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Yep looks better now on my end.
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I'm sorry but that just reminds me of a swastika. for me it is not svastika.Svastika it is not nazi symbol,svastica it is most ancient archetype,it is more han 40000 years old,you can find that symbol in many native culture,it is symbol of neverending ,undestroyed energy and tradtionalsymbol of luck and good fortune Nazi were also usin got mit uns,god with us,that you can also find in modern societys,like in god we trust etc It's the 45 degree angle. In crypto-world ,controvery itself is a mean of marketing. I like your logo design. Lol thanks. Wasnt shooting for controversy. Just turned an S on its side, used a gradiant and embossed and plastic wrapped to make it look like conncting nodes to the s, and the darkness at the bottom to represent spread. Circle and square to trigger hypnotic effect. |
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I'm sorry but that just reminds me of a swastika. Sorry. I dont see any resemblance. Its an s for spread tilted like 45 degrees..  |
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You guys gotta fix your typography on main page. The Bold has made lettering blurry. On my res anyways.
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Well could always just be someone adding 4 or 5 laptops..
Only like 12 or so nice cores going here...
maybe interest in spread has gained some cpus.
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Haha
Well going through individual conversations to decide the weaver and council. Please Pm if interested.
Is that camel sleeping or dead?
And Yeh. Dark black cock coin truly. Amazing.
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Only invest what you can afford to lose. Here is some food for thought.  FriedCat is involved in this? Or you're saying its like a lottery ticket? |
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What about this? Transfer complete control of the entire ICO to David, and have smart contracts written for the funding of the various projects and development needed. I know we are building a trustless, decentralized system, but in this case; and to begin with, there is still a massive amount of human trust needed to launch this project efficiently. In cryptos, trust is built by successful and field tested developers, which David is. I believe with the smart contracts in place and the control, being given to the designer of the project; public transparency and trust could be adequately achieved with little to no question on the merit of the project, with superior program efficient control of all funds. At this point, I can see a troll storm comin... and newbie dev team with a fistful of public money, well, it'll feed the hurricane. As shallow as it seems, I would not give 5$ to a newbie dev ico. For Zimbeck, I would consider an adequate investment as he is an extremely respected and long standing member of the crypto community. He is also is beyond greed and truly has a passion for the completion and implementations of the core of cryptocurrency philosophy. This could be something huge, but right now it is unfortunately appearing not much more then rest, fancy looking marketing and maybes, without any backbone but the lead dev, who's credibility is completely alone and on the line. The 'wait and see' investors, will be much smaller then the 'I believe in this investors'. I want to believe. (-; I believe in Zimbeck but Bitbay Team, A little more please.  We understand your concern. We have a team of VERY talented people. Mr Zimbeck heads up our development side and as such he will have his own account with funds set aside for the purpose of bitbay coin development. We have a marketing side which will have some funds set aside for them as well. The majority of the funds will be held in our new wallet with multi-sig. David will have one of those keys and a voice as to how funds are spent. It's your prerogative to invest or not. We are not forcing anyone to invest. If you chose to do so that you that on your own volition. Awesome thanks for the reply. Again although vague. Majority is not good enough, as whoever you are has no risk here. The only risk is the public's and Davids. I am not speaking on his behalf here in anyway, just know that he is an integral part of cryptos in general, and do not want to see him shoved through the mud, by the assault of trolls that will come if the ICO is completed at anything less then perfection. Which is the program you are selling in your ICO; trustless perfection. To use it to mitigate these risks would seem logical. Of course it is everyone's perogative to invest or not. That is not the issue. The issue would of course be, the actual implementation of this project into your own marketing strategy, and 'business' structure involving control of the public funds. If its smart contracts you're selling, (of course among other things) the entire project should be run with them to stand by your project and the developer creating the core of it. I would believe involving smart contracts, public transparency on all aspects of every contract, would be quite easily produced for public review. After all it is their/our money. Again, as much as i would love to believe your 17th post 'We are a team of VERY talented people', 'well most of the money will have a multisig'; im sorry but it presently has no merit. There is no plan for this in your brilliant marketing. (I assume this is what you mean by talented, it is quite good) Cryptos cannot afford another failed ipo, especially in the dire need to see a project like this succeed. This is why i am speaking and asking. Again thank you for your reply. Just figure you can do better then.. 'well, don't invest if you don't wanna. the lead dev has a say in most of it..' His ass. Should be his show. The entire project should be laid out in smart contracts based on this premise. edit: 14th post Yeah man, chill. When you invest in facebook does Mark send you an email stating where he plans on spending your invested funds? Holy shit. I didn't realize facebook was decentralized... Or ever.. Had a public offering to uninformed investors without beyond accurate and particular financial details and statistics.. they allow that on the nyse now? or.. |
