As I said on the other subject, if it is possible, I would know the part that generates the images ( In private message if necessary )  Sorry buddy, I have no intention to publicize image generation code at the moment. As you know, apart from that, rest of the site could be created by anyone having modest PHP knowledge. So for a time being, I would like to keep that private. Well, you can try to create that code. It is not that difficult, just require little innovative thinking. Thank you for showing where I was making mistake. I didn't know about ccode with which one can skip recaptcha. The captcha was the only obstacle for my trust scraping code.
Seeking answer for this question: Currently, whenever someone request to create card, my alt account: webtricks_random gets login and provide trust score. Is it ok or will it effect forum in any way? If it effects the performance of forum, I can save data in cookies file rather than login at every request.Update 4: The Reputation stat is now working properly for all the members. Here are the testimonials for the same:   Your game is a misleading piece of net negative CRAP. You are a low functioning drooling dreg. The only objective metrics with ANY meaning are the activity , and post count. The rest is abused and debunked garbage. Do you get that now?? What has this garbage got to do with meta board? Perhaps someone with some real talent and half a brain could create some cards with objective none gamed meaningful metrics being used. 1. time logged in 2. word count 3. different projects been part of 4. NOT spamming mixing gambling shit sigs everywhere ROOBET spammer. anything other that your merit seeking moronic game cards that are meaningless and net negative. |
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why is this a meta board subject?
I see already ANOTHER thread about this NON meta related junk game on page1 here? why the need for another thread??
merit = meaningless gamed garbage... the final round is based upon this and therefore the game is meaningless and a waste of time.
Time for a redesign.
Reputation = gamed and abused.
Merit = gamed and abused
the only objective metrics are activity and post count,
perhaps REAL ACHIEVEMENTS that made some difference?? how about that? or something that is actually having some kind of substance and meaning?
How about word count? how about time logged in, how about number of projects been involved with /part of ?... how about anything that is not total garbage? may need some new spiders so ask loyce for some assistance
Popularity? in meta?? haha okay.
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1. cryptosparks points out tman is nothing other than a foul mouthed imbecile who's posts have no value
2. Immediately tman raises a flag against him
un-ignored due to others quoting you. 1) I have been calling out sparks as a skammer for 792% roi and a guarnateed 5% per month return on another thread. 2) I did not raise a flag you piece of shit, use comprehension and actually read instead of making baseless accusations 3) you are still a Pajeet cunt who has no idea of facts. 4) back on ignore you punk Stop running away please auction scammer. Tman lauda yogg, owlcatz .... where one dirty scammer/extorter/ scammer supporter can be found abusing the trust system the other surely will be. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.0LOL okay so today you just raised a NEW thread to support the flag and it is not in retaliation to getting called out for your observable behaviors in your post history. Scamming, trust abusing little dirt bag that you are. Take me off ignore you scared weasel. |
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TMAN is using insults to cover up his baseless accusations
792% ROI on one thread guaranteeing 5% per month return in another. you have been here long enough to know the outcome of any offer like the above. just because you are too stupid to admit it due to the fact your nickers are so far up your arsehole after me calling you a cunt doesn't change it errr what about these examples compiled by loycev https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0Claiming you would buy your own coin, from yourself. since it would be a great deal for you, if only you did not have too many already LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL shut up auction scammer, you do not brand people as scammers because you say his claims are unrealistic. FIRST you are branded a scammer, then we can listen and compare his actions to your own and laudas prior actions to see if he meets the threshold of financially dangerous NEXT. No more double standards. @lauda is still trying to conflate 1. negative but objectively verifiable correct descriptions of observably financially dangerous behaviors with 2. groundless, valueless, needless, uncorroborated, false claims expressed in foul language and sexual deviance. that is the CORE DIFFERENCE between tman and other members that use insults. Is calling a confirmed scammer a filthy dirty scamming piece of shit the same as Calling a whistle blower who is outing a scammer via objectively verifiable observable instances.., a lying , trolling piece of shit. One is true and net positive to the rest of the forum, the other is FALSE, LYING and assisting scammers and net negative. NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME .... GET IT NOW. |
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In your opinion, which I'd question if you think phrases like "pasta fucking pizza wanking twat" and obscene 'your mom' jokes aren't immature dialogue. Hardly witty insults are they? Regardless of how fun you think it is, he's clearly doing it to agitate and it's unnecessary and derailing threads.
I would ask you to read the whole dialog from the beginning but I know you don't have time for it - in short, he offers 794% roi on one thread, guaranteed 5% on another thread, insists an API Key is the same as a bitcoin private Key - then posts the same shit over and over and over. The user is a scammer, he is using an Alt to back himself up and all I want is to protect gullible users who are likely to fall for this nonsense and lose BTC. my methods are far from normal as we all know - but it wont change the fact that I am correct, users need to be safeguarded from these idiots.
