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2601  Other / Meta / Re: Is this merit system abuse on: November 02, 2022, 05:53:06 PM
Without going in to specifics of the case you mentioned, overall in short the merit system is broken and needs a complete overhaul. I have said that before recently in a different thread and I still feel the same way. If you continue looking through the forum you will find many cases of ridiculous amounts of merits being awarded for what seem to be posts that did not deserve it and of course you will see a pattern where certain members will be sending and receiving merits between themselves over a period of time. It happens.

Again, without going in to the specifics of the case you mentioned, maybe onlookers especially newbies looking at merits being awarded for highly questionable posts will probably cite anything from sending merits too generously to merit abuse. As for the awarder, there will be a defence of saying they saw fit to it and you cannot really argue with that view either.

If memory serves correct there was also a time when merits were being questioned I recall a merit source saying it was better to award merits before the merit source was refilled and maybe theymos was quoted (I need to see if I can find the link to be sure).

Anyway, unless there is open merit abuse it is highly unusual to question anybody about why they awarded merits to a particular member or post and the awarder is under no obligation to explain why they awarded 'x' merits to a particular post. This can be seen as something highly problematic especially for newbies because they are finding their feet in the forum when they see some members receiving merits for posts that in their opinion simply did not deserve it but on the whole I think the merit system needs a re-think by theymos to bring it more up to date as it is not fit for purpose.

You did nothing wrong by bringing your questions here. You have just as much right to post here with your questions, concerns and even complaints as much as any other member in the forum.

Having said all that, welcome to the forum, I hope you have a great journey like I and so many others have had here and I look forward to reading your comments and positive contributions.

You are currently a Jr member, I hope you increase your ranks in the coming weeks and months working your way up to Legendary in a short space of time  Smiley

Please note this post is not intended to disrespect anyone, I'm just a curious newbie on the Platform, who wants to know as much as possible on how the forum operate. So if you feel offended, I'm sorry as it's not my intentions to.

• Reading from various section of the platform I discover that higher rank members are always meriting themselves, despite the level of low quality post, why newbies ends up with nothing irrespective of how informative their post is. This system isn't really favorable to Newbies.

• Reading from post history of some of Higher rank members, I discover a lot of low quality Contents, yet they rank up so many merits, Same goes to some newbies with so much positivity, full of information on their content, such post might just end up getting one merit, Why legendary members with low quality Contents, rank up so many merits. I'm wondering why it's so

• Having gone through so many sections of the platform, One can easily discover that there are some group of people that keeps meriting various post, This are the higher rank members who are always at the forefront in seeing newbies grow and increase their rank. And a big thank you to them all

After my observation, i concluded that most higher rank members are selfish with the merit system.

Also few days ago, I came across a post, With random low content, yet one of the higher rank member sent out 30 plus merit to such a low content post. And I'm wondering, what's going on, this prompt this to my head.

" the merit system has been greatly abused by some higher rank members "
2602  Other / Meta / Re: Public request to Theymos for a name change on: November 02, 2022, 04:57:19 PM
I have seen name change applications be successful, it is unfortunate your application did not succeed.

As NeuroticFish stated, maybe Christmas will have the desired effect on theymos and you will receive your present. Just another 8 weeks to go and if that failed it will be an extra week before a new years change of might do it  Smiley

Never say never, maybe he will grant you the change as a Christmas present this year!
Well, he didn't last Christmas and he had 11 months to think about it.  I'm trying to internalize your optimism and hopefulness, but my brain keeps rejecting it, like an organ transplant failure. 
2603  Other / Meta / Re: Please permaban this scumbag. on: November 02, 2022, 04:49:46 PM
naim027

To lift the ban was a mistake but I can understand it because we all make mistakes. However, not to permaban him and his alts it's an even bigger mistake.
I am glad a thread like this was made. I was thinking of compiling some links and so on to start a thread but you got there first.

I think all his known alt-accounts should be permanently banned: AnotherAlt, Crypt0S0ul, naim027, Dic3L0v3r

Yes it was, he should never have been unbanned but when he was using his alt-accounts to pump that unban request thread over and over, one of the moderators unbanned him and it sends out all the wrong signals.

What positive contribution does he make to the forum?
None, he is a complete waste of space.

