or an MLAW (nor a drone, nor an RPG) which is likely to happen if you continue ahead. Sell it now or forget 'bout it. Do not die for Putin, sell your tank to me and go back with your loved ones.

You see... easy as this: https://twitter.com/i/status/1499872900140220419
2527  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 06, 2022, 11:13:09 PM
(someo else's conversation, bla, bla,...)

But isn't Ukraine a sovereign nation, don't they have the constitutional right to join any organization/institution they like and feel will be best for the progress and peace of their nation?

Wasn't Iraq a sovereign nation? Where are the sanctions against the US?

Most of the wars of the US and allies in this century are cynically sold as something else and covered in buzz words such as freedom and democracy until these words have become meaningless. Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also covered in cynic arguments and blatant lies.

Yet, for me, not all wars are the same. While Ukraine's democracy may be less than ideal, it is still a democracy. People have a say, press have a say and, eventually they can drive their destiny - subject to intromissions and pressure yes, like all other countries - but with the people's choice on what to do about it.

And that is why I deplore US intervention in Irak, Saudi Arabia's operations in Sudan, Israel's land grabbing, Europe's operations in several African countries, Ethiopia's own "holomordor" in Tigray, China's treatment of the Uyghur, Daesh acts (in general and particular destroying 3000 year old Assirian ruins),  and countless other acts of aggression.

Yet, at the same time, I do know that, in this case, I have a clear personal stance with Ukraine and a chance to have a future outside Putin's Tzardom. This is an endless war: it is the Hellenic League against the Persian empire, the Republican's against Julius Cesar, the French Revolution against the absolutists, the Parliament against the King of England, the Spanish Republic against Franco, the allies versus Hitler.... one of the few fights worth being fought.
2528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 05, 2022, 10:37:14 PM
WTF? As of March 5 UN estimates 351 civilians killed. Don't take pictures of people and then tell them that they cant leave with Red Cross! Trying to claim that its better for hundreds of thousands of civilians to stay in the besieged city without water or power is madness, or correct term would be hostages! The fuckery with Red Cross needs to be condemned as strongly as possible, and i don't care what side you're on.

So what did you expect to happen? Tell civilians to leave bomb shelters / basements / etc despite ongoing shelling? I get that you dislike the number of casualties and prefer it to be much larger.




And speaks of above 1000 civilian casualties confirmed including wounded. This seems like a low figure, but the report in full clearly states that:

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OHCHR believes that the real figures are considerably higher, especially in Government-controlled territory and especially in recent days, as the receipt of information from some locations where intensive hostilities have been going on was delayed and many reports were still pending corroboration. This concerns, for example, the town of Volnovakha where hundreds of civilian casualties have been alleged. These figures are being further corroborated and are not included in the above statistics.

on top of that, there is no way to effective account for the total number and the verification of the numbers is at least, weak:

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Since 24 February 2022, in the context of the Russian Federation’s military action in Ukraine, HRMMU has been unable to visit places of incidents and interview victims and witnesses there.

Some of the wide area pictures show a large number of civilian buildings destroyed. It is impossible that has happened without significant casualties.
2529  Other / Politics & Society / Economic sanctions are not a war declaration on: March 05, 2022, 10:22:24 PM
Putin is trying to make economic sanctions an equivalent to a declaration of war. Why this is not true:

- An economic sanction does not kill people (not directly nor quickly).
- Economic sanctions mean simply that other countries do not want to trade with you. That is not fighting, is simply a effect of failing to have a successful relation with the international community.
- Economic sanctions are reversible. It is Putin's hand to take the steps to come back into the international community.

2530  Other / Politics & Society / Re: One side donations for two country crisis's on: March 05, 2022, 02:46:52 PM


I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising




Oh, but they do have their own fundraising my friend! There is just but one little difference: Is not optional. You have to volunteer even if you do not want to volunteer. This takes the shape of not being able to go out with USD, interest rates, inflation and other measures that equate to mandatory fundraising.