There is sparks claiming a 900 BTC bankroll.. some naive users will fall for that shit. These users need protecting from thieves and con-men like OP. End of So you are claiming he is a scammer because he is making claims you views as unrealistic? But then you are a proven auction scammer? don't you think confirmed scammers punishing " possible" future scammers is not going to work out well. LOL at your excuse... how about the other ton of examples of your groundless, misleading, uncorroborated, false, needless, swearing foul language and sexual deviance HERE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0You defense falls flat on its face when you read all of that through https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0And the fact you claim your prime value here is by swearing and people and screaming sexual deviance at them for entertainment?? You even admit that you CAN NOT present any examples of original thought provoking posts that made any real difference here that will stand up to scrutiny?? That is without all of your proven scamming and scammer supporting, extorting etc... NET NEGATIVE without a doubt. Get him off DT and merit source, it is an insult to the rest of the forum such low functioning financially dangerous scum have such positions. @lauda ... haha yes please demonstrate another member here that has this amount https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0of swearing and sexually deviant garbage in light of the FACT none of it has any substance that can be corroborated by observable instances. When we call you a scamming, trust abusing, extorting, shady escrow , piece of filthy shit. We can CORROBORATE it with observable instances that confirm this is TRUE. Do you get it now scammer??? Tmans blathering and tourettes laded garbage he heaps on many members with ZERO evidence they have scammed or done anything wrong at all is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. His posts offer ZERO VALUE he does not even attempt to present a valid supporting argument based on evidence that is objectively verifiable. You are a confirmed scammer colluding and defending another Confirmed scammer who you have EXTORTED with and trust abused with. You are black listed from DT1 ( should be blacklisted from DT in full) and so should your auction scamming colluding pal TMAN> Lauda is pretending that he can NOT differential between NEGATIVE DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE BASED UPON OBSERVABLE AND OBJECTIVELY VERIFIABLE instances of financially motivated wrong doing here. and Groundless, uncorroborated , valueless swearing and false accusations. Don't fall for it. He knows the difference but will claim there is none. |
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Why didn't you reply to my question ? would the api key act as bitcoin private key or not? you could spend the btc with your api key.
I did. I will use shorter sentences from now on. My reply was in my developed post. I will be more straightforward. No, because I cannot import your API key to Bitcoin Core. What you claim could be compared with saying that your credit card pin code is your bank account number. Is it ?
The major and less subtle nuance, is that if I hold a private key, I am the only one to be able to spend the BTC. If I hold an API key that allows me to spend funds on a BTC private key, then myself and the API operator can spend my funds. This is all it boils down to. The above post is clearly derailing and should be reported. This is a thread to analyse the racism and needless/groundless false accusations and foul mouthed insults tman uses to silence people speaking the truth. That along with his auction scamming and supporting of other scammers and a very relevant self confessed use of trust abusing people to silence their whistle blowing. All pretty damning stuff really. |
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CLEAR EXAMPLE OF THE FLAGGING SYSTEM BEING USED A RETALIATORY WEAPON BY CORRUPT DT MEMBERS.
1. cryptosparks points out tman is nothing other than a foul mouthed imbecile who's posts have no value
2. Immediately tman raises a flag against him
3. I'm not even going to have to look to guess lauda and yogg are supporting it. haha
This has to stop theymos has rocks in his head allowing undeniable auction scammers to raise flags just because people bring attention to their foul deeds.
Wake up and smell the rotting dirt that is right under your nose theymos, they are simply continuing to weaponize you control systems to control free speech.
Merit cancer has a lot to answer for.
Crypto sparks should just make a few things more clear in his advert to make 100% sure there is no grounds for them calling it misleading or dangerous.
However when confirmed and undeniable scammers like tman , lauda, and their observable scammer supporters are just weaponizing the systems of control to silence any form of whistle blowing then the system needs to be fixed up.
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listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.
you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.
Is the swearing necessary? And this sort of ad hominem would be against the rules (not to mention derailing threads): If you take a closer look, it's an on-topic post makes with a lot of insults. It's fine as is. This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.
Neither insults nor trolling is childish. That is not a valid argument and has been used ad-nauseam against both. It's fun to read if you're in the right mood, especially when it is on-point like here. Is just sad man, we are in bitcoin for decentralization and big ideals...while this is what this forum has become.