Nothing. He lies, manipulates, makes people believe he is a good person and a victim of circumstances while he breaks all the rules. Today he is lecturing people in the Reputation Section:
Exactly, I read that post too. The man is a compulsive liar with serious issues.

There are many reasons to ban him, but mostly that he ban evaded repeatedly. Anyway, I am sure he will create new alts and farm them up, but at least it will cost him time and effort. And I hope he's dumb enough to get caught again.
He is too selfish and a compulsive liar therefore he will slip up and his other alt-accounts will be linked. It is quite clear he has more accounts but will they be given the time to build up and do what he primarily wants, which is to join signature campaigns.

This is almost like cryptohunter 2.0, the only difference is that he didn't red-paint everyone (yet), so the only thing we can do is wait him out until he gets bored and leaves (possibly multiple times under different accounts).
The desire on his part to join a signature campaign using multiple accounts seems to be the driving factor for him even if he has to try to lie, lie and lie again to try to get out of his own web of deceit.

He seems very determined to hang around for as long as possible and he has been logging in using more than just his naim027 account but if he ever did leave I have no doubt he would be posting inconsequential nonsense on an industrial scale before running off.
2604  Economy / Reputation / Re: How many red tags is the scammer Royse777 going to get? on: November 02, 2022, 09:52:58 AM
With all that said and done, in response to the OP I guess the answer is: Royse777 will probably receive no more or not many tags because of the time elapsed.


Royse777 I know is an honest person. People can change in time or make mistakes but I don't see a big deal here.


I also saw him for a while. I can not dishonor his contribution to this forum. He already mentioned what happened and his answers seem acceptable to me. It feels bad when we see such a dedicated person lose his hard-earned trust and reputation damaged because of one company.
2605  Economy / Reputation / Re: Royse777 is Casino Critique on: November 02, 2022, 09:46:45 AM
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Wearing a bitcoincleanup.com signature and avatar will not portray a multiple level compulsive liar such as AnotherAlt, Crypt0S0ul, naim027 and Dic3L0v3r in a good light (and those are just his known alt-accounts). Even one of the low-level trolls that is part of a tiny clique and had earlier supported him in the Bitlucy/Royse777 scam threads has left a negative tag for him  Roll Eyes

What cannot be denied is that Casino Critique took on naim027 as a team member while his account was banned, we all knew that as it was open information but only a select few were told Royse777 was behind Casino Critique therefore nobody outside that circle has the opportunity to question her about that disastrous decision.

Furthermore, Royse777 also knew that the AnotherAlt account was being operated by naim027 thus kept quiet about a ban evader. At that point the aptly named Dic3L0v3r account was known as the only alt-account naim027 operated. First the Bitlucy/Royse777 scam and then after that is this Casino Critique debacle including her dalliance with AnotherAlt, Crypt0S0ul, naim027 and Dic3L0v3r. The reputation of Royse777 is in tatters.

If the Casino Critique episode had not taken place I suppose I would have said to give it time and maybe she could rebuild her reputation but looking at the bigger picture now it will take a lot more and even then some of the red tags might never be revised.
2606  Economy / Reputation / Re: Royse777 is Casino Critique on: November 01, 2022, 07:14:09 PM
I think that's only part of it.

First of all, offering something for free is a good business strategy to stimulate sales. After the free chip offer, I was looking at the project and thinking whether to invest something. If I had, it would have been an amount I didn't mind losing, on the order of $100. But I didn't see the point. It is not the first time that I have been presented with a business project with big numbers, very well detailed, that in the end comes to nothing.

I guess it included those of us who initially supported the flag and/or left neutral feedback and then changed the feedback to neutral and withdrew support for the flag.
Casino Critique was never going to succeed if it involved Royse777 and naim027 regardless of whether they presented large numbers or not. If these types of characters were involved in any project the chances of it succeeding are extremely low no matter how many large numbers they pluck out of the air when trying to seek attention or promote their ideas or when seeking investment.

But I like to think of myself as having independence. It's not either you're with me or you're against me. Each case, taking into account the evidence presented, may lead me to one course of action or another. And for me, knowing that she had covered up for Naim027 was the straw that broke the camel's back. It made me rethink everything.
The first shroud of secrecy was Royse777 hiding her involvement in the Casino Critique project. The second shroud of secrecy was when Royse777 covered up for naim027 and associated alt-accounts.

