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2681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero Support on: March 06, 2016, 12:30:59 AM
I couldn't find a seednode list, so I ran without giving an exclusive node, but with "--out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1" with good success.

That's a good approach. If one node gets stuck or fails it should usually switch to another one. Depending on the network of the chosen peer, it might be slow, but should retain the bandwidth-efficiency of picking a specific node while being more reliable (good for unattended syncing).

I don't ever recommend limit-rate-down unless you are trying to reserve some of your own connection for some reason (video streaming, VOIP, etc.). It won't reduce your bandwidth usage, only make things take longer.


2682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 05, 2016, 11:11:49 PM
However, I will agree on your broader point that if ETH grows sufficiently (say two orders of magnitude from where is now) then it will become the de facto blockchain platform on which everything else is built, and that will include privacy-preserving systems such as Monero.

I don't see that as a competitive advantage for ETH relative to XMR.  All the things that make ETH valuable are actually impediments to fungible liquidity.  At the moment XMR is benefiting from BTC hedging on fear regarding blocksize controversy, and on diversification flows from ETH profit-takers.  But those effects will blow past as the events recede.  The long-term value proposition of XMR is currency, and is quite unrelated to that of ETH. They just aren't comparables. ETH is a platform, not a currency -- by design is profoundly ill-suited to use as a currency.  You don't buy stuff with CPU cycles.  You don't keep your savings in AWS units.  

ETH as a platform can be used to build currencies. Currencies require, at their core, a global consensus on the distribution of the money supply, and that is the function that ETH aims to offer in a general-purpose platform. It maybe an expensive, complex, and in some ways undesirable way to do it, but it certainly can be done. If something becomes dominant enough, it will be used regardless of its structural weakness and costs. A lot of computing is still done in Windows. This is all an extreme long shot though, but since we are all about speculation here, that's a long term one with >0 probability.
2683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: HOdlcoin HODL OTC thread [bid: 0.00012000 ask: 0.00013999 last: 0.00013000] on: March 05, 2016, 10:57:25 PM
Smooth, are you still doing OTC? If so I'll buy 1,230 @ .00013999 as per listed above.  To which address shall I send the btc?

Yes I'm still doing it. If it is not in bold (and that one is not) then you need to contact the seller ('proletariat' in this case) directly and work out a trade. I can escrow if both contact me and agree to it.



I agree for escrow.

Please work out the details of the trade between you and PM me.
2684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 05, 2016, 10:51:20 PM
Why would ppl move from eth to xmr?


I think if anything, it would be the other way around. Ethereum has essentially cloned Monero at this point.

I disagree on that point. What has been 'cloned' is a cryptographic primitive. Monero does not have a "mixer", so the design is entirely different. If anything what was created for ETH is closer to SDC than XMR (doubly-so once ETH switches to proof-of-stake).

However, I will agree on your broader point that if ETH grows sufficiently (say two orders of magnitude from where is now) then it will become the de facto blockchain platform on which everything else is built, and that will include privacy-preserving systems such as Monero.

That's a "big if" though. While ETH appears to be gaining momentum at the moment, the vast majority of systems that attempt to grow by two orders of magnitude stumble and fail at some point.

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1) Hashrate securing cryptonote chains is dwindling, whilst ETH is increasing,

The hash rate on Monero has not been "dwindling" (and the other "cryptonote chains" don't matter), it has been quite stable. While there is a lag, if the price holds up where it is now the Monero hash rate will certainly increase a lot.

2685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: HOdlcoin HODL OTC thread [bid: 0.00012000 ask: 0.00013999 last: 0.00013000] on: March 05, 2016, 08:57:29 PM
Smooth, are you still doing OTC? If so I'll buy 1,230 @ .00013999 as per listed above.  To which address shall I send the btc?

Yes I'm still doing it. If it is not in bold (and that one is not) then you need to contact the seller ('proletariat' in this case) directly and work out a trade. I can escrow if both contact me and agree to it.

2686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 05, 2016, 08:54:47 PM
Well it would be nice if the team or somebody else can develop an user friendly 1 click wallet right? Would also gain more people and attention...

There is also a simple web wallet I see, is it safe option as well?

It's from fluffypony, who is a core-team member, thus considered safe as in trustworthy. However, one should always be cautious with using webwallets.

More specifically there have been successful thefts. Fluffypony explicitly recommends not storing too large an amount there, and instead using it for convenient access to smaller amounts.
2687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: HOdlcoin HODL OTC thread [bid: 0.00012000 ask: 0.00013999 last: 0.00013000] on: March 05, 2016, 10:55:06 AM
Hmmmm . . . I'm thinking there may be continued demand for this OTC thread even after listing on major exchanges . . . users will be reluctant to list large sell orders on exchanges because of the large amount of interest they'll lose with funds on an exchange. Already seeing the HODL on alcurEX drying up a little.

