i personally dont care who agrees or disagres with me.
i just wish people just spent a little time actually learning bitcoin and not which influencer to suck upto and treat as their messia..
people should not be relying on humand . bitcoin is code and its the code that should be paramount. code which has been weakened in recent years due to those sponsored to weaken bitcoin just to promote other networks as the salvation.


larry instead od f jumping into doomads bed based on his rhetoric of me.. actually articulate properly what you are agreeing with or not.. because you are not actually saying much apart from your are disagreeing with doomads insane warped and unbacked version of what DOOMAD thinks when he says "franky " not what i actually say

i never said doomad cant use lightning or segwit.. i just said he is stupid for using flawed lightning and over promising and snake oil promoting lightning.. and with all things considered over the last 6 years segwit has not lived up to its promises/expectations either

his rhetoric which he tries to say is mine.. that is just him being a devious idiot lying scumbag who cannot even comprehend history, nor read nor even check out facts

my post history is has been clear about my opinions for many years.. my opinions never have changed and can be backed up by code, blockdata and much more..
unlike doomad who is a snake oil salesman. jumping/sliding around so much he doesnt even know if he is coming or going. he just follows the tribal campfire stories of whatever sponsors are singing. even if the songs change over time

consensus is not about a persons choice to use lightning or segwit
its about rules of bitcoin. rules that should be followed. rules that should not be broke.

such as signatures being signatures, sats being sats. public keys being public keys
rather than just random nonsense data has has no aid or purpose or function related to the utility of moving sats from one owner to another.
bitcoin is a payment network for sats. not a junk data library.
and yes doomad also wants to break the sats rule too.. which breaks the scarcity economics and many things like the runout of halvings date and the amount of halvings and the amount of units available in the end. thats how little he cares about bitcoin. he wants everything about bitcoin broke.

bitcoin for many years actually counted every byte.. now it doesnt
bitcoin for many years actually knew each bytes purpose in a transaction and had a set of rules to ensure each byte met a need/purpose.. now it doesnt

doomad pretends he is all for unity and equality.. yet he loves segregation
he loves the 3 class system. where legacy is the premium class and he wants all bitcoiners to either become rich to afford to pay massive fees just to stay involved. or get lost and go to another network if they cannot afford to use bitcoin

and just days ago doomad switched sides and was temporarily siding that the ordinals scam was using an exploit and he didnt like it..

seems he recruited enough idiots to his ass kissery.. so is now back to ass kissing devs that want to break down bitcoin rules and not take responsibility to fix the things they changed

but hey as doomad says if you dont like that bitcoin rules are getting broken and softened and allowing exploits.. doomad only has one answer 'dont fix it, abandon it and use another network'

and yep for years he has been loving the idea of offboarding users to another network

if he wants a network that doesnt count every byte efficiently and accurately. thats his flaw
if he wants a network that doesnt validate a purpose/function for each byte.. thats his flaw too

however wanting a network where every byte matters and has purpose towards bitcoin. rather then junk. is what most people want. even if some devs have loosened the rules to let junk in and now doomad thinks that tightening the rules again is what he wants to call "activate the self-destruct sequence"

no its not self destruct. its actually called having rules and reason for a efficient monetary system not a meme junk text library

he loves censorship
he loves the 2017 event of blocks getting rejected simply for not flagging loyalty towards segwit.
he loves treating certain transaction formats differently. making legacy a 4x premium
he loves that if people dont pay enough fee (a fee more expensive than a cup of coffee) he wants that rejected too
he loves centralisation. he wants full nods to downgrade to fool nodes by pruning and centralising hte blockchain. he wants to kill off anyone not core. and he wants core to be an authoritarian without responsibility and without taking any community desires unless paid by a corporation.. seems doomad loves government policy/business model after all

the junk has caused more reasons for normal transactions to not get processed than any fix would.. yep the mempool bloat rejected thousands upon thousands of normal transactions leaving people waiting days weeks and in some cases months before trying again.. yep the junk done that.. and doomad just wants that junk to continue, while happy for normal peoples actual bitcoin transactions to become expensive, delays or just dropped from mempools

you do realise POOL MANAGERS take most the fee's not the asic owners(most pools share payments are the main reward not the fee element)

you do realise POOL MANAGERS can spend their own income in their own block templates(not zero confirm relay) where they give themselves a high fee(returning funds to themselves AT NO COST) but causing the crappy fee estimator of EVERYONE ELSE to be high

as for you saying if everyone else does not like it .. they should avoid asking for it to be fixed and instead use another network.. are you seriously that central point adoring that you want devs to be paid to break bitcoin by corporations that created altnets that you want them to tell devs what do do and not the decentralised userbase..
where you just want  everyone that wants a decentralised monetarian system to instead opt and move over to a crappy network that has middle men payment providers(routers)

seriously. you are reading the wrong hymn sheets and you are not thinking about whats best for bitcoin. but whats best for corporations/businesses.. which means you are the one that loves the "banking" model

he does not want freedoms.. he loves authoritarianism. he just tries to distract where the authoritarianism is by blaming anything else. and pointing in other directions to not let people talk about the real culprits/source of exploits/control

doomad pretends im controling the forum
how many people have i demanded their posts get deleted compared to doomad
how many people have i asked to be banned compared to doomad
how many people have i said should shut up(on a DISCUSSION forum) compared to doomad


doomad pretends im controlling the bitcoin community(it makes me laugh when he does this)
how many people have i told to use another network compared to doomad
how many people have i told to not ask devs to fix things compared to doomad
how many people have i told to just pay more rather than want things fixed/efficient/fair compared to doomad
how many dev groups has doomad called opposition becasue they are not following cores corporate plan

domad pretends im the cause of bitcoin rule breaks and cause of all the bugs/exploits/delays of progress

its obvious doomad is controlling
its obvious doomad wants the central point of failure(core) to reign supreme as central control rulers, without them taking responsibility for their actions(authoritarians)

he does not want freedoms.. he loves authoritarianism. he pretends to be against it because his motives loses his fans so he has to now and again pretend to be againt his own desires to recruit more again..
he just tries to distract where the authoritarianism is by blaming anything else. and pointing in other directions to not let people talk about the real culprits/source of exploits/control

if core devs changed the units of measure where instead of the true limit of
2,099,999,997,690,000 it became something like
209,999,999,769,000,000,000 just to match some broke networks unit measures

he would call that a bitcoin feature. he wont care that it can bug out in many ways like extending the end point of the last mining reward date. by changing units of 5000000000inits(binary measured) to no longer be 50btc causes calling satoshis own 2009 stash of 50btc per address then 0.00050btc. he wont care that it breaks scarcity or other economic rules. or value held on old utxo's
he will just be a core dev suck up and not want it prevented because it helps his other favoured network be compatible to bitcoin. becasue all he cares about is breaking bitcoin to influence people to move over to his prefered network

yep he is happy to break any bitcoin rule, loosen all verification policy, and have junk on bitcoin where it causes everyone to pay more. all because he does not care about bitcoin and only cares about a corporate dev group that support an altnet

he wants DEV FREEDOMS not user freedoms. he does not want a functional efficient bitcoin network. heck he has been for years telling people to prune the blockchain so that the amount of fullnodes are reduced, centralising the blockchain to less nodes(less decentralisation of the blockchain) less blockchain seeds able to provide initial block downloads and where less users are full nodes.. all to give more power to other nodes that stroke the egos of the crap that he adores

this is a bitcoin forum. people come here for real info not the fantasy platitudes of over promises and hope and dreams. there is no point lulling people to sleep telling them everything is perfect.. they dont need the promotion hype after already hearing the word bitcoin. they are already on this forum because they heard the hype. now they want the real knitty gritty..