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What about this? Transfer complete control of the entire ICO to David, and have smart contracts written for the funding of the various projects and development needed. I know we are building a trustless, decentralized system, but in this case; and to begin with, there is still a massive amount of human trust needed to launch this project efficiently. In cryptos, trust is built by successful and field tested developers, which David is. I believe with the smart contracts in place and the control, being given to the designer of the project; public transparency and trust could be adequately achieved with little to no question on the merit of the project, with superior program efficient control of all funds. At this point, I can see a troll storm comin... and newbie dev team with a fistful of public money, well, it'll feed the hurricane. As shallow as it seems, I would not give 5$ to a newbie dev ico. For Zimbeck, I would consider an adequate investment as he is an extremely respected and long standing member of the crypto community. He is also is beyond greed and truly has a passion for the completion and implementations of the core of cryptocurrency philosophy. This could be something huge, but right now it is unfortunately appearing not much more then rest, fancy looking marketing and maybes, without any backbone but the lead dev, who's credibility is completely alone and on the line. The 'wait and see' investors, will be much smaller then the 'I believe in this investors'. I want to believe. (-; I believe in Zimbeck but Bitbay Team, A little more please. We understand your concern. We have a team of VERY talented people. Mr Zimbeck heads up our development side and as such he will have his own account with funds set aside for the purpose of bitbay coin development. We have a marketing side which will have some funds set aside for them as well. The majority of the funds will be held in our new wallet with multi-sig. David will have one of those keys and a voice as to how funds are spent. It's your prerogative to invest or not. We are not forcing anyone to invest. If you chose to do so that you that on your own volition. Awesome thanks for the reply. Again although vague. Majority is not good enough, as whoever you are has no risk here. The only risk is the public's and Davids. I am not speaking on his behalf here in anyway, just know that he is an integral part of cryptos in general, and do not want to see him shoved through the mud, by the assault of trolls that will come if the ICO is completed at anything less then perfection. Which is the program you are selling in your ICO; trustless perfection. To use it to mitigate these risks would seem logical. Of course it is everyone's perogative to invest or not. That is not the issue. The issue would of course be, the actual implementation of this project into your own marketing strategy, and 'business' structure involving control of the public funds. If its smart contracts you're selling, (of course among other things) the entire project should be run with them to stand by your project and the developer creating the core of it. I would believe involving smart contracts, public transparency on all aspects of every contract, would be quite easily produced for public review. After all it is their/our money. Again, as much as i would love to believe your 17th post 'We are a team of VERY talented people', 'well most of the money will have a multisig'; im sorry but it presently has no merit. There is no plan for this in your brilliant marketing. (I assume this is what you mean by talented, it is quite good) Cryptos cannot afford another failed ipo, especially in the dire need to see a project like this succeed. This is why i am speaking and asking. Again thank you for your reply. Just figure you can do better then.. 'well, don't invest if you don't wanna. the lead dev has a say in most of it..' His ass. Should be his show. The entire project should be laid out in smart contracts based on this premise. edit: 14th post Once again, we understand your concern. You need to understand that when you buy into an ICO, ITO or what have you, that you're buying the coin/token. The coin/token is what you get in return. As a bonus there's a dev team behind the coin working tirelessly to bring that coin to market and have it prevail as a top 10 coin. It's not our business or any other dev team for that matter to explain where every dollar of funds raised goes to. We have our own interior accounting set up, multi-sig and smart contracts will be a part of that. But you need to understand that our main goal and focus is to make our investors money and build one of the greatest cryptocoins to ever exist. It's not to be on the forum all day accounting for every expenditure we have. Once again. It's your prerogative to invest or not. We have explained about who we are with more information to come and what our goals are. If you're interested in investing then we welcome you to do so. If not, that's ok too. We have already lined up a large portion of the financing we will need and that will be reflected by the sells on BTER in the coming days. We hope to see you around as well in the coming days as we think your first impression may change shortly. Um no.. as opposed to forums, I'm sure a google sheet, with expenditures available for every token holder would be sufficient. And yes, in a public funding scenario. Every dollar or cent should be accounted for. Hence the regulatory attacks and legions of upset ipo/ico investors.. 