I rarely comment on this issue, and I appreciate that yahoo makes the consideration for people for whom $50 a week is simply much more money than they could make working really hard. I come from such a country (well, not national wage but the specific place I come from anyway, I know until this day people earning less than $50 a month), so I know I can speak with some voice, even if I no longer am in that situation, and haven't been since the 1990s.

That all said, the sole purpose of getting an account to earn is not wrong, even commendable. I'd do it in that situation. Buying and trading accounts, on their own, I don't disagree with. But I would push for an additional setting that declares change of ownership. Maybe I would like my kid to own and continue this account in good faith, perhaps to continue some long-running thread, if he is willing. But if that happens, I'd like that to be known.

We must also consider that some campaign requirements include some degree of age, merit or trust.  To buy an account to meet requirements you otherwise wouldn't, is some form of deception.

A newbie has some obstacles, true:

a. Not everyone speaks good English so they must find campaigns that pay for local boards.
b. It can be difficult to earn merit at first, particularly when they have no new contribution, or lack the language for it.

Perhaps campaigns must also look beyond the (sometimes meaningless) trust, legendary status, etc. And also consider (new) members who are earnest about contributing to the campaign and forum. I am fully for a "case by case" policy.

That said, I try to report posts and it's pretty clear that the majority of posters looking to earn aren't even really interested in contributing to the forum. A person earnestly interested to earn, is also interested to earn more, and knows they can do this by improving their reputation, quality, and status.

But these accounts clearly are only interested in farming, likely because they are owned by the same groups of people -- I worked in content moderation back in 2016/17 and it is there, with basic blockchain analysis, that you see just how rotten these networks are. A few farmers spamming boards with hundreds of accounts in altcoin boards.

I've also reported names of accounts that pop up in Bitcoin and Gambling -- I understand some Indonesian/Malay, and you can immediately see the connections in the style of names, the things they say, the campaigns they sign up in, the topics they trawl. I don't have the desire to dig but I suspect many have traded hands.

What the hell, Real? Haha. I had a pretty good ticket going, some of the toughest legs done and dusted, thought Real was almost a sure thing, and then the lineup showed up and I feared the worst.

2 nil down, then they got one back, odds were actually 5/1 even going down then so even the bookies have faith, but serves me right if they don't win. Ha.

My bad advice: If you're ahead, keep Haaland, lose Jesus. Arsenal might win this, but they are probably going to allow goals, and doubt seeing Jesus converting.

My worse advice: If you're chasing, then you need to gamble. Arsenal want this win, and Pep might take his experimentation a bit too far. Out all City, max out Arsenal for a whooping.

Oh sick, we have a new round of games tonight already didn't even realise it until I looked at some livescores hoping to pick future dates. Villa is back on my ticket these days and I hope they continue some good run of games, but I guess it's really Leicester and Leeds we should be watching for some nail-biting desperado action, huh.

Be a brave soul that picks either to win.

Game 1:  41, 31'
Game 2:  41, 11'

1. Verstappen
2. Verstappen
3. Sainz
4. 6 seconds

Saw a lovely freebet in my account today, thanks for crediting that so quickly =D Went right onto Southampton again for their game vs Newcastle (10/1).

^ Edit: Sorry, jumped the gun. That was for a La Liga pool yellow cap. Well done, me!

We'll need every bit of help we can get to qualify for Champions League, I know deep down we don't deserve it and should just spend a season in the wilderness for our sins, but hey, if you told me today we'd secure it on last day of season after slip-ups from Newcastle/United, I'll take it all with a big smile.

Good luck to the cup players. Slissy is the City in there gunning for the double!

At this point, yeah, the cup won't save them from the ire of their fans. Losing it would probably just tip over into all out rebellion right now.

Everyone hates Ajax in NL I think, except, for some reason, the people I know in the big cities haha. But yes, no one needs fans who risk the club getting fined etc.

Hate to say it, but that club needed a deep reboot anyway.

That's more than okay, OP. The idea for most of us regular folks is to just stack as many sats as you can, for as long as you can.

I did get over 1 BTC some years back but was forced to liquidate. And while I've certainly earned many, many coins, it is my income so I have to sell the bulk of what I earn. It's what I can save every now and then that eventually is moved to a cold wallet.

There will be plenty of dips, and crashes, to come. DCA ensures you are positioned to take advantage. You never know...

I'm with LFC_Bitcoin. We don't deserve Champions League, so if we somehow steal it, it better not be from Newcastle... Spurs was a deeper humiliation than United's 7-0 I think.


Hear, hear. I was actually 4th from bottom at one stage, and that's bottom in reality with at least 3 players no longer putting in picks. I'm hanging on to a spot in La Liga, but it's a big mess everywhere else. Makes you question how much you really know about football, huh?

Hey! Nice I won the little side special (I know, results not final, but feels good nevertheless) because those kits!!

