I'm right there with you.  I've only been toying around when I feel confident about the bets.  I've been so busy lately I've barely had time to keep caught up on the Premier League, and zero time for the Champions or Europa cups.

Just curious; would that be for the whole set?  Is that based on the value of the metals?

Beautiful set of coins, though.  I wish I was around when these were being minted.

Your prediction was closer than mine.  I thought I was going safe picking City and Chelsea, and flopped both.  Last weekend I completely forgot to update my picks, and dropped 13 positions, so now I'll be playing catchup the rest of the season.  It doesn't look like I'll get much help this weekend.

I'm tempted call ML for Cleveland on this one, quite tempted.

I won't touch this, too much emotional involvement.  I want the 9ers to win, but maybe I'm being a cynic for thinking Washington has a great chance...

Both of these are too risky for me.  KC can run up the score on anyone.  They had a tough time last week, but that was against a division rival, a team very familiar with their schemes.  And, Miami has been too unpredictable.  

Tennessee has been averaging +4 per game, and while the Jaguars have been averaging -12.5 I still find this too risky for relatively low gain.

Here's my chickenshit, low-risk parley for the weekend, but I haven't submitted the bet yet.  I might add some more handicaps to boost the odds, but I'll wait until tomorrow morning's injury reports.

KC (ML) over Miami
Green Bay (ML) over Detroit
New Orleans (-6.5) over Philadelphia


I've never been a fan of Cam Newton either, but I must admit I've been rooting for him lately.  Maybe it's because he's in a uniform I've become accustomed to rooting for, or because he's actually showing some humility on Belichick's team. 

Lol, easy come, easy go.  I hope you two at least had some fun.

What tier to have to get to to get a free bet?

It does take a bit of trust to be among the first to install a new release, but you can also verify for yourself that the download is safe.

First and foremost, you should learn how to verify the download using ThomasV's PGP signature.  This will ensure that you've downloaded the official version signed by the developer.  Even if Electrum's website gets hacked, and the download link is directed to a malicious version, this will mitigate your risks.  Here's a tutorial I wrote: [GUIDE] How to Safely Download and Verify Electrum [Guide].

If you still don't trust the binary releases, you can always take some time to verify the code hasn't been manipulated with nefarious intent.  If you go the Electrum repository, you can browse through the changes made in real time.  You can confirm for yourself that only the changes published in the release notes are implemented into the code.

And if you're still doubtful about the binary releases, you can even run electrum right from the source code.  It's fairly easy if you're running Linux and have all the python dependencies installed (which you probably do if it's a recently released OS.)

Electrum's github.com repository: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum
Electrum's Release Notes (change-logs): https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES
Electrum's previous releases: https://download.electrum.org/

If you condense a three-hour broadcast to eliminate the commercials it's about 1:15 minutes.  If you further eliminate all footage between downs, and condense to two seconds before the snap to two seconds after the whistle (coach's film,) you'll end up with about 40 minutes worth of football.



BWAHAHAHAH!  Ok, I won't mention any kitties.  >sadly remembering I cried myself to sleep last night.

I don't know why you would be embarrassed, but somebody should be.  5 and 7, yet still in first place in the division?  Yeah, they have improved a lot, and I must admit the game against Seattle was not one I counted for them.  But, the Giants have a long history of screwing with the NFC west, it goes way back.


For someone who claims to not be much of a football fan...  I guess that's what being a wizard with data will do to you.

One of the best defenses in the league, and the return of the Game Manager. 

Alex Smith is 3-0 since returning.  I always had a lot admiration for Alex Smith.  He's obviously an incredible athlete, but unfortunately his career was doomed when Mike Nolan drafted him.  I hope he gets the chance to play in a championship game some day.  Mike Nolan on the other hand, I'll never forgive him for the dysfunctional cluster fuck he made of the 9ers.

Speaking of which, crazy start to this one with the Bills.

That one really bugged me.  I put a small wager on the Jets in the early 4th, and was counting my winnings with less than two minutes left.  All they needed was one first down, just ONE FIRST DOWN!  Ugh!

The Chiefs game really surprised me, I really didn't expect the Denver defense to make Patrick Mahomes' life so difficult.  

I like Washington in this game, I'm actually surprised to find the odds so high against them.  Their defense is stout, and now they finally have a real quarterback.  And like you said, the Steelers looked off last week.  I believe the Steelers have been skating by on an easy schedule.  This year's NFC adversaries are the East, and the south for the AFC.  Not the toughest divisions.  The only team with a winning record they've beaten by more than 7 points was Cleveland in week 6.

A-4, please.  Thank you.

I agree that going form a trust score of +81 to +87 doesn't seem like a huge difference, and it's unlikely sway the decision of someone looking to do business with OGN, but your statement begs the question:  At what point does it matter?  If adding +6 to your trust score through manipulation of the trust system doubles your trust score, would it matter then?  What if it added 50%, or just 10%?

I noticed that and opposed the flag, a type 2 no less.

What's the punishment for creating a flag that has no merit?  Oh, there isn't one?  Hmmm, maybe it's about time to hold flag abusers accountable.

Hey now...  I might be slow, but not THAT slow!  I figured it out in less than 20 seconds, and took a few minutes to compile that post...  <j/k I know what you meant>


I almost excluded you when I learned you used Theymos' bitcoin to earn yourself a hefty load of airdrops...  that you didn't share with theymos.  Not only did you not share, you didn't even tell theymos you used his money to earn some for yourself.  I still haven't made up my mind whether your club is a Ponzi or not, so I'm not taking that into account.  This particular use of the trust system, however does demonstrate that you can be prone to shady behavior.  I came to those conclusions on my own, spontaneously, without encouragement from anyone.    

When I have an issue with the way people behave around here, I call them out on it, using their name.  Cowardly calling me a lemming isn't the right way to change my mind, if anything it only adds to the evidence that I made the right decision.  

And, if you would like to challenge my ability to think for myself, lets get it on.  Don't worry, you wouldn't be the first one to fail.

I haven't charged interest since April.  All I've asked of asu since then is to maintain communication, and make payments.  He offered to pay off the loan in full by August, I only asked him to honor his word.  I know what this past year has done to many folks, and I don't want to put any one in a difficult position.  I just want my money back.

Check the date on the OP; December 23, 2016, four years ago.  According to CMC bitcoin closed at $921.98 on that date.  wetsuit was scammed for the equivalent of $480.  Bitcoin is worth 20 times more now than it was on that date.

It doesn't really matter if the (Worldwide) account was compromised or sold, it seems obvious he's trying to scam.  Check his threads, many have sockpuppet reviews that smell like total bull shit.

@wetsuit, you should create a type 3 flag against (Worldwide)

Can't argue with that.  I will say it's better than being the whole ass.



No, it's not.  My trust score isn't affected in any way.  I've never received any reviews from OGNasty, nor have I ever given one.  However, I have seen enough to know I do not value his judgement, and only partially because of this incident.  

Trust score fortification (Self-Scratching) by DT1 member: