Ca t'irait, remise en main propre sur région parisienne dans un lieu public ?
Désolé mais je n’ai pas le temps de me déplacer, la machine est neuve même pas déballé, j’en veux 3500€.
Cette réponse implique que tu l'expédies et ne donne pas plus de précisions sur l'échange. Tout ce que tu as dit est : En privé  Donc oui, naturellement j'avertis contre les pratiques de certains sur ce forum. Ton compte a été crée il y'a 2 mois et n'a pas de réputation ou quoi que ce soit. A aucun moment, je n'ai émis une accusation ou jugement envers toi et ton offre. Je préconise juste l'utilisation d'un tiers de confiance lorsqu'on fait des affaires sur ce forum. A moins de traiter en face à face, ce qui a l'air d'être ce que tu demandes. Avoue que ça limite les risques ! personnellement moi je me déplace lorsque j’achète des produits dans la mesure du possible, donc la personne esseyra de faire pareil, il est normal de contrôler la véracité de vendeur comme de l’acheteur. Si quelqu’un de ma région veux se porter garant et venir voir mon matériel je suis d’accord.
Entendu. Merci des informations. Peut tu préciser d'ailleurs davantage les modalités ? Vers quel coin est-ce qu'il faut venir pour chercher le mineur ? Genre Bordeaux, Lille, Strasbourg ..? Est-ce qu'on peut payer les 3500€ en bitcoin ? Sinon, pour ceux qui se posent la question : Les escrows sur le forum sont des utilisateurs de confiance sur le forum. Ils proposent ce service moyennant une petite commission en général. L'acheteur envoie les bitcoin à l'escrow, celui ci confirme le paiement au vendeur puis le vendeur peut envoyer l'objet à l'acheteur. Une fois que l'acheteur a reçu ce qu'il a acheté, il en informe l'escrow qui envoie donc le paiement au vendeur. Il y a une liste à jour ici : Recommended bitcointalk escrow servicesTrade safe !  |
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What happens if the customer says they didn't get it or it was not what they thought it was or something to that effect? In other words, how do I keep protected from them trying to scam by not acknowledging receiving the item? That's why I was wondering if the item goes to you first, then to them. I am trying to get lined up to sell Antminer S9 units and related parts. They are so expensive right now for on hand units. I think there are as many scammers selling as there are scammers buying.
I have had a friend sell the unit with a PSU - and clarified that it did not come with a power cord, but the customer was all upset that it did not come with a power cord which caused them lost earnings, etc... but refused to send the item back for a refund and still lodged a complaint with my friends selling platform (dhgate.com). Scammers can always find a way to argue some irrational point - or even just uneducated customers.
I'm just interested in how things of this nature are handled- the safer for everyone the better. These are large ticket items - and I want smooth, easy, and protected sells - which in turn should make the buyers happy.
Thanks!
Well, in this case an investigation is opened. In case of a dispute, both parties supply elements to help me decide what to do with the coins. We can also put another chain in place : you can send the miner to me so I reship to the buyer. When I receive the hardware, I send you the BTC and resend the parcel to the buyer. Tracked & insured if buyer wants it that way. If you think these terms are acceptable, you can conduct business in such a way. We can try with one item first, then you'll see. In this case, to do physical escrow, I will ask you for a fee. I want to help you make your business easier. Yes, there are many scammers, and associate ourselves to do business is a neat idea. |
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Hello yogg!
I am trying to start a small business selling miners and related equipment. I am interested in whether or not you would provide escrow service for sales to my customers. I am new in digital currency business, and on this forum. I will be low volume for a while as I try to build up capital to get larger, but probably one or two miners per month right now - if that.
Also, I have never used an escrow service before - but understand the need for someone with little history to go on like myself - but also, I must be careful to not be scammed as well. The question here, is how exactly does this work? I assume my customer would send you BTC, then when I know you have BTC, then I send you or them the items. Once you or them get the items, then you release the BTC to me? Or other?
