I got 50 AIR with your pools name on it (ctrlaltdefeated), and I don't even mine there!

Gimme an address to send it to.

Make a new profile.. A calmer one.

Hmm... You could always.. I don't know... call me crazy... but...

SUPPORT your coin. (Singular)

Most of these coins are all based off a horrible model that is living in a novelty of its own design. This is what happens when you try to ride the coat-tails of success, and then only exploit it yourself.

These alt-coins were created to pull you off other coins and scam the stupid people with pumps! Success, it worked! (By the way, you are about a year late learning that, and complaining about it.)

Those who can sell, will sell. Those who can't, keep it going. Remember, someone is buying those coins that are selling. You should have sold at the top, and you should be buying at the discounted lows. Guess who is going to get more money than you... Everyone buying now...

Stop playing day-trader. You are not a day-trader. These are not day-trading exchanges. They are barely trade-exchanges.

Try going to the actual trade-exchanges where some of these "decent" coins live. There you can play day-trader all day long! Though I doubt you will do any better, until you learn how the trade-market works.

Try flat-out investing. It's a novel idea. Trading only lowers value. Well, the way you guys trade, it makes us value. lol.

Next time... There is always next time...

I hear there is a new coin... What's it called... Hold-on, let me get my WiKi of coins list... (You knew the problem. You just refused to admit it, act on it, or do anything about it. Reality fail. Listen to your gut next time, not the troll-boxes.)

First rule in investing is RESEARCH, second rule is RESEARCH, third rule is RESEARCH... I forget the fourth rule, but it may be RESEARCH.

Ok, investment tip of the day...



You notice the people cashing-out are hitting about 2000 AIR at a time, roughly...

Move the bulk of your buy-orders around that point, wherever it is. That is how you "catch" the "dump".

Don't re-list those orders if you catch them. (Not right away.) Save a few BTC to buy the top-listed "Sell-order". (You can afford it, and that helps to restore the price back UP, so you can LATER sell SOME of those captured coins for a better deal. If you list them right away, as a Sell-order, you scare everyone away, making it take longer. Everyone will just list below your giant wall.)

Another tip...

On the reverse side... You see people buying up to 500 AIR at a "pump" or "investment purchase"... Move your sell-orders to that point, wherever that is. That is how you "catch" that "pump".

Another tip...

If you PAID to much for the coins you hold, you should think about buying more. (Sounds nuts right...)
You need to buy more at a lower price, duh! Especially when you see it lower than normal. (Bonus if you do the above suggestion.)

Why? Because buying 100 at $1.25 per coin, then buying 100 more at $0.75 on a decent dump... Your "price paid" for the 200 is only $1.00 each. You can now sell those for less of a loss, or for a gain, if the price rises to $1.00-$1.25 and never rises past that point. Otherwise you would have just lost, holding that 100 coins. (Ok, you need to compensate for trade-fees, but you get the idea.)

P.S. If you only have enough to buy 100 coins, never buy more than 1-10 coins at a time. If the price falls more, buy some more. You just lowered your cost per coin. (Um, if it is perpetually falling, take a loss and sell. Catch it at the bottom. Don't hold it all the way down.)

P.P.S. This is not a day-trade coin. (Not yet) If you think the price is too low to mine, duh, then buy it! If you think the price is too high, duh, then sell it! Be careful what you wish for. If the value rises enough to "support you", 10,000 others will see that too, and come to mine it. You will be complaining 10,000 times as much then. Unless you held your coins the whole time. Oh yea, you cashed out, to "be supported". Miner fail.

P.P.P.S. Don't list all your coins where someone can snipe them up, if you never intended to sell them. (Or where they would scare any value away from the listing market of buyers.) List them at crazy prices way above, or if buying with BTC you list them at crazy prices way below. That shows the total available potential coins to buy/sell without screwing with your values. That, or just snipe-up good deals. That annoys bot-traders... They never see you coming!