That was a fairly low-level thing to do but she probably needed support and regular back up from any user apart from the three trolls that formed a clique and gave her unnecessary widespread boost for reasons not warranted. His AnotherAlt account trolled me for a while in support of Royse777 before giving up.

For me what stood out was incompetence and gross negligence in the way she conducted herself throughout the Bitlucy scam therefore I had to give Royse777 negative trust. I 100% agree with the feedback you left her, I would also not trust Royse777 even for $0.01 deals.

Also, there are some things that I'm becoming aware of. For example, there is supposed to be some competition between Royse777 and yahoo62278 for the management of signature campaigns.
I thought campaign managers were in most part generally respectful towards one another and there was not much friction between them. Just look at the manner in which yahoo62278 has conducted himself throughout this process, not one person can say he has been harsh with Royse777 on the contrary he has been exemplary and somewhat generous towards her considering the failings on part of Royse777.

I do think on several occasions Royse777 has attacked those questioning her conduct (myself and yahoo62278 were included) and with that aggressive stance and anger issues she failed to compose herself and articulate herself in a more acceptable manner. Her own conduct did herself no favours at all.
2607  Economy / Reputation / Re: How many red tags is the scammer Royse777 going to get? on: October 31, 2022, 08:00:05 PM
I have not gone to the story but I felt interested to reply of your comment. Why partner stands for??? Is it only to take the share of the profit? Partner has no liability for the business/customer/user? I think all the partner should have same responsibility if there happen any scam. If we can take the share of the profit then why we will stay away from the liability/responsibility???
I agree with your views. Royse777 overstepped that fine line between using her forum reputation as leverage to gain a percentage ownership of the Bitlucy website. She was contributing to several aspects of Bitlucy including running their bounty and signature campaigns in lieu of being part-owner and holding the post of Marketing Director.

At the time I was disappointed DT members did not apply negative tags in large numbers and several red tags were revised to neutral after a lot of PMs were being sent around.

None of us want to see companies scam other users. People earn their bitcoin and do not deserve to be robbed of it. The DT are also not handing out passes to users unless a story makes sense and the user in question has shown they have character and morals vs likely to scam or rob.

If you'll notice, I was 1 of the 1st to tag Royse until I felt comfortable with some answers to questions. I was not in favor of some of the attitude I felt in some responses, but ultimately I felt Royse was not the person trying to scam anyone and was in fact scammed themselves. If Royse was a newbie here and had not proven themselves in the eyes of the community, then they likely would have been tagged by multiple DT with no questions asked.
You raise a valid point, still the fact the whole debacle happened and Royse777 did not blow the whistle at the first opportunity (instead allowing it to carry on before finally coming clean well in the knowledge the delay in coming forward would have potentially have created more victims), was gross negligence. On that basis how many people can actually trust Royse777 whether the intent to scam was there or not and how does a neutral tag suffice in a situation such as this where abandonment of basic duty was at the forefront of the issues?

I understand. So the new tags were not really about the BitLucy scam and do not count towards the number of tags mentioned in the question of this thread.
So viewed this way yes LoyceV was not in fact wrong, because new elements have emerged since then
Which new elements have emerged, can you elaborate?
2608  Economy / Reputation / Re: Royse777 is Casino Critique on: October 31, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Royse777 knew naim027 had alt-accounts that were being to used to push two agendas.

Makes me wonder what the connection between Royse777 and naim027 is ??

Are they alts as well?  Both deleted their DT trust/distrust lists this same week.
AnotherAlt, Crypt0S0ul, naim027, Dic3L0v3r are known to be operated by the same puppeteer, that much has been ascertained but it seems there could be more accounts which remain unknown as of yet. Eventually he will let it slip.

