I'm fed up reading about free-market bollocks.
Look at the end of the day, a deal is not a deal unless both parties get something worthwhile out of it, and ASICminer's deals are so one sided it's untrue.
Any discount as prices are 'slashed' (lol) are mitigated as all future profits become ASICminers whether they keep them and mine them, or sell them for all the coins they could potentially be mined for.
Aside ASICminer, anyone currently thinking they are getting anything out of these deals sums up a lot of the behaviour and lack of due diligence I have seen on this forum. Close to none.
Still if you get an emotional thrill from being so submissive, who am I to stop you, it's clearly a warped fetish...
A deal is whatever 2 parties agree to deliver. There's no greater ideal of value required. The only time you truly get to decide if a deal is worthwhile is when you are a part of it.That is some heavy dose of mega bullshit. Could you please not take a crap in the pool? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkOVbvIbmLs |
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1) You first place an order on LocalBitcoins for a certain amount, that separates the BTC amount into Escrow.
An automated message with my bank details are then sent to you.
2) Second, if you are going to do a direct cash deposit, simply drive down to any Bank Of America with cash in hand. Let them know the account number you wish to place the deposit into. (You don't need to show ID)
3) Third, the teller credits our account automatically with the amount of the deposit (no fees by the way). Then visit localbitcoins and press the button on your end that indicates you have made the payment.
After a few moments we verify the amount and the Bitcoins are released from Escrow and deposited to your wallet.
If you have a smartphone, the process can be executed pretty quickly (within 15min).
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You know, if the temperature of the pool bothers you, instead of bitching about it, you could just get out of the water...  No thanks, I just tell the pool owner there is something wrong with the pool. Then comment on it when getting into the pool so that innocent bystanders can all agree there is something wrong at this pool. It is "change" in action!  |
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At 10 BTC, they would be worth buying right now. Anything more, a waste.
Possibly, possibly a little less than that. Agreed, if he priced them at 9 BTC he would sell A LOT of them, resellers would do big orders. But I have the gut feeling he will give it a try at 20/25 BTC, maybe he prefers to sell 300 at 25 BTC than 1,000 at 9 BTCI think the numbers you mean are 60,000 at 25BTC instead of 100,000 at 9BTC. You do the math.... No, i dont mean those useless numbers. They didn't sell a thousand blades at 50 BTC, they won't be selling 60,000 at 25 BTC. And the correlation you made between demand at 25 BTC and demand at 9 BTC is ridiculous. 9 BTC is a price ANY miner would pay. 25 BTC is a price that would be paid only by i) someone that doesn't care about ROI, ii) someone clueless or iii) someone looking for the greater fool to which resell the blade. And before spitting nonsense numbers like "60,000 or 100,000" blades sold you do the math about what would that represent in terms of network hash rate and maybe you will realize how far from the reality are those numbers. The point was simply to show that I can also pull numbers out of my ass - numbers that compute differently than the numbers you pull out of yours. Until you have insider information about ASCIMiner's sales numbers and profit margins - and we find out what the new pricing is - anything and everything is just speculation, nothing more. Your made up numbers don't prove anything different than mine do. ASCIMiner/FriedCat is not stupid - he knows what he's doing and works to maximize his own profit - whether or not buyers can make some ROI isn't relevant from his end.   |
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Is there enough spacing between the modules to put gpu ram sinks on each individual chip? I have about 2 kg of them, yes kilograms  Infact just checked how much the bag of them weigh, it was close to 4 kilograms so I should have plenty for 1x3 module avalon once I get it. I was thinking people should replace the thermal compound used in the Avalon unit. Considering there are some people who found out some units have no thermal compound or had it improperly applied. Assuming that the thermal compound is crap and/or low efficiency, then transferring the heat from the chips to the heatsink would probably help some at higher clocks. A good number of thermal pads with 6 or 7watt/mk should help alot if this is the case. (It would be the equivalent to MX4.) The next problem after that is how (in)efficient the heatsink actually is at discharging the heat with the current design. Then finally finding an air temperature that allows the heatsink to work at a reasonable pace. (not too cold because it costs $$$ to keep it at that temp) etc |
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I'm fine with throwing away single BTCs on toys, but once you get into double-digits, it's less of an impulse buy.
I'd purchase a blade at <BTC20, but that's the upper limit.
Don't lose sleep, there will be plenty of takers. Suckers...is probably what you mean. |
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What happens if you replace the original paste with Artic Silver 5 or other similar compounds such as high quality thermal pads?
AS5 is conductive, if it flows back to the chip through those small tunnels, who knows what will happen. MX4 is non-conductive and also cheaper if you want to apply for all 240 chips (a 20g tube is enough) Any positive benefit to applying MX4 on the chips? |
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@ iTrader
Am I allowed to share the source code with evaluators in order to determine if this software has any bad code in it?
I see there is a great level of hesitation on spending the 1 bitcoin to get the source. Any chance you can allow me to share the code with a few select folks so they can look over the code carefully? (Yes, I will buy it)
I own several trading bots so it's not like this is the first.
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@ Ursay
When you are done reading the huge text above, go and read post 8071. It feels like you are ignoring my helpful attempts yet again....
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What happens if you replace the original paste with Artic Silver 5 or other similar compounds such as high quality thermal pads?
