Dev, if you can't release the source code to give people real evidence, I think there is nobody will trust you and your coin... If you want this coin to be really great, please out your code and prove it is a revolution innovation!
Absolutely. He's missing this point entirely and dooming his project to failure (and our investments). . . Every valuable coin out there either has an open source code, or POD. Something, anything, needs to be proven or there is nothing here people can trust. |
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Someone made the smart observation earlier that Mammoth dev you may not want to release your identity because of the country you live in and what the gov would do to a known and skilled crypto coder.
Having that code and being the only one who has it also ties it to you. If you are caught with it now, there is no question you were the skilled creator. But if the code is released and you are found with it, it could be something you just downloaded from the internet....Making you not a person with skills who is a threat to government, but some low skills nobody copycat...Releasing the code gives you the perfect cover.
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we are working on the new site, some issues there but we will fix it soon and make a good surprise for you.
Best surprise would be release of the code. . .Help us to trust Mammoth Coin. We don't need to know who you are, but we need proof that your tech is legit.If the code was out and scrutinized, I for one will help by going to other threads of "anon" coins and tell them to come here instead, I'll make more videos, I'll email publications, I will do everything I can....But its really hard to promote this when I can't be sure that its real. If its proven, I'm going to put hard work into it - I'm sure a lot of people watching this would. @remistevens it's very legit & respected by authorities, it's best possible tech for anonymity currently we have in altcoin industry. It's something new. It's used at OpenBaazar and many other trustless products. Our design little different than OpenBazaar as concepts but it works and deliver performance. You can see it works, just try it. You can see every step actually happens and works. The problem is when we release the codes many other copy cats will occur. We have already enough hype, they try to sell their very trust based systems as trustless. For users like you have no chance to see the job here done unless you are really a good tech person. That's why we need do videos, promotions and websites. Thank you, your response is very much appreciated. I apologize if its simply my lack of technical knowledge, but I still don't understand. Isn't it possible that someone could write a code that allows the wallets to visually depict something fake? A trick. For instance the "guarantor" was really just the usual transaction verifier and didn't actually hold any funds in escrow...or maybe a central node that is invisible to the standard wallet? I'm very skeptical of a new technology that no one is allowed to rip open and scrutinize. Couldn't this just be smoke and mirrors? So my concerns are: 1) If the code isn't released how can we be sure of everything in it? 2) What happens if and when you die? The code is then lost completely forever? How can this currency have a future when its a guarantee one day it will not be possible to adjust/add to it? 1) You can read the whitepaper here http://www.mammothcoin.org/SuperSend_Trustless.pdf and for example run after each anonymous send special command. "getlastanontxinfo" (in help console). Trustless systems is not unknown thing but it requires really competent people to apply. It lists all processes or whats happening during the transfer. It is trust-less system you do not need to trust us, dev team or somewhat any central guarantor or mixer. System also does not trust anyone. In other anonymous coins you must trust dev team. Our system creates one multisig address out of nothing and you can find this in getlastanontxinfo and confirm in block explorer. If anything not ok, transfer automatically rejects everyone gets its money back. You can see how system works in schemes in whitepaper. 2) when i am or all dev team die, but if people still uses mammothcoin wallets, they can keep using trustless system as long as there are alive nodes. I cant just shut it down it. I can close my own trusltess QT. If you mean this. But people will provide still some alive wallets. Because they make money. We give %1 or min 0.25 MAMM rewards randomly in the network for each mixer wallet plays role in the anonymous transfer. So I have no control over mixers or guarantor wallets. This risk is currently exists in other anonymous solutions, actually they can do alot worse things with your anonymous transfers. You basically sending coins to dev team pocket and they may send it to other party or may not. They can keep master nodes (mixer wallets) open today but close tomorrow. Their master nodes may be hacked and they lose wallet coins like anyone can have. Openbazaar video explains this very goodly. Thanks so much, and please know that I'm not accusing you of trickery. I just want to know how we can know for sure that trickery is impossible in regards to your coin. When you rule something out, it helps people trust this system you've created. 