As for you asking if Royse777 and naim027 are alt-accounts, that would be a huge surprise and highly unlikely scenario because they are most probably not but what cannot be denied is that naim027 was using his AnotherAlt sock-puppet account to promote the pro-Royse777 propaganda in the Bitlucy/Royse777 scam accusation threads.
2609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: October 31, 2022, 07:21:37 PM
@JollyGood Arsenal are in terrific form and I have to be honest that I have underestimated them a lot this season, but now I have no doubt in my mind that they can beat City for the league title. Furthermore Manchester United could do much better in yesterday’s match, because the competition for the top 4 spot is getting very tough hence they can’t afford to drop any more point’s or win matches with one goal only.
Arsenal are in terrific form but will they finish above Manchester City come the end of the season? Though possible I would say there was little chance. I think Manchester City will be crowned champions again but it would be great for Premier League football if Arteta managed to guide them to 1st place.

Arsenal haven't had such a dominant season for a long time, I think they are one of the biggest contenders for the championship this year. They started badly last season, but they narrowly missed the champions league in the last weeks. After getting rid of the shackles like Lacazette and Pepe and making a solid transfer like Jesus, the team changed 50 percent. Not to mention the ores sitting in the reserves. The team is very nice, but for the champions league next year, a solid defender will be needed in the style of Vermaelen or Koscielny.

Even as a footballer, Arteta was always a reassuring duty man, the backbone of Everton. Now he has the same identity, but his role is Arsenal director. A very nice rise for both Arteta, Arsenal and football fans.
Can Arteta keep Arsenal winning though? What happens when they lose a couple of games? Will the pressure be too much for him and for his relatively young team?

How was it another great weekend for EPL fans when my team got thrashed and has looked toothless in every game we've played in the last few weeks, our unbeaten streak was too good to be true, and we're back to square one? Even the game we thought would be easier for us because Potter and his management team know a lot about Brighton, but the outcome proves they don't. We are currently the worst team in the top six; others may look bad, but at least they play attractive football, whereas my team plays one of the worst.
There is more to the Premier League than Chelsea  Grin

They have been playing well under Potter but I expected a backlash from Brighton after he dumped them to go to manage Chelsea. There are 25-26 games of the season remaining, maybe Chelsea will put a winning streak together and cement their top 4 place we just do not know. I think all teams play maybe twice more before they fly off Qatar for the world cup then return back to Premier League action on Boxing Day (26th December 2022).

The Tottenham comeback demonstrates the team's fight mentality; this is not the first comeback this season; my team lost hope the moment they conceded the first goal. Chelsea making the top four would be a miracle..
Tottenham were determined to win that match, well done to them for the display and mindset to go two goals down and still score three goals to win the game.

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Here is the current table:


2610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: October 31, 2022, 12:17:31 AM
Arsenal dominated in their 5-0 victory over Nottingham Forest, it was well deserved and they sit two points clear at the top of the Premier League table. Manchester United won 1-0 against West Ham United to climb up to 5th place. I will post the current table when I have time.

All in all it was another excellent weekend of premier league football  Grin

Arsenal were really solid against Nottingham today by getting a 5-0 win.

They were very comfortable in this game most of the time. Nottingham found some chances in fact while it was 1-0 but couldn't make use of them. After finding the second goal Arsenal just started to put on a great show. Partey's goal was really classy by the way. Gabriel Jesus is still having problems on scoring. He had some important goal chances in this game also. Especially the one in the 85th minute was an absolute chance but he missed the ball by inches I'm afraid. But I believe in him to recover and start scoring again soon. He was still impressive with 2 assists anyway.
2611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: October 30, 2022, 02:25:13 PM
Here are the results from the games played yesterday Saturday 29th October 2022:

Leicester City 0-1 Manchester City

Bournemouth 2-3 Tottenham Hotspur

Brentford 1-1 Wolverhampton Wanderers

Brighton and Hove Albion 4-1 Chelsea

Crystal Palace 1-0 Southampton

Newcastle United 4-0 Aston Villa

Fulham 0-0 Everton  

Liverpool 1-2 Leeds United


Tottenham came from 2-0 down to win 2-3, fantastic display of team spirit and Manchester City win 0-1 without Haaland as he is injured.

Liverpool put up a fantastic display to beat Manchester City and West Ham United in back to back wins but they have now lost back to games. They are in deep trouble and they will probably be fighting for a top 6-8 position finish at the end of the season.