This sounds oddly familiar to what most Ponzi-scammers in the past would complain about (not claiming you are one here; it just smells familiar).  Well try it on with the rest of his brilliant , insightful and on topic points here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0Just because you claim trolling, tourettes laden insults with no supporting or corroborating evidence is not childish does not make it so. You are a person that claims your own observable instances of scamming are just lies and trolling, so I don't think we can rely on anything that you say can we. LOL at the biggest ponzi scammer supporter here giving lectures to others. I like this one. Closure or loss of some earnings...hmmmm. No big exchanges will risk it if they try and ban it. It won't have this much volume after the pump is done.
Don't be such an obvious pumper, at least pretend to consider some possible negatives. The fact you believe there was no instamine is the best part.
I'd rather be closed than submit to the foul government. There is no pump going on. We have just started to get the attention of some media, wait for the full impact. There was no instamine, I was there. Supporting, lying and trying to push scams is more your style when of course you are not pulling extortion or shady escrows. Then coming here to defend your auction scamming pals and extorting partners actions. When ever you see either lauda, tman, yogg, owlcatz, thenewanon , being made accountable for their actions you will see they all appear and start to collude and protect each other. Then you will see their out circle of scammer supporters come in aka suchmoon, pharmacist, direposter, foxy, ultraelite, xtraelv, moronbozo... they will do all they can to derail or defend or cast doubt even upon observable instances. This ring needs breaking up and crushing. A union is the only way really. Although as you can see even a couple of driven individuals armed with observable instances can pretty much crush their bullshit whilst keeping within the boards rules. Loyce seems to be advocating a forum full of posts that have ZERO substance or corroborating evidence that support them and defending "free speech" BUT then on the other hand claiming observable instances are TROLLING and should be stopped?? THERE needs to a sensible restriction upon baseless, non corroborated insults and swearing where the poster does not even bother presenting a supporting argument. Else the mass of low functioning tourettes laden scammer protecting spew drowns and out deters other posters from presenting the truth and this is also VERY counter productive to free speech. Loyce seems to be one of tmans main appreciators here. He started the tman poetry thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0 ( that was in turn merited by ... you guessed it) Tman himself admitted he can NOT present ANY examples of his original thought inspiring posts EVER... been here years and not EVEN ONE original thought provoking post of any substance or ANY major achievements that made any difference at all. But rather TMAN claims - he is valuable because people find his swearing and sexual deviance plastered all over the forum entertaining. Sorry but that only the low functioning idiots that they themselves are unwilling to present any original thought inspiring posts and whom have never made any real achievements here that made any real difference. The only people supporting Tmans blabbing swearing and sexual deviant garbage in the vast majority of their posts where there is no substance or corroborating evidence that validates it in any way are net negative and are likely found on each others trust includes or each others top 20 fans and recipients for merit and spamming highly paid sigs. Think about that. There is no point banning him just get him off DT and merit source and get a union to ensure the others supporting him and scamming and scammer supporting are removed also.. Oh dear, we have just scraped through the bottom of the barrel of tman supporters into the dirt below. Cabalism13 is here ... yuck. You know they are getting desperate when they roll out that slobbering desperate wretch. |
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no trolling here, pointing out all the inconsistencies in your thread, the fact you think an API Key is a bitcoin private key for one, the fact you are showing a 900 BTC bankroll to make your service look legit - plus many other things in your thread that are straight out wrong. so yes Ill stop calling you a cunt when you stop acting like one and stop trying to scam people with your $10 VPS fee on top of your 30% fee. you also offered people to deposit into your account and you would give them a view key to see the balance, all in all the net of this is that you are a skam man, you can call me all you fucking want but I wont stop pointing out your skammy behavior just because you are a little princess and don't like being sworn at you twat What about the fact you are an auction scammer. This is a thread about YOU right. Stop derailing. 1. you are an auction scammer 2. you are implicated in a serious extortion attempt 3. you support lauda who is a proven scammer, trust abuser and implicated in extortion, BIG shady escrow. 4. you are a self confessed trust abuser of whistle blowers. These are CONFIRMED and undeniable. No point trying to point the fingers at other members to detract from these observable instances in your past history that clearly demonstrate you have NO POSITION in default trust The extra points that you (tman) are racist and that the vast majority of your posts are foul language and sexually deviant with NO substance of value to them is just the icing on the cake. These are minor points but when coupled with the other undeniable scamming , trust abusing and scammer supporting points make a clear case for your removal from DT and merit source. |
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@cryptosparks..
they will do NOTHING. The only way is for a union to be formed. The sytems of control are stacked FULL with undeniable scammers and scammer supporters. The mods are wearing sigs paid by these and their pals. Nothing will be done at an admin level there is too much incentive for collusion.
You and all the others that are unhappy with the abuse and treatment at the hands of these scammers will need to form a UNION. Then organize and collude together to crush them. There is no other way.
Do you really think the admin here are ignorant to the observable instances of scamming and other foul deeds of these DT/ merit sources?? of course they are aware they will do nothing because it is not in their interest to do so.
