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2241  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 01, 2022, 08:57:05 PM
So, in your view, Ukraine cannot decide what to do because else Putin would not feel "secure" despite having a nuclear arsenal? Just think of it in in the opposite way: "Russian should demilitarise so that Ukraine feels secure". You see how absurd that is?

I'm not saying that we're living in a perfect world...but seeing USA/NATO track record since WW2, can you blame Russians?
Looking at Napoleon, Hitler, Genghis Khan and numerous other invasions, can you blame Russians?

I suggest you look for and watch Oliver Stone (lenghty) interview with Putin on Youtube

hell, USA was afraid of small Grenada and attacked state of 100 thousands people with almost no military

What you are doing is saying that Ukraine acted "as if" they wanted to be invaded, I do understand the statement and the wording, but it can be easily interpreted as a covered attempt of justification for the aggression so. My question, that you just do not answer, remains: Do you think they wanted to be invaded?

A few more questions, just so you have the chance to be clear on your points.

 Do you justify Putin on the grounds of Ukraine not accepting to do his will?
 Do you justify Putin's aggression on the grounds of "since the world is not perfect, Ukraine cannot make its own choices?" Before answering (or more likely, not answering which seems your style) consider that by using that argument nearly anything is justified (e.g. "since the world is not perfect", we can admit modern slavery in Saudi Arabia, children's prostitution in south east Asia, women's systematic assassinations and rapes in Ciudad Juarez, racial profiling,...)
2242  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 01, 2022, 01:17:37 PM
Regarding what Zelensky wanted or did not want, I'm not mind reader, so I won't make any conspiracy theories
about that...I wish he accepted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements and gave up NATO membership, then
we would have much more clear situation, and Putin would have much harder job of convincing anyone, including
Russians, that he had to attack Ukraine

Nothing that Ukraine did or didn't do had any effect on the situation (unless of course they simply gave up and joined Putin's empire voluntarily).

Putin lied to the Russian people and created the obviously false narrative that Ukraine ("nazis") and/or NATO were going to attack Russia so he had to strike first. NATO has been on Russia's borders for decades. The new members joined NATO to defend against this exact shit that's going on now in Ukraine and it was a damn good decision that saved Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania - surely Putin would have gone there first and not to Ukraine if he could.


I compared current situation with Cuba crisis, BUT Ukraine in NATO would put Russia in jeopardy against conventional attack too.
Unlike conventional attack from Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania, conventional attack from Ukraine would put Russia in situation where only defense
would be use of nukes

In case of neutral or friendly Ukraine, for conventional war vs NATO  Russia only has to close Suwalki gap
Its 100km vs 2300km border to defend

So, in your view, Ukraine cannot decide what to do because else Putin would not feel "secure" despite having a nuclear arsenal? Just think of it in in the opposite way: "Russian should demilitarise so that Ukraine feels secure". You see how absurd that is?
2243  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 01, 2022, 12:05:11 PM

Also, why should Ukraine have Putin deciding what they can or cannot do? Are we in the middle ages?


Same reason as why Cuba was not allowed to put nukes on its soil?
Why you call 1960's "middle ages"?

Also, you should make distinction between "because" and "as if"

In your view, is the fact that Cuba, in the 60s, could not install nuclear missiles on its soil the true justification for this war?

Do you think Ukraine would be admitted in the OTAN and, if so, it would have nuclear missiles installed in its soil? Before you answer that question, please notice that Lithuania is a NATO member and the distance from Moscow is less than 500 miles, that there are nuclear submarines that can be positioned in the artic or any other point in the coastal areas of Russia and that there are several other options for a first strike capability.

Do you think that now that Finland is requesting to join the NATO Putin is justified to attack Finland? Should NATO position troops in Finland now?

The fact is that if you want to invade a country, you can always find a whatabbout to justify.
2244  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Cuál es su IQ? on: April 01, 2022, 10:33:54 AM
Pues el valor mostrado en mi perfil está bastante por debajo del que se supone que tenía, aunque probablemente éste se haya degradado desde la última vez que lo miré, y no me extrañaría verlo por estos lodos centenarios …

Recalcar aquí la parte importante: ¡Aquellos con un IQ < 120 serán baneados del foro!

Lástima que no me diese tiempo para raspar los perfiles y hacer una estadística al respecto.