P.P.P.P.S. Practice destroying other coins, not the coins you intend to support, that can easily support you in the future. There are plenty of other coins to destroy, that need to die-off. lol. This one needs to grow. Sip the wine, don't chug it... it may be poisoned!

Why would you expect the devs to stop some idiot from selling his coins for less? (Which is giving us discounted coins.)

Know the difference between a crash and a cash-out.

Want the value to rise, buy some coins.
Want your coins to sell, lower the price you are asking for them.

It isn't the devs job to buy your debt. Stability isn't "Support me by buying my coins". Stability is LIMITING damage from false pumps and using those holdings for AIDING the restoration after a "Cash-out"... Nothing can stop a cash-out from happening. Those people who were smart enough to list BUYS at those lows, just got a killer discount on coins. (Try it, it is called hedging losses. Every coin you buy lower, allows you to sell your higher coins for less at no loss, and even for gains.)

The coin has not even been on the exchange a whole week, and already it is strong and stable. A few more weeks of this, and we are past the biggest hurdle. "False pumps with no volume value". (That is what leaves everyone as a bag-holder, unless they take action to cut losses.)

They know what they are doing.

So do I. (You will see my buy and sell catches all over the chart now. End-limit resistance that, if taken advantage of, rewards us. Since I am here, at the moment, protecting my investment. Which, involves aiding in the protection of your investment. This is not a job-coin, don't expect it to be treated as one. Getting more BTC soon... But it is not my job to pay you for your work. If you were actually working, I would pay you.)

Just some food for thought... When you mine...

These are numbers for what you should expect to get, roughly, as difficulty climbs.


We are at the 17-22 diff range at the moment. That is roughly 2 AIR coins per day, per 7970. (~$2 at the price now)
(A 6x rig of 3MHs would be about 12 AIR per day, or about ~$12 a day.)

When DIFF climbs to 51, everyone will be getting half as much, and desire 2x more than you see now, on the charts.
When DIFF climbs to 204, everyone will be getting 1/10th as much, and desire 10x more than you see now, on the charts.
When DIFF climbs to 2000, ... desire will be 100x
When DIFF climbs to 20,000... desire will be 1000x

However, it is never linear... so at 2x, they will actually get only about 1.5x-1.8x, and when it is 204, they will get about 7x-8.5x... Since there is always someone before, who can cash-out for less, and still be in a gain. That, plus exponential growth of coins "in hand", once mined.

That is why you want to mine the hell out of this coin, NOW, to cash-in later. Much later... For that 7x-7000x gain. Not for a quick "pay my bills" exchange NOW.

That is just a quick recap for the obvious new-comers who have not quite figured-out how mining works yet.

If it grows too fast, everyone gets excited and starts dumping... That is not good for the coin, or your un-cashed "investment". That is why slower growth, done by management, is "better". As long as the miners keep coming.

I would like to request the addition of AIRcoin.
[ANN] AIRcoin - 19th Largest Cryptocoin by Marketcap

Difficulty is now at about 16-20 and value is roughly about 0.00150000-0.00200000BTC per AIR (About $1.00-$1.25 per AIR)
Exchanged on www.poloniex.com

Headed to Cryptsy soon.

If you would like to help bring more notice to the coin, ask that it be added to CoinWarz.com

www.CoinWarz.com

There is a "Contact Us" web-form on the bottom-right of the web-page. Just request that he consider adding AIR to the charts, and tell him the primary exchange it is on. (Poloneix.com)

You will then see, visually, how well the coin is doing in actual "value", not just BTC-relation, which is useless without knowing the price of BTC, at that moment is is worth x-BTC. However, that will surely bring more miners, who will, in turn, add value to the coins you have previously earned.

If you are just going for BTC quantity, no matter what the BTC value is (being worth $40 or $4000), and don't care what the actual USD value is.
You might be interested in being listed here also...
www.CoinChoose.com
(Contact them in the forums to get it added. CoinChoose - alternative site to show respective profitability of the alt coins)

Not sure how they will handle the coin-reward-value as it changes... but they might just pull that from the daemon, or estimate it, like the lotto-coins do. (However those lotto-reward coins are not estimated correctly. That is why so many people get tricked into mining those horrible coins. Lotto-reward coins are the ones with a ( ? ) after the block-reward.)