1)The whitepaper and video excellently describe the theory behind the process, I understand it well, and the 'getlastanontxinfo' command certainly shows the processes in action. What I don't understand is IF the info listed by 'getlastanontxinfo' can be faked? If another team wanted to created a coin that looks like it does what your coin does, could they do that through trickery? Could they make a coin that lists processes that didn't actually happen?...Who knows maybe that would be even more difficult that writing an escrow that works, but is it possible? Again this is my lack of technical knowledge speaking. 2)I know we don't rely on you now and you can't change the system. I'm more concerned with unforeseen problems. Many coins have desperately needed a fork down the road because something happened in the system that made it unusable/unstable. If no one can provide a fork once you've died, unforeseen problems can't be repaired. Thanks again! Allow me explain you some more. There is nothing bad can happen the system has designed & tested so well and it delivers the performance as anyone can expect from a trustless system. If you follow the path in whitepaper you will see the logic needed there. (bytheway though logic is there people cant simply copy it because it takes huge amount of coding and skilled developers). You cant just fake a such command because it's developed by us only and it works and gives you everything you need to question trustless system. You can not find this command in other altcoin wallets for this reason. Another team? Allow me have me some fun. lol, those i see are mainly hype artists or extra sense. There is nothing they can do and we can not. But this does not mean we will sell like mad. Because we born in a dream land (like alice in wonderland). Let me give you one fun example. You (users & investors) are the Batman (super hero) in the elm street and attacked by Freddy Kruger. You can be Batman because its a dream anyway. And you fight in a Freddy dream (his play ground) shortly (too technical for you) So you cant win against Freddy. Because Freddy has always more to feed you with extra technical confusions or fancy creatings (hype) or unexpected ends. You can try to ask those (Freddy and other altcoin brothers) some thing like these if they are trustless really "What is their Multisig or how is it created?" "What is others really trying to do?" This is like asking if this a dream or real?, and Freddy Kruger and brothers join the party fast and make you regret to ask and kill the Batman quick. You know Freddy always wins in dream land. This is what's happening now. We really don't have to explain you more because this is not a dream that we sell. You can touch it use it and see it really works! As to 2, future may be problem of dealing with more promo & marketing & documentation that guarantee this is not a dream we sell and you no need to be Batman. Or we will have to continue the fight (the competition) as Jason versus Freddy and brothers in this dream land. I understand what you are saying about expertise, but you're missing what I'm saying about consensus and innovation. Sure there are many hypesters, but there are also other developers out there with skills. If what you are saying about your anon method is true, that will become evident in time. It took people a long time to understand how Bitcoin's code worked in the first place, but now its understood by many. The best tech will always win out, but if you don't allow others to look at it there can't be innovation and there can't be progress around what you've invented without your personal involvement. That is a centralized hierarchy even if it isn't written into the code. . . Or consider the fact that you want a focus on species preservation, that is a worthy, but narrow concern. What about for instance feeding the hungry? If a charity out there wants to develop its own currency for that purpose, how could they do so? You're telling me that no system will ever rival yours, and no one is allow to copy it ever. The "feed the hungry" project will just have to work with inferior tech I guess? That doesn't seem fair to me. And I understand your dream analogy also, but decentralized alone provides a trustless system. There is no Freddy Kruger in a decentralized network and there are plenty of coins out there offering decentralization. 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It would be awesome if you could buy and sell Mammothcoin from within the wallet. Using the different API's exchanges provide.
Orrrr anonymous chat like IRC kinda thing in the wallet Imagine having anonymous chat on an android wallet That would be ultimate. Anon chat and ability to purchase coins right from the wallet also anon. Also cool to have a Veripay exchanging type service that allows you to use Mamm anywhere they accept BTC seemlessly. |
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I also think an interest taking foundation could be smart. Such a small premine, the dev didn't have much bounty to work with and if he's bought, its coming out of pocket. A small randomly given interest into a wallet held by multiple users who poney up a fee to join the foundation - that sort of thing. Multiple passwords from all foundation members needed to release the collected bounty...It could also be synced to coin price. So while the price is still very low, more interest is generated, but as the price goes up, the foundation receives less coins per interest payment.
