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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 11, 2015, 02:58:34 PM
The most popular proposals are moneroeconomy.com, monero-economy.com and monero-mew.com, all ex aequo.
Now if we consider only votes after the final list (some people updated their votes, some did not so we don't know if they decided to stick with their choice or did not know about the new options) then we have moneroeconomy.com, with 4 "updated" vote
(all the othe have less "updated" votes - the closest contender is xmrmonero.com with 2 votes or 3 if we consider that smooth, being active here, just did not change his mind.

Reminder: community voting is consultative only - see it as a "primary". Internal voting at MEW will decide.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread on: February 11, 2015, 02:57:36 PM
The most popular proposals are moneroeconomy.com, monero-economy.com and monero-mew.com, all ex aequo.
Now if we consider only votes after the final list (some people updated their votes, some did not so we don't know if they decided to stick with their choice or did not know about the new options) then we have moneroeconomy.com, with 4 "updated" vote
(all the othe have less "updated" votes - the closest contender is xmrmonero.com with 2 votes or 3 if we consider that smooth, being active here, just did not change his mind.

Reminder: community voting is consultative only - see it as a "primary". Internal voting at MEW will decide.
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 11, 2015, 02:48:15 PM
When Monero is really better than Darkcoin why is then Monero at 23 centīs??
Marketing plus reuse of the Bitcoin architecture.
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread on: February 11, 2015, 02:46:01 PM
monerohub (.com?) sounds interesting to me too, but it may be even farther from the initial idea - support for MEW.

Also, as idea: voting for these ideas should be "checkbox based", not "radiobutton based" (I don't know how to explain better/easier). And the name with more points will "win".
Just.. yeah... this idea came a little late and may not be useful for current voting, for the main reason that the voting has already started with another "set of rules".
You mean a binary Instant-runoff voting? That is, several yes, but no ranking between the yes?

There is no voting in the community (the Drupal module advanced poll may allow the technical part of it, though). MEW uses First-past-the-post voting with weighted voting (Risto calls it "stake-o-cracy") and show of hand. Not this is is a MEW vote (so it doesn't apply here), just for information.
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 11, 2015, 02:29:04 PM
Still waiting for 'magic' wallet with tears and bootle of cheap brandy.
www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2uqsl6/why_is_the_official_gui_wallet_not_released_yet/
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread on: February 11, 2015, 02:26:31 PM
What do you guys think of monerocentral/monerohub as in "a hub for info and discussion about monero (XMR)"?

If this sucks my vote goes to xmrmonero.com

EDIT:
Regarding SEO,. Wouldn't we want to focus that effort around words like "privacy", "security", "cryptocurrency". I mean, if someone is googling monero most of the work is already done - at least at this stage. We should target people who are unaware of the existence of monero or of its importance to privacy minded individuals.

I agree that this will be all about content, hence the importance of the Blogs (if i'm not mistaken google gives more weight to constantly updated content).
Shall I add you on
monerocentral (dot what?)
monerohub (dot what?)
xmrmonero.com
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 11, 2015, 01:49:13 AM
Monero-economy.com has my support.

That "-" looks unappealing.
Do you mean you vote for moneroeconomy.com ? I need to know to update the list (or not)

Also, I added some recommendation on the list. About following links on voters and reading the latest posts on the MEW thread.
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread on: February 11, 2015, 01:45:50 AM
A site about Monero will naturally use the terms "Monero" and "XMR" so a search engine encountering for example xmrmonero.com would parse the name since it is considering the whole site not just the domain name when ranking the site. If there is one thing about SEO that I have learned over the years is that one has to consider the whole site not just the domain name, keywords, links, content etc. A possible concern about this is because the terms are not that well known is why I considered xmr-monero.com at a point; however upon giving this more thought I still consider xmrmonero.com the best choice since the site will naturally use both of these terms.
Do you mean we should focus on the use case being "type monero on Google" and not "go to something.com"?

I have the feeling that when asked to go to something.com, people actually go to google and type something.com.
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Most Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 6 Themes on: February 11, 2015, 01:24:17 AM
Out of curiosity: what is your highest block height atm? My highest is at 237231.
242455 is my newest high.
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread on: February 11, 2015, 12:48:39 AM
Massive update on the voting list, please check
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 11, 2015, 12:47:21 AM
My (current) choice: moneroeconomy.com
Rationales:
1. smooth wrote: "bitcoin.org and bitcoinfoundation.org (again note the lack of a hyphen -- why are we going off and doing what almost nobody else does with their site name?)"

