That is just too bad. After exposing his immense ego, which got the best of him all the time, and antagonizing him rather virulently because some of his initiatives at BC were quite outrageous and in my opinion damaging for the coin -I hadn't discovered the scams inside BC then-, I came to respect him for at least having ideas even if only 20% of them, at the most, good ones with the 80% left pretty outrageous and potentially damaging. When all of this blew off, I told him he had put himself in a lose-lose situation... even though he had converted the donations to fiat and, at the time, the price of BC was way below than it had been at the time of the donations, so he could easily return the coins and still have some extra left. For simplicity reasons, he offered the charity option but that is not acceptable because many people has antagonized him and want their donations back... and they have every right to have them. Sorry IE, but there's no two-ways about this. It goes with the territory. To react with the ego above the head, carries consequences. You HAVE to return that money. First, it is not true, if I recall correctly, that the price of today is higher than it was at the time of most donations. Second, even if it was at some time during the donations, some of them were made in BTC and LTC and price of BTC has gone considerably up. I know you are now on another coin and being successful. Congrats. I know you just don't want the hassle it represents to return the money one by one. It IS a hassle. But you chose to engage on that hassle and it is your responsibility to do whatever is needed to come out of it. The excuse that it will cost you more now than you get is simply not true and, even if it was -and I repeat, it is NOT- it is your fault for so much delaying the return of funds that should have started weeks ago.

For all of those reasons and conditioned to the proper return of funds to all those who have requested and are willing to contact you about it, you are prominently included on the Wall of Shame.

Good luck with the new coin though.

Well if you still think I am IE, then you are way more stupid than I thought. The charges that I made point to pre-mine of over 35 million coings by The Doge and St.GNU. What you just posted is very small potatoes. But obviously you are not going to see that, are you, no matter how evident? The fact that la Mano Nera gives away the Titan for the Multipool _a separate business from BC owned fully by St.GNU and the DOGE- is also of no consequence to you, is it? The FACT that morituri13.dognip showed at the offices of the PR for the meeting with the flower pants kid, as the visible head of la Mano Nera that he is, also means nothing to you, right? Nor the fact thata the still available post in which morituri13 admitted in the thread to be part of a "group of investors" (Mano Nera) working on the inside and determining the strategies of the coin, controlling when and how much the pool buys and every other aspect of the coin, including the Foundation, means nothing to you either.... OK, it's your money. We are here -I am-, to include them in the Wall of Shame. And they are, so every new investor can be warned.

You may choose to believe whatever pleases you most of fits your particular agenda better.

I guess I'll have to PM directly myself... since you guys don't post the link to such a statement...

 Wow, wow, wow... The wall of Shame is going to be formed but we don't need lists without any specifics. That is not as helpful as it could be. For instance, I don't have any specifics indicating the Spaincoin is a scam. The work of a totally inept and very stupid dev, indeed, but scam? not necessarily... Pesetacoin I don't know any specifics, but they have been around for quite a long time. UTC... why is it a scam? You have to provide some short ofdetails as to why you think they are scams or other reasons to be included in the Walls of Shame. Lack of success is not a reason for them to be listed here.

Show me where he says that and I will include him immediately. Because I have plenty of posts in which he has said the opposite and in fact some form of returning it should have been already implemented.

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

More details, please.

There's plenty of space here for them. But scampools are, in many cases, in cahoots with the devs, for instance, the Libertycoin scam and the BC scam.

Added but more details, as specific as possible would be helpful.

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

You just kind of did, didn't you?

Bad for you that it is something to be decided on a case by case basis... and based on credibility. Ain't real freedom great?

Cloak and every single one that is even remotely suspect. Even remotely. The tables have been turned, hadn't you heard?

Even idiots like you are allowed to post their nonsense here with total freedom.

A needed change in crypto, IMO.

You haven't deleted these posts (yet) from your own thread... but you haven't answered them either. You did deleted mine because I reached the same conclusion everyone with common sense reached there, though... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.40

That's not proof positive. How many have you mined, how many have you bought and when and how many wallets and which numbers they are, that would be (some, hardly definitive) proof of what you claim. Hey, if you leased the power, there's nothing wrong with it. If you bought cheap, again, nothing wrong with it but, yet, you deleted the posts and bumped me off the IRC room when I questioned you about this, why? I know you have arrangements that force you to censor your thread (your agreement with IconicExpert, specifically). Hey, that's all fine and dandy but won't get you out of the Wall of Shame, sorry. If you want to come out clean, and you are, this will always be open and uncensored, but not as long as your establishment doesn't allow legitimate questioning and practices censorship. If you are in fact clean, real investors/traders won't give a shit about anything anyone posts anywhere, so here's is your opportunity to make the most of it. Just posting the blockchain, sorry, doesn't cut it.