Only way is a UNION you only need about 20 driven people to give these scammers a real crushing. Start a union for all the abused to rise up together and organize or else nothing will change.
No more double standards and 2 tier rule systems where they are clear scammers but get on default trust and others they claim are " suspected" financially high risk are punished. Only a union can stop this now. The systems of control primarily merit are so broken and they are too entrenched now to be removed via working within those systems. They have red marks , you have posts and clear evidence of their scamming. In the end a union will win.
Where does a proven scammer get to cast someone as financially dangerous for whistle blowing on them?? bitcointalk that is where.
There are many attack vectors for a union to bring this colluding ring of scammers/scammer supporters down hard. You only need to crush a few the rest will jump ship. Tman is a soft target and needs to be taken out of DT and merit source but he is just an imbecile who is actually a useful attack vector to get at the other more dangerous scammers. Last thing you want is tman banned. If any person is going to fuck up and endanger the rest of the colluding scammers it will be him.
One thing more is : do not always think of only yourself and protecting your own interests. The interests of other honest members being abused by these scammers should also be defended. If you allow others to be abused without assisting them you are enabling them and allowing others to believe they are untouchable and that aligning with them is the only way forward.
Tmans racism and foul language is not the primary danger posed by him and his pals. The forums entire free speech is being crushed by these colluding scammers that control merit/trust. That's not considering the financial danger they pose at a far higher level than the 2 bit scammers they use to virtue signal and validate their positions.
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I would suggest seeing there is multiple users supporting this ban based on UNDENIABLE instances of behavior ranging from sub optimal to out right scamming and punishing of whistle blowers.
That a UNION be formed. Therefore even if theymos will take no action against tman ( which is 99.99% going to be the case here) You can unite , organize and make sure his time here is hell (WHILST KEEPING WITH IN THE RULES).
You must also Organize and collude together AS THEY ARE DOING to pool your resources or else you will never stand any chance of ousting them from their entrenched positions from which they can abuse you.
His ban is POINTLESS he will just return under another alt ( of which I am sure he has many) you must form a UNION to make sure that there is not a 2 tier rule system here. That means you will need to work together to achieve this. These people need REMOVAL from position of power aka merit source and DT. They can do little damage once this is achieved.
Although they should have their merits reduced and frozed under the 250 threshold for DT control and sig removed too.
Without a union NOTHING will change here. Racism and foul language alone will never get him banned anyway. We don't want to start encroaching on free speech anyway.
However if you are financially danagerous and you can not present posts that demonstrate some original thought provoking and important ideas then you have NO business being a merit source. Imagine giving merit source to someone as stupid and corrupt as tman?
Better to ask for his removal from DT ( real blacklisting of all DT levels) and take away his merit source than for a ban (which will not happen) or constantly look out for his undeniable trolling which he uses to derail and detract threads away from observable instances of the undeniable prior wrong doing of him and his scamming pals.
CRYPTOSPARKS - do not let YOGG derail your thread here to focus on you. He is an observable scammer support of tmans and laudas many times before. Yogg tman lauda owlcatz thenewanon23443 all of these fortune jack scammers are in on it together.
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It does sound like you're mad. Sounds like you are a scammer trying to be funny and prevent the honest member from finding out the truth about you and tman and the need for you guys to be taken out of DT and merit source. Here let me help them... quoted from the dirty turd thread of ours. TMANThis person is clearly a low functioning imbecile. We have previously challenged it to present it best original thought inspiring posts for analysis (since his account was showered in merits to boost it from hero to legendary. He could not provide ANYTHING of real value or merit. He claims he is given merit because people find his swearing and sexual deviant ramblings are entertaining. So he has zero value with regard reaching the optimal solution or opinion. He simply does not have the capacity to add any kind of value to this board. He is also implicated in some VERY dirty and dangerous behaviors here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0His known PALS both owlcatz and lauda are both implicated in the same extortion attempt. Seems Tman also is not above a bit of scamming directly when it suits him (we quote OG below who discovered this) "TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931778.msg19286369#msg19286369Admission it was his auction: "Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.msg19349060#msg19349060 " Tman has also admitted in black and white that he used the trust system to punish those that present observable instances (facts) of wrong doing by his friend Lauda. This DIRTY TURD is currently a merit source and DT. Time to flush that filthy piece of shit. Lauda or LaudaMWell, where does one start with this filth bag. Scammer, liar, trust abuser, implicated in extortion schemes and shady looking escrow deals. If a persons should even present observable instances of his wrong doing he plastered their accounts with red trust, that was doubled up on by TMAN, Owlcatz and Yogg the fool. Here read Lauda the (prior) MOD, DT, - one of the most widely trusted members here (by other scumbag DT members) These corrupt bunch of shit stains would not even remove him from DT after seeing this evidence many times. Even at the request of Theymos they would not remove this filthy piece of scamming dirt. Finally he was removed from DT1 by theymos manually. NOT for all this prior observable scamming and dangerous actions but it seems because he was still determined to use the trust system to silence any critic of his. For some reason his OBVIOUS prior abuse still remains as a mark other members accounts WHY?? Enjoy Lauda's CV for a trust position. We quote our own prior investigative work and that of others investigative work below. 