'We have already lined up a large portion of the financing we will need and that will be reflected by the sells on BTER in the coming days." - What does this mean? 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What about this? Transfer complete control of the entire ICO to David, and have smart contracts written for the funding of the various projects and development needed. I know we are building a trustless, decentralized system, but in this case; and to begin with, there is still a massive amount of human trust needed to launch this project efficiently. In cryptos, trust is built by successful and field tested developers, which David is. I believe with the smart contracts in place and the control, being given to the designer of the project; public transparency and trust could be adequately achieved with little to no question on the merit of the project, with superior program efficient control of all funds. At this point, I can see a troll storm comin... and newbie dev team with a fistful of public money, well, it'll feed the hurricane. As shallow as it seems, I would not give 5$ to a newbie dev ico. For Zimbeck, I would consider an adequate investment as he is an extremely respected and long standing member of the crypto community. He is also is beyond greed and truly has a passion for the completion and implementations of the core of cryptocurrency philosophy. This could be something huge, but right now it is unfortunately appearing not much more then rest, fancy looking marketing and maybes, without any backbone but the lead dev, who's credibility is completely alone and on the line. The 'wait and see' investors, will be much smaller then the 'I believe in this investors'. I want to believe. (-; I believe in Zimbeck but Bitbay Team, A little more please. We understand your concern. We have a team of VERY talented people. Mr Zimbeck heads up our development side and as such he will have his own account with funds set aside for the purpose of bitbay coin development. We have a marketing side which will have some funds set aside for them as well. The majority of the funds will be held in our new wallet with multi-sig. David will have one of those keys and a voice as to how funds are spent. It's your prerogative to invest or not. We are not forcing anyone to invest. If you chose to do so that you that on your own volition. Awesome thanks for the reply. Again although vague. Majority is not good enough, as whoever you are has no risk here. The only risk is the public's and Davids. I am not speaking on his behalf here in anyway, just know that he is an integral part of cryptos in general, and do not want to see him shoved through the mud, by the assault of trolls that will come if the ICO is completed at anything less then perfection. Which is the program you are selling in your ICO; trustless perfection. To use it to mitigate these risks would seem logical. Of course it is everyone's perogative to invest or not. That is not the issue. The issue would of course be, the actual implementation of this project into your own marketing strategy, and 'business' structure involving control of the public funds. If its smart contracts you're selling, (of course among other things) the entire project should be run with them to stand by your project and the developer creating the core of it. I would believe involving smart contracts, public transparency on all aspects of every contract, would be quite easily produced for public review. After all it is their/our money. Again, as much as i would love to believe your 17th post 'We are a team of VERY talented people', 'well most of the money will have a multisig'; im sorry but it presently has no merit. There is no plan for this in your brilliant marketing. (I assume this is what you mean by talented, it is quite good) Cryptos cannot afford another failed ipo, especially in the dire need to see a project like this succeed. This is why i am speaking and asking. Again thank you for your reply. Just figure you can do better then.. 'well, don't invest if you don't wanna. the lead dev has a say in most of it..' His ass. Should be his show. The entire project should be laid out in smart contracts based on this premise. edit: 14th post |
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Yeah, this is a very important concern even for me. And I realize my reputation is on the line when I license my code. Even worse, like you said, I could get blamed because the public is pretty unsympathetic. So how about this post here verifies that and the Bitbay team I think can and should back me up on this to exonerate me from anything if we get left alone during the project cycle.
But lets make this clear to the planet. In Crypto currently, my job is to make software and to make double deposit escrow used worldwide. Not to make coins. My role in Blackcoin was to avoid making a new coin at all costs. But working alone is very difficult and although Blackcoin does come through a lot, its just so much faster if I stop walking away from people who want to pay devs. But as the year went by and I continuously turned down work it got really exhausting and now that I'm considering that my dev cycle would have been faster if I opened up a bit to entertain the investing parties. Its no mystery that I'm tired of coding alone.
