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321  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Vale a pena ter um Satoshi? on: March 14, 2024, 02:07:32 PM
Caraca. Tava sentindo falta dessa clássica treta

TryNinja vs bitmover

Entendi melhor a analogia Ninja mas ainda assim uma coisa é pensar em trades alavancados no 50x que é bem mais cassino do que gente que alavanca 3x pra evitar colocar todo o capital na exchange ou pra potencializar um long nessa bull run absurda.



Bitmover

Na verdade pouquissimas memecoin se baseiam no btc
Talvez só a doge e mais uma meia duzia (existem milhares)
A maioria são tokens na eth e na solana

Detalhes
322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: March 14, 2024, 01:43:50 PM
Depends on what is the game you decide to play
And regardless of that there’s a component in gambling that few consider which is bankroll management, you need skill for doing that and emotional control to avoid blowing up
323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports that you don’t watch but you keep placing bets on: March 14, 2024, 01:33:32 PM
I tried some bets on soccer and its fun even without watching the games
But for other sports I think you have to know a little bit about it so it makes not a lot of sense for me to bet on it using only the stats

Interesting to read other answers here to check different opinions
324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling still pays regardless of our losses on: March 14, 2024, 01:10:21 PM
It's true that gambling isn't a guaranteed way to make money and that the casino always have an edge, but this doesn't mean that people are still not benefiting from gambling, gambling still pays, people are still winning everyday in gambling. I believe what makes people to lose more often in gambling is because of greed and wanting to always win big. Different people have different techniques which they employ in their gambling. Always Chasing the big bag is what always make people lose often, I'm speaking from personal experience. I observe that whenever I'm always chasing the big bag, I always lose and barely win, but when I go little by little, going after little odds, I see myself gradually accumulating and staking up a good amount of money.

That greed manifest when you feel like you can make more while you already got something decent,  instead of stopping and enjoying the amount that you win,,  you'll try to put more and will suffer after, you have  to control  your emotions as it's your key to make some decent benefits,  just like you said different people have different perspectives, some may have that wise understanding about gambling while others are being polluted by wrong conceptions, gambling is a business you need to make sure that you fully understand that the chance of winning is not the same against the house.

Taking a break after a big win is totally understandable but how many can take a break after a small win and call it a day? These are rare!
Usually people will keep on it and end up delivering back to the market the profits they made with a lot of sweat

It is what it is
325  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Vale a pena ter um Satoshi? on: March 14, 2024, 12:52:10 PM
Pela primeira vez desde que me lembro discordo do @TryNinja

A analogia do jogo do tigrinho não funciona bem para mim pois você não pode treinar e estudar para ter mais sorte, mas pode se tornar um bom trader estudando se tiver essa pretensão.

Sobre a pergunta do OP, se vale a pena comprar um satoshi, sempre me lembro da questão do quanto arriscar.

Em teoria a dificuldade de fazer 10% com 100 reais em com 1 milhão é a mesma ( será um pouco menos eficiente investir muito dinheiro, vc pode ter mais dificuldade de entrar e sair de posições, etc mas vamos deixar isso de lado por enquanto)

Se você compra 1 satoshi hoje (0,0027 centavos) e o btc multiplica por 100 (improvável) isso nao mudou sua vida.
Se você comprar 10 mil e fizer um 100x, por outro lado, é uma grande mudança.

Então isso é uma das coisas para considerar.

No mais continua valendo a máxima de não se expor ao risco da ruína e não investir mais do que pode perder
326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: March 13, 2024, 04:38:23 PM
It looks like 2/3s of people wouldn’t be open to letting Artificial Intelligence select their bets.  I can understand why as people (especially sports bettors) would like to have their destiny in their own hands. I think once AI does start making gambling predictions and people can see the outcomes, maybe things will change.

I think there's something about the thrill too, about being right on a position you decided to take, more than only making money
there are several different ways to make money you don't have to bet to do it, so I think sports bettors seek something else too, something about looking at a future possibility and seeing its confirmation
327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: March 13, 2024, 04:24:47 PM

The first step in actually coming back from an addiction is to realize that the gambler is to blame for their own actions. Not anyone else.