Potter was humiliated with a 4-1 loss at Brighton after he returned there as manager of new team Chelsea.
2612  Economy / Reputation / Re: Royse777 is Casino Critique on: October 30, 2022, 02:04:28 PM
PS. I was ready to invest 0.04 BTC with Casino Critique. I probably would not have had the confidence in doing so had I known that it was Royse777 raising the money, with him being fresh off the heels of the BitLucy snafu and all, with him saying he needs some time to cool down from it.
How many would have any confidence in investing in anything related to Royse777 when almost zero time was given between the Bitlucy/Royse777 scam ending and Casino Critique starting up? You were right to be cautious.

The excuse provided by Royse777 for the massive cloud of secrecy surrounding the main protagonist behind Casino Critique was that two unnamed members (but heavily hinted at them being yahoo62278 and myself) would not allow the project to be given a fair chance to succeed had it be known Royse777 was behind it or involved in it. It was an excuse.

Well, I hope you agree with me that I was right to reveal the secret. And it was a bit by chance, because for the same reason you say, I had put the Reputation section on ignore, and when a thread was moved here, I unignored the section because I was interested in following it.

Then I saw what had happened with that disgusting being called naim027, AnotherAlt, whatever scumbag and that's what triggered me to reveal the secret and I red tagged Royse777 and CC.
Yes of course you were right to reveal the so-called secret.

Royse777 knew naim027 had alt-accounts that were being to used to push two agendas. First to try to get the naim027 account unbanned and second to push the Royse777/Casino Critique propaganda and whether there is any case to even conclude a 1% chance she was unaware, it cannot detract from the point that the so-called secret was something you were caught unexpectedly to receive without you making any commitment or promise.

Everything was going as planned until Poker Player decided to break the trust that I had for him.
You better not blame others for what you brought on yourself. The little funding you got is not my fault, and as suchmoon says, telling so many people to keep a secret about you, makes it quite likely to be revealed.

What I don't understand is what kind of trust you had in me. We hadn't exchanged a single PM before you offered me the chip, and we had barely interacted in threads either. Too long I kept it a secret for the little relationship we had.
If Royse777 is not going to blame you and several others for everything that she did wrong and everything that went wrong, who else will she blame? Did she whole-heartedly even accept her part in the Bitlucy debacle? Royse777 will not be accept responsibility for her mistakes, she had ample time to do so but opted to the contrary.

Allow me to provide some clarity, the primary reason why you were included in the small list of users that received the PM inviting you to receive freebie tokens and being instructed to keep the secret quiet. In the Royse777/Bitlucy scam and reputation threads, some of your posts could have been interpreted as being opposed to me or my views. In some of your posts you (rightly or wrongly) came across as though you were in favour of giving Royse777 a fresh start and minimising her input in the scam whereas I and several others were against it and wanted Royse777 to be fully held to account for her part in the Royse777/Bitlucy scam.

It was clear you were not trolling me as three low-level nonsense posting trolls were at the time (and they have been doing so intermittently since then) but the impression Royse777 probably got was you were against me and thus you were a staunch defender for her reputation. That is my most probable conclusion.

Actually, now that some time has passed, I think that hiding who was behind Casino Critique was wrong, and there were many of us who knew it.
I agreed to withhold the mysterious, unknown person's identity (while there was a whirlwind of speculation that he was Royse777 and nobody in second place as far as possible contenders) for a number of reasons--but I'd say the main one was my own judgement of Royse777 and his credibility.  I definitely wouldn't have agreed to do that for just anyone.  There was also the structure of the funding, and escrows were in place to keep everyone honest.  In addition, even if Royse777 came up with the project idea and kicked it off, there was still a fairly large team working on Casino Critique, so I didn't see this would be in any way a golden opportunity for Royse777 to scam anyone, even if he were so inclined to do it.

Looking ahead, if a situation like that ever comes up again, I'm going to give it a lot more consideration.
If a situation like that happens again, your consideration could have an impact on others including investors as well as your own reputation. It was a careless act on part of Royse777 dragging others in to her secret by forcing it in front of them in the form of a PM.

