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361  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will crypto exchanges be banned/taxed ? on: March 04, 2018, 06:27:50 PM
Yes i agree with you. the main reason why people use bitcoin to be their invesment or payment method is to hide their identity, hide their balance from public (to be anonymouse) and get almost free fees. but with govs to intervene the ceypto world with taking taxes. crypto world become uncomfortable and exchanger become more like bnk which is what we avoid.
Tax exist to gather funds from people for common interest. We might feel fine if it's talking about small amount of money but it's always be a problem when you get taxed due your large earnings so I wouldn't surprised if then a lot of people use bitcoin to avoid taxpayer. The problem are on each of you , not the gov who regulates exchange, they act like that based on mutual agreement, if you don't like it then change it through legal action.
362  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Rumored yobit founder arrested on: March 03, 2018, 07:08:17 PM
I can't say I'm surprised. This would also explain very bad running of business that Yobit had. Still this doesn't have to mean that Yobit will stop existing, some new leader could overtake it or it could be sold.
Nevertheless I quit doing business with Yobit a long time ago because of very poor service they were providing and because of many scam accusations.
People who trading with common sense would avoid yobit once they have experienced to trade there , too much strange coins with overpriced listed there , too much suspicious services run there. I have experienced to wait my withdrawal pending more than 4 weeks, crazy and I leave them right after I received the funds.
363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: March 03, 2018, 06:49:06 PM
If At. Madrid wins against Barcelona  becomes the favorite!


Even if they win against barcelona, it is not a guarantee that they will win the championship. They will only close the gap into two points but that means if barcelona lose another game then they will be able to take the lead. I cant imagine that barcelona will want this to happen as they want to secure the title as well this season

For me the match will end with a draw (1-1), the Barcelona will keep the 5 points of advantage and will win the Liga.
At home the Barcelona is practically unbeatable in fact in 19 rmatches (Liga, Copa de Rey and Champions League) has got 17 wins and 2 draws.
But if the At. Madrid winning at Camp Nou becomes the favorite because psychologically it would be stronger.

Well, well, Barca slips and even I'm tempted to think Athleti can go from severe underdog to dark horse. It would be a season to relish in Italy and Spain if we see things continue the way they are. Would be awesome for my El Nino to win this last honour before finally retiring. But ciccio's right. It's more likely that they'll keep this 5 point lead (unless Torres and co never slip up either). 7 more games to break the unbeaten streak record by Sociedad, and I know Barca are hungry for that.

But yeah, for the sake of the neutrals... Ath Madrid for the win!
While Barcelona slip and lost , atletico Madrid gained confidence with the previous game against leganes as griezman netted 4 goals ! Atletico wins Psychologically , but the real situation might different. A draw are the most fair result, I would like to place bet on under 2.5 goals for this game.
364  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: March 03, 2018, 06:38:58 PM
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Will there be similar promotions in bitcointalk? I kinda missed when there is a good promotions in games and rounds section but I dont think fortunejack going to promote it here because it can be easily abused with tons of account. I dont really use reddit so I might be skipping this one and wait for another

I do not even own a reddit account, so I support you to ask FJ to make similar promotion here in bitcointalk. I'm sure it will get much more entries and FJ can be so confused to choose the winner lol. Related to abusers, I think FJ can handle it with some requirements which means not all members are eligible to join the promo.

Relating to the abuse, it is hard to make restriction like X rank of account can join . That is probably because there are alot of people that play on fortunejack doesnt have a high rank account in here. We havent seen such promotions in bitcointalk lately from fortunejack isnt it? Or do I missed same kind of promotions here?
They once held a promotional video competition which actually didn't run smoothly but finished it promptly and yeah as you've said it would be complicated to limit the promo for certain member, but there's no harm to give it a try soon however  Cheesy , should we create a breakthrough promotion here for the loyal players?
365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: March 03, 2018, 06:12:52 PM
Liverpool vs Newcastle.
I do not see Liverpool going to lose tonight, but what I see is Liverpool will have trouble winning. Somehow, I feel Newcastle will always give trouble to Liverpool, especially after newcastle handled by Rafa Benitez. I think the score will be big, between 3-2 or more for Liverpool's victory.

