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621  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: O mais inesperado aconteceu: MAGAZINE LUIZA VAI VENDER BITCOIN on: October 31, 2023, 10:06:21 PM
meio não relacionado ao tópico principal mas só eu gosto da busca do twitter? costuma funcionar bem pra mim, eles tem inclusive funcionalidade de busca avançada e possibilidade de negativar coisas na busca
só não serve bem para procurar tickers de crypto pq tem muito spam

Se você souber quem é o autor da postagem é realmente boa.. exemplo: "bitcoin (from:Binance)"

Mas para uns fios perdidos, onde as palavras-chave estão separadas, é bem difícil encontrar o que procura.. ao menos para mim, estou ficando velho, a juventude está toda no TikTok Cheesy

uff, nem me fala de tik tok que é a ferramenta mais derretedora de cérebros que conheço.
já aconteceu de ter encontrado threads só lembrando algumas palavras do thread (lembro de um tweet do levelsio sobre alguém que treina com 80 anos ter a mesma mobilidade de alguém que não treina com 30, falei para uma amiga e ela me pediu a fonte, consegui encontrar o tweet pesquisando sem lembrar que era do levelsio, mas pode ter sido sorte também).
622  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Como declarar premiações em crypto? on: October 31, 2023, 09:39:00 PM
que meme maravilhoso Paredao
hahahaha

a parte em negrito era uma brincadeira

sobre isso de alterar categorias de produtos para pagar menos impostos, o @felipether da paradigma fez um vídeo bem bom recentemente:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CxbRIM2y4DV/
(só o tempo que levei pra achar a postagem já fazia esse post merecer um meritzinho)
623  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 31, 2023, 09:22:46 PM
But if they like to submit their KYC because they know for theirselve that the risk is low then they just need to be careful and be aware about those negative implications about the actions we do.
The problem is that KYC is pretty much mandatory in many crypto gambling sites these days because of regulatory pressure due to which players are only given the option to continue playing after submitting KYC or to leave.

This is why so many players end up submitting their KYC even if they don't want to since they want to keep playing at their favourite sites.

we talked over and over again too on how KYC is useless because some people can pay for other people to do it for them or buy KYCed accounts
in the end of the day making KYC mandatory only creates a parallel market that ends up being a bad thing...

but it's ok, move on, nothing to see here.
624  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Receita está usando ferramentas e IA para monitorar transações em cripto on: October 31, 2023, 09:12:31 PM
Quero ver é eles monitorarem criptos que são focadas em privacidade.

De fato muita gente deve de estar tentando fugir dos impostos investindo em stables que fornecem quase a mesma segurança que uma Fiat, ou até mais se você vive em um país com alta inflação tipo o cenário da Argentina.
Então, ver os governos investindo no monitoramento delas é de fato algo muito bem pensad, só acho que... Descobrir que alguém está sonegando algo é muito mais fácil do que provar isso pelos meios legais e obriga-lo a pagar o devido imposto mais multas.
Por mais que o Brasil, por exemplo, já tenha uma regulamentação bem forte, não basta só a RECEITA chegar e falar que tal wallet é de fulano.

mesmo que eles descubram que determinada wallet é de fulano e multem fulano por evadir impostos
o que acontece se o tal fulano for hackeado e perder tudo?

percebe?

é um jogo de gato e rato infinito.

muito provavelmente o mais simples é tentar taxas quando fulano realizar pra real mesmo ou investir em patrimônio
625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: October 30, 2023, 05:43:59 PM
you're right when you think of slots as a game where you shouldn't bet more than you can afford to lose @LUCKMCFLY but this is regardless of your budget if you min budget allows for at least 50 or 100 times the minimum bet...

maybe you're not playing for profit, only for fun

if you have no disposable income available for games at all then disconsider this comment, of course.
626  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: DEBATE SOBRE A TRAGÉDIA DA PL 4173/2023 on: October 30, 2023, 05:15:54 PM
Pelo que entendi pretendem cobrar imposto anual mesmo sem venda (alienação) dos criptoativos, mesmo em carteira de custódia própria, somente pela variação anual positiva do ativo?
Se for isso aí é um absurdo sem tamanho. Imagina tu ter R$ 100k em BTC, ele vira R$ 200k em uma bull run, vira o ano e você tem que pagar imposto sobre os 100% de lucro, ai o BTC vai lá e devolve todo o lucro... Tongue

Lá nos EUA também estavam com essas ideias de taxar lucro não realizado, mas não deu em nada. Sei bem disso pois aconteceu na época que eu vivia dia e noite no crypto twitter e todo mundo ficou maluco. Provavel que aqui também seja só conversa.

esse tipo de coisa mostra a ignorância dos reguladores sobre o que legislam
me pergunto quantos dos que escreveram essas leis usam cripto no dia-a-dia e entendem do mercado e das implicações de suas decisões.

