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2641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Champions League Pool ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: February 17, 2023, 03:35:21 PM
Let's ban KTChampions for rest of the matches of this round. I can bet he will still stay in number one. He is too good for others. When I get an exact score I check what he got and find he got it too. Fuck you KTChampions 😘
I agree with it! Tembolee that this scoundrel is in the lead not only in the pool of the Champions League.  Grin

Yes. I will put together a DAO proposal to vote KTChampions out for the second leg. And also, we will investigate if he has made financial dealings in his personal account without disclosing it to us, and dock him 50 points. He will probably still end up winning anyway.

Is anyone else annoyed the legs are so far apart? I'm looking forward to meeting Real, but then we have to wait for March to see them again. I don't really remember having to wait that long.
2642  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io - UFC Fight Night 219 - Multi Master Challenge - (Saturday) on: February 17, 2023, 02:34:08 PM
11. Jessica Andrade
10. Zac Pauga
9. Jamal Pogues
8. Marcin Prachnio
7. Alex Hernandez
6. Mayra Bueno Silva
5. Khusein Askhabov
4. Philipe Lins
3. Nazim Sadykhov
2. A.J. Fletcher
1. Clayton Carpenter

NOT go the Full Distance 8
2643  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ Arsenal + Southampton + SPFC ⚽ (Saturday + Tuesday) on: February 17, 2023, 02:26:06 PM
Game 1:  40, 30'
Game 2:  40, 70'
Game 3:  40, 43'
2644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin’s Future Depends on Six Mysterious Coders" WSJ, CSW and Andrew Chow on: February 17, 2023, 02:18:06 PM
I don't disagree these guys have power to change Bitcoin's code, but it's more accurate to say they can hold sway over any proposed changes in it. If it were true that a handful of people can bend/break Bitcoin to their will, then Bitcoin would have failed. You can put it to the test, too. Get one of them to write something arbitrary into the code, and people will notice, question, likely protest. And their reputations gone, also as the article does point out.

Read and you understand that these maintainers are chosen by (technically equivalent) peers and to quote: “act as a final check to ensure that patches are safe and in line with the project goals.”

That's the power they have, really.

The article's here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-core-maintainers-crypto-7b93804

P.S. I didn't realise Chow'd been "promoted" What's so mysterious about those developers? He's got an account here and he's never struck me as a guy shrouded in mystery.
2645  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Wyoming passes bill prohibing Bitcoin private keys from Courts on: February 17, 2023, 01:50:03 PM
On the surface, I do like that you can't be forced to hand over your private information... but I should think standing legal obligations should also be upheld (like if a person divorces and legally must hand over the divorced spouse's share of property... or tax obligations. I disagree with a lot of things but still believe in obeying the law of the country I live in. You know, "your house, your rules".

What happens when people are legally owed money by claimants and then this prevents claims?

e.g. What if Mt Gox v2 happens and some random CEO decides f it, I'm keeping my private keys. Not their keys not their coins.
2646  Other / Meta / Re: [List]Gambling Board Spammers; Concerns, Solutions & Suggestions on: February 17, 2023, 12:03:48 PM
@bullrunbro2020

Now I don't have much time these days, I still report posts from time to time, but usually only when I come across them. But with the restart of UEFA contests, I also saw myself getting pinged in my moderated threads, one user specifically mentioning what you said: the active threads are filled with spam. So I went to the bigger, more active Champions League page and the user was right, full of spam.

I reported posts from 3 users. 1 of which I decided to open up post history, and found that yup, they were posting spam across gambling. I reported all their posts for the day.

The result? My first reported post was marked Bad. That was only my 3rd "bad" report of my forum lifetime! But 4/5 of the others from the same users were deleted, one remained unhandled. The other 2 users were left unhandled.

I reported another 8 posts from 8 different users in 1 thread (La Liga) and only 1 was deleted/good, the rest unhandled.

I understand that moderators have strict thresholds so for sure, many of those posts don't deserve to be deleted but if you look at the majority of them, they're only recycling information that's easily Googled, or just rehashing earlier posts. To me, and to most of us, looking for helpful insight, betting tips or betting information, they really are just low-value comments that might as well be spam, since they don't even carry the thread of discussion, never respond to you if you reply to them, or DM them. That for me is enough to say they're not there to converse, they're there to post mindlessly.

I definitely saw initial activity on my newer self-moderated threads (those themselves were reactions to others who said it was getting hard to navigate with the post spam) but as AverageGlabella points out, these users don't reply to your conversations. To provide further evidence, I even tried PM'ing these guys after deleting their posts. Very, very few of them even responded back. Clearly, they didn't care or aren't even reading PMs, they're just wall-quoting and rehashing a comment.