1. lauda, owlcatz , tman - extortion attempt which many senior members believe WAS a real attempt to extort another member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected? 2. laudas et als shady looking escrow dealings concerning 3000BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.msg44083126#msg44083126a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected? 3. laudas PROVEN lie for financial gain (SCAMMING) that he was on the launch of xcoin/dark and there was NO Instamine whilst holding bags of it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg6748208#msg6748208a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member? b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected? If you say you would encourage others to read though his post history you got a scam tag which his friends Tman, Yogg and owlcatz then doubled down on when you started to point out that people should be made aware of their trust abuse. SCUM BAGS that are still on DT Huh This Dirty Turd has been semi- flushed but there are serious stain marks left in the bowl. There ... now along with the RACISM AND FOUL LANGUAGE we have a far stronger case to see such dregs removed from positions of TRUST where they can do MORE damage. |
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Sounds like ad hominem to me. Sorry no derailing . Just tackle the observable instances of yours and tmans past histories here consisting of scamming, trust abusing, extortion, shady escrow + the foul language and racism thrown in for good measure usually used to shout down and attempted bullying of whistle blowers when the trust abusing does not cut it. The racism and foul language ALONE perhaps not enough for a ban or removal of dt/merit source. However once you start to bring in the other undeniably financially dangerous actions from tman and yourself then this is a much stronger case for some action. This should be brought against ALL those that have deliberately tried to protect you from punishment and support you for default trust. This is all very dangerous for honest members here. |
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TMAN is just a an unattended child troll, each of his posts is just to insult
unfortunately the bad administration of btctalk, leads to this type of people, has killed the trust that this site had years ago
I wonder whose alt you are. Can you make it any more obvious? LOL can YOU make it more obvious LAUDA Look who is here now scamming royalty. Lauda, tman, yogg, ... where is owlcatz>?? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0These colluders all rush to protect and support each other. Who's alt are you dirt bag?? Besides where is actmyname for the ad hominem lecture here?? seems to have forgotten about ad hominem now. Most of the tman colluding protection squad here have been launching in to ad hominem since the start of this thread and have derailed it not to be about tmans racisim and constant low functioning tourettes laden spew at all. Seems to have been derailed through ad hominem to now be the OP defending his other prior actions. No doubt will be here to tell me this post is ad hominem though lol I think we need to analyse 1. who are including who here on DT 2. who's merits come from who (hence allowing them to select each other on DT) 3. who is SPAMMING THE HIGHEST PAYING SIGS HERE 4. who have undeniable SCAMMING in their past histories. Yes I think if people are found to be deliberately gaming these systems , scamming, protecting other scammers, and punishing whistle blowers they need some punishment. If ALONG with those things above they are continuously swearing and cursing with NO OTHER SUBSTANCE to their posts and proliferating FALSE information then there certainly should be some punishment. The reader should note, those protecting/supporting tman have clear motive for doing so. 1. their includes are mutually beneficial 2. their merits are cycled check their top 20 fans and recipients. 3. their highly paid sigs are reliant on this collusion 4. they are colluding in many instances of trust abuser/trust cycling 5. they are caught in acts of scamming together or defending each others past scamming by grouping to shout down or punish those that dare to whistle blow on them. 6. Theymos has a/ black listed lauda from DT1 ( half baked attempt anyway) b/ distrusts TMAN those are quite weak actions considering the clear evidence of how corrupt and dirty those 2 are but even so the reader should take that into account. |
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So back on topic ... to TMANs auction scamming defense. Where is xtraelv .... ran away again??
Since actmyname has not edited his post then we are happy to leave this as it is. The important points there we seem in agreement with
Quote from: The-One-Above-All on November 20, 2019, 12:29:40 AM
Certainly you would have less problem presenting your point as clearly and undeniably valid with many other posts here by other members.
That is true but this has already been addressed in the first post.
That seems to be the crux of the matter along with the observation that this needs to be addressed so that to appear neutral and not supporting a group of scammers ( apart from including them on default trust) the counsel needs to be applied regularly to both sides when it is applicable to both sides.
So now that we have established that nobody here can or will dare offer and alternative explanation for tmans auction scamming (deception for financial gain) although many have tried to falsely claim it is not scamming and rather he should be on default trust. We can see therefore this is misleading and a clear case of scammer supporting and protecting.
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listen here ligmaass I dislike scammers and ponzi promoters, hence why this whole thing started with your overlord cryptosparksisacunt. yes I am rude, yes I piss people off - but as long as I stop 1 person from being scammed its a net benefit. so go ligma, ligmaballs NO You are a scammer and you support, protect and enable other scammers. UNDENIABLE. Jumping on soft targets whilst you support those scammers that are far more dangerous to the community is net negative. The problem theymos has NOT realized is that even those that are perhaps engaging in what "some" would consider financially dangerous behaviors are NOT GOING TO ACCEPT punishment by UNDENIABLE SCAMMERS who collude with OTHER SCAMMERS here. Hence the entire board is going to become a full out war zone. The systems of control will not matter once you have hoards of people feeling they are victims of real scammers. Wait for it ... the entire board will just get more and more hostile and viscous. The systems that enable people like TMAN and LAUDA and Yogg and all of these colluding dirt bags to punish even whistle blowers whilst ensuring via their pals they get paid at the highest rates to promulgate their garbage all over the forum is anti satoshi and the community will not stand for it. It is just getting warmed up. Wait until these people ORGANIZE and start a union and pool their efforts to crush these bunch of self elected abusers. Then it will be fun to watch. Little red marks and hoarding merits is not going to do shit in the face of a well organized and driven union of people that are not going to endure the abuse. |
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If you think he's trolling you, you could report his posts and see what the mods do with it. I've had some angry posts of mine deleted before, and probably with good reason. Members rarely get banned for outbursts like his, and I don't even remember the last time that happened. You have to be a serious and chronic troll in order to get banned, and TMAN doesn't really fit that description despite his posts that you quoted.
Honestly, within my two years in the forum, I have never seen a single user get banned because of trolling. I saw lots of complaints on trolling and request of bans on trollers but there is no ban case I saw with my eyes. That's likely because most members here scream trolling in the face of observable instances and are not trolling at all. TMAN on the other hand is an undeniable troll. He is constantly claiming observable instances are trolling. Since that is undeniably FALSE then by repeating this constantly he is trolling and should be having his sig removed for a period of time as a warning not to continue to DELIBERATELY seek to mislead honest members here. If this does not assist him in realizing he should stop this them a temp ban can be issued at a later stage. Screaming trolling is a tool scammers often use to throw doubt over observable instances presented as clear evidence of their prior wrong doing. Tman though is an undeniable scammer as per the board rules. |
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Anyway i thought this was a thread about how racist and vulgar TMAN is
I am as vulgar as they come to shitcunts like you who wish to scam and manipulate words, this is a community who hate scammers like you - $10 VPS, 5% per month returns, API key is a bitcoin private key come on you little taint licker I can do this shit all day, BUT BUT BUT# 1. You are an undeniable auction scammer 2. You are a self confessed trust abuser 3. You are an undeniable supporter of other proven scammers 4. You can NOT present an original thought provoking post you have ever made for analysis 5. You have ZERO achievements here after being here for years. I would not say your comments cross the threshold of HATE speech so I don't think a ban could/should issued on these grounds. I would suggest though that 1/ tman is removed from merit souce 2/ tman is black listed from DT (properly not the half baked waste of time pretend ban his scamming friend lauda was given) The only people backing Tman here are the same people in the merit cycling / trust inclusion circle that are just as dirty as he is. Get the entire pack of scum off of DT and take away their merit cycling powers. Having someone as observable low functioning as tman and undeniably dirty and scamming as tman as a default trust member/ merit source makes this entire board look like a corrupt laughing stock. |
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saving this spot to reply directly to actmyname... we are scooting out for a bit this evening but don't wish reams of scammer supporter drivel injected between our two posts.
We immediately notice a couple of small points...
chode is not our word or one we were familiar with, we copied that from nutildahs fun poll about CH on his account sales thread. I think that context need be examined again by actmyname. That I recall was clearly a shout out to his poll and a clear reference to his use of it ...
The goal posts seem to have been moved from us claiming the single post in question (to which we referring) was not clearly ad hominem to apparently claiming we have indulged in a little cathartic ad hominem retaliation here and there in the past.
There seems to be a multiple query next to the same foxpoop terms. Is there need for more than one example? Not that we mind of course but it was just an unexpected elongation of a list that could have been filled with more variation perhaps.
When debating with actmyname then clear examples and analogies can be useful since it is not always clear to us what point he is making. It does become clear when examples are used.
However, these kind of interactions are always interesting and we like to work with others to arrive at the optimal solution or outcome.
This part is also confusing...
