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3281  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: September 13, 2015, 11:20:24 PM
Now adays there are many ways to earn BTC (Bitcoins).
Or you could simply buy.

But I have found the easiest way is to find a good faucet.  and believe me there are hundreds of them.

There are games that pay pretty well as well.  For Android anyways.
Coin Flapper, Coin Hopper, and Coin Crush.  However Coin Flapper is the easiest and pays the most.

You can do affiliate programs.  Some pay well as well as referral programs.

Do a search on google for ways to earn bitcoin and there are literally endless ways.   Hell you can even make some of your own if you know what your doin,

You can also earn by providing a service or the alike and have people donate btc to the cause.

kinda cool really.   the list goes on and on.



i am playing coin hopper and coin flapper also , its fun and at the same time you earn some satoshis. it is better than faucets because its not boring
How much you can earn by playing coin hopper? if you only earn in forms of satoshi , its also like a faucets and its better to use faucets because you only need to enter the captcha every 1 hour and its better for those people who are busy in their work.

All depends really.  but for waiting that 1 hour I have found some faucets only pay out small amounts.   I have seen some only pay out like 50 sat and others that can pay out up to 3-4 thousand.  All depends.   I do an average count of 7 and win 1st or 2nd most of the time.  so figure 5 - 10 seconds per round up to 15 seconds depending on how fast you click on the next game.  Say you even win second most of the time.  Every say 10 seconds you win 150 sat. That is still 900 sat give or take over 60 seconds. so in an hours time you could make as much as 54,000 sats.   You find a faucet that pays that.

I sure havnt nor do i ever thing you will unless you hit one of the lottery faucets.


your max win rate for a day with flappy is 120,000 sats.
120,000 x 7 (days) =840,000 sats
840,000 x 4 (month) =3,360,000 sats a month.
3,360,000 x 3 (months) = 10,080,000

That is a whole BTC in 3 months.  But of course that is winning every game which wont happen.  unless you get good and always hit like 20 or more each game which would bring you down to 3 games or so a min.   more likely 2 games a min.

With an average of 7 per game I usually end up with 60,000 sats aday.  I spent 8 hours one day going threw faucets and only ended up with half of that.  so for 2 hours or so spread out threw out a day.  60k+ is worth it if your gonna waste time on faucets.

Just what I found anyways.  and Its better to play threw out the day rather then early am or evening I found as your win rate increases im guessing because of players that play to play not to gain BTC.

Hope that answers your question.

Your math is off. 10m satoshi is 0.1 BTC, not 1 BTC. So that's a BTC in 30 months, not 3. VERY different.

So that's 365*30=around 10k hours put in for $225. If you will do that much work for so little, I have jobs for you, Smiley.

Urs was a was a little off to takes about 2 hours to plays all 200 games.  comes out to around 21,900 hours.   lol

Your right it is off.   I play in my spare time.  But you find a faucet that pays that.  I haven't.  Like I said I used rotator for 8 hours one day and only ended up with 30k sats.  For around 2 hours of time playing I doubled that and that.  If you have the time its can be worth it.  I started earning BTC playing these games.  I play from time to time now.  But took what i earned and traded to increase my sats.  I turned it into btc.  If you have money to invest in BTC fastest way is to buy it. Otherwise if you have time play and do faucets.

So seeing as how my math is off which it was.

Even if you play from time to time.  Like I see everyone playing candy crush or other games like it.  Play for a little over a year and there ya go. you gotta btc.   lol 

I was in no means meaning to play 24 hours a day as an income.   lol. That is like being paid in China.

But you can still earn off the 0.1 BTC trading in the markets.  Which is what I ended up doing.

Was a long day yesterday and I wonder why my bank book is off from time to time.

I used your math to come up with mine. And this leads us all back to the same thing as before: you're wasting your time with any of this. 0.1 BTC is $25. That's under 2 hours of work for most people, which is a hell of a lot faster than even 30 hours. Trying to take the lazy way out results in less earnings and a LOT more work for nothing.
3282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses on: September 13, 2015, 11:17:32 PM
ACTIVEmining. He's been found guilty of breaking a bunch of securities rules by the Missouri Securities Division (misleading investors, failing to make good on promises etc) and has been issued fines of over $30000. He is also supposed to reimburse all investors for IPO value of shares. So far he has ignored these charges and refuses to cooperate even his lawyer fired him!
The deadline for paying his fine is coming up (can't remember if it's end sept or oct) but he's nowhere to be found. If he doesn't pay the fines it goes to the federal level and he will see jail time and a disgorgement of funds. The FBI will be tasked with hunting his sorry ass down.
There was some debate wether he was an outright scam or just in readable incompetent but his behaviour regarding the legal matters and his responsibilities to his shareholders (and the state of Missouri) lean pretty hard toward scammer

I have the feeling these securities fraud accusations are going to come up a lot as the government starts taking a more active role in BTC. Almost any company selling shares on these forums is guilty of the same.
3283  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot.com :: The bitcoin gambling wallet on: September 13, 2015, 11:16:14 PM
I would like an option to disable public gaming stats and to withdraw balance form all apps at once.