The correct format should have allowed you and others to have the right to make a choice about wanting to know a secret with a promise to not divulge it rather than receive a PM stating you have to keep a secret without you even wanting to know about it.
2613  Economy / Reputation / Re: Choice of Username and people's perception on: October 29, 2022, 11:22:58 AM
Well, though you have a point I think it is important to say that when you read a username such as Dic3L0v3r it does make the mind wonder as to the logic applied by the user when he created that alt-account  Grin

Overall, the name of a person would almost become irrelevant and immaterial given that he/she has contributed so much to the forum. There are lots of people here in this forum where their names are somehow weird and alien- like sometimes it is filled with numbers and letters but they become so much irrelevant due to the work they have provided.

A person who judges someone quickly just because their initial impression stemmed from the username is also the same person who would most likely contribute nothing to the forum. Do not worry, OP- this forum is truly forgiving as people will based their perceptions depending on your overall contribution and courtesy in this forum.
2614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: October 29, 2022, 10:42:16 AM
The Arsenal vs Nottingham Forest game will be interesting because Arsenal expect to win but Nottingham Forest defeated Liverpool last week and now will be looking to take at least a point from Arsenal.

Brighton and Hove Albion vs Chelsea will have a lot of excitement because Potter returns to his ex-team with his new team and I think Chelsea could end up losing the game. Elsewhere, Manchester City should have an easy game at Leicester City and West Ham United could manage a draw at Manchester United.

The game between Aston Villa and Newcastle will be challenging; Aston Villa's new coach Emery will be in charge of the team's first EPL match today. If Aston Villa keeps playing like they did against Brentford, Newcastle will struggle to earn a draw. Assuming Aston Villa will win this game handily. All they have to do is enter the game with the same sense of unity, momentum, zeal, and optimistic outlook that they did in the Brentford game.
2615  Other / Meta / Re: Abolish the Merit system and bounty threads on: October 28, 2022, 08:23:55 PM
He makes some good points. Nearly every reply in this thread for instance is drivel written purely for the sake of filling weekly post quotas. Everything of value that was once added to this forum is now buried under an insurmountable pile of shitposts. 95% of the forum is unnavigable and not worth reading. Most people posting in it only read it because they get paid to post here. For everyone else, it makes little sense to waste the time.
It is hard to argue with that view because most of the posts being made in the forum generally are related to hitting quotas in order to earn signature campaign fees or bounties. If the OP had maintained some balance and composure he could probably have articulated those views in a more acceptable manner to the masses he might have managed to get more support behind his views.

Many of the posts in various threads across the forum are pure drivel. The forum has changed over the years I have known it and it is constantly changing but not for the better. I suppose this is something that will continue and no action will be taken in an attempt to halt the decline.



2616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: October 28, 2022, 07:28:39 PM
Here are the games taking place this weekend:

Saturday 29th October 2022
Leicester City vs Manchester City
Bournemouth vs Tottenham Hotspur
Brentford vs Wolverhampton Wanderers
Brighton and Hove Albion vs Chelsea
Crystal Palace vs Southampton
Newcastle United vs Aston Villa
Fulham vs Everton  
Liverpool vs Leeds United


Sunday 30th October 2022
Arsenal vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester United vs West Ham United


Will Manchester City add to problems at Leicester City and can Nottingham Forest cause an upset at Arsenal after they defeated Liverpool last week?

Another set of brilliant games to watch  Grin
2617  Other / Archival / Re: What a wonderful merit overflow on: October 28, 2022, 07:23:14 PM
What a wonderful merit overflow I have just observed. Cheesy

~snip~

Just a wonderful merit overflow, most likely, to his alt. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
This user's password was reset recently.
This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity.


That was an excellent observation. Most probably an account has never had a password reset and woken up after a long period and also sent 34 merit to another user within the space of 1 minute  Grin

In any case, this was not done by chance. We will soon be convinced of this and understand what purpose was pursued. Earlier, he also sent out 10 merits to new accounts for completely trifling posts. But all his accounts are now asleep. I think that the new idea will also fall asleep soon.
I agree, this was not dome either by chance or in error.

Sooner or later any connected accounts will unravel, in the end they always do. By sending merits from one alt-account to another, they hope to build rank but the haste of those behind the sock-puppets is usually a major factor in their downfall.

I am going to distrust you exactly for the reason of your strong urge of leaving feedback. There are no other reason. You are possibly a good fella in the community.