Also, when doing this - does this help increase my own trust score - so if after doing this for some transactions - will I be getting a better trust score so that in the longer term I may not need to do escrow as my trust score will be satisfactory to customers?
I don't even mind paying you some fee to do this. I see others who charge a small fee.
Anyway, please help me understand the logistics and if you would be interested.
Thanks!
Hi Ameador1, Yes, I believe I can help you. You got the concept of escrow right : your customer send the funds to one of my escrow addresses (signed by my primary address starting with 1yogg (as in the 1st post of this thread)). Then I confirm the payment to you so you can send the hardware to the buyer. When the buyer confirms the reception of the items he ordered, I release the payment to you. Simple. It certainly helps to increase your trust and the legitimacy towards your business, since it shows that you are not interested into getting some coins fast and run away to never be seen again. The trust score is based off the Positive feedbacks you receive from other members of the board. In the long term if you are trusted enough, yes you could trade without a need for an escrow but that means people sending the coins to you before you ship : you understand this will happen only if you are very trusted. There is no exception for anyone and I will not charge a fee. However, I do appreciate tips very much. If you have any question, feel free to ask ! Regards, yogg |
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Désolé mais je n’ai pas le temps de me déplacer, la machine est neuve même pas déballé, j’en veux 3500€.
Et je suppose qu'il faut t'envoyer les 3500€ avant sans voir l'ombre du L3 ? Gaffe aux arnaques ! Utilisez un escrow (tiers de confiance) sur le forum pour vous protéger ! |
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4 ltc seems awfully low for such a cute mini-cow. What is the catch? Where is mini-cow located? How you ship?
I will ship overnight from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 Lesbian Cow, I feel your enthusiasm, and don't want to shatter your dreams, but keep in mind this might be a straight mini-moo.  And you won't be able to sleep if it goes up a minaret in the middle of the night to call for prayers. (I assume it's Muslim since it comes from Saudi Arabia) bitpop how much for the two kittens in a bulk ?  |
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How much for the one that looks like a cow?
4 ltc Poor kitty.  |
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I'll bid 4544 plus a cat 🐱
Are you interested in Litecoin sir ? I want the cat |
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The masternodes will require a swap into a new coin which we will all need to pretend is the original NKA or be excluded. Then we’ll need to trust third parties and hope they don’t screw us, either the exchange, a transfer bot as well as the dev holding all the coins during the swap could totally fuck us over, or have a problem, or get hacked, or all of the above (which has been my experience watching crypto since day 1). IT’S A TERRIBLE IDEA UNLESS ITS A HARD FORK WITH NO TRUST REQUIRED!!!
What are you talking about ? You know that there is a "state" of incakoin, updated very frequently. That is called a blockchain. If you look at a block at some point, you will see the entire repartition of coins among addresses. So even in the worst scenario, if a member of the dev team decides to steal all the coins during the swap, he'll be excluded and we can just restart. The point would be to have the same repartition than at a certain block. If people holding all the cards decide to screw us all, they could hold all the existing coins, still be on the chart, and the only hit they fear is some people complaining.
Do you understand that means to chop off the branch we are all sitting on and working for during 4+ years ? If that happens, do you think there will be the according orders on the exchanges to allow a single person to dump over 11,000,000,000 incakoins ? Really ? I hold a large percentage of the network due to all of my investment and effort aiding this project. There is no way to sell them, I'm trapped with this mess.
If there is no way to sell them so you cannot get the BTC out, how can a person who stole from the swap sell them, then ? Unfortunately, Yobit stole all coins on their exchange for 2 years now, and cryptopia does not confirm my deposits now, so I'm even locked out from withdrawing $50 for what is now more than 10 BTC investment + all of my time and effort of 4 plus years
Yes, yobit is a scam and cryptopia has an issue with it's NKA wallet. We've contacted them to fix it. There are as well other exchangers whose wallet runs fine. if any of you have half a brain you would be too!