People are quick to blame others, but they rarely take responsibility of their actions when they lose.
By blaming yourself for wrong steps due to your careless actions in carrying out gambling activities and often experiencing losses, that is normal and natural, but if we gamblers blame other people for the losses we experience, that is a big mistake. . . because defeat in gambling is determined by the dealer or system, not other gamblers.
Therefore, it is a good idea for us to introspect ourselves on what we have done and immediately improve it.

I agree that gambling is a game of luck and depends on your own personal judgment and experience no one should be blamed here at all. If we ourselves do not gamble no one can force us to gamble. Rightly said it is the result of our actions but there are many who don't want to accept it. If you can put the blame on others you feel better. Gamblers initially denied it. But when it becomes a real problem they stop trying to deny it. So acknowledging the problem is very important.

I think that taking responsibility for what we do should be the standard but its not really what we see around the world
most people want to blame things that are outside them for the situations
not once, or twice
but every time.
328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: March 13, 2024, 04:13:39 PM
many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"
addiction is not a condition you would normally want to find yourself in. I know it's easy to talk about addict as individuals that are inferior to us based on the kind of situation they've gotten into but the reality is that anyone can become addicted into gambling without his knowledge. We all are gamblers who basically do it for fun and for the joy of the game and one of the reason why some of us can comfortably gamble responsibly is because we have a sustainable source of income and taking a portion of it into gambling occasionally isn't a big deal for us but when you don't have a good source of income and your wins in gambling becomes your trusted source of income, addiction will make more sense to you and you will instantly understand the reason behind the increasing number of gambling addicts.

it's easy to talk but the truth is that we don't really know how it'd be to be in that situation
it's easy to say: control yourself, don't fall for x y or z, but truth is that we don't really know how our response would be in a given situation if we didn't go through that situation

one thing to remember is that there's no shame in seeking help if we need it.
329  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Seu palpite de preço após o halving pode valer até 0.0015 BTC on: March 13, 2024, 04:03:08 PM
bom senhoras e senhores, sinto dizer que toda a competição é inútil pq agora estou com a bola de cristal
é o que é
cease and desist
adiós
tá pra mim:

Code:
Qual o preço do Bitcoin em dólares ao alcançarmos o bloco 740000?

77.088,69 dólares

Code:
Ao alcançarmos o bloco 741008, o preço do Bitcoin terá aumentado ou diminuido em relação ao halving?

aumentado

Code:
Entre 0 a 0.0005 BTC, quanto você está disposto à apostar do prêmio inicial pelo acerto da segunda pergunta?

0,00025

já quis mandar agora pq pra quem prevê o futuro com precisão 5 dias a mais ou a menos não fazem diferença

abraço grande e salve Satoshi

Edit final: mudei de diminuido para aumentado e esse é meu palpite final
330  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Milei - Pacotão de medidas liberais on: March 13, 2024, 12:48:42 PM
A inflação na Argentina continua caindo desde a ascensão do milei.

https://www.infomoney.com.br/economia/inflacao-na-argentina-volta-a-desacelerar-para-132-em-fevereiro/
Eu ia comentar isso agora...

No mes de fevereiro/2024 a inflação esperada era de ~ 15,8% e o anunciado foi de 13,2%. Em dezembro/2023 foi 25,5% em janeiro/2024 foi 20,6% de acordo com o Instituto Nacional de Estatistica e Censos (INDEC).

Bom, vamos ver se essa diminuição da inflação será constante, pelo que parece, aos poucos o atual governo esta colocando o pais "nos trilhos" (pelo menos no quesito da inflação).
Estou curioso para saber como serão esses números nos próximos meses.

Surreal pensar numa inflação tão alta
Realmente será interessante acompanhar quanto tempo demora para diminuir e voltar num patamar menos absurdo.
Dificil ver mes a mes também e ter um quadro claro pro todo, daqui alguns anos saberemos
331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: March 12, 2024, 03:59:13 PM
~snip~
yes, some habits are deeply engrained in our souls, it takes time, work and effort to correct them
not everyone is willing to do so or will have the necessary powers and support network to suceed.

it's definitely easier for some than others...