I waiting for this match and expect to see over 2.5 goals in total and over 0.5 on HT. Expecting to see Liverpool to win they play home have good form and im sure they will show they are better.
Don't forget Liverpool are a robin hood  Grin , I'm looking for Liverpool to get another surprising results against the underdogs. From now on let's chase Liverpool to lost by 1 or two goals , the odds quite good especially if they play at home , too mainstream to place a bet for Liverpool ML , try something else. For now they are leading through salah goal , he just scored it at 40' , the game itself live at 42' and running  now.
366  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will the Bull Market Return in 2018? What's Your Prediction? on: March 02, 2018, 11:24:35 AM
Well as of now we have no idea if there's another bull run on March because there's still alot of fuds around the social media.
But base on the potential of price  nowadays perhaps there's a mini bull run and in my prediction there's a chance that the price will exceed  again to 11k value or 11500k value. And maybe after that it will dump again because of some whales that keep buying nowadays to shake out some weak hands again.
The correction that takes long time are required before shows the bull sign and to hit new ath . We are now in the 4th month of market correction. Expect to have market recovery to $20k soon are our dream, but if we be more patient to wait for longer time, the price might explode more than two times from the last ath , who knows?

The way that I see it, Bitcoin has to explode to twice it's all time high at some point.  If cryptocurrencies expand in adoption, Bitcoin's market cap is bound to grow.  This technology is here to stay.
The problem always on how people afraid whenever the market in bearish, they think it won't recover , it will only get deeper dropped . People feel so optimistic only when they see the recent charts always green which it's shows how noob you are. Watch and learn, 2018 wouldn't be as great as 2017 , that's what I can see so far.
367  Economy / Economics / Re: Study says being rich is determined by chance rather than intelligence or talent on: March 02, 2018, 03:05:37 AM
They say that chance only knock ones you have to grab it but also you have to do something you have to work on it wisely. Chance combined it with intelligence it will be better a chance to be rich.
Yeah actually it should be done like that , otherwise this would sounds like being rich just about lucky or not. Mostly intelligent person know what to do for best and some of them prefer to leave the rich dream to serving people to make a better world to live , pretty different when you are an ambitious person , you do know the chance and take it whatever the consequences, just hoping to have a lot of money as many as you can , which I personally it wasn't smart move ideally.
368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 02, 2018, 02:21:32 AM
This week in Serie A there are 3 big matches:
Lazio vs Juventus, Napoli vs Roma and the derby AC Milan vs Inter!
the first 6 teams in the standings will compete and therefore, we can have some interesting indications on the fight for the Scudetto, and the fight for the first 4 places useful for the champion's league.
Crucial
There's no doubt lazio would struggle to win against juventus while ac Milan on fire they needs 3 point to secure the 6th position on the table , as Roma are on bad performance , last time they lost 0-2 against ac Milan and of course juventus fans would love to see Napoli lost to cut the point range to 1 point only.
369  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you a full time trader or just part timer? on: March 01, 2018, 06:09:38 PM
I'm just a parttime trader Cheesy. I have to work about 8 - 9 hours per day with my real job although I work for my own bussiness Cheesy. I just spent about 1 - 2 hours per day for trading or maybe 0 hour cause I only trade when I got good trading signal from a group that I believe that it's legit enough. But for now, I'm too busy with my real job so I stop trading for a while and turn to hold Smiley)
I've been become a full time trader and guess what? I have a lot of spare time to spend, too much time wasted and don't know what to do lol , always better to become a part time trader and as you have done JCLee when you have no time to trade just hold it on , you would in profit at some point.
370  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to know before the Dump? on: March 01, 2018, 03:26:29 PM
That is not an easy task to predict the dump movement specially in crypto currency. Like some of the bitcoiner user said, it's a digital money that once you mess out, it's not easy to fixed and you need to pack up and move on. Strategy help you sometimes, you need to monitor it if you have a lot of time to do it, but expect more problem to encounter and be ready in every situation that will come. You mostly gonna encounter this dump in alternative coins if you are not careful to choose the right one. Just provide plan B always folks.
Yes, i think we were having a hard time to find a formula on when is the dumping of price occur or take place. I believe that everything in crypto is unpredictable, so then no one can really preduct on what will be the exact time of the dumping of the market pruce. Maybe we only need to have monitoring about the price and it's present appearance but if we say predicting it is really hard.