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/03/02/russia-is-trying-to-prop-up-the-ruble-but-its-not-working/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/putin-signs-decree-to-prohibit-leaving-russia-with-more-than-10-000-in-foreign-currency-01646176225

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Putin signs decree to prohibit leaving Russia with more than $10,000 in foreign currency

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Putin ordered this week included obligating Russian exporters to sell 80% of their revenues in foreign currency, prohibiting Russian residents from providing nonresidents with foreign currency under loan agreements and from depositing foreign currency into foreign bank accounts.



2531  Other / Politics & Society / A well know military analyst and reported says Putin´s army near collapse on: March 05, 2022, 02:37:59 PM
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499807262084325379

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Bellingcat investigator Christo Grozev says that #Russia has resources left for the war until Sunday, after which they will collapse.

Also next week, Russia is facing sanctions, the scale of which “we have not seen before”, and they will also affect Putin

I tend to be sceptical about this types of statements. However this particular person has been around most of the intel reports dealing with Putin´s involvement in a number or executive actions (AKA crimes) and seems to have a glimpse beyond the usual guy on the street. There seems to be also an indication than Kherson has been re-gained.

How optimistic can one be about a resolution?

https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/calendar/insights-bellingcat-russias-ukraine-ambitions

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/open-source-intelligence-from-ukraine
2532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Putin's last images are not in a palace, but in a bunker like room on: March 05, 2022, 02:27:59 PM
At this point, it does not matter where he is.

The US and NATO just gave Putin a green light to start bombing.

They refused to establish a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

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Slava Ukraini!!!

A no fly zone is an act of war (you will be shooting down Putin's aircrafts). NATO is not at war with Putin and the world cannot risk WW III.

I have to disagree.  I think Putin is at war with the West.  Autocracy vs Democracy.
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Let me rephrase, NATO does not want to further escalate WWIII if your prefer this.
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Frankly, I do not think NATO is prepared to deal with Putin once he attacks their countries.

They should be planning for a nuclear war right now while Putin is busy with Ukraine.

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You would be surprised.

Slava Ukrain.

2533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 05, 2022, 02:19:58 PM
Putin denies Russia bombing Ukrainian cities
https://insiderpaper.com/putin-denies-russia-bombing-ukrainian-cities/

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Russian President Vladimir Putin in a phone call with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz denied that Russian troops were bombing Ukrainian cities, dismissing such information as fake, the Kremlin said Friday.

Putin said reports about “the alleged ongoing air strikes of Kyiv and other large cities are gross propaganda fakes,” the Kremlin said in a statement.

He added that dialogue on Ukraine would be possible only if Russian demands are met.

Putin “confirmed that Russia is open to dialogue with the Ukrainian side, as well as with everyone who wants peace in Ukraine. But under the condition that all Russian demands are met,” the Kremlin said.

These include the neutral and non-nuclear status of Ukraine, its “denazification”, recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and of the “sovereignty” of separatist territories in eastern Ukraine.

“Hope was expressed that during the planned third round of talks, the representatives of Kyiv will take a reasonable and constructive position,” the Kremlin added.

The next meeting of delegations from Russia and Ukraine is expected during the weekend, according to one of Kyiv’s negotiators.

At this point, it does not matter what Putin says or thinks.  I would completely ignore him.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1499806284081737730
You're conflicting your own writing, you clearly not completely ignore him.
Are you pro Azov or pro BCУ (VSU )?
https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Azov_Battalion
No, I am anti-Soviet. I despise them.  I know they are not humans.  
They don't abide by any human norms, moral or ethical standards.
They have no respect for human life, equality, or justice.  

They break all norms of the civilized world and lie about it to themselves and the rest of the world.

There is no difference between WWII German Nazis and the Russian Soviets of any era.

In my world view, Soviets and their sympathizers should be put down like the mad dogs they are.

They are pure evil on pretty much any level.

On the subject of listening to Putin, there is a rule in war: Anything the enemy says is disinformation. You do not believe, nor not believe it , you simply ignore it completely insofar as that is humanly possible. Your decisions are based on facts, actions and your own intelligence.

This applies to anything they say, including "we want a diplomatic solution", "we are here to free you", etc... The enemy is not your friend and is not going to give you anything that can help your efforts.