2. moneroeconomy.com is human-readable and can be parsed by search engines as "monero economy" (not sure xmrmonero would be)

3. dashed version would only result in a very slight improvement, SEO-wise. I consider the improvement is not worth the disadvantage of not following point 1 above.
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 11, 2015, 12:25:50 AM
Lists updated with latest feedback from MEW and ANN.

An important note from smooth
bitcoin.org and bitcoinfoundation.org (again note the lack of a hyphen -- why are we going off and doing what almost nobody else does with their site name?).
Just after Artic proposes that the vote should be split in two parts:

One aspect of this vote that is important is that there are two different issues here. The word combination and whether to use a dash or not. So we should vote on pairs xmrmonero.com / xmr-monero.com vs gomonero.com / go-monero.com vs moneromerw.com / monero-mew.com and then decide on the use of dash or not as the primary domain with the other domain in the pair as the 301 redirect.

I will be using xmrmonero.com / xmr-monero.com as the example since that is the pair I support. The non dash version is considered by far the stronger domain and is by far the most readable when used. It is also the best when the domain is communicated orally. The only advantage of the dashed domain is a possible slight advantage in SEO; however this is counterbalanced by the possibility that it could be considered aggressive SEO and be penalized. My own experience with using the dash vs no dash version on my own websites is comparable SEO results with a very slight bias in favour of the dash version. For everything else the non dash version wins hands down. For this SEO reason I had a very slight preference for the dash version and voted accordingly.

smooth has made a very strong case in favour of the non dash version which is way more than enough to swing my vote in favour of the non dash version. So I am changing my vote to xmrmonero.com.

So:
* dashed or undashed
* words to use

I am convinced to move to nondashed so I will update the voting list accordingly (again, yes, I know).
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 10, 2015, 11:23:39 PM
Latest "snapshot". Up-to-date list here (ANN) and here (ANN):

monero-mew.com: (3) Moneromoo, GreekBitcoin, Lloydimiller4
xmr-monero.com: (3) florida.haunted, ArticMine, GingerAle
xmrmonero.com: (1) smooth
go-monero.com: (0)
gomonero.com: (0)
xmr-economy.com: (1) 5w00p
monero-economy.com: (4) David Latapie, NeuroticFish, Jojatekok, equipoise
monero-economy-workgroup.com: (1) arnuschky
mew-monero.com: (1) Hueristic
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread on: February 10, 2015, 11:12:17 PM
I didn't see the actual vote yet but sure.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg10417386#msg10417386
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776479.msg10417348#msg10417348

I'd futher add to what ArticMine said, which is that perhaps there should even be two different sites (they can of course link to each other and/or share content where appropriate): 1) The MEW site itself (about MEW) and a new-user-focused outreach, promotion, and education site (which can be viewed more as a "project" of MEW according to the original charter). Various names like monero-economy and monero-mew make a lot of sense for 1) but not for 2). The main difference would be naming and the front page.
An "about" page and a "member's section" should suffice, no? I'd rather avoid multiplying website. This is one of the reason I chose Drupal: a wiki, a forum, a corporate website, a blog farm an e-commerce site, a CRM... all in the same box with the same look and feel and credential and without bloating it like a WordPress attempt would.

Also, one more thing. I see no harm in a forum poll to discuss ideas but a final decision should be made by the MEW membership. This should include an explicit statement of the budget for the project (which could be zero if all resources are being donated).
Updated the posts.

Latest "snapshot". Up-to-date list here (ANN) and here (ANN):

monero-mew.com: (3) Moneromoo, GreekBitcoin, Lloydimiller4
xmr-monero.com: (3) florida.haunted, ArticMine, GingerAle
xmrmonero.com: (1) smooth
go-monero.com: (0)
gomonero.com: (0)
xmr-economy.com: (1) 5w00p
monero-economy.com: (4) David Latapie, NeuroticFish, Jojatekok, equipoise
monero-economy-workgroup.com: (1) arnuschky
mew-monero.com: (1) Hueristic
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 10, 2015, 10:47:28 PM
HyperStake is the first cryptocurrency after Monero to uses OpenAlias. Granted, not HyperStake itself, but one of its IRC bot, named... hyppero

It that names rings a bell, this is normal. The bot is maintained by tippero's maintainer, MoneroMoo.

I'd like to mention that Myriadcoin is interested in porting OpenAlias (What is OpenAlias). HyperStake would miss the "first Bitcoin fork with OpenAlias" prize but it would then be easy to port it too.