so here goes. most newbies buy their first btc on a CEX or DEX(with escrow lock) and when seeing a high fee, they dont withdraw from cex/escrow. they instead wait it out using cex/escrow as a bank(custodian)

and guess what. those cex/escrows can steal, lose the coins too, yep here in the UK the amount of cases of peoples banks being raided and people losing their value is insignificant % but the amount of CEX custody coins being raided is higher.

all im saying is we really need to kicks some dev ass to actually evolve bitcoin becasue it has stagnated in normal people utility for years. the only main updates it has benefits corporations usage of subnetworks they want to advertise. while not really doing any benefit for the normal individual

oh again the idiot wants to be ignorant

the regulations literally are telling you that they are more interested in mixer used funds..

the solution is to do what i said several posts ago.
think of a new system not advertised/promoted or niched as only offering mixing as a service. but instead something that acts like something else. but the side effect is it breaks the taint.

get it yet

here ill make it real clear
imagine this scenario.. it involves the same crunched up smelly dirty $100 bank note. going into a service. and the same $99 coming out in different denominations of different bank notes and coins.(same end result)

A. mixer.
B. buying chewing gum from a retailer

did you know that the $100 and $99change from scenario A is being then scrutinised for where the $100 came from and where the $99 ends up
where as B is just another random transaction that no business or regulator sniffs at twice. and just gets lost in thought amungst the monotony of all other random transactions

scenario B is not registered nor required to register, nor deemed illegal for not registering as a money transmitter business. it does not do KYC nor appear on any regulation policy to scrutinise its customers identity or purpose or source or destination of deposits/withdrawals. YET you get the same result as A of different taint/denominations out as what went in



stop advertising something that is listed by regulators to watch A
instead get the same end result you want, but via something else that looks feels like B but does the same end result as A. without being what regulations are highlighting.

and yet at this same precise moment..

imagine it this way, we all know fiat banks have problems. but in the UK its free and fast to wire transfer.
then being told bitcoin is better.
but then when people try it.. they end up not being able to pre guess a transaction fee, but be told the fee at the time of use, which when finding out its upto £50 they realise thats 10x worse then using western union, 200x worse then using paypal

then when they want to discuss it they are presented with idiots saying "no, nothing should be done it might die out in a few months. so try this other network instead.. or wait until the jupiter is aligned in the astro plains of capricorn to transact cheaply"

sorry but that also sounds like a bad proposition, promotional plan

try and read a regulation once in a while to realise what your getting into
they do actually treat currencies and protocols aswell as businesses

aswell as mixers(not only businesses that use mixers, but mixers themselves) as something to red flag but also AEC
anonymity enhanced currency

yes LN is a red flag monero is a red flag.

...
so lets summarise this entire topic
you can either ass kiss the mad hatter clan of idiots that just kiss ass whomever will sponsor them to advertise crap services.. who never do research.. but want to pretend mixers will hide you better  and there is nothing law can do to find you...

or
you can actually research for instance regulations and see that when regulations LITERALLY SPELL IT OUT FOR PEOPLE that if you use a mixer, tumbler, aec you will be red flagged and monitored, scrutinised more closely

so when regulations tell you that using a mixer gets you scrutinised more closely.. guess what.. mixers are not doing a good job to hide you. instead they are passing you a red flag to wave in the air to be spotted easier

its simple. all opcodes/sigop codes should come with requirements, format and expectations. that way things can actually be verified to be validated rather than tagged as "is valid" without verification checks
having it where after block 7XXXXX any opcode/sigops that has no format/requirements will have that tx rejected by core 2X.x+ where economic nodes and pools do another NYA.. devs loved that plan last time. so they cant now pretend its impossible or unable or not capable of doing. they already set that precedent

if devs want to propose a new opcode in the future. then they should do it the proper way. propose it, code it. get people to adopt it. and when safe to run due to adoption level THEN it activates, where by its given time for the network to be ready to actually verify and validate blockdata.