Yeah, but at the end of the day most people can do it, at least gradually.

It is hard of course, and everyone is different, but it is simply one day at a time.

I agree, should be doable for everyone if they want
and I put it in bold because from practical experience I say that it's impossible to help someone who doesn't want to be helped
and no one is coming to save us, we have to find the best way in life by ourselves.

Well, the way you talk means to me that you are supported by a person who does like to help, but when you need help from others, no one gives it to you, and I think that has happened to a lot of people, well it has happened to many of us, But I think we have to start from that so that we don't get disappointed in those things, at least I'm very happy when I know that I'm helping a person, whether with words or whatever, but helping, do you know why? because that is the only thing that we practically come to this life to help, and to serve, because apart from that you have not realized that you help someone, with whatever it is, because it is a great satisfaction, I know that many people are not like that, but even when We feel that no one helps us and if we have a place to help, then in some way life rewards us, I say something, we will never be alone, sometimes a person can have a lot of money and be a multi-millionaire, but they don't have the health that we need. Also, they don't have the happiness that we still have even though they have so much money, because those things sometimes don't matter.

Here in the forum there are people who need help, they don't say it, but I know they need it, sometimes these types of topics are understandable because there are many ways of thinking and many ways of seeing the problems, but sometimes a piece of advice, no matter how It's silly that it seems, it helps, or can help someone get out of their addiction or that condition, in fact we are people at some point because we have to help, we have to serve others, and then we don't have to suffer, but through our children we could see those Blessings , or through our loved ones, that is something that goes away like that, but I have seen that people who act badly, in some way in the vine pay for it, and keep in mind Surely before dying you pay for the bad that you have done, and we don't know what comes after death, etnoncs the more we can help people I think that is the idea of this, of the thread, of the forum, of everything.


actually I'm supported by myself only but I have a good network of people and family who I can talk to and who would help me if I needed (financially, emotionally, so forth and so on)
my first comment was more relating to therapy, you can force someone to seek this kind of help even if they need it... but when we say "help" I see now that it can mean many things


I agree with you regarding the possibility of knowing if someone need help by the way they type, even easier to do it if you're close to the person and can feel the energy and listen to how they speak
332  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: MEGATHREAD - os livros que o bitcointalk lê on: March 12, 2024, 03:47:25 PM
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boa, não conhecia esse mas Hayek costuma ser muito bom, li 3 dele e recomendo

Desestatização do dinheiro - que fala basicamente sobre o bitcoin, antes do bitcoin existir hahah
O caminho da servidão
A pretensão do conhecimento
Esse é o primeiro livro do Hayek que li/estou lendo.
Eu acredito que Mises e Hayek são leituras "obrigatórias" para quem tenha interesse ou queira saber mais sobre a Escola Austríaca.

Os livros "O Caminho da Servidão" e "A Pretensão do Conhecimento" nunca tinha ouvido falar, vou dar uma olhada e obrigado pela indicação  Smiley

confesso que acho o desestatização do dinheiro meio dispensável se vc acompanha bastante crypto, muito técnico e ainda não existia btc, né...
o caminho da servidão vale muito a pena, o pretensão do conhecimento é menos denso, fácil de ler.
mandou bem com o pdf gagux, tem no libgen também, provavelmente



me animei de ler mais sobre trading
comecei o "reminiscência de um operador de mercado" do Edwin Lefèvre e to gostando bastante.



interessante Paredao, depois conte aqui o que achou.
333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: March 12, 2024, 03:26:13 PM
on point! @Fivestar4everMVP

life is dynamic and change never stops, that's beautiful

<..>

The same with AI, if you can use it to make your life better, that's how you will win.