P.S. Going on another shopping-spree.

P.P.S. Difficulty now down to 16.937255859375 (1.11M), should be easier to get more of those pre-popular coins. Just wait until 0.001 coin is your daily mining effort, and that is worth $10-$20 a day. Then you won't be complaining about the 3-20 coins a day you earn now. (Depending on the number of rigs you are pointing at the coin. I still believe 6-card rigs are the average. [3MHs] per individual.)

P.P.P.S. Comparable coins with that scrypt difficulty level are...
DigiByte
ReddCoin
WorldCoin
42coin
MoonCoin (Wow, it still has a lot of miners. lol.)

P.P.P.P.S. Not long before we are up to par with these coins...
MegaCoin
Philosopherstone
BitBar
CatCoin (Not KittehCoin <- scamcoin)
AnonCoin
TagCoin

P.P.P.P.P.S. Income-tax checks are finally starting to post into the exchanges now. The next wave of value should be flooding the market soon. (The IRS stalled checks by 21 days this year, for most people. That, and it takes about 10-20 days for most of these exchanges to actually process incoming checks. Also, Gox is nearing opening again. That will make more BTC available to many of us who have been in purgatory for the last few months.)

Scrypt ASIC's have been out for almost a month... (Gridseed and variants)

They are not like sha-256 ASIC's. They cost a hell of a lot for the same hash-rate. (It is cheaper to get any sha-256 ASIC, mine BTC, and buy the alt-coins directly. scrypt-ASIC's are years away from being worth purchasing, unless scrypt-values rise. So, again, not a threat. Long-term, they are not worth it, though they save power... New ASIC's that don't rape your wallet, are around the corner. Still, those are not as valuable as the sha-256 ASIC's. FYI those gridseeds only cost about $5.00 to make. Tell me who is winning that war. He buys 10 for every 1 you buy from him, and pockets the rest. You will never be more than him, on any market. )

(Not promoting this site, just showing it.)
http://hashra.com/gridseed-3-mh-s-scrypt-sha-miner-including-psu-accessories/

As far as I know, the 50MHs and 100MHs and 300MHs sites are all fake "give me a loan, we want to try and make a miner" sites... Most have been shown, hands down, to be flat-out scams. The ones that are not, are still not worth the money. It is still cheaper to buy coins for gains, then it is to mine, for almost any coin.

However, mining + buying, together, allows you to manipulate the market by hash-rate and value.

AIR needs more miners at the moment. You want that diff to rise. If it falls, enough for you to "cash-out NOW", you will cash-out now, and cause it to drop more. Obviously, that is the majority of any new coin that starts. It is a hurdle for every coin. One that AIR has already thwarted on one step, and will continue to do. (Unlike AUR and DOGE and MEOW and all the other coins that were purposely pumped to create bag-holders.)

Seriously, if you are complaining only one week into the launch on an exchange... You have already identified yourself as one of those who do that. Sorry that your diabolical plans of value-rape and pumps are failing.

One year... that is what EVERYONE should be holding for. You mine steady all year, then you can complain if the end of the year has lower returns. (I mined coins all last year, which my estimates were $3.00-$5.00 a day per miner-rig. At the end of the year, the estimates jumped up to $39-$58 per day, per rig. When I cashed those out, it was as if I had earned those values, all year long. THAT is how you mine. THAT is your goal.)

AIR has that ability. I don't know any other coin that does, besides BTC and LTC, which is being manipulated by the big investors. (AUR could have been, if it wasn't controlled by a bank that failed holding money. What did everyone think would happen. They failed as a bank, now they want to try to control crypto. lol. Those guys will scam everyone out of crypto, like they scammed their money-holders.)

Bitcoin

Not always better... Some miners don't like small workloads. (Mine prefer them. I get better hash-rates, and the bonus of slightly faster submit-times.) Do NOT do this on sha-256 coins. They don't use a lot of memory.

