FIFY, but that's not exactly what I'm debating here.  That debate has only one outcome; a troll-fest of "flatearther" proportions.

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This more inline with the debate I was fishing for:  I'm not proposing overthrowing anyone, and I'm not advocating for war, quite the opposite.  I'm wondering why these three-year-old atrocities are being dusted off and pranced around. 

I don't want to be presumptive, but I'm almost sure what mocacinno meant is that you should not use Electrum with the same wallet again.  You can still use both, but his warning is valid if you plan to keep using the same wallet in both clients.

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I don't want to go on a tangent, and I think the answers given are the best method for the OP, but this brings up another question that isn't at all off topic; in this post HCP discusses using a tool designed to convert a mnemonic seed to a WIF private key which can be used as an HD seed by core.

Here's a link to the tool: https://github.com/tekbe/wallet-tools

I haven't used this method myself, and I'm not promoting the tool, but I'm curious if it can be used to obtain the WIF HD seed that correlates to the Master Private Key generated by an Electrum mnemonic seed.

A rainy day experiment, perhaps.

File in the "Life is stranger than fiction" directory.  

Recently the BBC's Panorama documentary series broadcast the story of Latifa bint Mohammed Al Maktoum.  She's the daughter of Shaik Mohammed Al Maktoum, the ruling monarch of Dubai, an emirate of the UAE.  The documentary is about Latifa's attempted escape from Dubai, where she felt constrained by her father, family, and traditional treatment of women in the UAE.  Latifa attempted to escape in 2018, but the attempt failed when she was captured by Indian Special Forces on a yacht in the in Indian Ocean.  Her pleas to the Indian authorities for asylum were ignored.

Here's a link to the BBC's documentary:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000sspm/panorama-the-missing-princess

Today, the Daily Mail issued a report that asserts there was a deal made between the Dubai monarchy and the Indian authorities.  Previous to the capture of Latifa, India had apparently requested the extradition of British arms dealer Christian Michel, who had been living in Dubai. Dubai had declined these request previously.  However, two weeks after Latifa's disappearance (capture) in the Indian Ocean, Christian Michel was secretly extradited to India.

Daily Mail article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9303341/Dubais-Princess-Latifa-returned-swap-British-arms-dealer.html

Up until now there has been surprisingly little coverage of this story despite it's salacious nature and barbarity; Latifa has been imprisoned by her father for three years, and now it's not known if she's alive.  World leaders seem to be looking the other way when topics of this sort were exposed, and the main-stream media hasn't been pressing on the issue either.  

In another surprisingly late move the Saudi Prince and presumptive heir to the Saudi throne, has now been implicated by U.S. intelligence in the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.  Why now?  Anyone who was paying attention knew the prince had to be involved, no one would have imagined such a thing happening without his knowledge.

The leaders of Saudi, the UAE, and others, have been doing these kinds of things for decades.  They are thugs, racketeers, and murders, but now it looks like the world is finally waking up.  What's changed?  Why are these stories being brought to light now, even though they are both three years old?

Lol, it does look like an amateurish design.  Definitely not the prettiest coin I've seen, but if you want to make any coin ugly just put "BitPay" on it.  I would just as soon not support BitPay since they've done everything they can to dissuade my loyalty.

There seems to be more chaos in the last few months, as one might expect during a bull-run.  Moderators will mod, all we can do is lend a hand when we see them overwhelmed.  Report any post or thread that you think is off topic, or trolling without adding any value to the discussion.

Yes, Electrum will import all bitcoin transactions affiliated with the address from your Ledger, but that's all.  None of the altcoin transactions you may or may not have done on Ledger Live will be visible in Electrum.

If you had a "hidden" (Bip39 passphrase) account on your ledger, you'll have to enter the passphrase as an extension.  When entering the seed, click on the "Options" button and select the "Bip39," and if you have a passphrase, select "Extension."

Wait, you are Roger Ver's grandpa?  Really?  You're one generation removed from being responsible for that idiot calling himself bitcoin jesus?  You must know he is a well known bitcoin-trash scammer, right?

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Obviously something is lost in translation.  I don't think he is using the word "hero" in relation to the forum rank of the same name.  But maybe, whatever.

Maybe he's looking for people with 1000 bitcoins, and he'll ask for their private keys to admit them into his association.

A logo?  Lol, is a logo your guarantee that you'll pay back?

Give it up, dude.  You're not scamming anyone with this BS.  

First off, I'm sorry for your loss.  
Second, you should never deal outside the forum.  Telegram in particular is a haven for scammers.
Third, always use a trusted escrow for these types of trades.  I little extra expense is worth the security.

Please use the scam report template, and provide evidence.


No one is going to do anything about the member you accuse without legitimate evidence.  