Maybe for gambling AI can be used in an indirect way. Maybe someone already is using it.

probably, I'd love to hear from other users if they're already using AI for betting
how are they using it? are they creating autonomous AI agents to bet for them or using it to refine strategies or something else?

that is a really interesting topic to talk about
334  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: March 12, 2024, 03:09:47 PM
Is it currently better not to register there?
I am looking for a new bookie. The selection of bets looks good.
In my experience, Roobet is one of the best casino that I played in (sportsbook or casino games). Never had an issue playing on their site and the support is responsive if you have concern, so try it for yourself. But as others have said, there's a mandatory level 1 kyc, need to fill a basic details.

roobet is doing great with the marketing campaigns here in the forum, glad they keep it up after so many weeks.
Indeed. They became well known here because of their different marketing strategies (sig campaign, contests, games etc.) the reason why they became popular. Though they already lessen their promotions as well as their sig participants.

what are the games you're playing more often? Lucky or skill games?
do you find some strong lucky-based game that also have a component of skill?

yes, I can see that they keep their presence strong here on bitcointalk, I just question myself how important is it for them I mean, if it's really effective for their marketing or more something they do out of valuing the community here, wanting to give back, principles, I don't know...

What you ask is very interesting, because there are people who confuse games of luck with games of reality. The other day I was talking to a friend who likes to play roulette a lot, but of course in a physical casino, roulette for me is talent given at random, but as he plays and wins because he has his own strategies, this is something that we must see , because we cannot think that we have the skill in a roulette game, or that what we do is obligatory and that he wins, no, that It's not like that, I love roulette, what was roulette is what I play the most in a Physical casino site, so given these things I can't say that I have a lot of luck in these places, no, these are skill games for me. They are poker and black jack, because you have to combine decisions with strategy and some chance, but it is not all random, well unless it is played and Absolutely nothing comes out , if that happens then no way.

But in the order that things happen in a casino , the game of poker Always has a lot to do with strategies and that is why poker is so good, in fact I have friends who are chess players, which were on the team. from the university and they are very good, and they have Currently given up chess a bit because they have discovered that in poker they can make more money than playing chess, so these are things that make me think, because a chess player knows a lot about strategies, and They can apply everything a lot to be able to win in poker, I don't know how well they do at that, because I didn't ask them much, but they told me that they are dedicated to that, I don't know, but I think they personally play at tables and that since their houses, in the casinos that are seeing things like this to make a great platform because it is something that can happen , although I have not seen a casino that suits me with its poker game, maybe I am Used to something Else.



interesting to put poker and chess on the same "bucket" as strategy, and I agree that both require skill but they are very different
chess always has the best move and you get good by knowing what is the best move to do at a given moment
on poker it's more about odds and bluffing could change everything (you can win without a good hand)

curious to hear your friends strategies on the roulette since this is way more luck, are the strategies related to bankroll management?

Well, the truth is, chess has always caught my attention, I have some medals that I won, but only when I was in high school, but it catches my attention because many very good and famous chess players have turned to poker. and that catches my attention, of course I understand their logic, poker is much less complicated, but it requires many strategies and luck, then with all the mental theory that is in your mind any chess player can do something of money if applied with the same discipline as poker, of course there are some things that have to be taken, like experience, like everything related to doing things better in how to be able to have more skill, when playing in PVP mode it is where there is more opportunity to win, at least that's what I think, although several members of the forum say that that has nothing to do with it.

This makes me remember when I go to a physical casino I like to play roulette when there are many people, that in roulette you have to win yes or yes, for me it is much better to play like this because I feel that I have more chances of winning than I can play alone against the casino software as such, in fact in current casinos they should give those options in PVP mode, like Black Jack, and with respect to roulette, yes, you have not read Karl's articles on the ebl blog. bitcasino.io? There is a lot of high quality information regarding roulette, slots and all this.

interesting, do you have the link for any of these articles you mention? I'd love to check it

regarding chess vs poker there's a really good book called "thinking in bets" by Anne Duke I read it and it's great
it's more about probabilistic thinking applied to life than about the games itself but it's one worth to check
she says life is way more about poker (unpredictability, possibility to fold, etc) than like chess
335  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: O que seria das criptos sem a invenção de Satoshi? on: March 12, 2024, 02:56:08 PM
Na minha visão teríamos algo, mas não tão inovador quanto. Na minha visão, PIX e essa tal DREX nunca viriam e estaríamos fazendo TED apenas durante a semana. Acredito que a maior inovação que eles poderiam dar era enviar ted nos fins de semana.