"Refer to the above for examples of non-scammer insults and attacks."
since then the explanation is given, would it not be best to remove those that are scammer/scammer supporting related from that list in this instance? Once those are removed and the foxpoopers are consolidated, then the list will be significantly shorter ... and none if any at all would remain that are directly relevant to our defense of the post singled out for an actmyname selective counselling of the use of ad hominem.
Although we would be willing to present context where those others would by our " current" opinion not be ad hominem attacks.
These kinds of debates are useful even if not strictly on topic so better to go with those and enjoy them rather than constantly debunking the excuses and deliberate attempts at derailing and diverting of the same old scammer supporters over and over.
Later we can get back to the analysis of the observable instances in the initial post and as to whether people such as those should be in positions of TRUST.
I mean the thread has been so derailed and diverted and corrupted by (as actymyname clearly seems to acknowledge) undeniable and indefensible accounts of sustained ad hominem attacks of other members we can take a break from that now to debate on something a little more sensible,more cordial/measured and reasonable way.
We ask actmyname looks over his post and then decide if any edits are required. If they decide not, then fair enough we shall seek to answer as is.
Although two wrongs do not make a right as you say actmyname, i think it is sensible to counsel as frequently and fairly as you possibly can both sides. I mean fair is subjective but I think it would be universally accepted that to counsel/chastise one child constantly when both ( in your opinion) are doing wrong would indicate some form of bias even if not a conscious act.
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So rather than keep to a definition that is objectively enforceable and sensible to ensure only information that is presented as true is true. You want a definition that means the mods would need complete knowledge of every members life to enforce that is therefore meaningless and valueless. Anything could be inflammatory if you have personal knowledge of a persons life that may not even seem inflammatory to other readers at all. Trolling from a forums perspective is only objectively enforceable using the forums definition in the rules as they are now.
I mean it is clear that you are afraid of needing to demonstrate any of our central points have been debunked, aka you know you can not debunk them because they are observable instances and are true.
You can't debunk them ( because they are true) so you want definition where they can be true and have value but be called trolling because it is inflammatory to call scammers and scammer supporters... filthy skanky scammers or disgusting shit stain ass kissing scammer supporters. haha
Clearly trying to weasel out of the requirement of demonstrating they can debunk or demonstrate our central points are incorrect.
Can't debunk an observable instance or demonstrate it is incorrect = THEN IT IS NOT TROLLING - got it scammer supporter.
Claiming independently verifiable observable instances are TROLLING when you know you can not debunk them is TROLLING TROLLING and should be punished to prevent this method of hiding, obscuring, derailing and generally trying to cast doubt upon the truth that you know you can not debunk because it is TRUE.
Take these scammers supporters sigs away and watch them squeal like the weasels they are.
So here we have it, there is no credible and valid objection from them to being called scammers or scammer supporters, it seems like just don't like being called filthy dirty skanky scammers or degenerate asskissing servile scummy scam supporters.
Tough shit scum bags.
Rather than using a made up definition that suits your narrative I simply suggested using a definition that is more universally accepted as trolling. Your comments clearly show that you have no understanding of the forum rules or forum ethos. The moderators haven't removed your obvious condescending posts that attempt to insult yet you are advocating removing or banning anyone that calls you a troll. Which would be censorship. Something you claim is bad. All indicators show that your expletive laden word walls are nothing other than trolling. They show your argument to be contradictory and weak.This is easily proven by the lack of others supporting you (other than "we" and alts) in any of your threads. Everything indicates towards you being an angry entitled young child that still lives at home with mommy. Your demeanor shows you get an observable thrill from inflaming people. You contradictory statements show you have no real ethos. Clearly a narcissistic troll that is still lives with their mommy. Lacking any real social skills. A made up definition ? by the forum?? haha Suits our narrative? is this more time travelling? maybe we are theymos? and decided that definition and rule suited our narrative in the future when we decided to use it. Like now. I think we already debunked the usefulness of trying to employ the undeniably universally accepted definition of trolling on an anonymous forum. You would need total knowledge of every single member to correctly recognize and verify trolling which perhaps even you may realize is impossible. I mean SS for all of his lemon induced crazyness did correctly realize that what one member knows inflames another may seem neutral or ludicrous to other members. Like enjoying lemon tea for example. How would a mod be able to correctly analyse and be on the lookout for such comments. Hence the clear and USEFUL and objectively verifiable definition the board chooses to implement and rule upon. Sorry if that does not suit YOUR narrative. Which even if it DID would define everyone on this thread and the DT thread as trolls and see them all banned you fool. Plus to deliberately inflame and punish scammers and scammer supporters is net positive for a forum and sub optimal to try to prevent it. Unless you want to place at higher risk honest members? That is clearly what you seek to do. We like to watch how you lurch from one debunked point to another with no shame or perhaps no real realization of what you are doing haha. It is simply like triggering you to self abuse and self harm over and over again. We can hardly wait for your next viscous attack upon yourself. We keep trying to give you opportunities to stop degrading and debasing yourself in public but you just keep fighting on for your right to self denigrate yourself. It is becoming less satisfactory but at least you keep dragging all those scammers along through the mud with you so we are powerless to stop our selves allowing you to do so haha Please stop, it is upsetting to see you like this xtraelv. We have little empathy for scammer supporters like you but this is now cruel to watch. Just stop defending and supporting your scammer pals for a second. Even they must be begging you to stop ahah "The moderators haven't removed your obvious condescending posts that attempt to insult yet you are advocating removing or banning anyone that calls you a troll. Which would be censorship. Something you claim is bad."