As an encouragement, the IRC bot in ##hyp-games already allows you to withdraw your HYP using OpenAlias - should you have setup a oa1:hyp line on a domain's TXT record.

Long instructions on using it, also applies to tippero: OpenAlias with HyperStake.

Since Myriadcoin is interested too, we now have a total of four cryptos to possibly use OpenAlias: Monero, HyperStake, Myriadcoin and Bitcoin if the Electrum PR is accepted.


Long live the cow!

A pony, a cow... Monero is becoming the Old McDonald farm. The McMonero farm!

Old MacMonero had a farm, E-I-E-I-O,
And on that farm he had a pony, E-I-E-I-O,
Old MacMonero had a farm, E-I-E-I-O,
And on that farm he had a cow, E-I-E-I-O,
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / OpenAlias with HyperStake on: February 10, 2015, 10:24:25 PM
I'd like to mention that Myriadcoin is interested in porting OpenAlias (What is OpenAlias). HyperStake would miss the "first Bitcoin fork with OpenAlias" prize but it would then be easy to port it too.

As an encouragement, the IRC bot in ##hyp-games already allows you to withdraw your HYP using OpenAlias - should you have setup a oa1:hyp line on a domain's TXT record.


Excellent thing. I created two specific addresses so that we can keep track of donation in OpenAlias. One is david.latapie.name, which points to my own address and the second and most important one is donate.hyperstake.com.
Use the code below on your own server

Code:
Name: donate.hyperstake.com.
TTL: 14400
Type: TXT
TXT Data: oa1:hyp recipient_address=pAvP3gYfuyDVbUt98ToMbwU9rwEdBV1dHW; recipient_name=HyperStake community wallet\; tx_description=Donations to make HyperStake a better coin and secure the network with more trusted staking\;




Now if you want to test the thing, choose one of these two options (make sure to have at least 21 HYP there first - if you don't ask your address with !deposit then send)

Option 1
Code:
/join ##hyp-games
!withdraw donate.hyperstake.com 20

Option 2
Code:
/query #hyppero
!withdraw donate.hyperstake.com 20

Notice that, when you configure the DNS, you end with a period, but when you send, you omit the period.

Since this is the same address as the community wallet, there is no way to discriminate if money was sent directly (raw address) or through the openalias (except DNS logs, but most DNS servers do not track logs and I am not even sure I would know how to access the said logs for hyperstake.com).

Remember also, that with like anything DNS, it requires up to 48 hours to take effect, due to DNS propagation (in effect, though, 3 hours seems good enough). Which means you should not try this address before severa hours (like tomorrow, after a good night of sleep, should be good).

hyppero checks before sending so your money shall not be lost if the address does not exist (or is not propagated yet). If you want to force a check without sending HYP, use the !resolve command with hyppero or ##hyp-games
Code:
!resolve donate.hyperstake.com

Example if you send to an incorrect address
Code:
<davidlatapie> !resolve donate.hyperstake.com
<hyppero> Error: not found
<davidlatapie> !withdraw donate.hyperstake.com 20
<hyppero> Error: not found

Hopefully Matylda will soon follow.
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread on: February 10, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
Smooth, shall I understand you are voting for xmrmonero.com?

The list is updated with feedback from both the ANN and the MEW thread - the votes on the two URL below have kept in sync. Please everyone review if your intent is on par with what is written.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg10417386#msg10417386 (ANN list)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776479.msg10417348#msg10417348 (MEW list)
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 10, 2015, 09:23:50 PM
My vote is for xmr-monero.com, but as I seem to note that florida.haunted's and at least one other's votes for it seem to be missing from the list, I ask:

Must one be a MEW member to cast a counted vote?
I reseted the vote, but it seems like a bad idea, since 1) new ideas are being proposed constantly 2) it is understood as restricted voting.
So I will just add everyone, and I leave it to early voters to decide if they want to change their vote at the light of the new proposals.

The list is updated with feedback from both the ANN and the MEW thread - the votes on the two URL below have kept in sync. Please everyone review if your intent is on par with what is written.

As an exceptional measure, everyone has an equal footing: 1000 votes or 0 vote (not a MEW member), your vote count as much.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg10417386#msg10417386 (ANN list)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776479.msg10417348#msg10417348 (MEW list)
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 10, 2015, 05:31:30 PM
Updated and added NeuroticFish's proposals. So you can change your vote if you wish. Neuroti, please state the one you would vote for.
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread on: February 10, 2015, 05:31:06 PM
Updated and added NeuroticFish's proposals. So you can change your vote if you wish.
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