They made a deposit so, thats a good start. If they had not made one I would not be talking right now.
You should put this team on a smart contract. (-; And yeah man totally understand, think last time I talked to you, you were buried in 700k lines worth of code, working utterly alone. Personally, if the entire ico was to be held by you, I would feel more confident then with a newbie of 16 posts, unable to verify who they are until the completion of the ico. If its your reputation, should be your bank as well. In the few conversations I've had with you, I'd trust ya with public money, including my own. Not really sure how this ico is setup, a phantom, thoroughly engrained in china.. really isn't good enough for me personally. And lol.. you should make new coins!! just start shill accounts like everyone else does.. haha I believe tho, your honest posts here should enough to keep the wolves at bay. woops... no pun intended haha Well they did make a deposit. So thats a good start. Absolutely. That's more then most would do. (-; |
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What about this? Transfer complete control of the entire ICO to David, and have smart contracts written for the funding of the various projects and development needed. I know we are building a trustless, decentralized system, but in this case; and to begin with, there is still a massive amount of human trust needed to launch this project efficiently. In cryptos, trust is built by successful and field tested developers, which David is. I believe with the smart contracts in place and the control, being given to the designer of the project; public transparency and trust could be adequately achieved with little to no question on the merit of the project, with superior program efficient control of all funds. At this point, I can see a troll storm comin... and newbie dev team with a fistful of public money, well, it'll feed the hurricane. As shallow as it seems, I would not give 5$ to a newbie dev ico. For Zimbeck, I would consider an adequate investment as he is an extremely respected and long standing member of the crypto community. He is also is beyond greed and truly has a passion for the completion and implementations of the core of cryptocurrency philosophy. This could be something huge, but right now it is unfortunately appearing not much more then rest, fancy looking marketing and maybes, without any backbone but the lead dev, who's credibility is completely alone and on the line. The 'wait and see' investors, will be much smaller then the 'I believe in this investors'. I want to believe. (-; I believe in Zimbeck but Bitbay Team, A little more please. |
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Yeah, this is a very important concern even for me. And I realize my reputation is on the line when I license my code. Even worse, like you said, I could get blamed because the public is pretty unsympathetic. So how about this post here verifies that and the Bitbay team I think can and should back me up on this to exonerate me from anything if we get left alone during the project cycle.
But lets make this clear to the planet. In Crypto currently, my job is to make software and to make double deposit escrow used worldwide. Not to make coins. My role in Blackcoin was to avoid making a new coin at all costs. But working alone is very difficult and although Blackcoin does come through a lot, its just so much faster if I stop walking away from people who want to pay devs. But as the year went by and I continuously turned down work it got really exhausting and now that I'm considering that my dev cycle would have been faster if I opened up a bit to entertain the investing parties. Its no mystery that I'm tired of coding alone.
They made a deposit so, thats a good start. If they had not made one I would not be talking right now.