Thanks, noted. Both very reasonable, and added to our issue tracker.

Great ideas! It'd also be cool if there were like an overall site leaderboard people can choose to show up on, that would take into consideration their profit/wagered from all supported MP sites at once.
3284  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling a big crypto forum with income urgent sale. on: September 13, 2015, 11:14:40 PM
Details sent in PM to both of you guys. Also The date has been extended to 23rd September for the last bid and the site will be sold to the highest bidder on that day.

You really need Analystics stats. AWStats is worthless -- it's not accurate and doesn't give any useful information. We care not about how many hits it got, but where they came from, the historical pattern, and user stats based on that.

The awstats are the most authentic source as they are built in with my hosting rather than a 3rd party source your suggesting. And awstats show all the details not just hits. Rather than wasting my time give a bid or dont take interest you dont seem like you would be buying the site either since you dont understand how these big forums work.

It's impossible to make a bid without knowing necessary information. This is like saying "I'm selling a restaurant. What else do you need to know? There are 20 cars parked outside right now, isn't that enough information?"

Read up on AWStats and you'll see that it's far from accurate, because it takes into consideration bot hits, disconnects, multithreaded connections, etc. (i.e., one person's visit to a single page can log in as 5-10 hits). Analytics is the most accurate resource you're going to find because it automatically excludes all of that.
3285  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-$5,000,000-17,540 BTC in 5 GTD Tourneys-Up 2 150% RB on: September 13, 2015, 05:02:57 AM
Hey fellow bitcoiners,  I just wanted to drop in and let everybody know about Betcoin.ag.  I've been a member of their site for almost a year now and can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt Betcoin is the best thing going for people who use bitcoin for poker, sports betting as well as casino.  In addition they just added live casino which is awesome, as well as an updated sportsbook.  From the heavy grinders to the people just like to play a little here and there, they have something for everyone.  I've personally started there with no bankroll and due to the kindness of other players as well as one of their moderaters, PLO8Monster, I have built my bankroll up numerous times.  All deposits and withdraws are super fast and there are ample freerolls and step tournaments to grind your way to the top!!!!


Hope to see some new faces this week!!!!

spaz
+1
I agree!  Best Bitcoin poker out there....also accepts Litecoin....plus because it's on the WPN, one has the added advantage of the larger USD player's field.  It's a win win win...10X better than Seals! 100X....There's a freakin Million Dollar Tournament Tomorrow....doesn't get better than that!!!!!

HUD compatible...HM2, PT3....the works!  Best there is out there....for sure!

I wasn't aware Betcoin would work with the HUDs. That's awesome news, Smiley. Haven't used them in a long time (ever since going from fiat to BTC), mostly due to the other sites in the past not supporting them.
3286  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ‼ BitRevenues | Win 0.015 BTC | Free Lottery ‼ on: September 13, 2015, 05:01:39 AM
Bump! BitRevenues is doing great! Our earning is increasing everyday! We will reach out goal very soon!

What's the current status on that (earning-wise) so far?
3287  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-$5,000,000-17,540 BTC in 5 GTD Tourneys-Up 2 150% RB on: September 13, 2015, 02:56:53 AM
is surprise box random? I am bronze I now, several days ago I got only 2 status points per box, but nowadays I got 15, 20 status points. And I don't get a casino bonus for one month, what's wrong, did u ban me to get casino bonus? Shocked Sad

It's always been random. I've had times where I get status points every day for a couple weeks, and others where I get nothing but Betcoin Points.

what's your level and how often do u get casino bonus?

I have got 10-20 times of casino bonus 1 month ago, since they upgraded the site, I never got a casino bonus anymore, and I have completed 50X rollover of 1.5m-2.5m chips, and cashed out 50-100 chips twice, i think that is very possible they banned me to get a casino bonus in the future, or they don't give casino bonus for bronze level members? That's why i never received a casino bonus for 1 month, yeah I just checked the events history for 360 days, and it shows only 4 weeks history, which means they have upgraded the site for 1 month.

In over 2 months, I've never had a casino bonus, so 0. Mine are usually Betcoin Points or Status Points. Ah, and Tourny Cash (I've gotten around 2 mBTC in that).
3288  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: September 13, 2015, 02:54:43 AM
Now adays there are many ways to earn BTC (Bitcoins).
Or you could simply buy.