Edit: No me había fijado en la parte final al postear, hasta postear (incluso un edit) ...

Es muy gracioso, pero tambien un poco "biased" con preguntas relativas a US mas que a otras culturas. Creo que el post lo puedes poner sin contestar a la pregunta no pasa nada, creo que te quita un punto o algo asi. Ya era hora de the Theymos hiciera una de estas bromas. La ultima fue con NFT's o una que habia que avanzar de rango siguiendo 5 parametros... ya no me acuerdo.
2245  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 01, 2022, 10:28:01 AM

Apart from trying to justify the war on the ground of "Ukraine wanted to be invaded", "the amount of children dead is not as much as in other wars" and "the US is worse, so this is OK", may I know where you get your figures, particularly the 500k children dead in Irak?

Sorry, I thought its common knowledge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8



Sorry I do not watch youtube videos for information, I would rather not have google knowing what I am interested in nor use - in general - an algorithm that systematically promotes click-baits. Do you have a written, credible source?

Do you think that the war in Irak justifies the war in Ukraine or makes it good?

Also, I think that the questions on the IQ are biased. Most people around the world do not read about state laws in the US.

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But Ukrainian leadership played right into Putin narrative, as if they wanted him to attack

Let's get this clear then : Do you think they wanted him to attack or do you think they didn't?


Use TOR browser, so then only CIA and NSA will track you, and not Google Smiley

Its not a problem to give you text source, although its always better to actually hear it first hand,
instead reading someones opinion about what someone said, but here you go:

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/3/25/lets-remember-madeleine-albright-as-who-she-really-was

Google will track that too, mind you, but oh well.

Regarding what Zelensky wanted or did not want, I'm not mind reader, so I won't make any conspiracy theories
about that...I wish he accepted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements and gave up NATO membership, then
we would have much more clear situation, and Putin would have much harder job of convincing anyone, including
Russians, that he had to attack Ukraine

Thanks for the track covering advice, I still rather have a reliable written source. No, Google will not track any of my activity unless I want to, thank again.

You say you do not make conspiracy theories, but you did make the statement

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But Ukrainian leadership played right into Putin narrative, as if they wanted him to attack

So my question remains. Does that mean that you think he wanted Putin to attack or you think he did not want him to attack?

Also, why should Ukraine have Putin deciding what they can or cannot do? Are we in the middle ages?

2246  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 01, 2022, 09:16:23 AM

Apart from trying to justify the war on the ground of "Ukraine wanted to be invaded", "the amount of children dead is not as much as in other wars" and "the US is worse, so this is OK", may I know where you get your figures, particularly the 500k children dead in Irak?

Sorry, I thought its common knowledge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8



Sorry I do not watch youtube videos for information, I would rather not have google knowing what I am interested in nor use - in general - an algorithm that systematically promotes click-baits. Do you have a written, credible source?

Do you think that the war in Irak justifies the war in Ukraine or makes it good?

Also, I think that the questions on the IQ are biased. Most people around the world do not read about state laws in the US.

EDITED:
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But Ukrainian leadership played right into Putin narrative, as if they wanted him to attack

Let's get this clear then : Do you think they wanted him to attack or do you think they didn't?
2247  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 01, 2022, 08:44:57 AM
Why do Russians see Nazis everywhere? Before going to sleep maybe you're checking under your bed to be sure that nazi isn't hiding? Not allowing athletes to participate just because that they're Russian isn't discrimination. It's collective reposnisbility. They're not directly responsible for war in Ukraine, but Russian citizens should respond for actions of their elected president, which was elected by majority of votes.
Maybe these things in Europe can be called Russophobia, but what else do you expect? That Russians will be liked and welocomed with a joy?