No collateral?  How about some more info on this highly promising company into which you'd like us to invest $500k?  Like a website, maybe?  Come on, man!  Are you such a lazy scammer that you didn't have time to create an impressive website?

He applied it the way he saw it working the best.  That may have been selfish of him, but it's no different than what any of us do.  Techshare made no secrets about his views, they're all out in the open.  He may have used it in a way that many of us disagreed with (obviously,) but the only thing he did that was even remotely abusive was retaliatory exclusions.  Seems rather low and the "Trust System Abuse" scale, don't you think?  And, are we really so petty that we're going to nitpick "abuse" by someone who isn't even here anymore?  Isn't the point moot now?


That's uncalled for.  If you have something critical to say in this thread, at least have the courtesy and respect to articulate it without hurling vulgarities.

Yes, Trezor generates a Bip39 seed phrase.  Any wallet compatible with Bip39 seeds can restore the wallet.  If you're using Electrum there's an "Options" button where you enter your seed, that will give the ability to select Bip39, and an extension.  If you've turned on the Bip39 passphrase option on your Trezor, you'll need to enter the passphrase in the extension field.

I joined the Discord channel ages ago, but I guess I should post this here:

DireWolf#7433
445953587701612545

Address staked here.

Oh, um, yeah, about that; 14 does not equal 21, or 343.  So you must be mistaken. 

As hard as it may be to picture me thinking, I have once or twice.  The unofficial (official) reason given is a bit sparse, I must admit:


But it actually makes perfect sense.  Bias is real, and humans are prone to it.  Mistakes are also possible, regardless of bias or any other ill intent.  Would a welcome message help?  Possibly, it couldn't hurt.  I may not be as optimistic about it's effectiveness as you are, however.

Another possible reason for the admins' neutral position could have something to do with this:


Which, in light of where we're having this discourse, also makes sense.

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Despite the absence of a welcome message, or lack of moderation, the forum is not to blame for scams.  No one is to blame for scams other than the scammer, but the other thing that's needed for a scam to work is a victim.  That's the unfortunate reality.  Some of us are just stubborn, and need to learn things the hard way.  Scammers are nearly impossible to prevent, and victims only slightly less difficult.

Just a day or so ago someone claimed to be scammed by a tagged and flagged AWS account scammer.  That means they clicked on the scammers thread, ignored the big red banner across the top of the page, ignored the little red negative numbers next to the scammers name, and contacted said scammer anyway.  Even if there was a welcome message explaining how all this stuff works, it'll only work if it's not ignored.

Emphasis mine.

I hope you don't really believe that.  The trust system and the flag system are efforts meant to mitigate scam opportunities.  The community does a good job finding some before they can victimize people, and attempts to reduce opportunities for those that do.

Sure, there are many "reviews" in the trust system that have nothing to do with trading, but that's not the only measure of someone's trustworthiness.


A welcome message would be helpful, if enough newbies actually take the time to read it.

I intended this thread as a spammegathread an ongoing discussion of the game football, not necessarily tied to the NFL or it's seasons.  If someone wants to start a new thread specific to the new NFL season that would be great, but I don't see a need to close this thread.

I'm not sure that would help.  I don't think AdkinsBet will end with AdkinsBet.  In this post Nutildah shows evidence that AdkinsBet and Malubit are very likely run by the same scammer.

There's also this account that seems to be the same person; Mark_Pitibet, who posted the Ann thread to pitbet.io.  Although it appears that the website never worked, lol.

I suspect this scammer is bouncing from one URL to another.  Obviously he has multiple accounts, why not multiple URLs?

That was quite surprising to see PSG take Barcelona apart in that way, never would have expected that outcome.  Even with 3 point aggregate deficit I don't think you can count Barcelona out.  I can't say the same for Lazio.  Also surprised to see Chelsea take the points in Atletico's home game.  This when things start getting good.   

I reached out to the op to ask how he came by the information, without disclosing details.  He responded saying he and Techshare were in touch on a Skype group with just a few members.  They were able to connect with someone on Steam that new him personally.  The story seems very plausible.  MudDev sent me a link to the Steam chat where Techshare had interreacted with the person that new him, but I have not had a chance to go through it.  I'm at work right now, so I'll give it some time this evening.

Based on MudDev's PM and eddie13's experience I now fear that this report is very likely to be true.

My condolences to Tecshare's family, may he rest in peace.

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ETA: I've always liked Tecshare, he was one of my favorite people on the forum.  It may not always seem that way when you look at our public discourse, but he was genuinely a good guy with a big heart.  He cared tremendously about this forum.  I've missed seeing him around these last few months, and I'm saddened to learn he won't be returning.

Godspeed, Techshare!