Yeah that is definitely a consideration. BTW, although my OP states that I keep interest on escrowed coins for my fee in practice I've given at least some of it back to the coin owners when sending refunds (based on a guesstimated amount). The main reason I stated it that way in the OP is not wanting to have to track all the interest separately.
2688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero Support on: March 05, 2016, 10:49:42 AM
using "--p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1" resulted in no network activity

That means your outgoing connection to the exclusive node did not work. Either the node you chose isn't working any more or your node is having trouble with outgoing connections (firewall issue, etc.)

Your syncing appears to be happening on multiple incoming connections, which aren't so easily limited, but are easily blocked (using the above option):

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2016-Mar-05 10:45:06.376823 [P2P8][62.210.245.87:33885 INC]Synced 93601/983931
2016-Mar-05 10:45:53.243136 [P2P3][73.8.137.244:55437 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 95001 -> 981505 [886504 blocks (615 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2016-Mar-05 10:45:58.458835 [P2P5][173.255.220.42:4587 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 95001 -> 449346 [354345 blocks (246 days) behind]
2016-Mar-05 10:46:18.889231 [P2P7][41.164.163.114:52465 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 95401 -> 983933 [888532 blocks (617 days) behind]
2689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero Support on: March 05, 2016, 09:35:17 AM
Can I reduce the bandwidth demand of the sync process somehow?

Yes:

1. Download the blockchain.raw bootstrap and import it using blockchain_import

or

2. Pick one peer and use --add-exclusive-node peer --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1 for initial sync, then restart normally.

There is a certain amount of redundant downloading from multiple peers (specific depend on network conditions, your node performance, etc.). Either of the above will eliminate it.

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So it takes 40 minutes to sync 6,500 blocks? Is that normal?

That is absolutely not normal, especially with an SSD. Are you sure you don't have something else using up CPU/RAM. I can sync almost the whole chain in 40 minutes on a mobile i7.

2690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 05, 2016, 06:45:24 AM
Since Monero is fungible (nice!) it can't have colored coins, correct? One XMR = one XMR.

Not in the same way as Bitcoin. We are looking at how best to approach assets as a research goal.

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Lets say as a business I would like to make a 10 million USD (Monero market cap), international, private and instant transaction with another company. Monero would be perfect for this. But since Monero is fungible, I can't just color a coin and say it represents our 10 million USD transaction.

This use case does not really work. Let's say you could send a colored coin that was "worth" 10 million USD. What is the recipient supposed to do with with this colored coin? They can't spend it, at least not unless they can find someone who also trusts you to owe them 10 million USD. It represents an IOU, but in order for the recipient to actually get their money you would need to send a wire transfer or something, so why not just do that in the first place. Or if you really want an IOU, you can send a digitally signed email (and store a hash of it in a blockchain if you think that is useful).

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How can such a thing currently be solved without moving the price too much?

Increase the market cap and liquidity so that 10 million USD can easily be accommodated.
2691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 04, 2016, 08:09:48 PM
Every time I do a transaction from mymonero I need to pay 0.015 XMR.
Is this a fee from mymonero or is it a necessary transaction fee from the network?

I think 0.01 is the fee from the network (which depends on the size of the transaction) and MyMonero adds 0.005, but I'm not sure. You should ask MyMonero support.
2692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 04, 2016, 10:17:34 AM
For every 10x in price, it is prudent to share half of the position
Where would be the x10 base objectively? (For XMR in general, not individually).

Maybe someone should sell half there.

IMO it is 100k satoshi.

So at 1M everybody sell half lol

I don't mean that you sell in chunks of half of your position. You can as well divide the selling more evenly, but always sell at ATH, which provides more coins to the market when they need it, and diversifies your portfolio when you need it.

Many who are reading this are behind their accumulation phase already. We had 2 years of cheap coins so you have to be slow to not have time to buy what you wanted. If we assume an average unwealthy investor whose cost basis is 200ksat and XMR is 10% of the portfolio, the reduction of position by half until the time it is 2M makes perfect sense. If this does not happen, XMR becomes 50% of the portfolio which is rather much.

Btw, while I see the latest action as part of the quantum foam, technicals still apply and the intraday triple top at the historical strong resistance zone of 275k indicates a Fib retracement in the following days, my target is 230k.

If it is breached however, next stop is 400-430k. Place your bets if you are onto trading.

Agree.

I think it will either spike just above 300 (320) or above 350 (360).

klee, red is not allowed except for moderation. I deleted your post but quoted it fully above using blue instead
2693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 03, 2016, 12:48:28 PM
Deleted for off topic

Couple of questions for fluffy.

So what happened at the Satoshi Roundtable conference ?!
Who won the fist fight ?
What and how much exactly did you/the other guy drink that night ?
Chairs were broken - who paid for the damage ?


/s

(Reference: https://mobile.twitter.com/fluffyponyza/status/704113681219624960)

Who the f... invited this moron ?!



Why offtopic ? Fluffyponzy is the lead dev, he had a seat at the conference, community needs to know what kind of a moron he is!

Has nothing to do with speculation

2694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 03, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Deleted for off topic





Couple of questions for fluffy.