But I have found the easiest way is to find a good faucet.  and believe me there are hundreds of them.

There are games that pay pretty well as well.  For Android anyways.
Coin Flapper, Coin Hopper, and Coin Crush.  However Coin Flapper is the easiest and pays the most.

You can do affiliate programs.  Some pay well as well as referral programs.

Do a search on google for ways to earn bitcoin and there are literally endless ways.   Hell you can even make some of your own if you know what your doin,

You can also earn by providing a service or the alike and have people donate btc to the cause.

kinda cool really.   the list goes on and on.



i am playing coin hopper and coin flapper also , its fun and at the same time you earn some satoshis. it is better than faucets because its not boring
How much you can earn by playing coin hopper? if you only earn in forms of satoshi , its also like a faucets and its better to use faucets because you only need to enter the captcha every 1 hour and its better for those people who are busy in their work.

All depends really.  but for waiting that 1 hour I have found some faucets only pay out small amounts.   I have seen some only pay out like 50 sat and others that can pay out up to 3-4 thousand.  All depends.   I do an average count of 7 and win 1st or 2nd most of the time.  so figure 5 - 10 seconds per round up to 15 seconds depending on how fast you click on the next game.  Say you even win second most of the time.  Every say 10 seconds you win 150 sat. That is still 900 sat give or take over 60 seconds. so in an hours time you could make as much as 54,000 sats.   You find a faucet that pays that.

I sure havnt nor do i ever thing you will unless you hit one of the lottery faucets.


your max win rate for a day with flappy is 120,000 sats.
120,000 x 7 (days) =840,000 sats
840,000 x 4 (month) =3,360,000 sats a month.
3,360,000 x 3 (months) = 10,080,000

That is a whole BTC in 3 months.  But of course that is winning every game which wont happen.  unless you get good and always hit like 20 or more each game which would bring you down to 3 games or so a min.   more likely 2 games a min.

With an average of 7 per game I usually end up with 60,000 sats aday.  I spent 8 hours one day going threw faucets and only ended up with half of that.  so for 2 hours or so spread out threw out a day.  60k+ is worth it if your gonna waste time on faucets.

Just what I found anyways.  and Its better to play threw out the day rather then early am or evening I found as your win rate increases im guessing because of players that play to play not to gain BTC.

Hope that answers your question.

Your math is off. 10m satoshi is 0.1 BTC, not 1 BTC. So that's a BTC in 30 months, not 3. VERY different.

So that's 365*30=around 10k hours put in for $225. If you will do that much work for so little, I have jobs for you, Smiley.
3289  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling a big crypto forum with income urgent sale. on: September 13, 2015, 02:51:53 AM
Details sent in PM to both of you guys. Also The date has been extended to 23rd September for the last bid and the site will be sold to the highest bidder on that day.

You really need Analystics stats. AWStats is worthless -- it's not accurate and doesn't give any useful information. We care not about how many hits it got, but where they came from, the historical pattern, and user stats based on that.
3290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: September 13, 2015, 02:50:37 AM
Statistics says there is no such thing as luck, but martingale involves a lot of luck.

I once won 150k sats. with freebitco's multiplier and then lost everything to reach a -75k balance I think I still have. If you are lucky enough, you will never experience a lossing streak, but usually you will hit one, sooner or later.

Statistics actually shows that it's PURE luck. You're either lucky (on the winning end of the streak) or unlucky (on the losing end). Claiming it's not luck insinuates there's skill, and there's no skill when it's statistics-based.
3291  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling a big crypto forum with income urgent sale. on: September 12, 2015, 08:44:49 AM
Please PM me more details including traffic stats and revenue.

I'd like the same information, with both going back at least 12 months. Also would like to know how much you're asking for on it.
3292  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses on: September 12, 2015, 08:40:54 AM
wow that is a lot of money stolen. these things need to stop if btc is to go far.

The sad part is it's one theft after another, and then people wonder why outsiders feel Bitcoin is a scam. It's because 99% of the Bitcoin-related things ARE scams. Even if you look in the securities section on these forums, you'll find that nearly every business is going to bet at a net loss for perpetuity, and that's excluding those that are clear scams to begin with.

I don't know what do you people expect? We live in a dirty world where people will come face to face to you and try to steal from you. Can we really expect the people will do this less when we allow them to hide behind their computer and to try and steal from the other part of the world? I don't think so.

Bitcoin will just need to be strong enough to bear this weight on its shoulders as well and to win in the end nevertheless. People scammed and will scam in the future, with Bitcoin or without!

With normal scams, people go to prison. With Bitcoin, almost nobody is ever caught due to being anonymous (to an extent). You're comparing two very different animals.
3293  Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game (formerly moneypot.com) on: September 12, 2015, 08:39:44 AM

There are no investors. Ryan personally bankrolls Bustabit. Not MoneyPot.