Just a thought, it'd be nice if we had some sort of foundation to support various needs.
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Dev, what's after when the website is finished and promotions started? Roadmap plz
Our website still under development. We look for currently a good promo partner, last one was not really good. We made last time twitter promos. If you know anyone or any suggestion welcome. Yea i get that, i mean more like tech wise whats the next step? Not to borrow too much from SUPER, but I think their Rich list idea coming soon is pretty great. If you stake a lot of coins 100000+ I think, and get them the hell out of Bittrex, you can earn an extra %50 from POS....The more coins taken out of the market the better. |
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we are working on the new site, some issues there but we will fix it soon and make a good surprise for you.
Best surprise would be release of the code. . .Help us to trust Mammoth Coin. We don't need to know who you are, but we need proof that your tech is legit.If the code was out and scrutinized, I for one will help by going to other threads of "anon" coins and tell them to come here instead, I'll make more videos, I'll email publications, I will do everything I can....But its really hard to promote this when I can't be sure that its real. If its proven, I'm going to put hard work into it - I'm sure a lot of people watching this would. @remistevens it's very legit & respected by authorities, it's best possible tech for anonymity currently we have in altcoin industry. It's something new. It's used at OpenBaazar and many other trustless products. Our design little different than OpenBazaar as concepts but it works and deliver performance. You can see it works, just try it. You can see every step actually happens and works. The problem is when we release the codes many other copy cats will occur. We have already enough hype, they try to sell their very trust based systems as trustless. For users like you have no chance to see the job here done unless you are really a good tech person. That's why we need do videos, promotions and websites. Thank you, your response is very much appreciated. I apologize if its simply my lack of technical knowledge, but I still don't understand. Isn't it possible that someone could write a code that allows the wallets to visually depict something fake? A trick. For instance the "guarantor" was really just the usual transaction verifier and didn't actually hold any funds in escrow...or maybe a central node that is invisible to the standard wallet? I'm very skeptical of a new technology that no one is allowed to rip open and scrutinize. Couldn't this just be smoke and mirrors? So my concerns are: 1) If the code isn't released how can we be sure of everything in it? 2) What happens if and when you die? The code is then lost completely forever? How can this currency have a future when its a guarantee one day it will not be possible to adjust/add to it? 1) You can read the whitepaper here http://www.mammothcoin.org/SuperSend_Trustless.pdf and for example run after each anonymous send special command. "getlastanontxinfo" (in help console). Trustless systems is not unknown thing but it requires really competent people to apply. It lists all processes or whats happening during the transfer. It is trust-less system you do not need to trust us, dev team or somewhat any central guarantor or mixer. System also does not trust anyone. In other anonymous coins you must trust dev team. Our system creates one multisig address out of nothing and you can find this in getlastanontxinfo and confirm in block explorer. If anything not ok, transfer automatically rejects everyone gets its money back. You can see how system works in schemes in whitepaper. 2) when i am or all dev team die, but if people still uses mammothcoin wallets, they can keep using trustless system as long as there are alive nodes. I cant just shut it down it. I can close my own trusltess QT. If you mean this. But people will provide still some alive wallets. Because they make money. We give %1 or min 0.25 MAMM rewards randomly in the network for each mixer wallet plays role in the anonymous transfer. So I have no control over mixers or guarantor wallets. This risk is currently exists in other anonymous solutions, actually they can do alot worse things with your anonymous transfers. You basically sending coins to dev team pocket and they may send it to other party or may not. They can keep master nodes (mixer wallets) open today but close tomorrow. Their master nodes may be hacked and they lose wallet coins like anyone can have. Openbazaar video explains this very goodly. Thanks so much, and please know that I'm not accusing you of trickery. I just want to know how we can know for sure that trickery is impossible in regards to your coin. When you rule something out, it helps people trust this system you've created. 1)The whitepaper and video excellently describe the theory behind the process, I understand it well, and the 'getlastanontxinfo' command certainly shows the processes in action. What I don't understand is IF the info listed by 'getlastanontxinfo' can be faked? If another team wanted to created a coin that looks like it does what your coin does, could they do that through trickery? Could they make a coin that lists processes that didn't actually happen?...Who knows maybe that would be even more difficult that writing an escrow that works, but is it possible? Again this is my lack of technical knowledge speaking. 2)I know we don't rely on you now and you can't change the system. I'm more concerned with unforeseen problems. Many coins have desperately needed a fork down the road because something happened in the system that made it unusable/unstable. If no one can provide a fork once you've died, unforeseen problems can't be repaired. Thanks again! |
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Copycats are publicity, great publicity. It proves your tech is worth copying. It proves its worth.