Someone help this poor cretin please. 1. present the condescending posts that are clearly debunked as untrue and baseless 2. Attempt to insult? if stating the truth is also insulting then ....haha sorry about that. 3. banning, removing people?? calls me a troll?? - err do you mean banning sigs on those that try to claim that observable instances of scamming are TROLLING and therefore placing honest members at financial high risk?? yes they should be punished their sigs won't prevent them from contributing will it? 4. Stopping people supporting, protecting and excusing those that are scamming others, or punishing them is censorship you say? well that may be so but refraining someone from taking your stealing your things may be selfish and invading their personal space.... this is where you call agent foxpoop in he will back you up for sure. I mean the board rules clearly say, that deliberate proliferation of debunked or incorrect information as true is trolling. So you claiming that observable instances are trolling aka untrue meets that direct defintion does it not? so you must be warned and then if you continue must face a punishment. Condescending ? is that in the rules? Calling a proven scammer a filthy dirty piece of shit scammer.... is that in the rules?? Calling a scammer protector and excuse provider an ass licking low down sickening drooling scum bag scammer supporter... is that in the rules?? I don't think correctly associating negative actions with negative words that correctly sums them up is against the rules is it? "All indicators show that your expletive laden word walls are nothing other than trolling. They show your argument to be contradictory and weak.This is easily proven by the lack of others supporting you (other than "we" and alts) in any of your threads. "
There are no valid indicators as we keep debunking every single one of your points haha No contradiction, no weakness. LOL at meta board beneficiaries of the status quo not supporting changing anything = proof haha How about the LACK of debunking any of our central points bozo ?? haha The observable instances require ZERO support. Get that into your thick skull. Everything indicates towards you being an angry entitled young child that still lives at home with mommy. Your demeanor shows you get an observable thrill from inflaming people. You contradictory statements show you have no real ethos. Clearly a narcissistic troll that is still lives with their mommy. Lacking any real social skills.Inflammatory comments ... trolling, please stop, haha No denying that crushing, humiliating and generally degrading (if that is possible) scammers and scammer supporters like xtraelv is pleasurable and satisfying. Nom nom nom. Again NO contradictory statements. No trolling ( as per the board sensible definition, that we keep using for our own personal gain haha) LOVE HOW THESE IDIOTS SCREAM FOR BANNING PEOPLE THEY FALSELY ACCUSE OF BEING A TROLL ( but can provide even ONE instance where they have debunked their central points) . THEN CRY WHEN YOU WANT THE BOARDS RULES ( that clearly can be demonstrated to define them as trolling scum bags) ON TROLLING TO APPLY TO THEM AND ONLY HAVE THEIR SIGS TAKEN AWAY.... haha the real bitcoin enthusiasts are here. LOL So they incorrectly and deliberately call your posts trolling and THEY continually BEG for your ban then when you Correctly demonstrate the boards rules clearly define their actions as trolling and they should just have a sig ban THEY COMPLAIN THAT YOU ASK... haha xtraelv is the most entertaining yet. I mean nobody takes a debunking session like this dude and keeps going. Only the very most shameless self abuser could endure this. Imagine if we could get a few like him. We could use them to turn up the heat on their scamming buddies no end. The compilation xtraelv role play we are going to make in his honor will be spectacular. Their refusal to accept trolling as the presenting as true previously conclusively debunked or incorrect information MEANS THEY KNOW AND ACCEPT they can NOT debunk any of our central points. They are accepting this now clearly. Not that this was not OBVIOUS since they all ran from any challenge to present our debunked central points time and time again. They know they are scammers, they know they are scammer supporters. They are trying to claim these observable instances are trolling and leverage that to beg for a ban to silence whistle blowing again. Not that that would even work. You can not prevent the presentation of observable instances of wrong doing in your post histories. You have done wrong, you must face the fact people can mention it and should continuously mention it whilst you are in positions of trust. Get them out. |
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