First things first. Perhaps I am mistaken and you are not part of the dev/Foundation? If you are not, I apologize for you have every right to post anything, no matter how stupid it may be. If you are part of the Foundation, sorry but your apology doesn't cut the mustard. The "veil of anonymity" is that "Yodaminer" is just a handle, probably one of many, which allows you to hide with impunity. While as a normal individual you have every right to it, as a part of the leadership of this coin you shouldn't. And you will be held accountable.

I don't rightly know what you mean by "your side" (I have no side, I was considering the possibility on investing in this coin, period) , but calling you for stupidity was not an attack, it was a statement of fact. You chose to post the stupidity for no other reason than you can do it. With impunity. Well, that now comes with consequences.

The sarcasm not only doesn't cut the mustard, it shows you are really not good at it. And since I do not wish you to continue perpetuating unacceptable behaviors, I won't wish you anything but the worst.

The bullshit will stop.

Hey guys, creating a coin and leaving it to grow by itself is an exercise in absurdity. If you don't constantly promote it, it's not going anywhere any time soon.

I understand the event in San Francisco will take place Tuesday the 10th and it is a big thing where you will be giving away 2 million ZIPs to San Franciscans. This needs to be promoted, with details, schedule, location...

After a great start -including the gifts- it looks now like Elvis has left the building... what's going on?

UPDATE. JUNE 13TH, 6:30pm PACIFIC:

#Zippercoin just showed up an hour ago for the first time in almost a week on their twitter account posting that they just passed 5 million coins in San Francisco. I imagine it is the event planned for the 10th when they had planned to distribute -or pass- 2 million coins. There's no evidence posted anywhere that I have seen of such "passing", no pictures, no comments...

The wallet, that was stuck for days, is now operational again. No gifts have been passed for over a week to supporters, posters and sharer on FB. Weird indeed.

Thank you for your 2 cents but it'd be helpful if you let everyone know why do you think the dev at Honorcoin is a scammer... I myself have put their code in my signature and registered for their wallet because I don't suspect any one and much less if they offer coins for free, but now I am, of course, quite interested. Also, to make more aesthetically pleasing the thread and easier to locate the accused scammers, please everyone BOL or color/bold the names/handles and their coin. Thanks!

Another one bites the dust:

Yadaminer, at CAIx coin. I had been researching the coin because it has had an enormous decline in price and my curiosity was piqued: It could be the end of it or a great investing opportunity. I researched their very confusing and complicated model and had a lot of questions and clarifications. Naturally, I posted them in their forum to get answers. I got some answers -not even close to all the answers- and the ones I got weren't even close to satisfactory. But judge for yourselves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.new#new

Yadaminer earned his position here, as posted, for being an idiot and a coward. And posting insulting FUD to try to cover the obvious weakness of the coin and the model that, by the way, continues speeding down towards the precipice. I don't know if they are scammers or not, but some of them, at least this Yadaminer, acts like one. Because there's impunity. Not NO FUCKING MORE. If you cannot stand the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen!

See, quotes such as this one, will bring you to the wall of shame. I have been very kind and very delicately in posting my questions and doubts and reflecting the absolute, 100% reality. Everyone is quite free of having their own opinion about what I and everyone have posted. But the only FUD here is, precisely, this post of yours. Which is shameful because you are one of the monitors/dev, i.e the part that has to provide detailed information, show respect and HONESTLY AND FAIRLY, further his agenda.

This stupidity puts you in the Wall of Shame. No more impunity for those hiding under the veil of anonymity. You are going to have to use other handles because your number has been taken. The cowardly "attack the messenger" to avoid facing the music tactic, is over. You are being made in-famous.

For stupid.

There's only one reason to be anonymous. The same reason there is to censor your threads: They have something to hide. There's absolutely no other reason. And anonymity allos them total impunity, on one hand, and the opportunity to do it over and over again. That's why this thread exists.

This is the retard that, exposed as he is above, still continues dispelling falsehoods, including the absurdity that I am IconicExpert. Mind you, the only reason he does it, fully knowing it is not true, is to further his agenda with La Mano Nera at BC . But we all know by now quite clearly who is who and what are their motivations. Keep an eye on this guy (although I am pretty sure he has several handles): He is part of a well know and thoroughly researched scam. Be aware.

By the way I believe IconicExpert is indeed pushing CLOAK. At least in his Twitter account he is. Just to keep the perspective in what this imbecile is and what is his agenda.