Como muitos projetos de lei e mesmo leis posteriormente promulgadas, esse projeto está muito confuso. Igualzinho como foi a lei do marco regulatório das criptomoedas. Os caras não entendem nada, não pedem assessoramento de pessoas do ramo e no final dá nisso. Tanto que até hoje, o Banco Central teve "vergonha" de regulamentar qualquer coisa a respeito da lei do marco regulatório das criptomoedas. Sendo obrigação dele fazer isso.

até rolou aquela consulta pública (não sei se é esse o termo) em que o Ulrich participou né?! mas pelo visto não ajudou muito

627  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: DEBATE SOBRE A TRAGÉDIA DA PL 4173/2023 on: October 27, 2023, 05:02:49 PM
Ontem eu conversei com um outro advogado e ele me disse que todo mundo estava lendo o texto antigo kkkkkkkk

O texto novo da PL é esse: https://www.camara.leg.br/proposicoesWeb/prop_mostrarintegra?codteor=2350829&filename=Tramitacao-PL%204173/2023

Continua sendo ruim pros investidores de trust e etc, mas pra cripto na verdade parece que ficou melhor:

A tributação sobre ganhos de capital no Brasil tem alíquotas que variam de 15% a 22,5%. A nova PL define alíquota constante de 15% pra quem tem cripto no exterior. Então, é na verdade um beneficio já que não importa quanto tu tem/fez, é um valor só! Acho que as empresas brasileiras vão ficar ainda mais chateadas com a Binance kk

A maior perda será a isenção mensal (pra cripto e pro exteriro).
Pelo q eu li no infomoney, ainda existe espaço para essa isenção permanecer. Vai depender de como a receita entender ee do que acontecerá no senado.

seria curioso manterem a isenção mensal se isso for aprovado

a gente já sabia que em algum momento ia acontecer né
só questão do tempo
não dá pra subestimar a capacidade do estado brasileiro em frear inovação e querer atrasar a vida do povo.
628  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Receita está usando ferramentas e IA para monitorar transações em cripto on: October 27, 2023, 04:51:02 PM
será que tem alguma parceria com empresas de chainanalysis? qual/quais?
acho muito improvável que a base da tecnologia de tracking tenha sido desenvolvida por eles

me pergunto também se fazem o tracking the todas as chains menores ou só da eth e do btc.
629  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Como declarar premiações em crypto? on: October 27, 2023, 04:35:53 PM

minha sorte é que todo o trabalho que faço aqui é filantrópico, a entrada das campanhas nem passa pela minha custódia, vai para uma ONG que cuida dos macacos na Tanzãnia e eles que administram e cuidam de tudo.
Participo pq gosto mesmo, não pelos sats.

Legal. Nunca se esquecendo que mandar dinheiro para fora do País sem a devida declaração pode configurar o crime de evasão fiscal. Eles também farão sua defesa jurídica caso ocorra algum problema Huh

não estou mandando dinheiro para fora do país pois o dinheiro nem mesmo passa por mim
como mencionei não tenho o controle das chaves das carteiras ligadas às campanhas de assinatura do meu username

Em caso de investigação policial, eu declaro que não tenho envolvimento com este grupo e não sei como estou no mesmo, provavelmente fui inserido por terceiros, declaro que estou disposto a colaborar com as investigações, declaro que sou completamente inocente e não tenho envolvimento nenhum com este caso mostrado neste post específico.

sugiro copiarem e colarem a parte em negrito nos seus posts também caso contrário terão 5 anos de azar (zoeira, a deusa da sorte não liga para correntes online)
630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 on: October 27, 2023, 04:23:17 PM
yes Shamm
I think chess is also a lot about understanding the attack and defense lines on the board and knowing what is the position you want to arrive at or you want your enemy to be

it's a cool game
even though life is more like poker than like chess, I do enjoy playing it
.chess is like a puzzle cause you need to watch  every move of your opponent in order to analyze the possible sulution of that  play. And before you can solve the puzzle and win the match you need to defense first in order to have the momentum cause once you are not aware of every trap of your opponent theres a chance that you will be loss. So chess is very hard game even though your physical body are only setting on the chair but your mind  takes all tye pressure.

oh, yes, I did some light chess championships with 1 hour games (30 minutes for each) and in the end I was more tired than if I was dancing for 2 hours
a different kind of tired, not so much physical but in a way that your mind makes your body tired of so much time concentrating.