It's definitely a dilemma. We now have 2/3 threads on the same topics. The ones with the most activity are not self-moderated, and has the lowest quality. I still participate from time to time and try to report posts. Generally, I still have a high accuracy count, but no longer have time to really help clean up. The ones with the highest quality are... well, the same people talking to each other. As Igebotz says, that's okay, and that's okay too, for me, since it serves the purposes of those needing those threads.

But yeah, for now, I'm ready to give up those self-moderated threads while there are also parallel topics involving paying users of paid pools. But does that work to exclude people who don't pay for those pools who still are genuine gamblers?

I feel like some responsibility also goes to those campaign managers of these users.
2647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How was Bitcoin mining done in the early days? on: February 16, 2023, 08:22:41 PM
You can try mining on the testnet to get an idea of how it was done back in the day... at least that was what I thought I did some years back. Also tried mining on some altcoins that were just clones of Bitcoin, just to get "the feel" of finding a block!

I like to think Laszlo must have mined all his tens of thousands on Bitcoin on his PC in the background, while wondering what to order for his kids' dinner.
2648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stages on: February 16, 2023, 05:46:22 PM
Looking ahead to tomorrow's matches, i think there are two standout outrights to be had, AEK Larnaca and Braga qualifying for the next round. AEK and Dnipro met last summer, and AEK won both games to make the Europa League group stages. Dnipro has not played a competitive match since November and are forced to play their home fixtures at a neutral site. As for Braga and Fiorentina, the Portuguese are having a solid season and are only two points behind second-place Porto, whereas Fiorentina is in such poor form heading into this match. La Viola has the easiest Coppa Italia semi-finals matchup with Cremonese one could ask for, so that should be their focus rest of the season...i really don't expect them to do much against Braga. I will most likely end up with both AEK and Braga DC parlay on top of the outrights that i will also have.

Qarabag and Gent is one other match that caught my attention, Gent conceded 3 goals in each of their last three games in Belgium, Qarabag tends to play offensive footbal, so yeah, by simply putting two and two together...there could be goals here, btts and O2.5 quite tempting!

For those who want to get a little more creative with their bets, at this stage of the tournament last year, there were first-half goals scored in 7 of the 8 matches played, and 7 of the 8 away teams conceded a goal.

Thanks for the insight, I couldn't possibly have remembered these ties from last year, something tells me Dnipro is the hidden dark horse, although I usually never bet on teams that don't have match fitness.

I actually did well on some betting last night, so if I'm bored at HT, and depending on early Europa game outcomes, I might check back here for live betting and pick favs who are down a goal, since you brought up the HT goal tallies! I do recall before the break that there were plenty of goals in this league. That's always great value and I still have a boost to use up. If Cluj is somehow ahead also at HT, then I know where my hedge goes!
2649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 5000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: February 16, 2023, 04:33:21 PM
Nice to know my prize money is ready and waiting in escrow. Thanks SB/Cro2 Wink

Obviously, I chose to do very badly at the beginning but you know, it's a marathon and all that, to quote Arteta. Heh.

BVB shoulda had a second, but to be fair, they needed a wonder goal to break through Chelski, so it's cool. Benfica almost lived up to their billing (they had the lowest odds on over 3 goals market so people were expecting big goals) but I'm hoping Napoli want a repeat of Ajax whipping... Seems to me there is a greater disparity in points between players than at the WC. Of course, only because we're barely halfway through Wink
2650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stages on: February 16, 2023, 03:22:15 PM
Tonight, many people will be watching the match Barcelona - Manchester United, but I'm a little surprised how the bookmakers distributed odds of 1.74 for Barcelona to win, against 4.9 for Manchester United.

At first it confused me a little, but then I remembered the recent match between Barcelona and Real Madrid, where Barcelona were also favorites, and in that match they won confidently.

One thing I know for sure, it will be very difficult for the team of Eric ten Hag at the Camp Nou, the last time Barcelona lost to Bayern in October 2022, since then Xavi's wards have not known defeat. Manchester United are a good team, but I doubt they can beat Barcelona away, a draw in this match would be considered an acceptable result for them.

Yep. As Slaman mentioned above, I'm also not too happy with the odds. I feel it should have been almost equal at least. Then again, Barca is probably one of the most in-form top teams in Europe now along with Napoli. Ajax? Bayern? Real? City? Arsenal? PSG? They're all struggling to maintain the kind of performance you expect from them.

United have been collecting points and goals steadily though. Probably most improved seed in 2023.

de Jong's the guy to look out for. Wanted to stay, club didn't really want him, United wants him. Point to prove? Hell yeah.
2651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: February 16, 2023, 02:14:14 PM
^ So right, individual errors gave City the win and you just can't do that. The first goal I actually missed, but the second one? Trying some fancy backpass with City players hovering around you on the edge of your box? That's irresponsible.

Also, something I kept asking myself: shouldn't Ederson have been sent off? He was on a yellow, and it was a foul for the penalty... surprised I didn't hear commentary about it. Seemed to me like the ref didn't want to kill the game but I thought, it had to be given.