Every coin out there with a good new tech - its the first one to do it that usually holds the highest value (unless something goes wrong). This is what keeps bitcoin way above all else. It isn't a superior code, it was the first.
Let devs everywhere copy you and spread the good word.
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we are working on the new site, some issues there but we will fix it soon and make a good surprise for you.
Best surprise would be release of the code. . .Help us to trust Mammoth Coin. We don't need to know who you are, but we need proof that your tech is legit.If the code was out and scrutinized, I for one will help by going to other threads of "anon" coins and tell them to come here instead, I'll make more videos, I'll email publications, I will do everything I can....But its really hard to promote this when I can't be sure that its real. If its proven, I'm going to put hard work into it - I'm sure a lot of people watching this would. @remistevens it's very legit & respected by authorities, it's best possible tech for anonymity currently we have in altcoin industry. It's something new. It's used at OpenBaazar and many other trustless products. Our design little different than OpenBazaar as concepts but it works and deliver performance. You can see it works, just try it. You can see every step actually happens and works. The problem is when we release the codes many other copy cats will occur. We have already enough hype, they try to sell their very trust based systems as trustless. For users like you have no chance to see the job here done unless you are really a good tech person. That's why we need do videos, promotions and websites. Thank you, your response is very much appreciated. I apologize if its simply my lack of technical knowledge, but I still don't understand. Isn't it possible that someone could write a code that allows the wallets to visually depict something fake? A trick. For instance the "guarantor" was really just the usual transaction verifier and didn't actually hold any funds in escrow...or maybe a central node that is invisible to the standard wallet? I'm very skeptical of a new technology that no one is allowed to rip open and scrutinize. Couldn't this just be smoke and mirrors? So my concerns are: 1) If the code isn't released how can we be sure of everything in it? 2) What happens if and when you die? The code is then lost completely forever? How can this currency have a future when its a guarantee one day it will not be possible to adjust/add to it? |
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we are working on the new site, some issues there but we will fix it soon and make a good surprise for you.
Best surprise would be release of the code. . .Help us to trust Mammoth Coin. We don't need to know who you are, but we need proof that your tech is legit.If the code was out and scrutinized, I for one will help by going to other threads of "anon" coins and tell them to come here instead, I'll make more videos, I'll email publications, I will do everything I can....But its really hard to promote this when I can't be sure that its real. If its proven, I'm going to put hard work into it - I'm sure a lot of people watching this would. Don't think he has final say in that since it made together with super coin. I do think however the super coin dev also should think about releasing it Definitely, they could do a release on the same day again - like what they did with the phase 2 wallets. |
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we are working on the new site, some issues there but we will fix it soon and make a good surprise for you.
Best surprise would be release of the code. . .Help us to trust Mammoth Coin. We don't need to know who you are, but we need proof that your tech is legit.If the code was out and scrutinized, I for one will help by going to other threads of "anon" coins and tell them to come here instead, I'll make more videos, I'll email publications, I will do everything I can....But its really hard to promote this when I can't be sure that its real. If its proven, I'm going to put hard work into it - I'm sure a lot of people watching this would. |
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Great work Kuriso! Love the look and feel.