I know Bustabit's bankroll is different. That was just a general term. Tongue

How do you know Ryan is a person and not an organization? Grin How do you know that there are NO private investors? How do you know whether Ryan is the sole and only investor? Cheesy

Because he's said it before, and stated he's not taking private investors already (I tried, :p).
3294  Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game (formerly moneypot.com) on: September 12, 2015, 08:35:05 AM
NEWS

39BTC back to the investors. Phoking got carried away?




I think I am not lucky enough today. When I saw people played, they could achieve 20x until 27x. But when I joined, it stopped at 2 Embarrassed. Still trying to make some profit Grin

Same here. I didnt understand how are they winning this? Is there some kind of method to play here? Its hard for me to get higher multiplier, always aim low but then Im losing too

Just pure luck. There is a strategy to beat the house edge, but you might end up losing or winning, all on luck. Yeah, the chances for high multipliers are of course low, for x times, approx. 1/x chance. Smiley

There are no investors. Ryan personally bankrolls Bustabit. Not MoneyPot.

And the same whale hit "Tothemoon" earlier today, catching ~45 BTC from there.
3295  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-$5,000,000-17,540 BTC in 5 GTD Tourneys-Up 2 150% RB on: September 12, 2015, 08:32:32 AM
is surprise box random? I am bronze I now, several days ago I got only 2 status points per box, but nowadays I got 15, 20 status points. And I don't get a casino bonus for one month, what's wrong, did u ban me to get casino bonus? Shocked Sad

It's always been random. I've had times where I get status points every day for a couple weeks, and others where I get nothing but Betcoin Points.
3296  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses on: September 12, 2015, 08:31:46 AM
wow that is a lot of money stolen. these things need to stop if btc is to go far.

The sad part is it's one theft after another, and then people wonder why outsiders feel Bitcoin is a scam. It's because 99% of the Bitcoin-related things ARE scams. Even if you look in the securities section on these forums, you'll find that nearly every business is going to bet at a net loss for perpetuity, and that's excluding those that are clear scams to begin with.
3297  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Neteller now is using Bitpay to accept Bitcoin as deposit method - Big news! on: September 12, 2015, 08:28:35 AM
Hello bitcointalk,

Starting from tomorrow NETELLER will **increase the deposit fee from 0% to 5%.**
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Effective 10 September 2015, Bitcoin deposit fee changes to 5.0%.  
 
Also the funds deposited into your NETELLER account with Bitcoin **can't be used with the NET+ virtual creditcard.**  
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**How can you still deposit money into your NETELLER account using Bitcoin?**

1. Go to https://www.coinimal.com
2. Register an account (only emailaddress is needed!)
3. Click on "Sell" and select NETELLER
4. Send the BTC to the address provided
5. Receive the EUR on your NETELLER account

**Limits:**  
500€ / day for unverified accounts  
5000€ / day for verified accounts  

**Currency**: EUR

**Fee**: 2.5%

https://www.coinimal.com/news/2015/the-most-requested-neteller-sell-feature-has-been-implemented/

Regards,  
Paul  

https://www.coinimal.com  

So essentially they're now just yet another exchange, liquidating pretty much right after you deposit. And with high fees.
3298  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-$5,000,000-17,540 BTC in 5 GTD Tourneys-Up 2 150% RB on: September 12, 2015, 08:26:38 AM
Hello There!
Why withdrawal on funds  in betcoin.ag take so long?
Does their withdrawal done manually?

Yes, they are all manual right now and are analyzed beforehand. It's the sad part about withdrawing from there but hopefully they find solid ways to speed it up while remaining secure.
3299  Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game (formerly moneypot.com) on: September 12, 2015, 08:21:09 AM
I think I am not lucky enough today. When I saw people played, they could achieve 20x until 27x. But when I joined, it stopped at 2 Embarrassed. Still trying to make some profit Grin

Same here. I didnt understand how are they winning this? Is there some kind of method to play here? Its hard for me to get higher multiplier, always aim low but then Im losing too

If you watch, his wins were mostly at around 3-5x or so, which is lower than a lot of others play at. Essentially he was doing maximum bets and allowing the automatic cut-off to stop it for him I believe.
3300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: September 12, 2015, 08:20:14 AM
you need luck,not strategy.. lol

That is only true when you don't play as much. But we are talking about stragiest after taking > 10,000 of rolls or so and trying to get an edge to make an income. This is where probability help us.

You won't find a strategy because you'll hit the maximum bet and/or the maximum win at some point, after which you're unable to re-gain your losses since you can't bet more than they'll allow.
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