Decentralized make things unpredictable, but you can always dump the market by yourself as long as you have large amount of money to make a significant effect and makes people in panic to do selling, well it wasn't easy but you would know when the dump happened  Grin . Anyway you might can take a look into buy wall and sell wall , if there's a lot of people out their order in sell wall you have to prepare for the coming dump as someone can't be patient and sell it all at once.
371  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will the Bull Market Return in 2018? What's Your Prediction? on: March 01, 2018, 11:37:12 AM
Well as of now we have no idea if there's another bull run on March because there's still alot of fuds around the social media.
But base on the potential of price  nowadays perhaps there's a mini bull run and in my prediction there's a chance that the price will exceed  again to 11k value or 11500k value. And maybe after that it will dump again because of some whales that keep buying nowadays to shake out some weak hands again.
The correction that takes long time are required before shows the bull sign and to hit new ath . We are now in the 4th month of market correction. Expect to have market recovery to $20k soon are our dream, but if we be more patient to wait for longer time, the price might explode more than two times from the last ath , who knows?
372  Economy / Economics / Re: When will the market turn and start growing again? on: March 01, 2018, 06:04:56 AM
Market bitcoin forever will be difficult to predict, what happened with the beginning of 2018 is getting a lot of people confused because bitcoin prices continue to fall, I expect prices to go up and probably will happen after the month of April.
Time after time the volatile in bitcoin would become the most wanted by traders around the world, you just don't know how to identify and take a benefit from that kind circumstances. Well it's the matter of time people to learn and understand about the real concept of crypto market and of course patience are one of the most important factor to get through this kind difficult times.
373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why kyc is even required? on: March 01, 2018, 05:57:51 AM
Most casinos like fortunejack require kyc if you win a huge amount some sportsbook also ask for kyc
Why is this even necessary bitcoin gambling exist so that we can gamble anonymously and not pay any tax on our winnings or hide our identify if we win a huge amount then why do many sites still ask for kyc
Is it even fair?
Fortunejack won't ask for KYC if you didn't have a serious problem , I've been playing at fortunejack since 2014 and never asked for KYC even for once. I've heard several cases in fortunejack that they ask for KYC and its for security reason. The answer are for security reason generally.
I just read there terms if you earn a profit of more than 2000$ you need to provide kyc and in today's value that is just 0.18 bitcoin which is so less , I saw scam accusations also against them for not paying a person winning amount of 6 bitcoin or something and finally he got after 3 months
I just know about it really, last year I won more than 2,000 usd and didn't asked for KYC, weird ? Maybe ... , good move? It's to protect the business and yourself as a customer . Accept the KYC procedure if you think it's reasonable and simply avoid it when you think crypto should go completely anonymous.
I completely doubt kyc is for protecting us i don't know how will i even get exploited if i make profit in gambling a normal person would either withdraw the amount or keep on gambling
I have only seen fortunejack asking for kyc to delay payments maybe they don't have sufficient cash to give out profits or they only want users who feed them funds and not take away their funds
In case you lost your account and there's a lot of money stored, the site won't struggle to verify it's you the original owner. Besides the prevention of money laundering KYC help government to looking for illegal activity which yeah it's always become a dilemma in crypto that basically it should run anonymously.
374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: March 01, 2018, 03:35:51 AM
^  Maybe.  But if they continue to get mediocre results and not win trophies in the next three years or so, I think Mou's gonna be given the sack.  The way United's been spending for transfers, surely they're demanding something more from the players...  And the manager.

And it's nice to see Kompany play again...  He had a goal too.  Smiley

Sure Mou's definitely going to get it right next season because he's spent the last two seasons trying to build Manchester United from the rot they became after Ferguson left and so they should give this man the time because he's an excellent team builder and the results will be evident for all to see starting next season i reckon.
Everyone thinks that the man who manage a big team with a lot of achievements like Manchester United after fergie left need a long time to make the glorious time back , but then for few years only the manager get sacked, same thing could happened to mou , the great time won't repeat, Manchester United fans and management should look at the realistic target, to win at least one trophy in a season are fair enough.