They probably expect same respect as recently deceased USA politician who said that death of 500 000 Iraq children
was worth price to be sure that Saddam doesn't have WMDs.

let numbers sink to you for a while:

150 dead children in Ukraine, unprecedented sanctions
500 000 dead children in Iraq, nothing happens

Before you accuse me of Russophilia: yes, I think all wars are disaster, and I think Russia are in Ukraine
not only for geostrategic, but also economic reasons. But Ukrainian leadership played right into Putin
narrative, as if they wanted him to attack

Also, amount of American hypocrisy is staggering


Apart from trying to justify the war on the ground of "Ukraine wanted to be invaded", "the amount of children dead is not as much as in other wars" and "the US is worse, so this is OK", may I know where you get your figures, particularly the 500k children dead in Irak?
2248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: March 31, 2022, 11:38:27 PM
I just don't understand how Erling Haaland is getting injured like all the time. He was just back from an injury but he has an ankle injury this time. And it is said that he will be out until late April. He still can't play for Dortmund when they need him the most unfortunately. And this week, they are going to have a really difficult game against Leipzig home. Dortmund have many missing players now but still they are favoured for a victory by a little gap. I can't trust them in this game but I hope they win.

It is an anoying situation for Dortmund, they now have to show if they have other resources they can use in situations like this. That is the problem with teams that are built around one or two players in general, there is always a possibility - and soccer is the right sport for this to happen = that they will loose the stars right when they are most needed. I trust there is a plan B for the coach.
2249  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Drake became partners of the Stake Casino on: March 31, 2022, 11:35:18 PM
Celebrity endorsers can be of great help, but it would be so much better if the casino already has made its contribution and its reputation on its own. Even without an endorser, surely, the players would be encouraged to invest and play with them. Although having an endorser would be a plus and a win-win situation too.

Prior to getting the involvement of Drake, Stake is already a popular crypto-gambling platform. It means, even without the partnership, Stake will just continue to gain its popularity no matter what. It happened that Drake is playing at Stake and that's a good opportunity to make a collaboration.

Stake x Drake seems also a catchy term. The rhyme is really fit at gambling.

Drake is really fit to be their celebrity endorser. Cheesy
It is a match made in heaven, Drake is not only already known as a gambler so he is the perfect celebrity to become the sponsor of a casino, but that is not all, as you state even the names of Drake and Stake match perfectly making the creation of a PR campaign something relatively easy, so I have no doubts this was the right move for Stake and I have no doubts that since then they have seen their traffic and their profits increase due to Drake becoming their sponsor not long ago.
Well, you have to see that stake.com always knows what he is doing and chooses each of his workers with a magnifying glass because they are the best, plus a special feature is that Drake is not only a good rapper, but he is a person who has a great heart, when he was with Eddie in his live presentation and said that he would donate that $1M I think it touched every heart of many people in the world, here it is manifested that a successful company has its funds to help those who need it most, and This fact alone fills the entire stake.com team with many blessings.


I'm happy to hear that from Drake, the fact that he donated that huge amount tells us that he is not addicted to gambling although he is known to be a huge bettor with the bet slip he shared. Stake.com knows what they are doing, they are not new in the business and they are very successful as a business.

That is not indicate about his addiction since maybe he's go thru with that condition. He's a busy man so most provably he don't have time to spend on gambling and I guess he is just a casual gambler which spend his money on gambling if there's big sports event came what he likes and also maybe he's unto card games if he want to seek fun on his boring days.

I agree, it would be kind of stupid to partner with someone that is actually experiencing some of the problems that sometimes and for some people are associated to using gambling sites. It is also an interesting situation that people are unsure of what type of game is actually the guy into, it would play a much better effect if it was widely known and could be more promotional in that sense.
2250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the next big industry move? on: March 31, 2022, 11:32:50 PM
have you considered that attention span is smaller and smaller each year
with social media websites like tik tok getting big being able to focus and having an attention span longer than 10 minutes it's already a superpower nowadays
tik tok is reducing it to 15 seconds

do you think this may end up making people more prone to gambling and addicting activities or shouldn't be a correlation here?

You are right, the young have a tendency to use only fast and simple media content, they do not even bother to read, it has to be someone telling them stuff in youtube or, even better for the teenagers if it is someone saying short and stupid things in Tik Tok. I guess the gambling industry will have a challenge ahead about figuring out how to design games that fit into that tendency.
2251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: March 31, 2022, 11:29:44 PM
Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid are going to play their games on the first day of this match weekend. Real Madrid are playing an away game against Celta Vigo first. This is not a very difficult game for Real Madrid honestly. Celta Vigo don't seem to be one of the reliable teams this season. And Real Madrid would just focus on announcing their title as early as possible. Real Madrid would beat them. And Atletico Madrid have an even easier game against Alaves. Against this much in-form team, Alaves can't stand a chance.