You should put this team on a smart contract. (-; And yeah man totally understand, think last time I talked to you, you were buried in 700k lines worth of code, working utterly alone. Personally, if the entire ico was to be held by you, I would feel more confident then with a newbie of 16 posts, unable to verify who they are until the completion of the ico. If its your reputation, should be your bank as well. In the few conversations I've had with you, I'd trust ya with public money, including my own. Not really sure how this ico is setup, a phantom, thoroughly engrained in china.. really isn't good enough for me personally. And lol.. you should make new coins!! just start shill accounts like everyone else does.. haha I believe tho, your honest posts here should enough to keep the wolves at bay. woops... no pun intended haha |
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This is a good question actually! The best one yet. So here is the thing. They arent just getting Halo, they will be getting my services throughout the coins life span. This doesn't detract from Blackcoin stuff since for now, most of the work is similar in nature. They explained in depth to me that they are in it for the long run. They were excited a few of them it was their first time starting their own coin and decided they wanted the best features. Now, what makes the fact that they licensed a good thing (at least from my point of view) is that they are actually treating this like a business. Halo is actually open source for review and building purposes. I just change the variable names. It will go open source eventually and so they will next in line behind rat4 from Blackcoin to get that source. My timeline for open source is basically after things settle down and my client has everything automated and the people using it couldnt be happier. I'm David, the maker of Halo and if you download BitHalo/BlackHalo you will see that it very much exists. If you email me personally I can even show you how to make a contract. Hows that sound? As for the markets, please check out Blackcoins subreddit, the markets are almost done. If you notice in Halo, Bitmessage had been integrated since May 29th of last year. My main delay was just planning and marketing since I was working alone at the time. The markets use a system of whitelists/burn and a remanufactured Bitmessage to fully decentralize the internet. But in a good way. These white listed markets can allow for a trust building system amongst nodes and is what I believe to be, the future of the internet. Bitmessage needed to be recoded and 4.4 release fixed a bug I was complaining about for almost 4 months. I'm very happy that Atheros was able to go back to coding and fixed it. However, burn will not be attached to the first release since I would have to change the rules for our peers by adding it to the payload and tying it to the Blackcoin and Bay networks. Also, I'm having a kill switch in the first Beta market to give people some time to play with it and report bugs during its beta(while i code in burn). So this way, i can have frequent releases and still monitor the markets. The screenshots for the new BitHalo markets are on reddit. There is lots of questions about how much I want to automate in the first version. Baycoin helping out, actually helps me from getting stuck with "scope creep" as they will be interested in funding a dev team which is why I got excited and took the deal. You guys should skip the 3000btc ipo on an exchange.. and do it on your own marketplace? Why would you use an exchange if you already have a marketplace?
Little bit confused here. Wouldn't this be the best way to enter into smart contracts?
I've never used Bter before. Would prefer to invest through your client.
Let me know if this will be an option.
Thanks!
Sorry read the rest of the op. There is no wallet or smart contracts yet. Or marketplace. This coin hasn't even launched yet? So in order to release a wallet. You're asking for 1.5 million dollars? What does it mean when you say. You are licensing bithalo? I thought it was to be open source? Please explain what you mean my licensing, and provide links to where the proposed public funding would be spent. I'm only here because I'm interested, but just some head scratching going on here, as it seems you're advertising a nonexistent product. Perhaps I've read something wrong or missed some links. Thanks for a response. Thanks for the reply David. On a personal note I am among many others admirers of your work. I don't know, nor do I think anyone knows who the Bitbay guys are. Many ICOs have gone horrible wrong and no offense to BTER, but there have been multiple times, massive amounts of money have gone missing there. Unfortunately, it is soley your reputation on the line, as the majority, if not all the rest of the people involved here are unknown. But I of course will respect your judgement in your choice of team. It would be nice if they decided to share the responsibility of not only success but also failure if unable to complete their end of the deal (as i could not see your end of the deal not holding up) The last thing I would want to see is you run out of crypto as a scapegoat for lost public money and phantom developers vanishing into the void. In saying that, I do wish the Bitbay team the best, but think it would be fair to also share personal information as your lead dev has. The only credibility here is you, David Zimbeck; I don't see anything else. (if this isn't the case please provide the missed reference) Good luck guys. Ill be watching, and I'll invest into a smart contract project, through a smart contract; If that option arises. |
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You guys should skip the 3000btc ipo on an exchange.. and do it on your own marketplace? Why would you use an exchange if you already have a marketplace?
Little bit confused here. Wouldn't this be the best way to enter into smart contracts?
I've never used Bter before. Would prefer to invest through your client.
Let me know if this will be an option.
Thanks!
Sorry read the rest of the op. There is no wallet or smart contracts yet. Or marketplace. This coin hasn't even launched yet? So in order to release a wallet. You're asking for 1.5 million dollars? What does it mean when you say. You are licensing bithalo? I thought it was to be open source? Please explain what you mean my licensing, and provide links to where the proposed public funding would be spent. I'm only here because I'm interested, but just some head scratching going on here, as it seems you're advertising a nonexistent product. Perhaps I've read something wrong or missed some links. Thanks for a response. |
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You guys should skip the 3000btc ipo on an exchange.. and do it on your own marketplace? Why would you use an exchange if you already have a marketplace?
Little bit confused here. Wouldn't this be the best way to enter into smart contracts?
I've never used Bter before. Would prefer to invest through your client.
Let me know if this will be an option.
Thanks!
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