So what happened at the Satoshi Roundtable conference ?!
Who won the fist fight ?
What and how much exactly did you/the other guy drink that night ?
Chairs were broken - who paid for the damage ?


/s

(Reference: https://mobile.twitter.com/fluffyponyza/status/704113681219624960)

Who the f... invited this moron ?!

2695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 03, 2016, 11:24:14 AM
This is an XMR thread, not an ETH thread. Please stay on topic and post your feelings about ETH in the ETH thread. Thanks.

It was on topic because of this claim:

"Don't forget its all over for XMR once ring signature dapp comes out (Vitalik personally working on it!)"

A reminder: Comments that express a negative trading or technological opinion on XMR, if supported by some sort of reasoning or evidence, are absolutely on-topic. Whether positive or negative, that comments are on-topic does not make them correct (or incorrect). Readers should evaluate all opinions carefully.
2696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 03, 2016, 05:02:31 AM
Etherium has brought a lot of money into Poloniex.
Once people who have money in Etherium are awfully rich, Monero might be getting some investments from there also and it might mean a mega move in the price of XMR.
Therefore it is good not to start a war against ETH but start to tell them about a great opportunity to diversify their assets. ETH serves its purpose well and XMR has entirely different purpose (it's intended to be cash equivalent money).

If Ethereum is vaporware, I'm going to say so. This whole "don't alienate the potential investor" is the same thing the dashtards used in an attempt mitigate criticism. I'm still not convinced if Ethereum will or won't do what it claims--and frankly, I don't really follow it as it isn't in the privacy sector--but if it looks like BS, I'm certainly going to say so no matter what the implications are to anyone's stack. Grow a spine, TC.

Regardless of whether one alienates ETH investors or not it is certainly the case that ETH has brought a lot of money (and margin buying power) into the market and I do agree with TC that some of that money is spilling over to other markets (including XMR but also unfortunately including a new crop of pure scamcoin that are being launched at an increased rate).
2697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero Support on: March 03, 2016, 04:01:54 AM
I typed ./blockchain_export and got this

can't load blockchain storage from file, generating genesis block.
Segmentation fault (core dumped).


No .raw file.  The export was supposed to go to home/a/.bitmonero/export/blockchain.raw
The .bitmonero directory contains
bitmonero.log dump lmdb p2pstate.bin poolstate.bin

I now have a 7.3 Meg executable file named blockchain_dump in my main monero directory, not sure if it was there before.

Sorry, it turns out that the blockchain utilities are currently hard coded to use the old memory format as an input. If you want to create a .raw file from a database you will have to change this line:

#define SOURCE_DB DB_MEMORY

to this:

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#define SOURCE_DB DB_LMDB

And then recompile.

If you aren't prepared to recompile, you will have to wait until this gets addressed in a new release.

You can also sync the new computer exclusively from the old one (won't use any external bandwidth if they are both on the same network) by launching it with:

bitmonerod --add-exclusive-node ip-address-of-old-computer:18080 --p2p-bind-port 127.0.0.1

Once it syncs you can exit and relaunch normally.

2698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: March 03, 2016, 03:54:59 AM

That blog post doesn't mention the weaknesses of Cryptonote/RingCT which I have explained numerous time. I posted a comment to that blog and it still hasn't appeared. Thus so far, I think that blog is a monero shilling vehicle and not objective.

I'm not sure it is a shilling vehicle, though it might be. Zcash appears to have paid PR going on which gets it a lot of coverage in places like Wired (along with grossly unethical pumping from bitcoin.com, owned by Roger Ver, an investor in Zcash), while Monero does not. Thus it is quite plausible that people might just want to respond to the aggressive Zcash shilling and point out some less rosy perspectives on it that you certainly won't hear from the paid PR and pumpers.
2699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 02, 2016, 11:28:49 PM
Bitcoin will continue to have transaction fees increase unless they have some big changes fast.  This will force all low value transactions out. 

It doesn't necessarily bother me if Bitcoin wants to force out low value transactions. If it wants to become digital gold or fedwire, that's perfectly fine. Just do a good job with the implementation and the transition. That it isn't doing so is my criticism.

Their poor execution is making life easier for other solutions like Dash, no question about that.

2700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero Support on: March 02, 2016, 10:41:10 PM
I am new, have been running bitmonerod for just a couple of days.
I have to use wifi, and it took eleven hours downloading time, even though I have an ssd.
I am getting a new computer, and would like to save time by transferring the Monero blockchain directly from my old computer to the new one, or onto a flash drive first and then to the new computer.
How would you go about doing this?
My present computer is 32bit, running ubuntu 14.04.
I am going to buy a new 64bit chromebook and install linux on it, and run a monero node.

The best way is to use the blockchain_export utility to create a .raw file, copy that to the new computer, then use the blockchain_import utility on the new computer.

It might be possible copy the database files (I don't remember if they are portable between 32 bit and 64 bit) but the above will double check everything and make sure everything is properly validated on the new computer. It will take some processing time (let it run overnight), but not bandwidth.




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