I think it does have a tiny chance yes, but as usual this is not as much about predicting the obvious winner when there is an obvious winner, but rather to see if somehow the odds have a higher chance to fall in your favour than what is out there in the books of the gambling houses. Alaves as of now is a looser in all of them, but perhaps too much of a looser. Even a tie could hold potential for good earnings.
2252  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambling exploit (LEGAL) on: March 31, 2022, 11:26:03 PM
Oh my gods! And I thought I have seen everything in the forum. I am so pleased to meet a member of the Nigerian royalty! A pleasure your highness.

So you need 20k to start right! sounds perfect, in fact I am going to give you 60000 USD, the only problem I have is that all that is held in an account and I need to pay a lawyer to get access to it. If you send me 5000 to cover the expenses I can send you then the 60000. Deal?

Just for the record and the dumb ones out there, this is all ironic.
2253  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Economic sanctions are not a war declaration on: March 31, 2022, 09:36:08 PM
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Do you think that after changing the payment and eventually threatening to cut contractually signed gas supplies would any country invest ever in a gas pipe to connect to Putin's Russia? Do you dream of an Eastern alliance with such a reputation?
I think the freezing of funds of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a serious reputational damage for the West. The USA, Great Britain, the European Union, Japan and even Switzerland have significantly discredited their own national currencies in the eyes of the entire world community - the US dollar, the pound sterling, the euro, the Japanese yen and the Swiss franc, these fiat currencies can no longer be considered reliable enough for long-term storage, because they can be easily frozen, just when you need them most. The value of fiat currencies rests on the trust in the issuer, and this trust no longer exists. In fact, this is the end of the Jamaican monetary system.

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I agree, there is a reputation come, but I think this is the right reputation actually. If you are willing to threaten and invade, you have no business here.


BTW, I have a completely different version of the negotiations with Ukraine regarding the gas, as Putin needed the agreement of Ukraine to send gas to the EU. As we like to say in some of the places I live "donde tengas la olla no metas la polla".
Sometimes it seems that you and I generally live in some kind of parallel worlds. One and the same reality and we have such a different view of it. It's funny that we can still continue the dialogue. Grin

I am not surprised, in the places I live people talk, even if to disagree and tell others they are wrong (without killing them usually). There something about the Russian unwillingness to compromise, in general, that I find difficult to understand.
2254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An Old and Rare one. on: March 31, 2022, 09:14:05 PM
Seems correct, their relationship has gone further and now they are fu*king each other. (Sorry, it was too easy, this is not fun in any manner).
2255  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Precious slap on: March 31, 2022, 09:12:25 PM
Which only leaves one question here: How much does Will Smith charge for a slap? Is there an additional surcharge if you want him to swear about you and your mouth? In the world today, everything seems to be for sale. What is the public thinking? "I am so eager to see the bruises that I am going to pay 400 bucks for a first lane seat" or would it be more like "I can't miss out, Will may drop by to finish the job".
2256  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 31, 2022, 08:57:12 PM
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This is Russian 'military' for you. They are good at shooting at targets that don't shoot back.

Pinpoint precision my ass. They are a horde of Mongols. I hope Ukrainians will find and kill every single Russian soldier, and pro-Russian gang member they can find on the territory of Ukraine.

Make them pay.

@be.open, seems like you "brotherhood" idea is not clearly understood by your Ukrainian brother here. You need to explain him that he must forget the fact that Putin has shelled their cities, killed children is still starving people in Mariupol and consider that as "simply ideological differences" and become one nation under Tzar Putin.

hint: It may take a while convincing them, be ready for some resistance.
2257  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 31, 2022, 11:50:54 AM
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During the conflict the military of Ukraine has received and keeps on receiving billions in weapons aid which is making it stronger than ever. At this point something should be clear even for Putin: US and Europe are not going to let Ukraine fall. If planes are needed, there will be planes, if tanks are needed, there will be tanks, if more intelligence is needed it will be provided.
I think this is one of the fakes of Ukrainian propaganda, saying that the West will help. The disposal of illiquid weapons is no more difficult than one person can lift - this is the maximum of this help from the West, a rocket from the sky will immediately fly into something larger. Nothing oversized and nothing in large batches. No ships, no planes, no helicopters, no artillery, no tanks, no anti-aircraft missile systems, only hand-held anti-tank systems and a few drones.
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I love Tchaikovsky, Dostoyevski and Chinghiz Aitmatov (not Russian, but writes in Russian) and many other manifestations of the Russian culture, and I am against prohibiting any non-violent and non-politically loaded cultural manifestation (ballet qualifies, for avoidance of doubt). I just see that Putin is unfit to rule and is damaging Russia's people and interests.