On how Putin´s Russia is behaving, yes, I find quite a few similarities with the Nazis in WWII - the right to impose their views by force, despising minorities, blaming the foreign for your own weaknesses...
2534  Economy / Economics / Re: Donate to Ukraine on: March 05, 2022, 01:22:54 PM
There goes my first donation, this week's income from the campaign. It is not much, but I hope it serves UKR well, along with all the donations of people that want a free Ukraine and are resisting Putin's aggression on the ground and in the internet battleground.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/2e5848a7828be39746d46a166a462b2316d5082390ca4b0f0b117e0d09fbe1a7
2535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Putin's last images are not in a palace, but in a bunker like room on: March 04, 2022, 11:04:44 PM
At this point, it does not matter where he is.

The US and NATO just gave Putin a green light to start bombing.

They refused to establish a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

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Slava Ukraini!!!

A no fly zone is an act of war (NATO would be shooting down Putin's aircrafts). NATO is not at war with Putin and the world cannot risk WW III.

I fully support supplying Ukraine with all material means to resist and eventually, drive Putin out. That includes planes and air defences.

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Of course he is. One thing Russian propaganda is very good at - projection (possibly a result of a lack of imagination, but why waste time inventing things when you can take reality and flip it around).
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On which, I just listened to a short interview to a Ukrainian young lady that is sending to her Russian friends videos and images of the war and she was saying that they just did not believe that there actually was a war... pretty much they were so far from reality that nothing would make them consider that their official media could actually be lying God Level.
2536  Other / Politics & Society / Putin's last images are not in a palace, but in a bunker like room on: March 04, 2022, 08:55:01 PM
Before:



After:



I am not prone to draw conclusions, but he has been filmed on a very USSR like office, holding the conference on-line. And we are talking about a guy that just cant live without the emperor's glam. Is putting hiding in a (very nice yet sober) bunker?
2537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 04, 2022, 08:45:28 PM
Wait, I am afraid we are just loosing a bit here. The fact that a country is strategically important for you does not mean you automatically get the right to rule it!
Russia would not want to rule or better say wreck Ukraine if the West were not constantly pushing their interest in Ukraine. West should have consider not expanding NATO to the east.

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Russia is strategically important for the safety of Poland. Putin is aggressive, thus Poland has the right to change Russia's regime. Sounds ridiculous does it not?
Poland don't need to do it alone. The west, EU and NATO are already trying to do it for them.

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Then, the argument is "I have a bigger army and I will tell your citizens what they can and cannot do"
Why do you think all these nuclear power all around? To produce energy?

My point was not justifying the war but to point out the problems behind it. The West and Russia are having their egoistic showdown and in between Ukrainians are losing everything even at this very moment.

So the West is the cause of this war because the people of Ukraine would rather look west than be part of Putin's dominions? Cannot you not understand that Putin's Russia is simply unattractive as as partner?  Would you not say that his doings in Chechenia, the government actions in Russia and Belorussia are not fundamental reasons why other kids do not wanna play with him? Would you say that the empire of the oligarchs he promoted is a feature many would rather not have in their countries?

There is a old German saying: "be my friend or I'll crush your skull". Did Putin not learn to make friend when he was six?

Again, either this is about legality or it is about force. If it is about legality, Ukraine is a free country and is free to choose their partners. If it is about force, then we should reckon that diplomacy has failed and neutral countries are free to sell weapons to any of the contenders as per the rules of war. My personal take is for the West to help Ukraine reach a full stalemate on this war until it is no longer economically viable or someone decides to, instead of changing Ukraine government, reconsider who should be their own leader.

If you know that women leaving the house without a man will most likely have severe consequences in Saudi Arabia, but you still encourage a Saudi girl to protest and come outside without a man, when she gets arrested and tortured to death, would you bear any responsibility, or should you just move on to encouraging the rights of the next Saudi girl?