If you have 7970's another odd trick is trying the +1 to the "--thread-concurrency 8192" (8192 works on all miners. But 8193 makes about half of them work about 5%-2% faster. That is a dicey setting. It either works, or it does not work.)

Other than that, I just have my cards tuned for 600-700KHs, depending on the PSU limits. I have a bunch of crappy reference designs that suck at cooling. Only about half of them suck. (I could push 728KHs out of most of them, but need more cooling in the summer.)

Oh another strange thing... Usually seen only on super-fast block-times... below 30-seconds... If you select the "Receive" tab, not the "Overview" or the "Transaction" tab... The wallet seems to respond faster to "new blocks". (Might be all the column/row checking that is slowing down the miner, looking for all those "confirmed" status updates. They don't seem to happen on that tab. Have not noticed any difference mining coins greater than 30-seconds. So here, that will not matter. This is a 1.5-minute block-time.)

Last thing, for those who may not do it... Use multiple pools on this coin. As failover setups. Pools seem to be getting DDOSed, due to this being a successful source of pulling miners off other coins.

Buy high, sell low... Oh no, I got that backwards... Sell low, buy high! JK. (Only do that if you want to support the network!)

Ok, done buying for a few hours... Tag, you're it!

It just opened a week ago... Price was obviously too high to start, for the prior listed earned coins.

I am sure there wasn't a specific deadline for the "rising exchange rate". Though, I am seeing stability forming. That is a horribly slow exchange to expect lightning-fast response-times on. They didn't say "zero volatility" and "forever rising". That is impossible unless they purchase all your debt. They simply control a range above and below, to allow trading to be possible. Like a buffer.

Seriously, in this short of a time, you expected instant results? (Though, they have already given instant results. Just not ones you want.)

P.S. I am also buying and selling, manipulating the market, in favor of "getting more miners". (At my own losses/costs, for future rewards.)

It's about time!



Perhaps the reality-bug has bitten them! (Could be a good sign for us too. Them not doubling-up on orders that would cause them to fall even further behind.)

I still look out my door every day, and wonder when that sexy UPS girl is going to come and drop a load on my door-step. Oh, and my miner too!

I was not dictating... That was my unbiased and honest opinion.

A dictator demands, telling you what to do. (I simply voiced my suggestion.)

Stay, go... It's all the same to me... I mine, buy, sell, trade... I screw myself more than anyone! That is like banking at your own bank, then complaining because there is not enough of your money to withdraw! (Because you loaned it all out, to make yourself more money.)

I just hate people who whine about it, like we TOLD them to mine the coin, and forced them to mine or buy. No-one ever said reward was immediate and fruitful for all. It can't be. Someone has to lose for someone-else to gain. If we all won, we would all be average, and the reward would only pay everyone's electric bills. Which is not what "Investment" is about. It is about GAINS and LOSSES, and SUPPORT. Not "Sit on the toilet and do nothing but complain when my turds are not turning into solid gold." (Sorry for the crudeness.) Also, in order for us to all win, the electric company would have to be the one buying our coins... They have no reason to do that. (Or we would have to pay for electricity with our coins, buying them back from the electric company, so they get the money. Thus, making us all losers. )

What did they think, price was just going to double and double and double and double, in a week, on some off-beat exchange? (One I might add, was recently hacked and people do not trust.)

There are only a hand-full of decent coins. A swath of OK coins, and a whole Wiki full of junk-coins. Air is in the swath, until it rises out of the shadows. For being in the shadows, it is doing better than some coins that have been here for a whole year. Let them get settled before you start complaining about golden turds not appearing in your toilets. (Again, not directed at anyone individual.)

We still have to keep the diff constantly rising, slowly, to add the initial distributed value to the coin, and rarity of volume. Which also includes buying-up some of these listings... if that includes letting the price fall to make those purchases less of a burden to us, than that is what will happen. You don't HAVE to sell that low. Once those are sold, they are gone. It is the others that are not listed, you have to worry about. (Well not gone, but they will not likely appear in the lower ranges later-on.)