If I had one bit of feedback/suggestion, the dark sections are a bit too harsh in contrast from the white sections. I think it would look a bit more together if you used a light grey border around each of the dark screen sections. ... The top cover picture has this as you used a light grey link bar - it just helps the colours flow into the white sections a little easier.
Again great job!
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Mammoth is not a scam. Coin supply is as expected and stable. Launch was fair and equitable.
Its undernourished. Dev is far to quiet.
The only time in the last couple months we saw a spike in price was when the dev said he was open to a name change and new branding. Maybe the continued dropping will get him back onto that idea - or at least here in the thread.
Maybe he sold what he had and is hoping to buy more low....or.....dude could have a dozen coins on the go since he's anonymous and just doesn't have time. No one knows for sure, but this is all on him.
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wait, i don't know if thats true. Did super dev release his code?
If so then, I don't know what to think. Yea it must just be the lack of dev interest.
I have better things to do.
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looooooooool wow no offence finity but i did mention this ages ago, look a few weeks back, you were the mammothcoin advocate and now your out lol
Everybody's patience runs out at one point. Hit my wall yesterday, so good luck. I remain unflinchingly an advocate for random guarantor anon, the concept is brilliant.... Whether MAMM is the place for that, I didn't know weeks ago and I still don't know today. lool ive heard it all before, and in the end your patience will flinch lool but i guess i will have to see in a few more weeks right potential was there... however i was from when it was 3k sats... i should have been smart and sell all however i didnt and look at it now, it cant even get to 1k , good luck meh, I'd never invest in a crypto money I didn't expect to lose. I also never sell at a loss, but eventually I'll just stop paying attention to this. . . I think whats probably happened is we have a dev who put out a wallet that seems as though its using a random guarantor, but if you looked at the code you'd see that its just smoke and mirrors. Thats my guess anyways...They probably sold a few when it was briefly high and are now working out the next fake innovation. Its the only thing that makes sense. They have to know there would be big money in this if they proved it works as stated. There is no reason for them not to release the code and its the main thing holding this back. They must not have a code worth looking at. Meh, i dont know about the tech thing, it uses same stuff as super and they do have people over there. No one can know that for sure, Super hasn't released their code either. No proof, no tech. Super has just consistently been higher because it sounds like the super dev came up with supersend and mammoth dev was the assistant...But ultimately I don't think either of them actually have something at this point. . .They must know they need to prove their tech and it would be very simple to do so, yet they both keep the code to themselves and prefer to let their coins die. They either don't like money, or don't have the tech. |
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looooooooool wow no offence finity but i did mention this ages ago, look a few weeks back, you were the mammothcoin advocate and now your out lol
Everybody's patience runs out at one point. Hit my wall yesterday, so good luck. I remain unflinchingly an advocate for random guarantor anon, the concept is brilliant.... Whether MAMM is the place for that, I didn't know weeks ago and I still don't know today. lool ive heard it all before, and in the end your patience will flinch lool but i guess i will have to see in a few more weeks right potential was there... however i was from when it was 3k sats... i should have been smart and sell all however i didnt and look at it now, it cant even get to 1k , good luck meh, I'd never invest in a crypto money I didn't expect to lose. I also never sell at a loss, but eventually I'll just stop paying attention to this. . . I think whats probably happened is we have a dev who put out a wallet that seems as though its using a random guarantor, but if you looked at the code you'd see that its just smoke and mirrors. Thats my guess anyways...They probably sold a few when it was briefly high and are now working out the next fake innovation. Its the only thing that makes sense. They have to know there would be big money in this if they proved it works as stated. There is no reason for them not to release the code and its the main thing holding this back. They must not have a code worth looking at. |
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looooooooool wow no offence finity but i did mention this ages ago, look a few weeks back, you were the mammothcoin advocate and now your out lol
Everybody's patience runs out at one point. Hit my wall yesterday, so good luck. I remain unflinchingly an advocate for random guarantor anon, the concept is brilliant.... Whether MAMM is the place for that, I didn't know weeks ago and I still don't know today. |
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Maybe they don't like money, that could be it.