@arallmuus looks like you got the better of me, even if Brighton wins we have the same picks for Barca, so you win this already now that both DOTA favourites are in the finals. Don't think I'll need to worry about relegation as a point should be enough to secure myself, but I really needed this win, well done you!

@slaman you need 2 more wins and that may not be enough, ready to do a Watford/Norwich?

Terrible season for me all around the pools and BSFL, I really need to reconsider the way I do things, huh!

@Woodie: bet on Casemiro sending off heh heh

Wow. I know some of you said it wasn't a surprise but I have to admit I didn't see this coming. Ajax in third place and maybe, just maybe even forced to consider having to fight off in the playoff for a spot in Conference League!

Alkmaar continues to upstage my expectations, can they pip Ajax to a guaranteed spot next season (that's even if they don't buy their own ticket by winning Conference)?

That's actually not true for me (I say this I realise with complete bias). I loved watching him play, the chaos he caused, the runs he makes, I honestly think he's just been unlucky. Since he got injured and doesn't make full appearances, his quality does seem to have dropped a level though.

Moved him out for Jota, Salah back in. Seems to have worked, probably going to keep them in now for the remainder of the season and just restrategise next one.

Man, how did this news escape me? Juventus won appeal? So we're teaching everyone again, hey it's okay. Use money and break the rules, and if you get caught, use money to overturn shit.

Shame on them, really, if this stays the same.

Anyone else spamming Inter to lose? Empoli was only 58/10 but I still took it. They already have more chances on target vs nil chances from the away team.

I'd like to see from my spirit plane every other currency estimated in Bitcoin. Moneychangers having every single forex paired with BTC. Of course, by that point, the same satoshi can buy the same loaf of bread over the span of several hundred years.

If we still eat bread by then and moneychangers still exist, that is.

No one hurt more than me (except Saints fans I guess)... but this literally is the story of this thread, very low win percentage, and long stretches of sorrow, sometimes some really crazy wins in a row but generally quite demotivating when it comes to weeks like you've just seen. Big odds, and drawing, the funny thing is how of all the losses, Saints odds were the biggest but they probably deserved the win.

Mainz was a great bet to take, but then it was only 5/1 when I checked, and so, not nearly enough for me to add it (even knowing how crap Bayern has been).

BVB better not throw away this gift.

Feel free to return at a later time when you feel like throwing money on longshots heh. And thank you, always, I know it's a fairly quiet thread but it's nice to know it brings some entertainment to some of you here =D

Just realised mitch and darbit have such huge leads in the first 2 spots. Haven't paid attention much in this pool, given the hopelessness of my situation. Can't even get Saints win to cheer me up, the draw was the worst possible outcome for either team honestly.


Was trying to watch it while doing some kitchen stuff, I managed to miss every single goal, but it seemed like we looked great up front and like clowns back down. I know we're trying to play with confidence and swagger but sometimes when you're leaking goals you just have to clear balls like your life mattered.

Still, nice to see Jota back on Song and Salah marching on. Setpiece goals, not really how we're set up though, and how are we not dealing with throw-ins when we actually have a coach just for that? Ha.

Now that you ask I wonder what the setup in other stadiums are as well. Where I'm from in Southeast Asia, there are no VIP boxes, just "grandstand" box, in the middle with just sofas so it's pretty close to the field as well, players can actually (and have in the past) jumped up and hugged presidents etc haha.

But the two I've seen in England are high up above. Best views, since you see the entire pitch, but definitely lacking some of the fanatic atmosphere. At Anfield, for example, the best atmosphere seats are at the Kop -- but it's a sort of misnomer as no one sits at that section, and most of it's filled with season ticket holders. But you see almost nothing, to be honest. You wait til your team attacks your end, and hope they camp there all game so it's fun. The other half, if you're dominating, happens up field and you kind of are guessing what's going on.

The VIP boxes are above, and generally are quieter =D

As a neutral, I'd definitely take the VIP cushy seats. Drink, talk, watch everything. Not sure why Trofo/cryptofrka are not too drunk to respond here!

I have a feeling this is precisely what will happen in the end. I did think Basel was the frontrunner, and if they do make it to the final with Alkmaar, it's probably theirs, worth a punt for me if that happens. Or on Alkmaar on a "lift the title market" if the odds are delicious enough. They're going to be one of those teams that will disintegrate next season I feel, and they know it, so they might try and make it a last hurrah.

You can leave a comment in the doc, or leave address here, or PM, all is good!


Just message support and notify them about this pool. TOR is a mess more and more I find...


Loved having you here, and everyone else of course! I think I had a fair go at it, but Liverpool cost me, Napoli cost me, and I didn't use my brain.

7th is a prize spot! 10 mbtc ++ in fact. OP has full details, but I'll update the exact amounts. Send me an address, there are still 5 games left to play, so things can change but I prefer to chase down addresses now rather than later so I can prep my batch tx.