I put City on two of my tickets, suspecting that Arsenal would not deal with the Brentford VAR incident well and I feel like I was right. Arteta antics on the touchline... reminds me their discipline problem (and mentality) hasn't quite been put to bed yet. They need a reset of mindframe, no better time than next game at Villa.
2652  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Ballet wallets on: February 16, 2023, 12:51:08 PM
Yeah I bought this one a couple of years ago (auction here).

I definitely don't think these types of collectibles are fully safe/secure, as pointed out above, you're only trusting the manufacturer who hopefully is completely removed from the maker, but even so. Almost every collectible I've ever bought has been given away, hopefully to spread the virus Wink

This one I kept though, but might give it away some day. I bought it partly because of the culture of where I come from. It has some significance in the serial # (I know how important it is to people) and I'm pretty sure at some point down the line, I would be able to recoup the BTC once Bitcoin (and these kinds of wallets) become more prominent.

And the Lees, anyway, I feel are decent people...
2653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2022 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: February 15, 2023, 10:08:07 PM
Hello! Yeah, F1 about to start again, had no idea. Count me in as usual. As jeremypwr points out, even signing up gets you half the fee back. Then you need one yellow cap (all I managed haha) to make it a positive return in value.

Come man, stop lying , you know we are gonna use that freebet on a multi bet with really high odds and ending without profit  Grin . Or mega profit.....

I remember one guy who doesnt come and play i dont remember his name very good, something like Tro** o no wait its so obvious maybe ***fo.

My most recent freebet was on a "small" 44/10 or something value, and it immediately got killed on the first leg last night. So yeah, who are we kidding. Mega profit, or nothing, right?

There's another guy I know, name starts with "T" and ends with "rofo", he might actually do well if he competes in a pool he isn't managing.

Don't be like me. Join pools and competitions and forget to do stuff (cough cough FPL).
2654  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for February on: February 15, 2023, 06:46:25 PM
I mean a point when there are less sellers than buyers...  Meaning sell downs happen less and buy ups happen more.  I think we're starting to get to that point or at least when it goes to the 16k - 18k range maybd it does go to that point.  If so then BTC could be range bound from 16k to around 23k - 24k range...  Like sellers  only start to come out at 23k - 24k.  Dunno but seems like we aleeady hit bottom.  I've been thinking about it more lately as I've been here for a long time and I never really bought 'the bottom'.  I usually just buy the momentum and go with it.  Lol.  Leaves some money at the table.

Which, if you're right, means they're just about to pop up then with today's surge looking to retake lost ground above 23k.

Buying bottoms? Not really my thing, as it means setting aside cash for that...

I actually never sold any tops, but have been able to benefit slightly from bottoms thanks to DCA, I'm usually less concerned about that as Bitcoin spends a lot of time near the floor... my hope is I actually call the next top as I'm not getting any younger!
2655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: February 15, 2023, 05:24:06 PM
However, the best football is still played in Europe, both national team and club football, and Europe still invests the most in football.

I might agree the best football is with club football, but I actually can't say I watch a lot of non-European football these days. But a lot of that is because of non-European players playing in those leagues.

But national teams? Surely the World Cups prove that the home of the best football is arguable. I think I've seen plenty of the past 2 or 3, and even when stretching back my memory to 1998 and 2002, some of the worst football is played by European teams, the very best from South America, while we get exciting moments from Asia and Africa.

Of course, what is "best" is subjective. I personally like physicality and positive play. I watched some of the worst top football in recent memory seeing England, Germany, Belgium, even Spain minus their first game... but I loved how Japan served powerful dogged battles in every game. Hell, even Morocco was adrenaline-inducing most of their games. I believe it's more common than that small sample.
2656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: EFL English Championship League 2022/2023 on: February 15, 2023, 04:15:33 PM
Yeah, one acca dead in the water because of Burnley. I still feel it was the right bet to make on their form (and on Watford's) -- as you point out, they had more chances, and 9/10 times they win this one, and Watford don't score their only shot on target.

Nothing else on my radar today, too late to add Blades ML on another ticket, as I've kind of got my laces all tied up already!

P.S. Warnock's back haha, and Huddersfield will hope their Messiah brings them assurance of safety. I think he just might too.
2657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Champions League Pool ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: February 15, 2023, 03:07:53 PM
Curses on KTChampions. I should lock my picks from Round of 16 and copy his for betting...

While for Paris is way over and if we don't bet on Bayern to qualify a lot of money despite the low odd but I don't believe it will be that low then we are deeply stupid  Grin.The game was dominated by Bayern Munchen and they could have even scored more goals but it was all thanks to the Paris goalkeeper that the score stayed at just 0-1 for Bayern,still good enough to make them much closer than Paris to further qualification.