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We currently work with kusoni on restoration website, and we will start promotions.
All good news for sure. But I really think you should release the code too, just having the wallet out isn't enough and the price only went down since the release. . .This is a brilliant approach to anon you have. Aren't you worried another team will come out with a similar random guarantor escrow method that's open source and steal your rightful place? We'd all like to see success here, but I worry it will never happen without a code laid out for all to see. Someone will beat you to this unfortunately and will prove it openly...What do you think? Downward price is explainable though. The people holding expected pricerise after release, and since there wasn't people started dumping their coins. The reason prise didn't rise initially is because of lack of marketing, nobody is gonna know about a great coin if nobody advertises it. Sure that might explain the drop, but it doesn't explain why the price didn't rise in the first place. This thread is active enough that people looking to buy cryptos are seeing what happens here, but are not convinced to buy. It isn't explainable just through lack of marketing even though marketing is important and can bring success on its own. We don't have the resources or people to compete on just marketing, far too many better equipped teams are already doing that. . . We need to go after savvy cryto enthusiasts who are watching 50 diff coins waiting for new innovations. Those people aren't convinced by marketing alone and we need them to get this started. Releasing the code would let them scrutinize it and endorse it, that's the only way I see this coin going up significantly in value. I agree on releasing the source code, no point in keeping it for yourself somebody is gonna find out sooner or later. I do think however the dev should attract a "professional" to do the marketing for a certain bounty. If the pro is confident in his ability to market something he should be satisfied with accepting MAMM as payment. I'm even willing to pay extra if that person would deliver. Whether you like it or not, crypto does need solid marketing. Our small community just can't compete with the full teams doing marketing 24/7 for other coins. I agree, don't worry I'm pro marketing. But we're competing with teams that can pay with any currency and hire experts at their going rates. Marketing can't be the engine here, it has to be the tech. ... There needs to be proof, people need to be able to trust this. Both to entice investors, and to find professionals willing to work for MAMM as payment. Time is of the essence here with this too. Even if Supersend is the 1st, when someone else eventually develops the same method there will no longer be a way to prove it happened here first. At that point making deals for MAMM will be out of the question, the only professionals we'd be able to hire would be those who bill us in their preferred currency. Also we'd be forever trying to explain how it happened here first, even though we can't prove it. We're in a bad spot here without that code as proof. |
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We currently work with kusoni on restoration website, and we will start promotions.
All good news for sure. But I really think you should release the code too, just having the wallet out isn't enough and the price only went down since the release. . .This is a brilliant approach to anon you have. Aren't you worried another team will come out with a similar random guarantor escrow method that's open source and steal your rightful place? We'd all like to see success here, but I worry it will never happen without a code laid out for all to see. Someone will beat you to this unfortunately and will prove it openly...What do you think? Downward price is explainable though. The people holding expected pricerise after release, and since there wasn't people started dumping their coins. The reason prise didn't rise initially is because of lack of marketing, nobody is gonna know about a great coin if nobody advertises it. Sure that might explain the drop, but it doesn't explain why the price didn't rise in the first place. This thread is active enough that people looking to buy cryptos are seeing what happens here, but are not convinced to buy. It isn't explainable just through lack of marketing even though marketing is important and can bring success on its own. We don't have the resources or people to compete on just marketing, far too many better equipped teams are already doing that. . . We need to go after savvy cryto enthusiasts who are watching 50 diff coins waiting for new innovations. Those people aren't convinced by marketing alone and we need them to get this started. Releasing the code would let them scrutinize it and endorse it, that's the only way I see this coin going up significantly in value. |
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