all this weakening consensus to not need a consensus activation is what gets these exploits to occur. it makes devs lives easier but when they are the ones in control of a near trillion dollar economy they need to have a tough life where they are responsible for what happens within it

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and again for those shouting UAHF
it should be emphasised as a EN MPA (Economic Node(merchants/services)) (Mining Pool Assisted) becasue regular normal users dont have the same power as the services/miners.

if users reject blocks, not much happens it just affects the user who is no longer part of the network.. stuck at a certain old height.. however if merchants rejects blocks it affects their customers which includes miners and users being their customers. thus it pressures mining pools to toe the line and users to toe the line.

so now you know where the power lies. core devs then merchants followed by pols, followed by users. in that order

strange thing is satoshi invented a permissioned network:
a. the handshape protocol between peers
b. agreeing to share data
c. when sending a transaction it has to be done by the permissioned owner of value
d. it had to have a fixed format.
e. length of proof was required
f. he started with a 0.01 fee which all tx with less was rejected
g. later the called it "dust" where they rejected amounts below
h. it does not allow double spends
i. his code did not allow more then 50btc per block reward subsidy, rejecting blocks that tried
j.he did not allow 4mb of monkey pics in a block, they got rejected

decentralised:
a. many devs in satoshis day were not using one repo. they copied code into their own and compiled their own client.
b. there was no centralised github, reference client or roadmap
c. he didnt even hire/rank/sponsor or contract people to be his team maintaining the rules

censorship resistance
a. bitcoin had strict rules where every byte was accounted for where each byte had a purpose. if a tx contained anything not set for the purpose of proving value transfer of sats. it was rejected
b.transactions trying to move more then they are owed rejected
c. blocks not fitting the rules rejected,
d. transactions paying to little rejected
e. blocks with hash solves not fitting difficulty requirement rejected

i can go on but i just said a few examples of each

bitcoin is not permissionless.. its consensus..
bitcoin is not censorship resistant.. its has(had) rules..
bitcoin is not as decentralised.. due to CORE central point of failure (they named if that for a reason)

blackhat
your girlfriends narrative does not even align with blockdata or archived/active code.
pretending the memes are standard


heck even some of the devs are discussing things and not all are complying to the corporate roadmap mantra you promote

maybe instead of laying inbed with doomad, kissing ass..  you instead realise that doomad is the one with foolish idea's

if you think the only option is to be subserviant to 6 core maintainers or f**k off.. you really have been fooled into authoritarianism.
go on say it

"if you dont like iraq emigrate".. thats the only option you think people should have. rather than want something better

plus via this very topic and many like it. its not just me. even though you ignore everyone thus your view of people is limited there are thousands of people peed off with the exploit and want something done..

TRY TO READ. THEN LEARN. THEN READ AGAIN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU LEARN

there is more then one pool
if 90% of one pool stopped. then that pool will make >90% less blocks and >90% less rewards
(EG lets say 90% of foundry is in america)
other pools then make more frequent blocks due to less competition. so their block count and rewards go up

however the 10% that want to continue will be left on a dying pool which make >90% less blocks so their rewards are less. if any. yep if you have a small pool your chance/luck decreases exponentially too. its not a fair %
 
this will mean that the first pool only gets rare blocks or dies
however 10% moving to another pool means a boost in blocks for that other pool but now they have to share with an extra 10%

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also governments dont need to ban mining they just need to make power companies apply a premium electric tarrif, and then the governments then tax it at 30% ontop and just price people out of wanting to mine in certain countries