^^^^^ Thank you for this, how lucky I am I remember how to write ! Please, let the grown up work. |
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Je souhaite vendre mon antminer L3+ avec alim batch décembre donc neuf, ou échange contre S9 + argent de ma part.
Tu souhaites le vendre pour combien ? Ca t'irait, remise en main propre sur région parisienne dans un lieu public ? |
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0.013
Winning bid so far by dozerz |
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Xprim shoul have made more clear it was buyer funded.
It was on the coins picture in OP. Your argument is invalid. You can't read and blame others for your mistakes. Now he still has those coins to sell, when they should have been sold if it wasn't for you. |
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Someone is mad lol.
I'm not mad. It's just that you are a liar and that your word (as well as your bids) should be considered for what they are : a lie. I've not honored one bid in a poorly conducted auction. Sue me. Then, what is the difference between this auction and Xprim777's one ? You will end up deciding this one is also "poorly" conducted and declare for yourself that you are not obliged to stick to your bid : your word has no value.I don't want to sue anyone. Just pointing out facts. |
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Someone is mad lol.
I'm not mad. It's just that you are a liar and your word (as well as your bids) should be considered for what they are : a lie. Hhampuz and Xprim777 put effort into auctions. And you somehow believe you have the right to not honor your word. By playing games on us and making false claims. Where do you think you are ? Kindergarten ? This is a business board. |
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I would say donate the winnings to a charity. Entering a charity raffle with pennies (not even $2 lol) and then pocketing the profits because you don't want the stuff? lol?
Keep your judgements for yourself, "person who donated not even $5 to the raffle". (I can be judgmental as well). You can bid 0.06 BTC on a Satori roll, but you're giving $5 to charities. Oh, sorry, $10, there were 2 transactions. Wow, thank you my good lord ! EDIT : Oh, sorry, I forgot about the fee you put to your donation transactions so you can participate in the raffle. https://blockchain.info/tx/1c9a676e7d494686c7d84fa54c3e68e3681e7a02fb68751264dad349fed06a0ahttps://blockchain.info/tx/f7a80e3c66b2d295f524b5d7ab64ea2f06491ec1a549760b9a7605bbd7f6a41244.248 sat/B - Yeah, nice way to never have that transaction confirmed, so it will drop from mempools and you can spend that again as if you never sent anything. Now what does that makes you ? You're stealing money from charities ? Hmmm not nice. So yeah, a $2 donation is even better than what you "donated". Still "loling" at "not even $2" ? He won the 1st prize, it's his to do whatever he wants, he can trash it if he likes too. Mind your own business.You mess with my buddies, you're a liar (how is that you risked 0.2 BTC+ to me ?? check the feedback you left me). You are undermining the auctions here, they do run smoothly as long as you keep your nose out of them !As fas as I'm concerned, I believe you should be banned from entering auctions here since you always end up winning and never honoring your bids.So far, you're banned from Lesbian Cow's events, and it goes without saying it's the same for my events as well. |
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This is so cheap compared to eBay! .061 BTC  Yeah, eBay prices are insane man! I'm out  Is a bid from a Brand new account created right now with the only purpose to bid on this auction acceptable ? Being aware of Writing123 untrustworthy behavior, I strongly believe he is the one who created this account just to outbid himself.  Just my opinion. Anyway, I am curious to see if "SatoriKing" will honor his bid... |
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Be safe, and always use escrow in this kind of transactions. |
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Dragonfly @ 0.005 Do they come with termite repellent product ? (would be a shame to get this coin "eaten" to find only the holo ) |
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Hey aTriz, I do not have any past projects but French is my native and usual language. I can give that a try, if that suits you. I promise a quality translation. I understand if the fact that I have no past projects to show de facto eliminates me from participating, no problem ! Happy new year ! Cheers, yogg BitcoinTalk Username: yogg BitcoinTalk Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827Telegram Username: @yogg1 Past Projects: None Language: French ETH Address: 0x675F5Edf3533895673C1EA4C37dB1aF0B0b9b36a |
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