Well it pays to wait and the e isn't any better replacement for mourinho out there yet who is jobless and so sacking a coach of his caliber could be suicidal for united at this stage and do they should give him a longer time to experiment; maybe a season more before making him face the axe if things don't change.
Yeah exactly that's what I mean, mou just need to change the way his style to play defensively to play openly like what a lot of fans wanted, otherwise he could be hated . Defending aren't Manchester United character since the club built. People would get bored and blame the manager if he did it in the next few years. Defending won't give you a trophy but a safe haven.
375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 28, 2018, 07:01:49 PM
Napoli the leaders of the Italian league have widened the gap back to fourth points with from second-placed Juventus on Monday, after beating Cagliari 5-0 at Sardinia Arena for the 26th round of the SerieA. Juventus match with Atalanta, which was scheduled for Sunday but was delayed due to bad weather. The cat and mouse Chase is still on it's the closest Competition for the top 5 European leagues but it still Juventus is the number 1 candidate for lifting the title despite that Napoli have Only League games left for them to play after getting knocked out from UEL while Juce still competing in UCL and the Italian cup.

if napoli performance can constant until end season
napoli can win in serie A this season
but juventus still one advantage match, because last week juventus match delay
The only team in serie A that always shows a consistent performance it's juventus , nothing else. But now it seems another team shows a promising statistics and that's ac milan under gattuso , worth to see the golden time to be back to them and the league become more competitive.
376  Economy / Economics / Re: Fiat, Banks and the future of Cryptocurrencies on: February 28, 2018, 06:48:43 PM
flats is near to expire because bitcoin is gaining more fan following and investors are rushing toward bitcoin to make it the global coin of the world and i am sure banks will also exit when bitcoin will be implemented as currency and people are now really satisfied by using bitcoin,
The new era of cashless society yeah , still I'm a little bit doubt about this due how a lot of people keep thinking traditionally and won't welcome new things, new technology like electronic money, it would takes a long time . Anyway I personally haven't experience a strict service from the banks even they know about how I involve in crypto business.
377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it true bitcoin will fall to the leve of $1800 or $1500 ? on: February 28, 2018, 05:33:48 PM
since it those not fall down to 4,000$ in the last few days when their was a massive panic and selling of the coin it will never fall down to that anymore, as you can see it have started regaining it strength already. so i see no possibility that will make it to fall up to 1500$ again.
Bitcoin market always provide a shocking situation , but I never see a drop more than 1500% . So people should feel secure with that data . We might frequently see a drop price like from $20k down to $10k or even $7k . This is a usual condition that makes Bitcoin volatile.
378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting Strategy -> Betting early vs. late on: February 28, 2018, 04:06:20 PM
You place a pre-match bet. Then if your pre-match bet is going south fast you place a live bet which will hopefully hedge your earlier position and secure you a profit. It's not rocket science. Of course it's possible that you might end up being unlucky twice which would be very unfortunate.
Yeah it's work for me sometimes and risk to get loss even more are there indeed, at least worth to give it a shot. Gambling never fun when you stay on the safe line. So just go for both and take your profit two times or go home in broke. The odds so interesting when you do bet close to the game or in live .
379  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: DO YOU BUY WHEN THE PRICE DROPS SHARPLY ? on: February 28, 2018, 03:46:18 PM
Yes, I always try to buy the dips. The hardest thing about buying the dips is trying to predict the bottom, if you are too indecisive and decide to wait for the price to keep tanking it recovers and you are regret not buying.
Simply just buy it step by step, don't be greedy, don't put your money all at once, it's Often happens to every single person who for the first time try this method. You need to becareful and patient otherwise your target to chase the dips ended up with a mistake to cut the loss when it's actually ready to recovering.
380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which coin do you think is best for gambling? on: February 28, 2018, 02:09:12 PM
Litecoin is also a good coin for the gambling website because the fee is very cheap and transactions are also happens faster when comparing to bitcoin but many websites are still not added any other crypto currencies that bitcoin hope they will do it soon then it will attracts more players towards their site.
Yeah there might only one , two or three crypto gambling site that accept altcoins like lite coin, whereas an altcoin like ethereum, dogecoin and litecoin have been in crypto to survive and have stable market for long time enough.
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