EG
mining is not banned in japan or hawaii. but due to electric costs. making it cost ~$120k just to break even per btc mined. no one wants to mine in japan/hawaii

doomad you are the one that does not know the difference between individual and collective

funny part is you are the one also telling people what to do. telling them to not propose a fix. telling people to go use another network

i said many times now consensus is the consent OF THE MASSES(collective)
its funny how now your saying it but pretending you came up with it

however when you were trying to discuss your version of consensus you reply about your individual ability to go run off and use lightning

grow up

consensus is not about your ability to go play with monero, or deposit your darknet scam money into a mixer
consensus is about agreeing/consenting to the rules. where those rules have become soft, which is bad..
.. as you can see by this junk now appearing

rules which WERE stronger.. rules which DID REQUIRE people to stick to certain formatting REQUIREMENTS
where new formats USED TO REQUIRE mass consent(consensus) activation

those have been SOFTENED. where now even the collective cant stop it.. and you dont want them to even if they could
you know only the core devs can merge in a fix. and you dont want them to do it nor do you want people to ask them to

will you try and learn.. just once

the upto 4mb of junk memes has never been standard or part of bitcoins proposition. there were limits and there were checks and purpose for every byte in a transaction.. its called formatting conditions of a transaction that people needed to abide by
that formatting condition.. people needed to agree to put transaction in to a certain format to be ACCEPTED as a valid transaction ALLOWED to be in a block..  but those rules have been softened allowing more junk in now

yep to be accepted as a valid transaction transactions used to be required to contain only certain things.
there were even rules on length of signature/witness lengths.

if you cant understand that there were rules where things that did not fit the rules were rejected then you have no clue about anything

if you think everything was allowed and nothing was rejected you again have no clue

all you do know is a script someone told you where you want junk in the blockchain but you want genuine users off the blockchain

why burn coins...
taproot is not a new coin. its the same coin but just the transaction format form of proof of its transfer is changed.
by burning coins in taproot format of the transaction you are not breaking taproot. you are just burning normal coins

your better off moving coins to legacy thus removing them from taproot utxo
but the stupid thing is if you are asking to receive coins in taproot where you dont want taproot. why ask for funds in taproot in the first place. just ask for people to pay you in a legacy address and avoid taproot altogether

its like asking to burn mastercard money. not realising the money is still dollars whether its on paypal, visa or mastercard. if you dont like mastercard. just dont use it

all you end up doing is making alot of dead utxo of taproot stay in the utxo set. they dont get burned. they just get embalmed and necro'd (immortalised) and thrown in a casket with no opening

he really has no clue about consent at all

a. no one can move my value without my permission. because it need my signature.. my signed consent
b. no one can put a LN onion payment into the bitcoin blockchain. nor a litecoin transaction into bitcoins blockchain as a valid bitcoin payment.. understand how onion payments and litecoin transactions dont meet the format or test of a bitcoin transaction
c. no one can just change the block subsidy from 6.25 to 200btc without full network agreement.. which has been agreed and given permission to only change only every 210k blocks and agreed that it will only change by halving

do you understand what rules are and do and the whole mechanisms of bitcoin, which is meant to follow rules..
yes the rules got softened but you have no clue what rules or permission or consent is. you just like that rules got relaxed, removed, bypassed and now you want to pretend thats how it always was

i know you love the idea that devs no longer need a consensus activation to change things. but thats a new ability that they manufactured over the years using a blackmailed mandated change and then further changes after that.. . its not what had always existed.

oh but it is funny how you loved that they rejected blocks not signalling for the change.. which was censorship by the way.. yep you love censorship. you pretend you dont becasue you are losing fans by your old habits. but your new pretence of pretending to be anti-censorship is the lie. and many see that

you want to pretend there never was any rules and consent was never needed and anyone can do anything. pfft. say what you like but bitcoin has hard data and code and a archive of both that show your version of events is the lie

LEARN BITCOIN.. not just the parts your puppet masters want you to know. their hand up your ass is not there to comfort you. its there to make you say whatever they want you to say to promote their schemes of other crap, which you happily advertise for them.

stop believing the fake market cap and volume numbers

if i shuffled a bunch of bank notes from my own left hand to my own right hand. i can shw that $1m passed between my hands even if there are only $1000 in total

the MEME MARKET IS FAKE. its the creators selling to themselves to fix/rig/fake a price hoping idiots later on buy from them ..