The best thing this coin has done to help us, is having that low volume/reward.

That hash rate is from? Pool totals? Because I still have miners solo-mining, and I am sure others do too. (Time between blocks is still showing about 1.6-1.7 avg, so it can not be that far off.)

However, I hit a double-block a while back, 10-seconds apart. Happens to me a lot. Seems I have good seeds in my wallet nonce's!

I see a few 1-min blocks, and a few other 30-sec blocks... so expect a little variance until the hash-rate of the network pushes the coin up into the 200-2,000 Diff. There are less lotto-winners there. (Every new block is a new lotto-drawing. Some win on the first ticket, others actually have to buy/hash multiple tickets to win. That is why more devices mining actually prevails over one fast machine of equal speed. More instant-scratch-offs turned-in at once.)

Also, having smaller workloads helps here. You have to finish processing the whole workload before it is actually submitted and checked for a winner. Workload-size of 64 is 4x faster to submit than a workload-size of 256... EG, while you are still "building work", I have submitted 4 possible solutions by the time you have submitted and checked one large workload. Even if you had a bigger solution in the first result, mine in the 3rd, I would have won that solution, as my 3rd was submitted before you even knew you had a winner to submit. (The side effect is you get more rejects, as you are submitting faster. If you have not finished processing, and you get a "new block found", you have to dump that large block of work, and thus, never even check it for winners you may have had. Because there is now a new block to build off-of. Or you submit it, just before another one was found, and then it does show as a reject. But again, that is 1/4 the submitted potential rejects.)

At the moment, value is primarily based off what some miner is accepting for the coins they earned. Your coins mined now will not get decent returns until these "easy-mined" coins have all been purchased. The coins they are selling NOW are the coins they/we mined BEFORE the diff-hike. Keeping the value from spiking, will stop those guys from taking what value should be yours, in the future, as they take it now. EG, you raise the price, we will cash-out and take it before you. We have more coins, that cost us less to produce. That makes it harder for you to cash-out later, if the price rises too early. Staying low, forces us to hold, or limits our cash-outs. Transferring value to the ones who purchased those coins now, which will rise later. Then THEY will be YOUR competition, not us, who got them easier. YOU will then be able to sell YOUR cheaper earned coins, faster than those people who purchased them. Thus, at that FUTURE DATE you will be in OUR shoes. They will be complaining just like you are now.

Allowing it to spike, simply brings TONS of hoppers, who will try to instantly flash-diff through the roof, lowering everyone's reward. They would then pump the hell out of the market, using very few BTC, with little resistance. (Thus a false premature rise/pump.) Then once enough have been "suckered" and there was enough listed volume below... They would dump.

You want to control the market, and stop people from cashing-out... Don't list high volume to buy, which tempts them to cash-out for one lump-sum. Make them pay for it, by listing only a few at each level. If they are that desperate, they will cash-out lower, at a loss to them, and at a gain to you. On the reverse, if you want the price to rise, don't throw walls that stop people from being able to let the price rise. Walls are great, if they are behind a few low-valued coins.

Using walls to try to push a market up or down is just moronic. Someone will swipe-up those easy lump-sum coins, then instantly re-list them on the other side as a wall in the opposite direction. To win, you have to snipe-up coins from unlisted holdings.

Remember, everyone who mined before you, got them with less effort and at a lower production cost. Those who come after you, if you are mining now, will get even less than you. (Unless you leave, then they will be the ones getting more than those who follow in later days.)

This is not a day-trade coin, and these are not day-trade exchanges. You are not a day-trader, stop pretending to be. (Or keep pretending, I like taking your losses and turning them into my gains. )

P.S. That was to no-one in general. Just my typical rant to the children crying over not getting rich from a scam-coin... Go play with MOON or LOTTO or KITTEH or another one of those fake value coins. They are dropping from the markets anyways. Soon, if you are lucky, they will have to be traded against DEV-COIN in order to have any possible value. I feel sorry for the guys who fell for those scams. It's a hard lesson to learn, but not one that is easy to digest. Those coins were made to pull you off of valuable coins, and manipulated to hell, to take any value you had. Cut your losses and move on or stay and sink with those ships.