Your getting tires because your brain work so hard  and we are all know that compared to other activities chess is  an headache for some people cause we imagine the pattern and puzzles in that game that you need to  solve in a short period of time cause in tournament there's a timer in Evey move so you need to hurry before the time runs out.
 While you are dancing your body moves all your nerves  so the out come is that your body got exercise which we need that to stay healthy.

exactly!
the combination of deep concentration and not moving from the place you are is really stressful for me
I wouldn't be a really good chess master, probably
631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: October 27, 2023, 03:44:17 PM

some people will get addicted faster to some things than other people (and other things)
if an individual is really sensitive to addictions the best thing to do it probably to just stay away of this things and focus on what brings him/her good experiences and feelings in the world

easier said than done sometimes but necessary.
That's very true because each person does not have good self-control, so many people will become addicted to gambling faster than others. They must really learn self-control so that they don't become addicted to gambling and won't be too interested in continuing to gamble, especially if they have won previously.

what do you think is the solution to get help to these people?
are you more into the individualistic side with a "too each their own" approach where there's some kind of natural selection and some will fatally lose anyway or do you take a more collectivist approach thinking that we should take care of all humans and get the person some support and network if they don't have the means to help themselves?

really curious on these possible points of view

I share my answer to this. To be frank, I don't care about the other people, or, let's say, those people who're not related to me. I share many pieces of advice and opinions here in the forum about how to aid addiction to gambling, such as that, but that's it, because I believe it's still up to the person if he or she will absorb my advice or every piece of advice he or she receives. My only concerns are my friends and family. I once helped a friend who got too addicted to gambling. I helped him divert his attention to other things and helped him earn in different ways, like trading and investing in bitcoin, which is more efficient than wasting money on gambling with no idea if you will really earn from it. So I'm more likely to help related to me only, maybe I can help to the others but will not put too much effort.

I wonder if people addicted to gambling are reading this at all
if they are then this is already a quite good first step
they're aware of the problem and probably want to solve it

it's way harder to solve things when you're not aware of them
632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: October 26, 2023, 05:37:54 PM
~snip~
Sure deal! even how careful you are it's not an assurance that you can escape or you can avoid addiction, there are factors that may lead you to become addicted, most common is the enjoyment and fun that you gain at the beginning of your game or participation, thru time you see your adrenaline and appetite increase from that point, chances that you may exceed and may lead to addiction is possible, and there's no exemption on it.

Spot on.

And the thing is that most probably a person will get addicted when they are not at a great time in their life, for example they might need a bit of extra money and they try to make it from the casino.

In the end, those people will probably end up very addicted trying to get some money, and in the end lose it all.
Gambling madness can occurs in two forms and if care is not taken, things might get worse with time. Gambling madness could occur when we are frequent gambler with consistent profits. This can make some persons to gamble more because they will think that the more they bet on there favorite games, the higher chances they will have to make more money. This can cause addiction without individuals knowing the level of their addiction.

We need to examine ourselves to see if we are becoming an addict or not. Some time frequent loses can make us addicted to gambling when we have high urge to bet to recover our loses.

what are the two forms?
one where the gambler keeps winning until losing all
and the other as a loser compulsive gambler who spends all his money?
curious on that, didn't really get it by your post.
633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: October 26, 2023, 05:10:22 PM
~snip~
yes
there's something else too
tracking is boring, much more boring than winning, so most people don't track, be them gamblers or investors
when they don't track they're blind on exact wins and losses and can't know for sure if they're profitable, what could make them keep gambling, thinking they're winning, even if they're not

Yes, that's partly why casinos are so successful. Gamblers are basically seen as part of their marketing team  Grin

They usually comment all about their winnings and how easy it is to make money betting at the casino, maybe they will even show you their receipts, etc.

But they rarely mention all the times they have lost money there. And also the casinos make you feel great while you are winning, giving you free food and drinks, etc, so that you stay longer.

The moment you stop putting money there, the lights, music, drinks, and food stop.

exactly
that's why it's good to approach things with a healthy dose of skepticism if somebody tells you something
lots of times there's a bias on the discourse and sometimes it isn't obvious at first sight
634  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: O mais inesperado aconteceu: MAGAZINE LUIZA VAI VENDER BITCOIN on: October 26, 2023, 03:34:44 PM
caraca, 788 milhões de dívida, é muito dinheiro.
Nem lembrava da Marisa.



meio não relacionado ao tópico principal mas só eu gosto da busca do twitter? costuma funcionar bem pra mim, eles tem inclusive funcionalidade de busca avançada e possibilidade de negativar coisas na busca
só não serve bem para procurar tickers de crypto pq tem muito spam
635  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Como declarar premiações em crypto? on: October 26, 2023, 03:24:16 PM


Aproveitando seu conhecimento @Paredao.. e as campanhas de assinatura aqui do fórum? caem no mesmo buraco de não ter o que fazer? tem campanha que já está acima do mínimo para declarar.