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But we all know blades aren't selling for 50 BTC anymore. They don't even sell for 40. I think a reasonable price for a blade today is about 30 BTC. So again, using above math, a reasonable price for an Avalon would be
30 BTC -> 12.5Gh/s
x BTC - > 85Gh/s
x = 204 BTC. Still, twice as much as they are going for currently.
Half as much is the fair price? Sounds like you are telling us that an Avalon at 100BTC is quite the sweet deal vs an ASICMiner Blade. I have read that Avalon will soon catch up and have units for order. (not pre-order) So it makes more sense to buy a stock Avalon than it does an ASICMiner blade. ----------------------- If the ASICMiner blades go on sale again for much less (say 10BTC) it would be in line with the proportions that you mentioned. It sounds like FriedCat has a few arrows pointing in a certain price direction. |
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Greed dictates it will be BTC25...and will be the last time you see those 25 coins with 10gh/s.
Your right, if priced by greed, it will be much higher than it should be. 25 BTC sounds about "greedy" enough. (also sounds unprofitable enough!) Question, Avalons are now being overclocked to 100GH/s. If people are willing to pay 50 BTC for 10Gh/s. Are people willing to buy overclockable Avalons at 10x that? (500BTC?) If not, why? |
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Where are people getting this strange idea that he's cutting the price of blades?
Maybe everyone is (understandably) just assuming this? I have a little insider info I will share though: Friedcat confirmed with me VIA PM that blades will receive a similar price cut to that of the USBs. 25BTC is still WAY overpriced. |
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At 10 BTC, they would be worth buying right now. Anything more, a waste.
Possibly, possibly a little less than that. |
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Sorry. I've got a support ticket open, but haven't heard anything on them in a long while, even after qurerying status last week (I don't suppose there's much staff there on the weekends).
I actually made two transactions -- one was taken care of last week, but queries on the second have gone unanswered. I know y'all are working hard back there in the support dept. I've had that job in the past, and I know it's hard work dealing with upset customers all the time. Y'all do have my sympathy. But after so long I'm getting cranky and trying every avenue I can to find resolution. The 11th was a LONG time ago.
The bitInstant dashboard shows the transaction number as: 9d3f16c8-6837-48c7-9aeb-76959ba5eb9d
I've just pushed your order thru. Please allow up to a few hours for it to hit the blockchain. Sorry for any delays. I am the same as that person, how about (Now on Day 13 or 14) you take the initiative to actually refund my coins? Order: df07ed15-e31f-48be-9d0f-da85a3a59c58I've noticed that you have been ignoring me for the last week.... We are not ignoring you. We are in fact working on your case. Your order shows up as just a quote as though it has not been paid. Obviously if you have paid there will be a record and you will get your funds. However, I need to work with other CS agents to get any traction on your issue as I'm still not sure exactly what the problem is. What else do you need to get this refund finalized? |
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Sorry. I've got a support ticket open, but haven't heard anything on them in a long while, even after qurerying status last week (I don't suppose there's much staff there on the weekends).
I actually made two transactions -- one was taken care of last week, but queries on the second have gone unanswered. I know y'all are working hard back there in the support dept. I've had that job in the past, and I know it's hard work dealing with upset customers all the time. Y'all do have my sympathy. But after so long I'm getting cranky and trying every avenue I can to find resolution. The 11th was a LONG time ago.
The bitInstant dashboard shows the transaction number as: 9d3f16c8-6837-48c7-9aeb-76959ba5eb9d
I've just pushed your order thru. Please allow up to a few hours for it to hit the blockchain. Sorry for any delays. I am the same as that person, how about (Now on Day 13 or 14) you take the initiative to actually refund my coins? Order: df07ed15-e31f-48be-9d0f-da85a3a59c58I've noticed that you have been ignoring me for the last week.... |
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was wondering how long it'd take people to notice ( and more importantly share the constant that we've released on github.) the number you are all aiming for is 450  of course, that's not really possible on just air cooling. What I find bizarre is that Avalon chips are able to hit 450Mhz with liquid cooling on plastic packaging. What then would these chips hit in terms of clock if they were packaged like BFL's? I can't help but wonder... And gen 2....will be....worth watching.... |
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<bump>
Market is currently undergoing a small 10% crash. Now is the time to buy up BTC!
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Exact same thing happened to me today. It's been hours and I still haven't gotten a response from Customer Support other than the first automatic email that they sent.
My details are
06/23/13 13:45 New Order d6562233-f9c9-4b06-9cbc-469d023b56fc
06/23/13 13:45 Coinapult error 9f7f60b6-2049-44da-9515-885e08c49fdd
Transaction ID: f4db4e3a-ecdb-4370-a522-f3b03faa2ac3
Crap. I need coins, but I'm afraid to order. I can't afford to have my money in limbo again :/ You can buy them through me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240778.0 |
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Day 6. Nothing.
Bitinstant you suck ass!
Danny
Sigh, Day 6 maybe 7.... I finally asked for a refund and am ignored by customer service for over 2 days. Day 12 or 13, BitInstant has not gotten back to me after they failed to deliver and have asked for a refund (about a week ago), I believe they are waiting for me to tire out and therefore get to keep my money/BTC. |
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