P.P.S. If you are having issues comparing this coin to darkcoin... You might want to stop buying and mining, until you figure that out. Just saying... (Not that there is anything wrong with darkcoin. But there is little comparison, other than the fact that they are both just coins.)

You want the price to raise... Buy coins. Also, mine them, to sustain the difficulty, so future listings of coins can not be sold as low. It is just as simple as that. The more it rises, the more miners will come to mine it... So don't come back again and then complain that diff is too high. The price would have to lower, to make the diff fall lower. Diff is supposed to climb, that is what drives the price up. If diff doubles, everyone is getting half as many, and they have to ask for twice as much. If you have not figured this out yet... Again, you should not be mining.

Yea, KGW is actually too low for response-time... (The speed of adjusting up or down. Not horrible, but not great.)

However, it is still better than not having it at all. (Diff would not react fast enough, letting 4x-20x blocks be over-mined in a day, then force us to mine for days, with /4 and /20 blocks found after the hoppers would have left.)

There are few hoppers. However, there is still one big hopper somewhere, or that is a pool falling out of connection from these attacks, then coming back again.

Actually, the well, you want it to do the opposite. It should fall faster than it rises. Since "luck" can cause false hash-rate illusions when someone hits a lot of blocks. However, if actual hoppers joined, you don't want that instant rise, just enough to boot them off. Since that is not the true "hash-rate", just a swarm of drive-by visitors who will end-up only getting a share-value from only 3.72 coins for that one or two blocks, before they leave. It should nearly instantly go back to being "correct" for the steady miners. Otherwise you are actually favoring hoppers the other way.

Still, the KGW seems off, both ways. Too slow up, and too slow down. However, that does make the transitions a lot less crippling to everyone. Less crippling than day-adjustments. Seems to take about only 10-20 coins to adjust up or down correctly. Actually makes DDOS ineffective to do. Look at that as the big bonus. By the time the DDOS is over, the coin difficulty has only slipped down a hair. They gain nothing by knocking large volumes off the coin.

Just needs some fine-tuning... (That is my opinion)

As for... "It isn't valuable to mine" (Now, as that is what you are implying by the price NOW...) You are a hopper... Hop away. This coin is for investors, mining for FUTURE value. The future value rises with difficulty rise. It is never proportional, never has been on any coin. Stop complaining about how LIFE works, as if it is the issue of the coin to solve. The price NOW is irrelevant, unless you intend to just dump. Which makes you a hopper. Go ahead and dump. Those coins will be a nice bonus for us. Ones that it cost us less to buy, than to mine. If it is not profitable YET for you, then duh, you have to hold them until the reward for what you mined, is there in the price. Sell higher and wait for someone to buy it, like the rest of us. Or get off your ass, and convince someone that this coin is worth the investment. Like I said before, this is not a spectator sport, you have to participate. Driving to the game to watch it (mining), is not "participation". The coin is what you make it. Your value is what you convince others that it is. If you do nothing, you should expect nothing in return. If you see no value here, don't mine it. Lowers the difficulty for those of us who do find it valuable.

Nature is not to be trusted. Humans are just an accessory to nature.

Like I said, 92% That might explain the high error-rate, when operating at higher turbo-frequency and voltage. (Higher heat resistance, exhausting through the sensitive CPU and memory, as well as the associated "RF noise", screwing with the data-bits.)

I will be playing with RF-Chokes when I do my review also. (In addition to the thermal review, and the overall design review.) Anything that gets me slightly more valid work, for less effort or the same effort, I am going to try. Also building my own DIY heat-pipes at the moment. Trying Water, Alcohol, Lighter-fluid, and Butane. Not all in one heat-pipe. That is four variations. Not for the faint of heart!)