What do you say when a Geneva convention violation, where a medical facility of doctors without borders which was on the no-strike list is attacked with 211 shells causing 42 deaths, and then a tank rolled in which "forced entry damaged property, destroyed potential evidence and caused stress and fear". Is not qualify as a war crime by the laws? sorry to burst your bubble but world is unfair, war is hell, and selective enforcement of laws only makes a mockery of said laws

Edit: And there are many more examples of violations of human rights which were never prosecuted, now question why are you being activated for this even vs others with many more civilian casualties.

Agreed, although you are a bit outdated on Saudi Arabia, there are some signs of opening.

I would encourage any population to organise themselves and seek all the help possible to free themselves in the most effective manner possible. but without giving in.

To be honest, being under Putin's rule does not guarantee that the population will not suffer or die.
2538  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Donar a Ukrania on: March 04, 2022, 02:15:56 PM
Estaba leyendo en otro hilo un usuario que, en un inglés roto, indicaba que no le gustaba la idea de donar en BTC para la Ucrania, presumiblemente por considerar que había más riesgo de ir a para con una dirección BTC de timo, o bien porque los fondos remitidos sean más fáciles de llevarse o gestionarse con menor control. Estos son supuestos míos, no obstante, ante su ausencia de justificación del motivo por el cual no le gusta donar BTC.

¿Vosotros veis más "fiable" donar a cuentas bancarias que a direcciones BTC?

Nota: En los tiempos que corren, tomando ciertas precauciones previas de contrastar la información, no hay más remedio que ayudar si se puede, aunque no exista la certeza absoluta del buen uso de los fondos, se transmitan por el medio que sea.

En cuanto al destino, aunque se donen en una cuenta los usaran como consideren mas conveniente, es ya fiarse del gobierno de Ukrania y de que los usara para o bien luchar o bien curar.

Donar en bitcoin, creo que si es a la cuenta oficial sera adecuado. Hay bastante llegando ya alli, unos 10M USD. Mi primera transferencia sera esta noche tras cobrar y espero q no me engañen... que puedo decir.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/357a3So9CbsNfBBgFYACGvxxS6tMaDoa1P
2539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: War now ukraine real or not on: March 04, 2022, 01:33:08 PM
Real in the sense that there is a (internal) conflict in Ukraine and some ask for help. Corruption is out of control in Ukraine. "News" is nothing else als propaganta.

One of the waring party and its not Putin
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Why we dont speak more then about this issue=?



Because we are too busy trying to avoid the destruction of a country to give credit to such a shitty attempt at propaganda.
2540  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 04, 2022, 11:53:05 AM
Wait, I am afraid we are just loosing a bit here. The fact that a country is strategically important for you does not mean you automatically get the right to rule it!
Russia would not want to rule or better say wreck Ukraine if the West were not constantly pushing their interest in Ukraine. West should have consider not expanding NATO to the east.

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Russia is strategically important for the safety of Poland. Putin is aggressive, thus Poland has the right to change Russia's regime. Sounds ridiculous does it not?
Poland don't need to do it alone. The west, EU and NATO are already trying to do it for them.

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Then, the argument is "I have a bigger army and I will tell your citizens what they can and cannot do"
Why do you think all these nuclear power all around? To produce energy?

My point was not justifying the war but to point out the problems behind it. The West and Russia are having their egoistic showdown and in between Ukrainians are losing everything even at this very moment.

So the West is the cause of this war because the people of Ukraine would rather look west than be part of Putin's dominions? Cannot you not understand that Putin's Russia is simply unattractive as as partner?  Would you not say that his doings in Chechenia, the government actions in Russia and Belorussia are not fundamental reasons why other kids do not wanna play with him? Would you say that the empire of the oligarchs he promoted is a feature many would rather not have in their countries?

There is a old German saying: "be my friend or I'll crush your skull". Did Putin not learn to make friend when he was six?

Again, either this is about legality or it is about force. If it is about legality, Ukraine is a free country and is free to choose their partners. If it is about force, then we should reckon that diplomacy has failed and neutral countries are free to sell weapons to any of the contenders as per the rules of war. My personal take is for the West to help Ukraine reach a full stalemate on this war until it is no longer economically viable or someone decides to, instead of changing Ukraine government, reconsider who should be their own leader.
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