Now that I am thinking... Do not "Crime and Punishment" by  Dostoyevski speak of crime and punishment? Do you think Putin read it?

On the fake "support", do you think these 13.6 Billion USD are just to buy bandages and helmets?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/11/us-congress-gives-final-approval-to-13-6b-ukraine-aid-budget

Just to put it into perspective, the best-class tanks cost around 4 million. This helps equates to 3400 state-of-the-art tanks. You can pretend a fist is fake, until it hits you in the nose.

You see, Putin has now pushed Ukraine into accepting US aid. I cannot see the "master strategy" on this.
2258  Economy / Economics / Re: Russia Was Prepared to Withstand Sanctions. Why Wasn't Europe Prepared to Impose on: March 31, 2022, 10:14:01 AM
He has spent decades projecting an illusion that Russia is to be feared, however it has barely made any progress in Ukraine - it would get annihilated by NATO if it ever tried to invade anywhere else in Europe.



I'm not a Putin supporter.

My goal is to be as accurate as possible about the situation in ukraine. As accurate information is important to understand the nature of reality.

What stands out the most about russia's invasion of ukraine, is its efforts to conduct the operation on a shoestring budget. Russia primarily used conscripts who are paid a reduced wage, in contrast to professional soldiers. Russia avoided using air support to eliminate higher costs associated with jet fighters and smart bomb ordnance. From the beginning, it seems russia prioritized cost savings to wage a war that would put as little strain on its economy as possible.

Russia was definitely hit hard by sanctions and other financial measures taken against them. But looking at their approach, they were preparing for this from the start of the war.

It may also be fair to say that should russia manage to solve enough of its economic troubles, it will return once again to its invasion.

Most sources I have seen credit russia with having the #2 military in the world. I wonder if they are underrated.

I do not think Hydrogen is a Putin supporter. He is just putting forward some arguments and figures and it is good to think what and how Putin's entourage sees the situation because, while we must keep hopes and spirit high, it is also necessary to understand the economic reality and how to take advantage of opportunities and mitigate the risks.

There needs to be high morale and determination as  well as strategic analytic thinking.
2259  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: March 31, 2022, 09:57:59 AM

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You are trying to compare civilian casualties with military casualties?  So you are saying that Putin is not killing "as much as he could" because Ukrainians are your brothers? It is the same when you said that Ukrainians will forget all this and be brothers ...man!... that is so pyscho! Are you a sociopath or did you use some "recommended answers" from your controllers (which I am sure are sociopaths)?

During the conflict the military of Ukraine has received and keeps on receiving billions in weapons aid which is making it stronger than ever. At this point something should be clear even for Putin: US and Europe are not going to let Ukraine fall. If planes are needed, there will be planes, if tanks are needed, there will be tanks, if more intelligence is needed it will be provided.

RE Russophobia - please, this is for all Russians, Europe is not an enemy of the Russian people. We want to trade and have a pacific relationship and we are sorry that your current leader is sending your young to die by the thousands when there is absolutely no need for it nor anything to gain for you.

As said: Putin's army has no real capability to hold long supply lines. Ukraine has delivered a few counter strikes and holds several strategic points. From "we want to depose the government" is now becoming "we want the south ports" and will eventually become "err... well, sorry, we were just passing by". To late for many.

RE Energy, it seems that Putin is backing up on the senseless plan of payments in roubles - who knows, he may some day decide that this whole war was not a great idea after all. Late for many.











2260  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Greenpeace lanza campaña para limpiar Bitcoin (sus palabras) on: March 30, 2022, 11:37:05 PM
Me sorprende, normalmente Greenpeace tiene al menos una base teorica suficiente para sus iniciativas. No se han parado a considerar que los medios de pago ya existentes tienen un coste energetico aun mas alto?

De todas formas, si realmente se pudiera rebajar el consumo sin comprometer la seguridad y la calidad de la red tampoco pasaria nada.
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