Outra pergunta interessante também seria e se o satoshi voltasse, o que aconteceria?

Se ele fosse voltar, acho que seria por um bom motivo e primeiramente ele iria esculachar aqui no Bitcointalk geral, aquilo que era pra ser algo descentralizado e foca na tecnologia acabou se tornando um moeda minerada em sua grande maioria por poucos, comprada principalmente por governos e instituições de ETF, e o usuário mesmo que deveria estar ajudando a rede e com sua própria wallet está na mordomia de depender de terceiros.... é capaz dele reclamar até da Electrum que não é uma wallet de verdade só porque não tem um nó completo na rede Tongue

Mas falando sério... o preço certamente iria despencar só pelo temor de que satosshi pudesse despejar tudo o que tem em suas wallets (caso ainda tenha né). A forma mais segura dele voltar talvéz fosse queimando esses bitcoins primeiro.
Ainda assim, com sua volta o Bitcoin provavelmente iria voltar um pouco mais a sua essência tecnológica e não tanto monetária como é hoje.

eu acho que satoshi estaria feliz com o criou, inclusive era previsível que tendo o sucesso que o btc teve inevitavelmente governos e bancos também se interessariam por pegar um pedacinho
mas a parte mais importante foi o fato de que nenhum governo conseguiu parar o bitcoin.
336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It’s unlikely that anyone besides you will be happy with your winnings. on: March 10, 2024, 02:26:08 PM
I don’t think other people will understand the joy of winning for you
Same with talking about videogames with someone that doesn’t play or giving value to a collectible. If you own something that has special value for you but it’s not fungible it will be hard to “translate” this value for someone else specially if they don’t have the context
337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: March 10, 2024, 01:13:31 PM
I didn’t even know they existed until this moment so I can say that they have no influence at all in my life
But for sure they influence the people that watch them because everything we see influence us somehow. Each person will have a different level of letting it influence their actions more or less but we aren’t completely isolated from what we see and read.
338  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Métricas para descobrir o TOPO do Mercado on: March 08, 2024, 07:47:24 PM
Uma das coisas que eu ando mais pensando é DESSA VEZ NÃO VOU CASAR. Quero conseguir sair do mercado melhor do que nos outros ciclos, então to bem de olhos em métricas pra identificar topos.


Faz muito bem. Casar com criptomoedas não é nada bom.  Cheesy Cheesy Tem que desapegar mesmo. Tem que vender e usufruir dessa renda extra que o nosso grande Satoshi Nakamoto nos propiciou. Essa de ficar no Hold eterno é pura bobagem. Dá para sair e entrar quando quiser. E depois não ficar choramingando por ter gasto aqueles satoshis num objeto que você estava namorando e usou o bitcoin para satisfazer o desejo. A vida é muito curta. Tem que aproveitar.

Esse é o clássico dilema da preferencia temporal longa vs curta
Papo legal



Eu to com a sensação de que esse ciclo ta adiantado… mas vai saber o que vai acontecer

Quem viver verá
339  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Preço não para de subir. Nada mais pode ser feito. on: March 08, 2024, 07:31:26 PM
Acabamos de chegar nos 70 míl dólares na Bitstamp!  Shocked Shocked Shocked


https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=BITSTAMP%3ABTCUSD

Alguem mais com a sensação de que o ciclo ta adiantado?
Será que ja chegou a época do ano de superar alta histórica atrás de alta histórica?

Se o gosto é bom nos 70, nao tenho como deixar de imaginar como será aos 71…

Ninguém tem bitcoin o suficiente

Nessas horas bate o arrependimento de estar todo comprado em real. Mas to em paz com minhas decisões
340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism? on: March 08, 2024, 07:18:07 PM
Interesting topic and I was thinking about something on a similar idea

Would it be ok to trade a market that deals with something you’re conpletely against like guns or drugs or or clear ponzis whatever

At first my reaction was better to not even provide liquidity to this kind of things but yesterday I was thinking thar: if you’re gonna trade these better do ot with skill and in your best and extract value from this market

Still not sure and with gambling its even worse because its way more luck than skill
But still interesting to consider
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