I would almost say the same with certainty but Mbappe apparently made a huge difference on his cameo and if he's back for the return leg, Bayern are going to find it difficult (will Mane be back by then though?).

Milan are going through a very terrible patch, but Tottenham look even worse and Milan were impressive today, forgive me but it's the end of the road for Conte's men imo, and quite off track but what the fuck does Harry Kane actually offer as a striker ?? He does make forward runs when the winger and midfielders are looking for open runs, he spends most of his time tracking back and playing much more like a #10, I think Conte really needs to start playing Richarlison much more or create a room for him and Kane together on the pitch, because if Kane is to remain their biggest goal threat, and he still plays like this, I'd be surprise they still manage to score 15 goals in all competition for the rest of the season.

Yeah I went for Spurs in my quiz picks... I'm a big, big fan of some of the Spurs players, none more so than Son and it hurts me even as a neutral to see him struggle and I keep wondering if it's because of Kane, despite their obvious winning partnership. I don't think he sucks, I just think the team can't move on if it's always about him. This Milan team was there for the taking, and they couldn't.

Devil's advocate in me wants the Kane to United rumour to prove true, so Spurs can really move around their pieces more dynamically.

It's a weird season isn't it? Last season's stars all muddling about in obscurity (Salah, Son the most obvious as joint Golden Boot holders)...
2658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: February 15, 2023, 01:55:40 PM
Arsenal City trap today? BTTS seems best value, and if you're a believer in either, then the value of ML is unrivalled, especially for City. Heart wants the Gunners to win, head says they might already be headed for a crumble (VAR stealing their points will be a test of their character).

congrats on win

I would add that match was much better than expected
expected a nervous fight, and it was much more than that, Liverpool was indeed better team, although if header before the first Liverpool goal hit the target we would maybe have a bit more to fight for, but Liverpool was better than in previous matches certainly and obviously have much better team at the moment

Everton was playing without any attacker, so one shot on target is above expected Wink

Thanks! Yeah I actually cheered for the goal and it's been a while (even when we did score before I was just too pessimistic to celebrate). What I noticed is our odds for Real and Newcastle (our next games) haven't shifted so bookies are clearly not convinced...

Everton need DCL back asap.

Would have been a very different game if that corner went in. Instead of 0-1 it was instantly 1-0 and the whole dynamic changed.
You could immediately see how more relaxed we were, we weren't in the lead that often in recent months.

We needed this win and overall we played a good game, yes. It has to be said that Everton is horrible though.

I'm hoping we get the same lead in our next two games, and then the Reds machine can get rolling again. Jota, Bobby, VVD slowly coming back from injury... you know what else I think was important? Starting Hendo. I know he hasn't been great but he's still a better influencer these days.

Bajcetic though. Hands up here I wasn't convinced in his first big appearance (cup) but he's been a much-needed "old Liverpool style" player we're putting on the pitch. So good to see.
2659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io Betting discussion thread rev on: February 15, 2023, 12:12:38 PM
Champions League takes stage but I'm probably going to find time to watch the bigger match: Arsenal host Citeh at home. Huge load of specials on offer: https://sportsbet.io/sports/sportsbet-specials/daily-specials/english-premier-league/matches

I put a bit of money on the Saka one (9/1) but I think the best value is the first special (BTTS, 1 card each, 1 corner each per half) at 3.65. Wish this wasn't on a Wednesday though...
2660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stage on: February 15, 2023, 09:43:15 AM
CL is already at the KO stages.  buwaytress change the title and let's get more people in here.  One CL thread nobody likes to talk to me and the other one has a ton of people saying the same things over and over.  Nobody likes to talk to me there too.  I just need a little betting advice from everybody but nobody likes to share their leans, picks and analysis.  Cheesy 

Anyway, Club Bruges vs Benfica and BVB vs Chelsea.  No idea how these other clubs are doing other than Chelsea.  But I know enough to know that Benfica is better than Bruges and BVB is a decent club in the Bundesliga.  At first glance I like Benfica to win with under 4.5 goals combo at 2.02 and BVB double chance to win or draw and BTTS combo at 2.29.  What do you guys think?

Title changed. Real life so busy I was sure I posted something in here to revive the thread but seems I was mistaken. Funny how your memory works in old(er) age heh.

There were complaints before about this thread being moderated but there you go, create a non-moderated one and it's a spam festival. Try to report them, especially the blatantly obvious ones.

Benfica the obvious choice, Bruges had a really good group stage but I doubt that is sustainable. BVB seems to be the natural choice too (it's my pick) but Chelski could perform in Europe, they certainly have the personnel.

In BSFL, I can see a number of people are tipping Benfica to win by the biggest scoreline.

At 2/1 your picks look good, problem is I don't trust Chelsea to score, but Benfica win and under 4.5 seems pretty safe!

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