No Brasil sempre se arruma um "jeito de fazer".  Cheesy Cheesy No tocante as campanhas de assinaturas, caso elas ultrapassem o valor da tabela do imposto de renda, ou caso você tenha outras rendas, eu aconselharia a pagar o imposto através do carne-leão ou abrir uma MEI + carne-leão.
Dessa maneira você daria origem ao acréscimo patrimonial.
Na hora de preencher o carne-leão, você colocaria o montante como sendo originário do exterior, pois não tem nem cnpj nem cpf de dinheiro vindo do exterior.
Agora, se a Receita Federal vai te chamar ou não para prestar esclarecimentos, ai já são outros quinhentos.
Eu acredito por ser um valor baixo, não terá problemas, mas é sempre bom ter amizade ou um contato com um advogado tributarista ou contador. Eles sempre são úteis nessa hora.  Grin

minha sorte é que todo o trabalho que faço aqui é filantrópico, a entrada das campanhas nem passa pela minha custódia, vai para uma ONG que cuida dos macacos na Tanzãnia e eles que administram e cuidam de tudo.
Participo pq gosto mesmo, não pelos sats.
636  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: October 26, 2023, 03:13:30 PM
-snip-
It's just usual event.

In every year they're doing these on some important days, like Christmast, Halloween and other. If people want to join, feel free to join and don't forget to make a waggering everyday for getting a ticket & freebies.

Sometimes is wort to try, because the wagering is really small.

It is really worth a try especially the raffle event where if lucky one can be picked as a winner even with only one raffle ticket.  As far as I remember in some of their holiday event, there is an instance where an account with a minimum ticket got picked and won a good amount of money in the event.  So for us small timer, it is a good thing to try and join the event and collect tickets for the holiday raffle event,  who knows one of us might be pick as one of the winners even though we just had a small amount of ticket collected.

That's how it goes, with one ticket you can win a big prize on the lottery and this has also been proven on other sites. It is a nice event but nothing beats their Christmas events of 2-3 years ago. That was one of the most rewarding events of the year in the industry (a lot of free cash and free spins with almost no requirements).

do you remember how long the christmas event lasted?
any possibility they'll do it again this year or you think it won't happen so soon?

you can win with one ticket even though it's something rare to happen
637  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Recebeu 7.002 bitcoins por um vídeo, mas não lembra a senha do pendrive on: October 25, 2023, 05:36:34 PM
adoro essas histórias que surgem quando o btc sobe
será que uma hipnoterapia ajudaria a resolver o caso?
hipnose e rememorar as coisas profundamente

doidera pensar como em nenhum lugar "quem chega cedo bebe a água limpa" é mais verdade que em crypto
tempo faz muita diferença.
638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: October 25, 2023, 05:25:59 PM
Well, unfortunately I haven’t been able to get AI to flat out predict the winner of sporting events yet. Sure, there’s ways around it with nonsense, but I’d really like to get the AI’s genuine opinion of who the winner of a sporting event will be. I guess this is still a no-no in the world of AI, but I’m certain it’s only a matter of time.

If you run enough queries you'll probably have lots of different results
those who think AI can predict things like that probably aren't familiar on how LLMs work, at least at this points an LLM is a bit more like a good model to select words according to the best mathematical/statistical response

639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: October 25, 2023, 04:48:52 PM

some people will get addicted faster to some things than other people (and other things)
if an individual is really sensitive to addictions the best thing to do it probably to just stay away of this things and focus on what brings him/her good experiences and feelings in the world

easier said than done sometimes but necessary.
That's very true because each person does not have good self-control, so many people will become addicted to gambling faster than others. They must really learn self-control so that they don't become addicted to gambling and won't be too interested in continuing to gamble, especially if they have won previously.

what do you think is the solution to get help to these people?
are you more into the individualistic side with a "too each their own" approach where there's some kind of natural selection and some will fatally lose anyway or do you take a more collectivist approach thinking that we should take care of all humans and get the person some support and network if they don't have the means to help themselves?

really curious on these possible points of view

I think our encouragement or sincere advice is also one of the great motivations to help people with an addiction easily overcome the temptation of gambling. Especially for those who are married and have children, these members are an excellent reason for them to try, review their responsibilities, and make more effort.  Or keep them busy. When you are active, you will no longer have time to think about participating in gambling games. And the last thing that effectively helps them is to work with them to find a solution to completely resolve the consequences they have caused.

having a support network is essential
we are social beings after all not all people who suffer from something, including gambling addiction, will seek help
some may sink to their bad habits and ruin their lives

crazy universe
640  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Peter Schiff chama investidor de bitcoin de burro on: October 25, 2023, 04:11:12 PM
a parte legal sobre a realidade é que ela não se importa muito com as opiniões
o teste do tempo vai mostrar quem está certo e quem não está

e apesar da internet esquecer rápido, ela também não esquece nunca
esse é o paradoxo
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