doomad says permission is not required
dang only a few months and he again forgets what consent is

id say give it 2 months and he will go full CSW wanting transactions to not even require permission via signatures. where anyone can move other peoples value into each others transactions without that person even being online

doomad you want to pretend that there was never any consensus activations that had a majority threshold for activation of certain things
yes its NOW softened and junk can be put in without consent. but thats not how things were done.
seems you forget anything beyond a few months ago

i know you LOVE that consensus has been softened and you dont want consensus hardened again. and you want all people who want bitcoin rules to be fixed and enforced again to run over to other networks.. yes we all know you want everyone to move away from bitcoin. we know you very well.

stop pretending you know more then the last script you read, because history, memory and real hard data is not your strong point.

again we know you ant to get people off the network we know you dont want bitcoin rules to be enforced, we know you idolise devs that want to break down the rules and let junk in. we know you dont want the junk to stop.
now get this hint

you are not a bitcoiner. you admit to such by your motives any motivations.. however bitcoiners who actually do care do want things fixed

doomad pretends to be anti-censorship but is always telling people to not do research. not talk. and disapear. he wants peoples posts deleted and people banned.
oh he also doesnt want people transacting below certain value and wants the blockchain pruned


how about actually think about real fixes EG each byte have true meaning and reason for being in a transaction. where each byte is counted and actually checked for validity. non of this cludgy bypass crap

but no idiots like doomad want to soften the rules, make nodes not validate all transactions and prune them off just as quickly so that the blockchain is a cluster-f**k of data that is not complete or correct in all full nodes

all because he wants bitcoin to get ruined from many points of attack, lack of utility and expense.. all so he can advertise his other networks he adores so much he prefers people to use instead

that mempool dead zone around april 22nd just goes to show:
1. this spam is orchestrated by just a small group that collude and were told to stop all at once
2. normal users stopped transacting whilst the spam was happening near completely, which is why when the spam stopped there was a dead zone because no one was really doing much normal stuff to make mempool drop to near zero

i do laugh at the alt-net promoters saying "dont worry it will die down"

imagine if fiat pulled this crap
"for next 4+ months it will cost you upto $70 to do a ATM/bank account withdrawal"
"dont do wire transfers for 1 week-4 months due to delays"
"sorry we cannot offer wire transfers in 10 minutes, please try again on a saturday, when the sun is at the horizon and jupiter is in the astro planes of virgo"
"we promise to offer you cheap paypal system to replace wire transfers, please wait and be patient for 7 years+ for us to try and get it to work for all"
"our paypal side hustle service only has a 100% payment success rates for payments under $50, if you would like to move $1k+ please be aware you may have to close your account and rebalance another account with another paypal partner"
"its been 7 years we wont fix the wire transfer scaling, nor current issues impeading normal flows, please be patient and try paypals limited function system until we can bother "
"we are sorry you are having issues with wire and paypal, this is a recorded message we do not respond to, please hang up and try again "

i mentioned 3 breeds of bitcoiners
investors throw more then small amounts in one go..accumulators put in small amounts regularly..

so the accumulator people will be hit by fee's each week/month
imagine it like throwing in $400 a month where fees were $40.. 10% fee is rediculous
now imagine third world countries like the unbanked. wher $40 is their entire months wage where they only want to put in $10 .. but fee's are $40

where as investors(not only whales) will have more coin but even if a whale, they will not want to keep withdrawing and depositing daily so end up using exchanges as custodians to keep profits

years ago i used to day trade a non-insignificant amount so i would withdrawal at night and deposit again the next day. but if fee's were this high then. i would not even bother depositing.
right now im just hoarding. i dont move my main stash for years. but my spending stash. well im giving that a rest too.. which is kind of a ridiculous thing to be doing on what was promised to be a payment system. and not im not going to shift value over to another network. i just find it stupid that we should put up with this crap when CODE can be wrote to make the system better. because thats what code can and should do. not the opposite