I don't think this is the best way to use your custom Trust list. "You should exclude users who leave inaccurate feedback." [reference] , but I guess that's your prerogative and you can do whatever you want with your trust list as far as I'm concerned. Although I'm not entirely sure what I did to step on your toes, I don't really care.
You did nothing and you did not step on his toes. He is an attention-seeking troll as you probably know from other threads where he and his buddies were defending the indefensible while spouting nonsense about me and other members that challenged them. For what it is worth, him distrusting you is meaningless because the troll himself is untrustworthy.

FatFork, I support your neutral tag, thanks for bringing this to your attention.  In this case, this is a clear abuse of the merit system, and in 2018, red tags were left for such cases immediately, so the neutral tag, written without any insults, it really is the place to be. But arguing with those who have double standards in the use of trust system, in my opinion, is pointless. Cheesy
You are right, it is a clear abuse of the merit system and it most probably should be addressed and noted.

As for those that have double standards in the trust system (such as the troll following FatFork around), you are absolutely correct, it is pointless to either debate, engage with or argue because they are not worth giving any attention to. Speaking of which, I found this feedback that was left for you somewhat laughable because it is ridiculous and should never have been left but when they are driven by revenge the trolls and attention-seekers do weird things:





Noone agrees 100% about anything on this forum I don't think. You're always going to have those whom agree with a decision made, Those who disagree, and those who don't care or stay neutral in a situation. You'll never make anyone happy.
There is no doubt about it, getting 100% consensus on any or most subjects or issue in the forum is probably impossible.

In this case I would stay neutral unless it is proven the 2 accounts involved are alts( it looks obvious but not 100%). Without absolute proof I wouldn't want to take the chance on damaging someones reputation forever as we all know it's hard to get back to positive once accused. I do find it odd that neither account involved have made a post here, so the 1st place I would start would be by sending them both a pm to this thread and getting their response. Then go from there.
That sounds like a reasonable take on the situation and I respect that view.

I would go a little further, after he has been alerted via PM I would be expecting the puppeteer to post in this thread using both accounts justifying the situation using an explanation worthy of me eating popcorn and enjoying the scene akin to watching a movie on the cinema. I could possibly even nominate him for a best actor award as his drama unfolds but that all depends on the quality of post he makes trying convince us beyond reasonable doubt the accounts are not connected  Grin

Why does it matter? How merit helps him to scam? There are no vouches on his profile.
There is no scam right now and now it may not help to scam. But the sender of the merit is a scammer and also sent tremendous merit (34) to a newbie account. It may rank up and use to scam again. For a newbie account, with vouch cant help with scamming without a good rank.
I completely agree with your statement.

At the moment from what I have read in the thread, I would conclude the purpose of the sending the merits is probably to assist in ranking up the account for farming purposes which would then be used for signature campaigns and bounties or for something else including nefarious purposes.
2618  Economy / Reputation / Re: A large bounty hunter farm (67 or more). on: October 28, 2022, 06:33:46 PM
Many thanks for this and well done for your efforts. As soon as I have ample time I will start looking in to the accounts and then will start tagging the appropriate ones.

+67 Accounts Connected
Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue)

~snip~

2619  Economy / Reputation / Re: Nutildah's bounty cheaters & ban evaders thread on: October 28, 2022, 02:56:38 PM
Good to see you back and posting with such detail. When I have time I will get busy tagging various listed accounts.

Once again adding to this thread as I found an account that bugged me. Starting here:

~snip

Long story short, Ami0 is a ban evading bounty cheater.
2620  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: The Rock Trading Scam www.therocktrading.com Exchange Review fraud truffa on: October 28, 2022, 02:46:42 PM
I sent a PM to the CFO asking him if there was anything that could be done to help facilitate or mediate a way out of this where you would have your funds returned to you but he (eliale) did not reply.

I confused as to how much longer the Rock Trading CFO will try to hold on to your funds. I could be wrong but suspect the so-called arbiter he allegedly transferred your money to was a way out of paying you because those funds no longer exist. Maybe the Rock Trading are no longer solvent, who knows?

If the CFO has carried on this vendetta against you for over 4 years because you exposed them, maybe he is not fit to continue in the role and a new CFO should be appointed.

As saxydev seems to have a lot of knowledge about this issue, maybe he would be a better choice unless of-course he is an alt-account of the CFO.
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